That Pedal Show - Real Leslie Cabinet vs Neo Ventilator II, EHX Lester G & Strymon Lex
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
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In this episode we compare a genuine Leslie speaker cabinet with modern pedals designed to emulate it. The Leslie we’re using is an HL-822 model. There have been many made over the years, some valve, some solid-state and no doubt they all sound different. This is a solid-state one that we were very kindly loaned by Darren from the Vic in Swindon, UK. www.thevicswindon.com/get/main
We start with a good listen to the Leslie before diving into the pedals to see what we can learn. The three new pedals are set up to run in stereo, which is pretty much essential if you want to get an authentic Leslie sound happening out of a normal guitar amp.
No, we couldn’t find a Hughes & Kettner Tube Rotosphere, not least because it’s discontinued. But they are exceptionally good, just for the record!
We mic'd the Leslie with 2 x Rode NT-5 condensers (panned left and right) and a single Sennheiser e906. It's probably not the ultimate choice of mics, but hey, it's what we had available... you get the idea pretty well!
Pedals in this episode…
TheGigRig Three2One
bit.ly/2fW8XJP
Electro Harmonix Lester G
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2mzfmeb
USA: imp.i114863.net/k6Qvz
Strymon Lex Rotary
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2mzgn5T
USA: imp.i114863.net/ezJ2r
Australia: bit.ly/2nuAA1x
Neo Instruments Ventilator II
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2mBM7s2
USA: imp.i114863.net/AZkQj
Boss BD-2 Blues Driver
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2nuCD65
USA: bit.ly/3n1Me19
Xotic BB Preamp - No longer made, links to latest version
UK & Europe: bit.ly/32LpUSL
USA: bit.ly/3EVwxib
Australia: bit.ly/3pWC97J
Option 5 Destination Rotation SIngle
Only available used
Sonic Research ST-300 Turbo Tuner
The GigRig G2: bit.ly/2h8xSay
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
• Intro and background: 00:00-2:06
• What is a Leslie cabinet? 2:06
• Slow and fast speeds of our Leslie: 3:40
• Don’t mention the Doppler effect: 4:44
• How have we got the Leslie set up and mic’d today? 6:27
• Why stereo is important / today’s pedals and amps: 8:45
• Neo Instruments Ventilator II sounds & discussion: 10:00
• Leslie and Ventilator A/B compared: 15:13 (and again at 16:50)
• … and with overdrive? 17:40
• Electro-Harmonix Lester G sounds & discussion: 19:00
• Lester and Leslie A/B compared: 22:15
• Strymon Lex sounds & discussion: 23:35
• Strymon & Leslie A/B compared: 25:50
• What is that guitar, Mick? 27:17
• Lex & Ventilator A/B sounds: 28:00
• The inevitable Cold Shot and other random SRV moments: 31:05
• And what about stereo vs mono? 36:00
Amps in this episode
• Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III combo - no longer made, link to latest version
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2KBwMWc
USA: imp.i114863.net/JnoAR
• Marshall 1987x with 1960AX 4x12 cabinet
UK & Europe: bit.ly/31eVWmc
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3v3Xazc
Guitars in this episode
• Duesenberg Fullerton Elite - www.duesenberg.de/en/guitars/...
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
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Every time you play through a real Leslie, an angel gets it's wings...
HAHAHAHA BEST UNDERRATED COMMENT EVER !!!
thats a fact!
That’s right. You can feel the air moving. It’s real. What a difference....
Yes, but every time I gig with a Leslie I get a hernia
Although I agree, this comment really shows your age ;-)
...convinced that if this show were on broadcast television, so many new people would be inspired to learn guitar.
David Woods Agreed. Their enthusiasm is amongst the most infectious I've ever known. Music shops across the country would also sell a crap-ton more pedals.
I agree. That Pedal Show has it all... it's humorous and geeky, but honest and educational. I used to watch a lot of Andertons videos before this channel came along, and there's a place for that; but I can't go back and watch them now. Dan and Mick feel like mates I'd like to have, if I weren't a sad, geek Billy No-Mates... ;) Given the choice between documentary and music channels on Sky and TPS, TPS is my choice every time. I've watched some videos ten or twenty times.
David Woods agreed. My favourite channel. Right up my street. The niche stuff that cable / Sky can't do. No sweat. UA-cam was made for imaginative talented chaps like Mick n Dan with a passionate audience of enthusiasts like us lot.
My missus reckons Mick's a bit of a sort. Swap her for a Leslie cab and t-shirt?
Best guitar gear show by a long shot.Nothing else comes close.
This is too much to handle. Even as a UA-cam video. This is the sound I have loved and cherished since childhood. You guys are truly the best! I remember growing up reading Guitarist magazine, and the moment Mick did his first demos for them, I remember thinking: 'I hope he plays everything they review from this day onwards'. Such a great guitarist! Dan - your expansive knowledge, geekery, playing and heartfelt reactions are always so entirely spot on. I'm not even in the room, and I want to cry! There's a broken Leslie in a music shop down the road from me. They're not selling it since it's broken. Meh - how hard can it be to fix? I wonder if I can persuade them to part with it... Scratch that. I'll just turn up with a set of piano wheels, and pick a few well-built compatriots, and hope for the best. If anyone at home asks me, I'll just say it's a new fridge, and blame it on you guys. Thank you for the constant inspiration. Best show on the internet! Ever.
+Adam Lee Wow, thank you Adam! It's tremendously kind of you to say such nice things - we genuinely appreciate it. :0)
We say go down there, tell the guy you're buying it and make him take your money. Might be a project.... but what a project! Thanks for watching! (Mick here)
Thank you so much for answering, Mick - it's not kindness, but the truth! And you know what; now that I have your approval, I will try my best to do just that. I'll pretend I didn't get a new pedal today after watching your videos, and that I'm still rich. Should work a treat! :) I truly hope you guys continue making these brilliant videos! The scrupulous attention to detail from lighting, to meticulously accurate recording and production does not go unnoticed. These shows are such a treat. Long may your viewing, tone-hunting legions continue to grow! Looking forward to the next video!
@@AdamLeeGuitarist Did you get it, were you able to fix it?
@AdamLe🎉 0:00 😢eGuitarist
The real Leslie is magical!! But the Ventilator II isn't that far away, what a great pedal!! Even with the low speed on, the chorusy sound is so full and beautiful. Really good job guys, great video!
I'm Sean, on my wife's account... but I fix Leslie's all week long and it never gets old... I'm the regional Hammond organ guru, tech, repair guy, who came into the business through guitar. I've always dug the classic Leslie tones, the valve amp in an ACTUAL Leslie, is sublime on a guitar, and breaks up like no other amp. It was the original hi-fi amp for guitar... just coming from everywhere! The 122 and 147 are the big popular, or professional models... using two 6550 tubes and similar drivers... but the 147 seems to have more of a rock reputation... even though the whole thing seems to be very close... 122's you see in a Church often, in pristine condition, 147's you see beat to hell, in a rock band, sounding like a pissed off mashall that's somehow spinning! Other good ones are the 145 shorty, and some solid state ones like the 711, and the legendary ROCKER, the 925!! with a JBL D140 in the bass and some JBL horn driver that literally weighs 20 pounds and has a magnet the size of a paint can! That 925 is one of the few Leslies that can just make you say when... in the old days, the organist had a problem keeping up with the band, especially the guitarist, the Leslie 925 turned the tables and put armageddon at your fingertips! 200 watts of very clean tone, and excellent drivers... it's sound is musical at all volumes, and stays together until there is nothing but Leslie filling the room... like FOUR silver face Twin Reverbs with the JBL drivers... the warmth and slight drive, but complete clarity... Three Dog Night liked the 925 so much, they used it in their back line... for everyone! Guitar had one, keyboard player had TWO and the bassist had TWO as well... Just because, you might as well have the best amplifier in the world... and after that... you might as well make it SPIN... just in case... lol
Too. Coooool! Funnily enough I wAs looking at one on Reverb earlier, Mick here. An 815 I think. Internet says no!
Interesting re 3DN. In some other UA-cam shootout I felt like Hammond's own pedal imparted the tone coloration I perceive as being more correct.
Thanks for your insight Sean. I briefly owned a early 70’s Hammond Porta B w/ Leslie it was paired with! Very cool but sold to my pal putting together his dream studio and I used the funds for some vintage guitars before market popped! Been waiting on a procrastinating tech for 6 years to get to fixing a Leslie build around same time frame as Fender Vibratone cabs. But alas, just found a Vibratone for $700 on CL. Played two Vibratone at GC years ago and both broke within 15 mins of playing them😳Have a great tech I work with but also played my pals Vent and ….🤷♂️decisions, decisions! Cheers!!
I've only watched the first 5 minutes (so far) and the happiness on Dan's face made me SO happy. Your show is awesome.
Yes!
My best friend of 20 years is an extraordinary keyboard player/organist,
and I've spent good bit of time listening to (and unfortunately hauling) his collection of Leslies. I've been fascinated by/obsessed with their sound for a long time. My wife got me a Lex for my birthday last month, and it was great hearing you guys play the Lex and its contemporaries. Cheers guys!
Love, love, love this. The Leslie cabinet is one of the greatest inventions ever. The Leslie and the B3 are a match made in heaven.
Holy shit. Dan's tele through the Leslie is the greatest thing in the world. Ever.
What an amazing episode! :-) Just to clarify something about the Leslie being used; the HL822 is a 'Rotosonic' Leslie, which has the normal lower rotor replaced by an oval 6x9 speaker spinning around inside a drum. This is much heavier than the normal bass rotor, so ramps up and down even slower than a Leslie 122 or 147. The pedals are all modelling those classic designs, so it's not quite comparing like-for-like... Anyway, best gear show on UA-cam - keep it up! :-)
Dan, you look overcome with emotion. Understandable!!
I like the sound of the Strymon for the portable Leslie.
Holy Mother of Jebus. That's the most beautiful sound I've ever heard in my miserable life. Ofc we've all heard it on records, but to have it isolated and miced up like that..
The rotary on my Keeley DS is really nice. It sounds better than many rotary pedals that I've heard.
Dan’s private little chuckle at 7:10 whilst Mick is talking about mics was golden... I laughed out loud! 😂
That Ventilator has one of the greatest sounds I've ever heard come out of a pedal. Wow.
"Man, this sound is SO big; it's so, SO big!" This demo led to me buying the Lester G so thanks for the excellent sounding demo!
I used a small Leslie during the mid '80s, in my bar band days. I had the local PA electrician wire up a 25-foot extension, so that I could place that cab on the other side of the stage. Even from there, the sound went "through" my head as the rotor spun. I got the idea from Zep and especially Frampton, really gave me a leg up on the other players around town.
👏👍👊
I’ve had the gift of knowing a fabulous organ player who happens to also own a Hammond B3 with original Leslie cabinet.
The trick he uses is clicking the speed back and forth from hi to lo to get a warbly low/med speed...
It was like heaven hearing it. Legit left me speechless!
Only 9 minutes in and that Leslie sounds GORGEOUS!
I generally refuse to watch videos as long as yours. I gleefully watch every minute of your videos. You guys are at the top of my favorites list on this God forsaken app. END UA-cam CENSORSHIP!
Great video! And thank you for the links. It makes it easy to go back and forth and hear all of the demos.
Strymon Lex has a strong left to right wash that sounds very good as well. Truth to tell, the two of you are seasoned players and that's 90% . You both put on a very good presentation.
we used to haul the leslie and b3 up two flights of steps. Funny. we all have bad backs! use the pedal.
That sounds just amazing! What an eye opener for me. Brilliant show chaps
Ah... The bane of my existence! LOL I can't believe I missed this episode! Ever since I first heard Paul Kossoff, Leslie West, George Harrison and even Three Dog Night Leslie guitar sounds in 1969 when I started playing (Electric) I have been overwhelmingly consumed in achieving just the right Leslie sound. Having purchased literally every simulator. At one time I used Motion Sound having both a separate Low and High Rotor cabinets. But I have never really achieved the Paul Kossoff FREE "On My Way" sound that I have dreamed of.
Truly impressive. My number one show for guitar effects.
The pedals sound really good. But the depth and wideness of the leslie is just incredible sounding.
your show is the best! bcs first most, you guys are experiencing for the first time just as you audience. the ventilator ll has no pop in between modes and that is awesome. thanks a million guys, and keep up the good work. thank you
My favorite moment in any TPS show - watching Mick and Dan get their SRV on. Awesome.
A proper comparison with the real thing. Guaranteed to put a smile on your face!
I just about pooped myself when you started to play shine on you crazy diamond. Love your guys' show, greetings from Chicago!
THAT SOUND!!! I can't get enough of it!
My Buddy asked for my address last week.... Today a Lex Shows up on my front step... Best $0's I ever spent! Clearly a worthwhile friendship to boot! Thanks for another great show guys!
Nothing beats a real leslie, by far. The pedals don't even come close to the full rich warm sound of a wooden leslie cabinet. I own a Neo Ventilator because bringing my leslie is way too much of a hassle. It's great, it does it's job, but man when I play on the leslie it's just magical. Play one chord, on the guitar or Hammond organ, it doesn't matter, and you just know instantly that that's it, the thing you want, THE sound. You can't hear it on video or youtube, it's an experience to be experienced in person.
SjoerdHammond agree 💯. I think it’s a combination of the amp itself, the wooden cabinet, and the opposing Doppler effect you get from the rotors spinning in different directions. The sound literally surrounds you, and if you’ve never experienced it, you don’t know what you’re missing. Here’s a short video I did of my 145 with guitar.
ua-cam.com/video/B8cdgGoX0kI/v-deo.html
As a keyboardist and guitarist, this is one I've been waiting for and I was not disappointed. Nothing will ever really compare to a real deal Leslie. The Neo Vent sounds pretty impressive if you can't really bring a Leslie to the gig, but it is simply a different effect when it's ran into an amp and not swishing around the room.
I can't wait to see a similar vibe with amp tremolo vs tremolo pedals. Particularly if you demonstrate amp tremolo with a cranked amp. I found that when I get my Carr Rambler on 10 and engage the tremolo, the effect is so much more pronounced and 3D sounding since I'm getting the OD from the power amp and the tremolo is a tube bias tremolo.
+Jake Stewart Music Nice one Jake. Tremolo is on the way! We're both fans of a nice trem. :0)
That Pedal Show If you're doing tremolo you could try comparing pedals to in amp trem, and get some nice clean amps in (cough cough Milkman sound cough)
I just added the Supro tremolo to my board and it knocked off my Lex. It seems a harmonic trem is what I've been hearing in my head...beside the tinnitus, that is.
Mick's Two Rock is a better clean amp than any Milkman though.
trashcanmagic I was thinking more in terms of the milkman having a nice tremolo
it's so nice to see you enjoying the doppler sound from the original Leslie and the effect it has on you, i love that kind of thing. Please keep up the good work. It has the same effects on me.
Very well done, Dan and Mick! Thank you so much! Best Leslie pedal demonstration video on the internet! Steven Wilson use the Option 5 live!
I've been waiting for to see this topic addressed for over 15 years. You can see it on your faces guys, this sound has been embedded into our souls (Harrison, Gilmour, SRV, Badfinger, Clapton, etc...) and geeks like us know the reason for it is he Leslie. I've had countless conversations with friends on this very topic for years and it's only been in the past few years pedals have come close to making it at happen. You guys picked the right ones too! (I currently own a few of these...New mini-vent on the board now). Can't wait to share this with all the friends I've had this conversation with over the years.Well done guys!
+Tyler Vander Ploeg Thank you Tyler - glad you enjoyed it! There will be a round 2 at some point with some other pedals. Such a cool sound!
That Pedal Show it’s been a year. Please revisit the Leslie.
Thank you for such an eloquently
Written and thoughtful comment
Tyler!! You summed it up
Perfectly! 👏👊👍
I saw FOCUS in the early 70's... Their 147 Cabinets were stacked higher than their Mains! It was awesome! The sound coming of the stage was HEAVEN.
Leslies were made for yodeling
I've waited soooo long for this show!!!! Fan-freaking-tastic!!!!! Thanks guys!!
Another great show! Listening to this through my stereo there is just no competition - the pedals sound good, but next to the spine tingling Leslie they sound like 2d cardboard cut outs. Mick and Dan's reactions say it all. Considering this was the first time they'd mic'd a Leslie they did an awesome job.
I absolutely love how emotional Dan gets when he hears a tone that moves him.
My biggest problem with this show is the roller coaster of emotions every Friday. I'm so happy when the video is finally released, but then when it's over, but so sad when I have the realization that I'm going to have to wait an entire week until the next one is released. I feel like a heroin addict waiting for his next fix!
Love you guys!
+thelastspike2012 Thank you TLS. We wish we could just do this all the time.
That cabinet must weigh a TON! You guys are living the thoughts in my head! Love this comparison!
I've been waiting for this one, thanks gents!
Finally! Thanks guys. The most polarising type of pedal on the market
Is it me or Dan's playing gets better and better each show ?! :-)
Kinda like the echoplex episode - just blown away by the sound of the real deal.
I have loved the Leslie sound since I can remember music, and to have close replication of that sound in a pedal is a beautiful thing. BIG THANKS to the fine gentlemen (you guys ROCK!) who put this video together as it included a few that I was interested in, and ended up selecting the Lester G pretty much based on the video...unpacked it yesterday. With affordability in mind but still what I thought was #2 to the Neo Instruments Ventilator II (and of course with the actual Leslie being the benchmark), the Lester G delivers...ran my Les Paul through it and into a Fender Deluxe...has great ability to dial in that true Leslie sound both clean and driven. I'm happy with it!
Heard the term Leslie and the different pedals a few times but never knew what a Leslie actually does.
I was hoping you guys might have done a video about it and was not dissapointed.
Thanks for the great content you bring every week and the awesome backcatalog of information you guys have!
The effect everyone wants but nobody knows it until they hear it
One of the best things is forgetting it's That Pedal Show Friday and then getting the "That Pedal Show uploaded a video" notification.
Would Dan's electric mistress into a Leslie be too much awesome to handle?
Thanks for this episode. Love the Neo Vent
I love it when you too get "Speechless" about a product. And yes, the real Leslie is another country. So airy and floating that can not be duplicated. There's a reason why a B3 player with two of them seems SO happy! Best from Nashville. PS I also love that no matter how successful you get with those great G systems, you are two kids having fun.
I don't know how I missed this video the first time around, but holy crap-balls! That Leslie sent chills up my spine! Incredible, glorious sound came out and my jaw was on the floor. Can you dedicate a video to just the Leslie! :-)
Exactly same here!
the pedals were all nice BUT the real deal was KILLER. gave me chills
Back in the early 70s my keyboard player bought a 900 Leslie which was transistorized. Not sure but I think it was the big brother to the one you have there. We had anther Keyboard player friend that had 147s. The difference in sound was very noticeable. Two things the horn driver did not brake in and the bass barrel spun in the same direction as the horns.I fixed that by slightly cocking the barrel motor sideways and crisscrossing the belt. worked fine.The Driver broke in eventually however you can not beat the tube sound. Thanks guys for sharing.
Because of a weird delay on the shipping for a full sized vent, I ended up being able to a/b it to the Lex. Very similar in many settings, but the lex sounded more like an effect than the Vent. Since I run mono, the ability to mix in dry signal on the full sized Vent is what sold me on it. If you run a wet/dry, the mini vent is probably the way to go and save a few bucks.
I don't work Fridays and have two young kids at home... They have to play with plug sockets and oncoming traffic for at least half an hour while I get my pedal fix for the week
The ONLY mod pedal on my board is the Tech 21 RotoChoir. I LOVE it!! I know you can't do them ALL, but I would have LOVED to see that one as a part of the mix. In stereo with the cab sim, it does pretty damned well!!
+Gary Stackhouse Part two beckons... Thanks for watching!
I love the fact that you could see that they felt an obvious emotional reaction to the Leslie at the start of the video. Priceless ! 🙂
Wow best show ever and I must say the Leslie blows the others away as I expected it would because it's moving real air and holy crap that thing sounded fantastic. I hope someday they come up with the pedal that will be even close but for me there is nothing close to a real Leslie. Great show guys loved it loved it loved it.
Everybody who hears a real rotary speaker in a room has to pick their jaw off the floor. It’s just beautiful and remarkable to behold.
Dan's lack of words after the Shine On riff perfectly summarizes how I felt after seeing that.
+Stev0BabaGhanoush You are not alone. Nothing like the real thing!
Ever since I saw the Neo Ventilator II on this video a few months back I made it my mission to find one at a reasonable price. I finally did! Thanks guys, for having this on the board in the video!
so how much did it cost U ? :-D
@@SEOTeamBerlin About 350 I think before shipping.
More than 75k subscribers. Congratulations!!!
I engineered at a local studio for a few years and we had a B3 and Leslie- the wood cabinet with slits and the tube amplifier. If you cranked the organ up to full output, that thing would just about blow the windows out. And it sounded absolutely glorious while doing it, too. The pedals are great for what they are, but nothing comes close to a real Leslie.
andrewt248 I 'don;t see the point of the multitude of these comments. They're demo'ing pedals. If you want a real Leslie go ahead and get it for your apartment and blow out your windows all you want.
Duesenbergs are great guitars, but I'm more and more convinced that tele is the most versatile guitar there is. Also, that Maiden into the Leslie so so good.
I've used the Lex for a few years and it does a well in mono at getting the magic of acceleration and deceleration, but the width of soundstage in stereo of the real Leslie is unapproachable by any pedal here today. Great show guys!
Mick, not 10 seconds before you said it, I thought to myself, “What is that Duesenburg?” What a stunning guitar.
I'd love to see you guys run an original Echoplex/Echorec/Space Echo into a genuine EMT Plate reverb into that Leslie cab. Talk about an impractical pedalboard! ;)
Was thinking exactly the same! From all the shows so far, the bits of kit which have impressed me most have been the ancient gear!
Mark Peskett the EMT is larger than a human!! It could be the pedalboard! Goodness, impractical is a bit of an understatement!
Might be a useful exercise just to do that in software; easier to execute, anyways.
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Mojo Bone Heresy! Every kid and his iPhone can do that.
Only man sized (and weighted) gear produces the sound that brings a grown man to tears!
The physical feel is something you don’t get through UA-cam videos, but when you’re in a room with the Leslie, there isn’t a pedal in the world that can emulate this.
But for recording, the pedals are absolutely amazing, with guitar, bass and keys.
The Leslie and roto-speaker pedals featured here made me feel like I was a 15 year old again, hearing people like the Edge using rhythmic delay and washy reverb. Such an amazing and inspiring sound.
+Clay McCown Yay!
I don't know live but when you're listening this video through some good headphones + Hifi Headphones preamp none of the pedals are even closed to the real deal.Not only the 3D effect is totally out of range but all of them compress the sound when the Leslie sounds crystal clear.
Very interesting video anyways.Good job guys.
Thanks for the pedal shootout. Your caliber of videos, and editing are superior. Thanks and CHEERS from Toledo, Ohio.
+Christopher Taylor Thank you Christopher! We'll make sure Simon reads this. He's in charge of that stuff!
Neo Vent wins hands down! Great episode guys, love your show! Dan, review the Lazy J20 please!!!
Dammit. I never thought I needed a Leslie effect until now. Cue the next "you paid how much for that?" discussion at home...
Very inspiring episode, guys! Makes me want to play right now. Keep it up! Cheers.
+Helder Gonzales Yes!
At last ! The coolest modulation effect of all IMO ! H&K Tube Rotosphere is the best I've found !
Tubes, analogue ! Worth checking out ! Thanks for the great show !
+Greg Boland We'll probably do a part II with that included... cheers!
You Guys are Great.. I Really Enjoyed This One
Cheers John 🤓👍
I probably use delay and chorus more but Leslie is my favourite effect. But you can’t use it too much because it’s so overpowering. But what a sound. Nothing like a real one but just not practical when pedals can get you in the ballpark.
Wow...that was the best guitar playing through a Leslie I’ve ever heard. Glad to hear that the Strymon Lex, while approximate, it did very well.
+Daniel Hall yeah, Dan here, I like the lex too :)
Thanks for inviting us all to hang out with you two cheeky lads; well done you
a sound i crave but will never be able to attain, unless i win the lottery. great vid as always mick and dan :)
Niiiiiice!
(although as with the Binson and the Echoplex, the slightly depressing realisation that there's nothing quite like the real thing)
+Savage Cabbage Indeed. We like that.
Great video guys! Worth noting that the Lex also stops the rotor if you hold down the fast/slow switch.. Secondary functions also control the slow rotor speed, ramp up and down time, cab direction and a 6db+/- boost.. Great to hear a proper Leslie in action.. Good luck carrying it back! :-)
Ethereal and hypnotic.. Nothing like it. I’ve used one on a Rhodes.. heavenly. Thanks for your demo.
i was sold on the neo when greg koch started using it........and this just confirmed it
+1963strat Yep, us too. We hung out with him at the Copenhagen Guitar Show last year and it sounded cracking!
Yes the original Leslie was made of walnut and yes, it weighed an absolute ton! But you didn't mind lugging it around to gigs because you also were lugging the Hammond B3 around which weighed like maybe 4 Leslie cabs!
I hear you. But at one time in the seventies, I had a 122 and a 145 (padded for a Twin Reverb. Definitely too much weight, but they moved the air. Switched to a single 760, a chopped down an L-100 and a RHODES! Every gig was a weight room session. Ah, the sound.
Now, its an SV2/Clonewheel & a Vent.
I always enjoy seeing a pedal I have appearing on TPS's board. The one pedal on my board that's been there the longest is the BB Preamp. It's perfect.
Awesome show guys - this is the one I’ve been waiting for! Couldn’t agree with you more about the Neo Ventilator II as well.
Having owned a rotating speaker cab in the 80’s and 90’s (actually the Yamaha RA-200, identical to the one Gilmour uses) I was in the market for a Leslie sim pedal and eventually settled on the Neo Vent II. The realism and the attention to detail on this pedal is great. As you indicated, there is a row of secondary functions which allows further refinement of the sound. Something also worth mentioning is that the mix controls have two functions. They allow you to dial in how much of the swirling Leslie effect you want and/or the simulated mic distances from the upper and lower rotors. That’s pretty cool to have as a lot of the classic Leslie/rotating speaker sounds that Frampton, Gilmour, Stevie Ray, and Joe Walsh used live where actually blended in with their dry sound so they could control the amount of effect (not just the mic distance) they wanted. Not sure all Leslie sim pedals have this.
@MIck, If you have the pedalboard space and want to get in and really tweak your sound, I can whole heartedly recommend the Neo Vent II full version rather than the mini for its attention to detail and flexibility. Absolutely a killer pedal and quite easy to use.
+Nasser Sharaf Cheers Nasser. Definitely don't have the space, but yes it is brilliant. It's an indulgence, but one which may get some attention... :0)
Love that Leslie sound with guitar. Roye Albrighton was an expert with that sound which can be heard on most Nektar albums.
By the way, you guys are nailing it!
No Boss RT-20? It's certainly not the most expensive and probably not the best, but running through my Marshall it sounded fantastic - gave me the Peter Frampton Leslie vibe more than close enough for rock and roll.
Amazing! Every show keeps getting better guys. Absolutely loved this and the EP-3 and Echorec vids. For the record, they ruined delay pedals for me too Mick.... Damn. Thanks for great videos guys!
+wreckoningday Cheers Wreck! It's always a game of two halves when you play the awesome stuff. Inspiring, but very hard to go back. Thanks for watching!
GussyWells here!
U guys are so incredible the Leslie effect is one of my favorites
Wore my "That Pedal Show " Hat todayI received a few compliments!.
Btw the new cut looks great Dan
Mick looks great as usual
+Gussy Wells Thank you Gussy. That's some snazzy head gear you have there. :0)
I have owned nearly all of them... I like the Hughes & Keltner... I would say the best BUT it's effect is not extreme enough, it is to subtle... but it still wins with me.
I'm liking the Lester G. The attack mode makes the difference. In a strange way makes it sound more organ like.
Makes a guitar sound fine. Doesn’t cut it for organ, IMHO. Has anyone tried the Strymon with keys?
The faces you guys make are the same I make when I hear the leslie...another fantastic video!!
Love the passion. Contagious. Subscribed.
I had a Leslie 900 (two piece cabinet w/100w preamp similar design to the Leslie they have in the video but much bigger) back in the '70s, that was a heavy MF to move everywhere. I spent four months selecting a rotary pedal to replace it more recently and only the Strymon Lex was the one that captured that warm grind just right. Even mono it had more sparkle than the Pigtronix, Boss, or even the official Leslie pedal by Hammond. I tried out about 15 different pedals at the time, spent hours tweaking and swapping and those other three were the closest to that sound. The Neo wasn't out when I was doing the search, otherwise it would have been a contender as well it sounds very well engineered too.
The specs say that with all controls at midpoint, the Lex is modeled after the Leslie 122.. and to my ears, it nails it.
Okay, I'm an old fart, but it really has that classic sound like on Badge by Cream, It Don't Come Easy by Ringo Starr, or No Matter What by Foghat.
It sounded the most 'real' to me. The Strymon Lex also has hidden functions. If you hold down both switches, you can dial in the slow chorus speed, change the mic to front or back, add/cut more warm, tubey drive, and change the speedup/slowdown time. If you hold the left switch, it stops the rotary effect, and you still get that creamy tone through the preamp without any swirl coming out of the center of the stereo field, also a good sound. I use an expression pedal to vary the speed on stage.
+Majik53 Cool! As you can probably tell - Mick here - hidden features drive me nuts. But yes, it wouldn't be Strymon if it didn't have a whole load of other stuff. Glad you love it!
Hi Mick! Thanks for responding, your show is awesome! You two get a bit chatty for my tastes, but still excellent content.
Yes, it would have been more convenient if those hidden controls were on the front panel, instead of having to stop, bend over, hold two switches down with my foot, and tweak the other settings as needed. Unfortunately that probably would have made an already pricey pedal ($299 US) even more clunky and expensive. Amazing sound, though.
Keep up the great work, and have a happy!
No Matter What is Badfinger btw....But you're right. The Neo is a Boss of a pedal and so is the Lex. Strymon don't make crap! I have a C3 and 145 myself and the sound of playing through the 145 is better than almost anything else in the world. Neo Vent is the closest i've found to it. Tube Leslie distortion is a unique sound.
Cheers from the USA!
I have the mini vent which is also great. Love the real thing though, sounded killer. Great video guys. Thanks.
Colin Robertson tell us about the mini vent please!
Not as many options as the big pedal but it's the same size as the strymon and sounds great. There's a guitar and a organ version. Some think the organ version sounds best with guitar.
+Colin Robertson Greg Koch (honk) is a big fan of the Mini Vent too. Must be good if he likes it....
@Colin Robertson and the Mini Vent 2 has both the guitar/organ versions in one :).
Actually he uses standard version of ventilator on all wildwood demoes. And he runs it mono into ToneKing Imperial.
Awesome! Thanks for that treat!! Cheers!
This is fantastic!!!! Reminds me of Clapton playing Badge. I love your shows, very educational 👍🤘