Why Trevor Ariza Nearly Went Latrell Sprewell on Coach Larry Brown

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  • Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
  • In Trevor Ariza's second year in the NBA, Larry Brown told him "never to shoot the ball" and that "he was raised wrong." Ariza would go on to play 18 years and develop into a premiere 3+D guy in the NBA. Brown was fired as the Knicks coach after one season.
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  • @alwayskul
    @alwayskul 21 день тому +69

    Larry Brown was great at turning around teams, but either the players got sick of him or he had an eye for his next job before the turnaround was complete. More of these stories need to come out. He did similar shit with Jalen Rose giving him all those DNPs. Rose flourished under Larry Bird.

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom 21 день тому +7

      Pretty much. The Pistons got tired of his shit after only 2 years even though they went to the finals twice. There's only so much shit someone can take no matter how successful the outcome is.

    • @davidmack5261
      @davidmack5261 20 днів тому +8

      Jalen called him "next town Brown" 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @eboooo
      @eboooo 20 днів тому +4

      Man he was cruel to Jalen

    • @lilbru
      @lilbru 15 днів тому

      ​@@BurritoKingdomsays a lot about him in his finest coaching that he was dismissed. He was meant strictly to be a college coach...

    • @LedgerLiner
      @LedgerLiner 11 днів тому +1

      Jew gonna do what jew does

  • @ifheavenwashuman
    @ifheavenwashuman 21 день тому +55

    It's unbelievable how narcissistic some of these COACHES are/were.

    • @chrislewis5069
      @chrislewis5069 17 днів тому +4

      Hmm I was just thinking that about the players. Don't let these guys fool you, they're getting paid millions of dollars, they can handle having their character challenged. It used to be that guys wanted to be good guys and honestly sell out for the team and then coaches got softer and the tough ones were complained about and basically players strike against them like a labor dispute. Coaches don't even get 2 years sometimes to turn a team around. If they don't make progress right away, they're done. It used to be a more father son relationship and they guided their players. Now players don't want that, it's more like a therapist that suggests things and doesn't tell you anything that's a hard fact

    • @ifheavenwashuman
      @ifheavenwashuman 17 днів тому +2

      @@chrislewis5069 Wait, so it's fine for a coach to tell a player he wasn't raised properly? There's almost nothing more disrespectful you could say to someone you only know in a WORK environment. Keep in mind that these are grown men. & Keep in mind this is a coach that PUBLICLY had personal issues with players at nearly every stop.

    • @dezz26
      @dezz26 15 днів тому +1

      You have to think it's 10 times at the pro level, I played in High school and College and all of my past coaches use to talk crazy. Imagine a millionaire coach going back and forth with millionaire players

    • @pearsonw3
      @pearsonw3 15 днів тому +2

      Naw, its not unbelievable. These coaches really believe their system is better than talent 😂😂😂

    • @Mark-fr7yv
      @Mark-fr7yv 13 днів тому +2

      @@dezz26 Nah it's worse at the amateur level. You're not getting paid and these coaches act like they own you. I had a coach give me a long sitdown about how I needed to push through an injury and gain some respect around here. If I had the quick sense at the time I would have asked him to pay for the medical bills on the spot since I was 18 and not getting paid. At least these guys are actually employed.

  • @slimypickle19
    @slimypickle19 21 день тому +67

    The irony is that Prime Arizas 3 & D style would've been the perfect fit for Browns 76ers & Pistons.

    • @forgottenseasonsnba
      @forgottenseasonsnba  21 день тому +10

      100%

    • @kevv13
      @kevv13 21 день тому +4

      Ariza had a prime ?

    • @jalonmoore7407
      @jalonmoore7407 21 день тому +2

      When he was helping Kobe Bryant win championships?

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom 21 день тому +4

      Not really. Brown hated 3s. 3&Ds didn't become a thing until Bruce Bowen and got really popular in the early 2010s. Tayshuan Prince was a good 3 point shooter but shot less than 2 3s per game under Brown.

    • @Andre-ko7co
      @Andre-ko7co 20 днів тому +1

      Just remember back then it was more 2&D , they didn't fully utilise the 3pt line yet

  • @pipohemm8726
    @pipohemm8726 21 день тому +25

    Basically killed Milicic at Detroit. Dude had talent but 2 years with Brown for a 18 year old from europe is toxic as hell

    • @FollowingBlaze
      @FollowingBlaze 18 днів тому +4

      True, plus you’re playing behind Ben Wallace, Rasheed, and a young developing Memet Okur . Larry brown didn’t even play rookie LeBron and Carmelo much for team USA lol

    • @KingThomas150
      @KingThomas150 17 днів тому +1

      Larry brown and rookies/young players don’t mix.

    • @andrew348
      @andrew348 14 днів тому

      Using Milicic as ammo is hilarious 😂 the dude was never going to make it no matter what

    • @Mark-fr7yv
      @Mark-fr7yv 13 днів тому

      @@andrew348 I don't think his offensive game was that good. However he could pass and defend. I remember seeing him in the preseason with the Knicks and liking some things I saw but Dantoni said he didn't work hard and didn't care and I don't think he ever got in a game during the season. Also Dantoni doesn't care about defense so it didn't matter that none of the bigs on the team played it.

  • @benjaminvazquez6413
    @benjaminvazquez6413 21 день тому +36

    crazy how many "hall of fame coach" guys truly sucked at player development. how good could some players could have been if not for the out of control egos and agendas of some of these coaches

    • @forgottenseasonsnba
      @forgottenseasonsnba  21 день тому +12

      Assistant coaches and the true glue

    • @lilbru
      @lilbru 15 днів тому +2

      ​@@forgottenseasonsnbaword to tex winters

    • @81garbur
      @81garbur 13 днів тому

      It was just tough for some older coaches to adapt to the new NBA and the new player. He was just doing what worked 20 years ago.

    • @jonathandonnelly6915
      @jonathandonnelly6915 4 дні тому

      @@81garburyou mean these old coaches don’t like not being able to abuse the power they wield. Which one is actually immature???

  • @barrywilliamsjr5390
    @barrywilliamsjr5390 18 днів тому +11

    As a long time Sixers fan, I'll never forget the fact that in the 1998 draft Larry Brown selected Larry Hughes with the 6th pick in the NBA draft when both Dirk Nowitzki and Paul Pierce were still on the board. The Sixers GM at the time. Billy King said he wanted to draft Dirk but coach Brown who was the President of Basketball Operations had an issue with Dirk being from Europe and maybe he thought he wouldn't be that good, who knows. But as we all know, both Dirk and Paul wound up having Hall of Fame careers and Larry Hughes was a good role player. It wasn't the first time the Sixers screwed up the draft and unfortunately it wouldn't be the last time.

  • @billbangz
    @billbangz 17 днів тому +8

    Larry Brown was a decent coach as far as getting players to buy in, but his narcissistic ego & stuck in that old school my way or the highway mentality ruined his credibility & coaching legacy. The man literally refused to get his star players the help they needed to win a chip because he wanted all the credit...

  • @Devere316
    @Devere316 21 день тому +14

    That Knick team had major hitters on there and blossom in other places afterward and became legendary. Larry really fumble the ball on that one, I'm sorry 😂😂

  • @jonathanariasmog
    @jonathanariasmog 19 днів тому +8

    That smoke alarm in the background is crazy

    • @Damari90
      @Damari90 18 днів тому

      Better living/ it is what it is

    • @Ramontf3
      @Ramontf3 16 днів тому

      ​@@Damari90wtf

    • @twenty20inc
      @twenty20inc 15 днів тому +1

      Yeah, I noticed that… It made me say “Hmmm…. Larry Brown might’ve been right” 😂

    • @jtlewis5879
      @jtlewis5879 14 днів тому

      I don’t know how people don’t notice it! And he’ll be tall enough to swap it out 😂

    • @Liface
      @Liface 14 днів тому

      Black people are not taught what the beep is culturally ​@@jtlewis5879

  • @ronniebobbyedition993
    @ronniebobbyedition993 19 днів тому +9

    I never cared for HOF coach Brown. I'm surprised that he won with Detroit. As a Knicks fan, he gave the Knicks one series due to his poor coaching with Indiana. And he was flat out terrible as the coach of the Knicks.

    • @chrisjacobs9101
      @chrisjacobs9101 18 днів тому +1

      It’s cause he was with a group of men who showed up to work and bought in ariza was a kid and didn’t get that

    • @ronniebobbyedition993
      @ronniebobbyedition993 18 днів тому +1

      @@chrisjacobs9101 Are you applauding Larry Brown's job as a coach with the New York Knicks? They were terrible.

    • @lizethwalker
      @lizethwalker 12 днів тому

      Malone injured

  • @MrBmick79
    @MrBmick79 20 днів тому +7

    I wanna hear what Jelani had to say about his LB experience. I'm all hear for the Larry Brown slander. For a couple of Dean Smith disciples, George Karl and Larry Brown somehow forgot how to treat men with dignity and respect. Honestly, somebody should've prolly put hands on both of them

  • @DaLumpy1
    @DaLumpy1 15 днів тому +5

    You were RAISED wrong?!?! You don't basically attack people's parents dog

    • @eboooo
      @eboooo День тому

      Yo you don't say that to people. And it's weird because he's not a selfish player dog

  • @DJRhude
    @DJRhude 20 днів тому +4

    I was mad when the Knicks traded Ariza, he just needed time to develop but ask any Knicks fan, we all saw he had potential. But getting away from the Knicks turned out to be the best thing that happened for him career wise.

  • @AS-fz5dp
    @AS-fz5dp 19 днів тому +2

    Trev is the homie fr. Down to earth awesome dude.

  • @LionPelt
    @LionPelt 18 днів тому +9

    Those coaches that opted to degrade young men, under the guise of “forging them in fire”, were cowards. They treated people poorly, because they were in a position of power. Knight, Brown, Karl etc., they were dick heads because they didn’t have to be held accountable for their behavior.

  • @DJRashadHayes
    @DJRashadHayes 13 днів тому +1

    Its crazy how stuck in his ways that Larry Brown was. At one point he was thinking outside the box in finally making Allen a 2 guard rather than forcing him to run point like he did in his first year coaching Iverson in 97, and then he becomes almost dogmatic in his philosophies instead of looking at a player’s skillset. Its crazy how much talent he traded away for veterans just because. And then the olympics, he benches lebron, melo, & D wade just because of their ages!! Just insane. And he got away with this shit for years before teams finally stopped hiring him. He ruined the olympics and three different teams. He told Tim thomas to get in the post when dude had the skillset of a 2 guard and a small forward! He couldve had Larry Hughes running the point! These players wanted to play with iverson! Imagine them growing with iverson instead of being traded.

  • @TreeSnackz
    @TreeSnackz 20 днів тому +3

    Ai said he was ready to KO him too 😂

  • @yngassa
    @yngassa 9 днів тому +1

    Imagine what Allen Iverson had to endure on a weekly basis when he was at Philly 🤦🏾‍♂️
    And yet they kept saying AI was the problem.

  • @eprince1388
    @eprince1388 9 днів тому

    We go through this on the job no matter what we do.

  • @gamefantasticcuz
    @gamefantasticcuz 21 день тому +3

    Makes you think, did he tell people in Philly not to shoot which made Iverson go all out?

    • @andrew348
      @andrew348 14 днів тому +1

      Did you ever see Tyrone Hill shoot the ball? That thing always looked like a migrating duck getting shot out of the sky mid flight. Some had to tell him not to shoot

  • @vindigga6
    @vindigga6 13 днів тому +1

    I always knew trevor was gonna be a good player if he got mentored. He went to the lakers and was mentored by kobe and probably had his best seasons imo. The knicks just had no idea how to develope him.

  • @chrisrobinson8339
    @chrisrobinson8339 19 днів тому +1

    It would have been nice to have been able to keep him on my Lakers after he helped us get a ring 💍. Shout-out to Trevor.

  • @DONTOURAGETV
    @DONTOURAGETV 17 днів тому

    He used to always be in the lower east side when he played for the Knicks

  • @ramaladingdong4998
    @ramaladingdong4998 11 днів тому

    Ask AI what the type of man larry is… legend

  • @Ldrumz89
    @Ldrumz89 20 днів тому +1

    If I'm not mistaken, I think Larry Brown called him "Delusional" in the media.

  • @TreeSnackz
    @TreeSnackz 20 днів тому

    That’s crazy

  • @ddenzel94
    @ddenzel94 13 днів тому

    Please!!!! Talk about the 07 bulls team that swept the defending champion heat. That was my rival as a kid.

  • @vindigga6
    @vindigga6 13 днів тому

    Maybe he was trying to be a tough coach, tough love to get what he needed out of you. But maybe he later realized no everyone responds well to that stuff. We should applaud his growth and he was at least man enough to admit he was wrong.

  • @ebonyknight5
    @ebonyknight5 5 днів тому

    Nowadays the players will muck these old aholes up. I love today’s new day!!!🥊🥊🥊🥊

  • @jamesball5743
    @jamesball5743 День тому

    Ariza’s nickname was Garbage Time

  • @haiasieel6099
    @haiasieel6099 7 днів тому

    Larry Clown was actively SABOTAGING the Knicks at the time. He wasn't looking to win, he was playing guys like a PAL league team. Starting guys in thier hometowns, even if they SUCKED. He could have had a PJ Carlisimo fate in NY. Im glad the players are finally speaking on him.

  • @bronsonbamnallen1633
    @bronsonbamnallen1633 17 днів тому

    There is a reason Larry Brown coached 30 different teams. His “play the right way” style was usually the wrong way.

  • @Progressive.G
    @Progressive.G 21 день тому +7

    Dude looks weird with dreads 😂🇯🇲

  • @LoyalOpposition
    @LoyalOpposition 18 днів тому

    LB was such a headache in Detroit, saying his dream job was to coach the Knicks. He hated white guys. Seriously.

  • @allgoodwoods219
    @allgoodwoods219 19 днів тому +7

    I’ve always thought Larry Brown was severely overrated. That Detroit team was great because of the players, not him.

    • @floridasportsworld
      @floridasportsworld 18 днів тому +4

      Nah, His Detroit teams were full of players that other teams gave up on. Rip Hamilton they got from the Wizards, They got Billups from the TWolves, Rasheed Wallace from the Blazers, Ben Wallace from Orlando magic, messed up by drafting Darko which was Joe Dumars choice to pick over Carmelo. Lindsey Hunter From Raptors. And the Beat a super stacked Lakers team in the NBA Finals and Destroyed them as super Underdogs. He went back to finals next year and took Spurs to Game 7 barely losing to Duncan, Bowen, Ginobili, T. Parker. He took Iverson to his only finals losing to Kobe & Shaq, and he took Reggie Miller to playoffs every year he coached with Inidan Pacers in mid 90s he was a Great Coach.

    • @liamartinproductions
      @liamartinproductions 16 днів тому

      And that 04 championship was luck from injuries and kobe ball hogging

    • @torrisfairley3227
      @torrisfairley3227 10 днів тому

      ​@@liamartinproductions That was not luck and had nothing to do with the injuries. Detroit's defense was mostly why they beat the Lakers.

  • @juliusedwards7199
    @juliusedwards7199 15 днів тому

    Basically, he’s saying the Brown told him the right thing and his ego couldn’t handle it. Marbury essentially told him the same thing! Larry knew basketball he was just a terrible communicator!!! Ask A.I.! 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @GoofyFootersRule
    @GoofyFootersRule 20 днів тому

    Thank you Trevor.
    god hasn't made a person that can talk to me that wayyyy, and I have a pro status handle....I could never pimp it out for $$$ w some goooooofy ol white ppl telling me anything.
    only my pop and uncle ron can talk to me that way.....and bless them both they passed on.

  • @andrem.thomas332
    @andrem.thomas332 21 день тому +4

    Ariza honestly had no business shooting the ball in his second year. Dude had one decent season shooting the basketball, ya'll tripping. This dude shot 42 percent from the field for his career.

  • @TheHomeman
    @TheHomeman 11 днів тому +1

    Brown to me was a bum coach who had to find a person on his team to pick on.
    He villianized ppl in order to have an excuse for his lack of coaching.
    The pistons were going to win the championship anyway and the the 76ers had Iverson and the Pacers already had a team when he got there.
    He tried to make miller the villain too.
    Sounds like coach was trying to get him to react so coach would get some sympathy

  • @jag61688
    @jag61688 21 день тому

    jesus give me whatever Jelani is puffin

  • @davethewave5501
    @davethewave5501 15 днів тому

    Mad bc you don’t want to do what you’re told? Gah damn.

  • @HewittShaq
    @HewittShaq 21 день тому +3

    Coaching is like parenting. You're not your players friends.

    • @reesematic3
      @reesematic3 21 день тому +2

      He is overrated...

    • @aaronward4162
      @aaronward4162 17 днів тому +2

      Don’t disrespect grown men period

    • @HewittShaq
      @HewittShaq 17 днів тому

      @@aaronward4162 sensitive people always feel disrespected

    • @aaronward4162
      @aaronward4162 17 днів тому +2

      @@HewittShaq Im raised by men and raised to give respect and don’t let no one disrespect me call it what you want I call your view soft some on yes master shit

    • @HewittShaq
      @HewittShaq 17 днів тому

      @@aaronward4162 nah, but there are authority figures. They don't always have to go about things the right way, but you gotta respect it. God works in mysterious ways.

  • @ericzoo6342
    @ericzoo6342 11 днів тому

    Coach Brown has always been a Napoleon. Since the Danny Manning era, he's been out of pocket...never should have been in the NBA.

  • @jayg6222
    @jayg6222 21 день тому +4

    Why would your initial reaction/feelings are to want to jump across the table and choke your coach out?? You’re a grown man!!

    • @frequentiis
      @frequentiis 20 днів тому +11

      so, ariza is human, and you're a robot, ok, gotchu

    • @DC4L1991
      @DC4L1991 20 днів тому +17

      When an old white dude looks at you and tells you “you wasn’t raised right” is a slap in the face to your whole bloodline that helped get you to the NBA…🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @samarthbhatnagar347
      @samarthbhatnagar347 15 днів тому +1

      No corporate boss would survive that bullshit and it is out of line and stupid. I don't like your game so you are not raised right, it is just privilege of I can get away.

  • @j-short5431
    @j-short5431 20 днів тому +4

    Ariza was a mediocre “3 and D” guy, who should only get credit for finessing teams the last five of their years of his career and making them think he can actually contribute to winning.

    • @dohy1
      @dohy1 18 днів тому

      A lot of former players overrate themselves.

  • @jimtib8206
    @jimtib8206 18 днів тому +3

    Ariza was a bum, immature fake tough guy. Larry Brown tried to guide him but hothead wasnt having it

  • @m.davinci9285
    @m.davinci9285 15 днів тому

    LARRY BROWN IS THE WORST COACH FOR A YOUNG PLAYER SMFH .....IM SO GLAD MELO DIDNT PLAY FOR HIM IN THE DETROIT

  • @ericwright2594
    @ericwright2594 20 днів тому +2

    larry brown is 1 of the top 5 worst coaches in nba history

    • @floridasportsworld
      @floridasportsworld 18 днів тому

      How is that when He has a championship Ring? And has been to the NBA finals 3 Times?

    • @jamesball5743
      @jamesball5743 День тому

      LB is a champion and Hall of Famer who you?

  • @lilbru
    @lilbru 15 днів тому

    People forget how raw warriors sprewell was...the best sg after Jordan in the 90s.

  • @TheHiphop98
    @TheHiphop98 21 день тому +1

    These dudes don't like us to many times they have shown whats what get them dinosaurs outta here

    • @TempeSoldier123
      @TempeSoldier123 21 день тому +2

      Huh?

    • @user-ov7uv3wx6i
      @user-ov7uv3wx6i 21 день тому +1

      How bout you get outta here. Get lost fool!

    • @floridasportsworld
      @floridasportsworld 21 день тому +2

      Look at Trevor, barely speaks proper english, long dreads, cursing every second. He just doesnt like guys like Trevor. I would have a headache trying to coach him as well. These kids are not raised right, they are being raised by women with no father and look at the results. These two adults in their late 40s can barely sit up straight and speak properly and have an adult conversation they were so high on weed its like speaking to a 15yr old. You can see why he ended up the way he did and was treated as such a kid who gained no respect and was not treated like a man because he behaves like a child. When will preople take accountability for themselves? Larry Brown was coaching someone who suffers from Arrested Development an overgrown baby.

    • @chrisjacobs9101
      @chrisjacobs9101 18 днів тому +1

      He wasn’t wrong though look at him too many like him sorry to say it

    • @lallen8462
      @lallen8462 18 днів тому

      ​@@floridasportsworldYeah Florida seems to alot of middle aged - old WGs like u who believe they are the authority over how young brothers are supposed to behave. Which is why there are none of you left in the NBA anymore lol. The inability to respect those who were raised in other cultures as men. Most of u guys usually have kids that dont even like u. Take that nonsense back to the 1800s u old fart

  • @bunnih6759
    @bunnih6759 17 днів тому

    Larry Brown is a G.O.A.T coach.....Trevor you shouldn't speak on him....atleast he was honest to tell you to your face. You not to the level to speak on Larry Brown. Fact you speaking on it he may had a point.

    • @samarthbhatnagar347
      @samarthbhatnagar347 15 днів тому

      Yeah point of shooting down a young player's confidence is the point, being old school doesn't mean you are an asshole to players and he pissed off old school guys too, all in media articles.

  • @DaYungSinChrg
    @DaYungSinChrg 20 днів тому +3

    Larry Brown was a burger coach. Wild overrated

    • @ericstratton7961
      @ericstratton7961 20 днів тому +2

      Nah he was great coach. He was just stubborn as hell and a asshole lol

    • @rell4219
      @rell4219 19 днів тому +1

      @@ericstratton7961those two qualities alone make him a bad coach 😂 Look at what he did with the 2004 Olympic team (most talented team in the world that year)

  • @floridasportsworld
    @floridasportsworld 21 день тому +5

    Arrested Development. Trevor Ariza, hood guy from California who never grew up. Larry Brown had no patience for these types of guys. I dont blame Larry Brown, he was a lagend and Ariza was not.

    • @reesematic3
      @reesematic3 21 день тому +7

      Bruh larry brown is overrated why u think stars dont really like him. Thats why the Olympic team was trash casuse of him..

    • @floridasportsworld
      @floridasportsworld 20 днів тому

      @@reesematic3 Larry Brown Coached some good teams and took them into deep playoff runs with David Robinson & Sean Elliot in the early 1990s SA Spurs, The mid 1990s Indian Pacers with Reggie Miller, then took a horrible 76ers team to the finals with Allen Iverson then he rebuilt the Detroit Pistons with Richard Hamilton, Rasheed Wallace, Chauncey Billups and Ben Wallace and beat a heavily Favored Lakers Team with Shaq & Kobe won the finals and went back to the finals the next year and lost to the twin tower SA Spurs Duncan, Robinson, Ginobili and Tony Parker in 7 GAMES. He almost won back to back finals with Detroit if not for that Spurs team. You are CRAZY To say that about Larry Brown. Ariza was a BUM. Pot head, wanna be gang member, hood mentality, single mother raised hoodlum. Coaches dont like to deal with these guys cause they are not raised right and they are not coachable at all. Waste of time.

    • @miked853
      @miked853 19 днів тому

      Wow, it’s known LB is an asshole, is it too much for you to admit that possibility?

    • @BoosterGoldEarth6
      @BoosterGoldEarth6 15 днів тому +1

      Olympic team trash bc them players were arrogant and stuck in the hero ball mode that Jordan laid the foundation for

  • @dcxxxx
    @dcxxxx 16 днів тому

    Every whyte coach back then was toxic and ruined players careers. 👌 Let's ask Allen Iverson what impact Coach Brown had on HIS career. FFS!

  • @jovantavares4598
    @jovantavares4598 15 днів тому

    Larry brown was a garbage coach

  • @bighou2359
    @bighou2359 17 днів тому

    With all these negative stories of Larry Brown, they never should've given Larry Brown money.

  • @incognitomosquito3120
    @incognitomosquito3120 13 днів тому

    Pro athletes are some of the biggest crybabies in the world.

  • @ZULIBETH12
    @ZULIBETH12 16 днів тому

    Oh hes so cool. He was gonna attack an old man. Typical though