KSP - Space Shuttle Contingency GREEN abort to Bermuda
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- I continue the study of Space Shuttle contingency aborts, with a 2 Engine Out GREEN scenario towards Bermuda
For bug reports, open up an issue on the GitHub repo
System : i5 13600k@ 5.1 GHz , 64 Gb RAM, RTX3090Ti
KSP version 1.12.3
Modlist (non-exhaustive) :
-Real Solar system + dependencies
-EVE Raymarched Volumetrics (Early access)
-ballisticfox's RSS Reborn
-Realism Overhaul + dependencies
-Kerbal Operating system
-Principia
-Kerbal Konstructs
-KerbinSide props
-OSS statics
-Tundra space center
-My own fork of STS Locations (github.com/giu...)
-kOS Ferram plugin
-My own fork of Ferram Aerospace (github.com/giu...)
-My own fork of Space Shuttle System (github.com/giu...)
-My kOS Shuttle OPS1 script (github.com/giu...)
-My kOS Shuttle OPS3 script (github.com/giu...)
Music:
Burn It Down (Instrumental) - Boy Harsher
He's Still Alive/Romero - Alan Howarth, John Carpenter
Heart of Night - Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
Man, imagine being the flight controller at Wade International. It's a normal day, you've been informed of the upcoming shuttle launch, but you're barely thinking about it as you manage traffic and keep planes moving, when all of a sudden you get a message warning you of an extremely supersonic glider hurtling towards your airport with no capacity to go around and you have 3 minutes to clear all traffic to make way for this barely guided missile to block your runway for the rest of the day.
While we're fortunate this contingency never needed to be executed, it's still a real testament to the engineers and mission planners at NASA to ensure the astronauts had plenty of options for a variety of emergency scenarios. Not to mention the international cooperation required to make sure the Shuttle could even land at all! Great video!
ECAL is often forgotten about when talking about Shuttle abort modes. Great to see that you actually implemented it
the music for these abort videos are something else, just ambient enough to let me pay full attention to whats going on while still providing a whole bunch of atmosphere that makes the experience super fun. Not to mention all the crazy kos stuff going on, the displays are so easy to understand for something so complex
I could imagine a lot of Bermudans would be terribly excited to see the Space Shuttle landing.
They'd be like "WOW!!!"
Yeah it’d be like the biggest historical event in their history, like ever.
Growing up I was always curious about the various abort modes. NASA videos or simulations just didn't exist on the topic. Thanks for all you do to bring these absolutely bonkers, almost certain death scenarios to light
Looking at all of these aborts made after the disasters, it makes me wonder what would an abort from a Vandenberg Launch looks like.
As well the possible aborts if the Shuttle carried the Centaur-G.
It's probably catastrophic, but I hope you could try that scenarios.
As ever these programs are just badass as usual!
Giulio made the DROOP video just for you
Haha! Yeah I watched that when it got published, felt like DiCaprio pointing at the TV when I read it was a Vandenberg Abort.
Not to mention with Enterprise!
1:51 I was expecting a TAL to start, heading for somewhere like Banjul, and *then* another engine failure, so that part caught me off guard😅Really impressive! I can imagine it took a lot of testing to find the velocity windows for Bermuda as I noticed you were still on an MEP approach
it's very easy to arrive too fast at TAEM interface, underbank while supersonic, and be low on energy on the other side
Insane work as always! Would love to see more of these scenarios, especially for any out of Vandenberg if possible
Love the arcane shuttle abort mode missions and the music is terrific
Your videos made me love the shuttle again.
Outstanding work as always, sir!
Spoiling us with another abort mode... we're lucky ♥ This must take a lot of effort.
babe wake up giulio dondi uploaded a new video
Incredible job
master of your craft
good job nice as usual
these scripts are amazing
I'm unsure as to whether or not your guidance can handle it, but an AOA after a launch into a polar orbit might be interesting to see (from the standpoint of the ops displays -- externally, of course, it would be mostly indistinguishable from a normal launch / reentry). Yeah, a shuttle would never be launched into a polar orbit from KSC, but the _programs_ were capable of flying a polar trajectory and associated abort modes.
Babe wake up, Giulio Dondi posted another shuttle abort video!
Nice work! I also wonder what a yellow or orange abort is? I've seen it pop up in one of raiz's videos. In addition, at 1:11, why would a 2 engine out be blue, but a 3 engine out be green? Shouldn't the shuttle have more energy if only 2 engines are out? Thank you for reading!
Green does not mean "better". Blue does not mean "worse". They're just labels.
Yellow and Orange are for RTLS, I'll make a video about them
@@giuliodondiSounds good to me! Can't wait to see it!
This is really cool! Did the shuttle have any abort scenarios for a triple engine out? Would this always result in loss of the orbiter?
Well done !!!
You mention in the video that Bermuda is the only East Coast Atlantic site reachable by a 40 degree launch, but that the window occurs well after the Negative Return point. What are the abort options between those two points in time?
Hold on and pray
Yeah that’s a black and blue zone. Literally. Black is certified death and blue is minimize pullout gs and airspeed so the crew can leave
Thankfully Dragon and Starliner have no black zones, and I'd be pretty sure the same is true for Soyuz and Shenzhou. Something about a Launch Escape System seems to help...
For 2 engines out it's pretty much bailout every time. On a 52° mission Cherry Point, NC is available much earlier on
@@giuliodondi My brother was stationed at Cherry Point for most of his US Marine Corps career. He told me about the special training they had to have every now and then so they could be ready in case unexpected company from NASA ever dropped in for dinner. Obviously, that never happened, but he told me he remembers two times during KSC landings when they got a phone call from Houston telling them to clear a runway because weather in Florida was getting a bit funky after it was too late to not land (the plan was to basically tell the shuttle crew to hang a left instead of a right so they'd end up in North Carolina instead of Florida when energy and airspeed hit zero).
I noticed that the OMS engines were firing well into the reentry, is this to dump propellant for weight management?
CG mangement since it's too far aft.
In real life they would have used an interconnected RCS dump through all jets at once, it's quicker and also the OMS shouldn't be fired below 80kft
Are there plans to add things other than just the abort modes to OPS1? (Standard Insertion, Droop, etc.) No problem with it, just curious
Droop is already implemented and I'm making a video about it.
OMS-1 for standard insertion or underspeeds could be the next feature
Can this program work with KSP RP-1 and it’s engine failure modes?
No, unfortunately, no i test it with ro and rp 1 and it didn't work. There were missing pieces of the shuttle. The programs can't check it because of the missing pieces.
Is the BDA abort available in current OPS3 or an update is coming?
All published and functional
@@giuliodondiWorks great! Amazing job with the guidance.
Very nice!
What's your cloud mod?
Eve volumetric clouds in Patreon Early Access
@@giuliodondi Thanks!
Is there a special RSS config? I use a relatively recent versions (I think from a couple months ago) and they don't have this shape, but I'm in stock planets..
@@therathalosabusnardo923 I haven't played stock since 2016 so I wouldn't know. This is RSS reborn as stated in the modlist
Is this SOCK?
All of the mods used are right there in the description. TLDR: no, it is not the SOCK.
It only needed those plans because they can't abort in 90% of the time because of the solid rocket boosters. Would it be build today the FAA could not give it permission to fly. The crew safety is just horrible.
No, the SRBs account for
@@giuliodondi the 25% of the flight time is the most critical time of the flight