For years Christians told me I must talk to an abusive family member because that was what forgiveness means. June clarifying the difference btw reconciliation and forgiveness lifts a burden of guilt off my back. Thank you.
I endured vicious emotional abuse for 11 years from my so-called “Christian” husband. It was our godly pastor who called him out and gave me the spiritual “permission” to leave the marriage. That was 22 years ago and the scars are deep and permanent. My prayers for all who are currently suffering in similar situations.
It’s been seven years since I got out of mine. I was in for 13 years. Glad your pastor was able to see the truth. I didn’t have the same experience at first but he ended up seeing the truth after the fact.
@@marydiggins9294 I actually did not want to go to the pastor. My former husband set up that meeting because he was so sure that the pastor would side with him and reprimand me for “not submitting to his headship.” I remember breaking down and weeping when the pastor listened intently to both sides of the story and then looking directly at my husband and saying, “you have completely broken her.” Even my own family had sided with my husband, that is how convincing he was, and I was under the dangerous and mistaken notion that I had to be loyal and not share with anyone what was going on in our home. I believe that wonderful pastor may have saved my life.
I’m in that place right now. I’ve separated from him but man it’s hard because I want to leave for good but I’m scared God won’t give me release. Why is that?!
•Reconciliation is conditional, based on repentance, when trust is earned. •Forgiveness is not condoning bad behavior, it’s turning the offender over to God so that GOD can handle the debt owed to you!! HE WILL REPAY!🥰 •Consequences are still appropriate, even when you forgive!! Agree Agree agree!!
tearfully I listen to her sing as I finish another day of doubting what is going on with my life. she has a heart of gold and I needed to hear, may God help me discern in my situation
There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. Praying for you to trust in the Lord and truly know the depths of his love for you. Your love, devotion and faithfulness wont fix your spouse. Let Jesus do that work. Praying for you. If you are in danger, please leave. ❤
I used to listen to June’s radio show regularly, I listen to Allie and subscribe to this channel. I haven’t listened to this entire episode yet, but seeing the phrase “emotional abuse” in quotation marks, to my shock, caused tears to immediately flood my eyes. I have spent my life, since age 11 (I am in my 60’s now) experiencing the reflex of my stomach cramping and being flooded with fear and dread upon simply hearing the footsteps of first my dad, then later, my husband. My body just goes into high alert mode in anticipation of the cruel, hateful, demeaning words soon to follow. Day after day, month after month, year after year. I have learned to lean hard on Jesus, rely on His approval, His love and friendship. I have accepted I can only choose my own attitude, I cannot choose for anyone else and will not give in to bitterness. Just as words like “Nazi” or “violence” have been abused so as to obliterate the power of their meaning, I get that the term “emotional abuse” has also been carelessly applied. But believe me, it is devastating when it is truly happening.
When speaking about forgiveness vs reconciliation, I thought of another example. I recently saw someone say they were not filing charges against someone who had done them wrong because that was the Christian thing to do, but as June was saying there should be consequences for bad behavior even though we forgive them otherwise the perpetrator will continue to steal and not just cookies.
I love this message and June does such a good job distinguishing between two completely different concepts! I've struggled in every Christian circle I've been a part of as people who did wrong were just "let off the hook" there was no accountability for their actions and I was just supposed to "take the high road" or "forgive and forget" or be the bigger person. No! We are to confront wrong and call people to live a better life! Not enable bad behavior. I have some crazy stories from church ministry, non-profit work, and an incredibly horrible experience on the mission field. I spent years working on my own heart and then had the opportunity to travel to Rwanda and that trip changed my life! I met so many people who had lived through some of the most atrocious things a person can endure, and yet, they had, by the power of God, been able to forgive and as a country they worked so hard to do the even harder work of reconciliation! They have reconciliation villages where people are living today in peace with neighbors who committed horrible acts against their own family members. It came with years of the difficult work of listening to people, sharing pain and anguish, forgiving, and working alongside each other to create a better life. So many unbelievable people there living the most biblical picture of reconciliation I've ever seen!
Yes! Too many Christians, who don’t know their Bible, speak the secular chant of allowing sin, “do not judge.” We are to judge and discern and hold people accountable, both Christians & non. There are always consequences for sin and too many don’t know.
Best. Episode. Yet. "Forgiveness isn't letting someone off the hook. It's taking them off your hook and putting them on God's hook." I'm a believing woman attending a reformed church in the South, and I'm two years out of an emotionally and psychologically abusive marriage. I have two degrees and I am a journalist, but it took an outside voice, a counselor, to help me recognize the "abuse" in my marriage. I didn't accept the label at first. I used my training as a reporter to vet and examine the idea. And, over time, I came to accept it. But I'm glad to share that I found a network of support from people -- including my pastor and family\childrens pastor -- who understood AND supported me. God has --very unexpectedly -- brought someone else into my life. We're married, and the Lord has redeemed so much through this dynamic. We're both so grateful for that.
June Hunt is amazing! Forgiveness does not mean the offender gets away with the harm caused, it does not mean you forget what was done as that would make someone vulnerable. Forgiveness is more for the person who was harmed to release their hurt. If someone is able to safely tell someone you forgive them, that person or persons may reconsider what they did. If they don't, it is not your responsibility as your true relationship is with God.
I know this is probably predominantly a womans channel (but I like listening to Allie on a wide range of issues) and I'd be the first to say men dominate physical abuse but I think its important to constantly keep in mind abuse is not gender specific. Some of the most emotionally abused people I see in marriages are men ( men tend to do it behind close doors ). We all know of at least one marriage like that where the man is pretty openly berated . What makes male abuse so onerous is the component of often being the stronger vessel and the threat of that physicality but quite a few women have the temperament that if they had the force they would be equal for that as well. I was in such a relationship and didn't even really identify her abuse as such until it was over because she didn't have the strength to do much harm with her attacks. It was only when I was out of it that i realized - wow that was abusive even if it didn't hurt that badly. The root of all such actions is NOT anger - it selfishness and self centeredness. Love is valuing someone greater or equal to yourself. You lash out and hurt others because your agenda matters more in your mind than the person. Anger and abuse is a fruit of that root.
I agree that emotional abuse is not sex specific. Both men and women can be guilty of it. That doesn't make it any more or less right though. It's definitely more difficult to track than physical abuse making it quite dangerous to confront. I knew someone that was slowly changed by her husband. She looked worse and worse every time I saw her. Turns out she wasn't allowed to leave the house without him present at all times, wasn't allowed to see her family, wasn't allowed to talk to people in public. As far as I know, there was no physical abuse but she looked miserable from essentially being on house arrest by her husband not allowed to have contact by her family. I'd say that's a good example of emotional abuse.
THANK YOU. I was going to say that men are abused as well. Women can be unspeakably evil. Maybe they don't have the physical strength to do the same things to a man that a man could do to them. But they can be evil in their words and conduct and emotional/psychological abuse. And yes, even sometimes physical, because men are told they can't fight back. That's baloney. Woman OR man, you don't sit there and let someone beat on you.
Is emotional abuse grounds for divorce? No. Sarah abused Hagai, and she, with Ishmael, mocked her and Isaac. God doesn't approve of either side. If divorce occurs and neither side commits adultery, then they should seek reconciliation.
What a gift to the world Miss June is. I did not know who she was before now but this blessed me and she has obviously blessed so many people over the years. I pray God continues to bless her and her ministry to give Him glory! In Jesus name...
LORD BLESS You Mrs June for sharing TRUTH!! More women than we realize are 1/3. I was 1...LORD help me be like YOU!! ...LORD BLESS You Allie Beth for sharing such needed TRUTH ❤️ 🙏
Last part when she sang that’s song I heard it when I was a little girl and it brought so much memories. And wow, healing is so hard but yes we have to work on tension just giving it to God. It is so hard for us these days we have to be with and looking for God daily to heal from battles.
thank you for interviewing june. i watched this a month ago and it has helped in my healing with my dad(which was very much like june's) i've decided to write an apology for my wrong doing and speak it aloud because my dad has been dead since 9/11 2001. it is the Lord in all things isn't it? shalom to you young lady.
I agree. It was answered with the way it was framed on the episode title. Leaving versus divorcing. Leaving is clearly right. Divorcing is not as clear in that circumstance, biblically.
As awful as it is to say this, I wish my parents would have divorced. My dad could be a great guy. He was typically good to me. We weren't necessarily super close, but he wasn't abusive toward me. However, there were time periods when he was verbally and emotionally abusive to my mom. I was just mostly emotionally abandoned by my parents (and other people). My brother and I grew up with secondary trauma from hearing the verbal and emotional abuse for years. Our brains didn't know it, but our nervous systems did: we didn't know if he was going to hurt our mom. She was too dependent on him, so she would never have divorced her. I just wish she had.
I’m your situation I don’t disagree but I wonder if you would’ve been hurt by then splitting up as well especially since you didn’t realize (as most children wouldn’t) the trauma you were faced with
Personally I do not blame my parents for my life. I thank them for giving me life and an opportunity to be well fed, exposed to an education and other things. All choices thereafter were mine. I refuse to be a victim . Was their relationship perfect? Nope! Most human relationships are not and by that I mean even on the playground,at work,on a flight. That's how life is..Stop blaming your Mum. Respect her and understand that she had choices and made the choice that was best for her and her family at that time. Too many victims these days, it's so tiring.
@jenniferngure1136 where did she blame her mother or father? Look at her comment closely, she's simply saying that her parents' poor relationship was difficult for her and her brother to endure. That's not blaming anyone, it's merely acknowledging that people's sins can be detrimental to others
Thank you so much for addressing this topic. I am so glad to see that Cristian people are finally admitting and talking about this. I don’t normally care for your interviews topics. But this one is important and I appreciate it.
Grateful for her story. I will store this video for future use. I have struggled with resentment and unforgiveness since I've been an adult, even though i pray , read up on the subject, etc. There's been abuse and neglect from my parents, and then my siblings have been very harsh and hateful people. And the part that is really hard to deal with, is how do you forgive someone that keeps doing the same thing to you? I'm not in physical danger, so i don't think i need boundaries, like i can not be around you..... But dealing with a sister who is jealous and passive aggressive is very hard, esp when i love my little nephew and nieces. Plus i think it's sad when siblings cut each other off. So i have worked through how to deal with it to some degree, but i still think about past incidences and get angry and bitter. But June gave me some new things to think about, like i should not carry the burden, but give the burden to the Lord. And honestly, i don't want the Lord to deal harshly with anyone in my family, i do want them forgiven, so i need to think like that when i remember a time they've hurt me. And agape love - what is in their best interest? It's in their best interest for them to accept God's forgiveness -- that's what it comes down to for every single person. So me holding on to resentment will not help guide them to God's forgiveness
Wow, I used to listen to June Hunt many years ago and I especially appreciated this difficult topic and it reminded me of a show(s) she’d done before! One thing I would like to note is Romans 12:14 Bless those who persecute you. Bless and do not curse. We listened twice to June saying the offended is to pray for them but said that some people think you are to bless them. Well, You are supposed to according to Romans 12:14. When we bless them or pray a blessing over them, it changes our attitude. It’s up to God with how he is to bless them. Not us.
I had to skip to the part of "forgiveness vs tolerance" and will listen to the rest later when I have more time/mental energy. Thank you so much! This video came at just the right time, as I have been screamed at for several days in a row by an older parents. There is zero apology/repentance. I cannot escape.
Beautiful testimony of a heart restored by God. Thanks for this episode, it had a very clear explanation of what forgiveness truly is and it was very edifying to see June as an example of Christ for us, the younger generations.
Jesus Christ died for our Sins According to the scriptures and that he was Buried and that he rose again the third day praying for everyone everyday God bless you all 🙏🙏🙌
Just today my 43 yr old daughter told me after her Dad and I divorced for above reasons which was also physical abuse as well, her math teacher in high school smarted off to her about her Dad and my divorce. She was deeply hurt. That was 30 years ago and she is just now telling me. That teacher went to church I was attending at the time. After divorce the people for most part at that church were done with us. I have forgiven my kids Dad but keep safe distance
I divorced after 12 years of an unrepentant spouse. Verbal, emotional, mental, financial, spiritual abuse. Abusers will use whatever means necessary to abuse or neglect due to their own unresolved past traumas that they REFUSE to face. They are full of fear, and invoke fear onto those who try to love them... It took the HOLY SPIRIT to comfort me, encourage me and give me the confidence I needed to believe I am still worthwhile after a divorce... It is NOT the end of the world, but a new beginning for those searching for freedom from abuse. Protect yourself, your children, your future children by keeping yourself safe and in a place of God's glory. GOD isn't getting glorified in an abusive marriage. Satan is...
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Quick answer… yes. Any abuse is cause for divorce. In a perfect world, divorce wouldn’t exist, but I don’t believe God wants us to keep ourselves and our children in danger, physically or emotionally. It’s not being unfaithful to your vows to escape someone who’s abusing you. Emotional abuse can kill someone’s soul. That can be just as damaging as living in a physically abusive situation.
"Quick answer… yes. Any abuse is cause for divorce. In a perfect world, divorce wouldn’t exist, but I don’t believe God wants us to keep ourselves and our children in danger, physically or emotionally." NO. You are entitled to your opinion but not to call it God's. A woman or a man should DEFINITELY get out of Dodge if there is abuse but Jesus gave only one exception for divorce and thats adultery. Besides saying "any abuse" is just an open ticket for divorce for any reason. I have heard people claim they are abused for all kinds of things -even because spouse was forcing them to be fiscally responsible or was insisting the spouse curtail very close relationship with opposite sex friends.
Yes! I was verbally/emotionally abused as a child as well as physically. The physical didn’t happen as often but the verbal and emotional words and treatment destroyed me as a child. Thankfully, the Lord got me and my siblings out of that situation as well as my father who tried his best. The Lord has healed that broken side of me when He redeemed me! But I would never tell someone that they have to stay in that situation because it is damaging to one’s self. Also, that spouse is most likely not a believer so if the spouse wants a divorce after separation, you can say yes and be free from sin.
@GoodPersonTestWebsite So women should suffer abusive marriages, though God calls husbands to protect, love, provide for, lead, and honor their wives? What if it costs them their life or sanity?
@@WCove99 I think you are underlining the issue with your comment. The bIble is VERY clear what is the only legitimate reasons for divorce. Our argumentation is not scripture. DO you have to physically stay and get beat? no and IMO you should protect God's temple your body and children but you can leave and not get a divorce. Two different issues. The good news for women who obey Jesus words is - 95+ percent of men who act like that will move on to a sexual relationship with another woman - not stay celibate - freeing the woman completely - the rest repent , God changes their life and a family is saved to glorify God for his grace. If we reason our way out of some bible verses and commands of Christ , it betrays our discipleship and we will end up doing that in other areas ( and reasons for divorce) as well.
Wonderful, wonderful. So glad you had this. Now I need to comment about what came up on your podcast as an advertisement. I'm 77 and I don't know much about podcasts, so I don't know how people can advertise on your podcast. I don't know if you have to allow it or not. June Hunt talked about what scripture says and how we must follow what God has commanded us in scripture. I am a Christian and my daily desire is to obey the Lord as faithfully as possible. So, there is an advertisement for Tucker Carlson where Tucker says that there are so many lies spewed at us ( my paraphrasing). He should know!!! I have done research on him and he is spewing LIES CONSTANTLY. June says you have to confront the evil and not just pretend that it's not there. Tucker Carlson needs to be confronted. Not to confront his lies is contrary to what the Lord commands.
Domestic violence covers the multiple types of abuse, not just physical and for those educated in abuse, you know that multiple types of abuse are experienced by the victim interchangeably not just one.
Emotional abuse is still abuse and yes it can be caused for divorce if not corrected. God hates divorce but I don’t think that He approves of emotional or physical abuse either.
Abuse is a sign that the abuser is not fit for a christian marriage (or marriage at all though the Quoran allow abuse by a muslim man), thus there isn’t really a marriage at all and we should rather speak of annulment rather than divorce
@@GoodPersonTestWebsite Love is to will the good for the other person! Love isn’t Hollywood romance, uncontrolled passions & drama! A person that constantly hurt others in the family (spouse and children) is not fit for the responsibility & vocation of marriage
For child protective services in NY, it is very difficult to prove emotional abuse towards a child. I rarely see it in cases. We require a severe effect of it on a child. What is the definition for an adult then? And if the adults are able to endure this abuse, and aren't affected by it as much, their kids probably are very affected as they watch it.
Matthew 5:28-29...a man who sits and watches porn, has committed adultery. Porn destroys the marriage bed, and it destroys the marriage. It is almost worse than the physical because it is easier to hide and justify. I am not making a statement to justify divorce but to separate until reconciliation can happen.
If it threatens your well being, it's probably abuse. That includes financial abuse. Emotional abuse doesn't always look like anger. It can also look like really cool, seemingly even tempered manipulative actions. Some men are trained to almost never get expressively angry, but still have LOADS of anger that they channel into addictions (even socially acceptable addictions like food, spending money or porn). They refuse to grow up and take responsibility and behave like a husband or patriarch. An adult woman cannot be taken care of by a boy even if he's in a man's body.
Hope this video gives real solutions for terrible men who give their wives such a hard time. The Church does an awful job at REALLY addressing abuse, or if you aren't going to call it emotional abuse, men being complete a**holes to their wives.
God hates divorce and the Bible is very clear on obedience to the husband, this lady is wrong. Women are called to witness to the ungodly husband with their conduct. This lady’s take is totally unbiblical!
@@OlgaSmirnova1God never says we should accept abuse. It sounds like this might be your situation and you’re fearful of leaving. God understands. In a perfect world, marriage would be a beautiful expression of Christ and the church. Unfortunately we aren’t in a perfect world. If you’re being abused, you need to remove yourself (and your children if this is the case) from that situation. It’s not okay to just take it. God doesn’t want that for you.
@@WCove99dear feminist, would you show me where it says unless, they are abusive? Ephesians 5 22 Wives, obey your husbands as you obey the Lord. 23 The husband is the head of the wife, just as Christ is the head of the church people. The church is his body and he saved it. 24 Wives should obey their husbands in everything, just as the church people obey Christ.
What is emotional abuse? The term is so vague. I’ve seen this used as a reason for divorce and when I asked one of the partners of the couple what was going on that gave them cause for divorce it was things like ‘he didn’t care about me’ ‘he didn’t take me on dates’ It doesn’t make sense that you could biblically divorce someone just because you didn’t care for the way they respond to you. Verbal, physical, and sexual abuse makes sense. You can say this person cursed me, raped me, took all my money so I couldn’t buy food etc. but what do you say for emotional abuse? He made me feel bad? Emotions are just responses to our environment and relationships so it seems emotional abuse is a misnomer.
I'm sorry the person you asked didn't have a real answer for you, but I can tell you that yes, emotional abuse absolutely is a thing. It often involves gaslighting and manipulative, controlling behaviors. Often goes hand in hand with verbal abuse but is not identical to it. Has a lot to do with control and eroding a person's identity. Yeah. It's a thing.
It can look like threatening a person for spending time with their family, repeatedly sending them verbally abusive messages, threatening to hurt yourself if they ever leave you, telling them they are responsible for your emotional well-being, convincing them that they have to do exactly what you say or your life will somehow be ruined, berating them harshly for hours over a simple mistake, constantly accusing them of something that they can prove they didn't do, ignoring them for hours or days as a punishment, keeping a person always guessing about what will upset you so that they are always walking on eggshells, threatening to take their children away every time they don't do what you want, etc. Sure there are people who misuse the term. That doesn't mean that it's not real.
Well lucky you, you haven't experienced the hell that is real emotional abuse. People who have been victimized don't need ignorant people minimizing their pain. Emotional abuse is so wide ranging, you can't even begin to explain it because it also involves other types of abuse. How about a husband who uses porn and then refuses to have sex with his wife? Who criticizes how her body feels and says it's not good enough, so he has to resort to other things. Would you like to live through that and then get condemned by other Christians for divorcing? Or have a spouse who just decides to completely ignore you and not speak to you at all, but then at work he's all friendly with everybody and they think he's a great guy? Or he refuses to give you any affection at all, but will only show affection to your kids in front of your face and random people he barely knows yet won't touch you? The truth is if a believer is going to divorce over "emotional abuse" it's over seriously destructive, long-term patterns of behavior by an unrepentant person they more than likely begged for years to treat them right and it isn't going to be over something stupid like not going on enough dates.
Emotional abuse, is in my personal example, my husband screaming in my face to intimidate me. Telling me I’m stupid, worthless, useless and unimportant. He will take away love and affection to punish me, even when I’ve done nothing wrong. Love is not transactional and yet it is to someone who thinks this way. He’s deserted me when I needed him. Refused to get me medical help when I couldn’t do it for myself. It looks like an extremely arrogant, selfish and hostile person who uses you as their emotional punching bag. They take every problem out on you. They put you the lowest on their priority list and make you beg for a simple hug. They will choose ANYONE over you. They tear you down instead of lift you up, and all the while make you think you deserve the mistreatment. You question your sanity. You feel isolated and stuck and nobody around you can ever agree on what you should do. People minimize it but they don’t have to live it. Have your husband back you into a corner and scream in your face that he hates you, he doesn’t ever want to see you again and then two days later… he’s fine. It’s a cycle that continues on and off forever. Unless that person gets saved by God.
15:24 note that there is a big muslim population in Russia/former soviet union, and that has probably impacted the general culture. Quoran 3:34 advice and recommend violence against the wife in order to control her! Marriage in islam is a contract between the bride’s father and the bridegroom, thus a totally different basis than the christian marriage. Glad to hear that violence isn’t recommended in the Bible at all!
I think the problem with labeling so many problems experienced within marriage as “emotional abuse” is that we psychologize the problems which pigeonholes them into this box of intractability, instead of approaching the problems from a Christ-centered standpoint which would involve prayer, marriage counseling, getting the family involved and also the church community involved. Women rely on support systems more than men so holding these men accountable with the guidance of other strong men is crucial. Things such as the husband not allowing the wife to go somewhere by herself or restricting her ability to do certain things seems like a physical threat in my opinion, not an emotional one. He is literally forcing his presence upon her and restraining her with the threat of physical retaliation, even if it’s “mild” such as taking her car keys or something similar. The biggest issue for me is when children are involved, divorce is incalculably devastating. Our ancestors were stronger than the people we are today it seems. They stayed together through plenty of emotional trauma!
God says he hates divorce! If it's sexual and domestic abuse than you should absolutely get law enforcement involved and separate (not divorce) for your own safety till death do you part. If you do file for divorce than you ought not to get married to another man again because your "ex husband" is still alive. Biblically speaking your only aloud to get divorce and marry another man when infidelity is involved because that's a breaking of the covenant.
Emotional & psychological abuse is often much more constant and can be more cruel than physical abuse. “From such people turn away” is literally in the Bible, after it lists the traits of an abusive person. What the Bible does not say is “unless it’s your spouse” or “unless it’s your family member”. Abuse is abuse, and a loving God is not an abuse enabler.
Okay, I know these episodes are prerecorded, but in the future could you consider having a sort of filter for the microphones? Constantly hearing the saliva in the mouth of a guest is really distracting and hard to listen to at times, though I love listening to what this woman has to say. It’s just a suggestion. I’m sure I’m not the only person slightly bothered by this.
H.L. Hunt (June's Pops) was a very wicked man. I truly hope The Lord changed his heart and he repented. Interesting how the Hunt family (owners of the KC Chiefs) never mentions him publically.
EMOTIONAL ABUSE IS PRODUCED BY SIN AND THE INFLUENCE OF HELL OVER A PERSON. When a person is dominated by its sinful nature or is highly influenced or controlled by hell, SIN AND EVIL determines its actions and decisions. Self-control is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. "The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." (Galatians 5:22-23 NIV) The world seeks and uses human strategies and solutions to behaviors that are provoked by SIN. That is why they are never overcomed. "The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. "(Galatians 5:19-21 NIV) SIN CANNOT BE OVERCOMED WITH A PSYCHOLOGIST OR PSYQUIATRIST CONSULTATION. ONLY BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS THROUGH REPENTANCE FROM OUR SINS AND RECONCILIATION WITH GOD THROUGH JESUS. Whoever conceals their sins does not prosper, but the one who confesses and renounces them finds mercy. (Proverbs 28:13 NIV)
No abuse is cause for divorce. If you're going with what the scripture says. I know not a popular opinion but it's what the Bible says. Jesus made it clear divorce is purely condoned in God's eyes for the result of unfaithfulness. I didn't say stay in your home. You can and prob should leave the abuse. Of course. But u don't divorce, u separate and pray constantly for them and hope one day to Reconciliate and they find the truth to be set free. Your marriage can be the biggest mission field!!
This is what people don't understand....... It doesn't say you have to stay and take the abuse.....but it doesn't actually give you the grounds for divorce. Unpopular opinion I know.... But in my opinion women in particular are too quick to jump to divorce these days just because they are not "happy ". 🤦🏼♀️
@@johnsmit5999That doesn’t mean “the whole world” means every person who exists. His Word does not return void and His sacrifice wasn’t a failure. If He died for everyone then why do people go to Hell?
Hmmm, not quite sure about this one. Though she says that emotional abuse is grounds for divorce, she fails to do 2 major things. First, she fails to define emotional abuse. (In a world that is filled with woman's rights and easy offense, this is dangerous water.) Secondly, she never addresses any passage in God's word on divorce. She addressed passages on anger and violence, but not divorce. Hmmm, I think that would be needed to see what God says about divorce and the grounds for divorce before we do something this detrimental to the holy (union of husband and wife and promote divorce for situations that God may not deem acceptable. This is huge. I would be very wary of her advice. Of course, people in abusive marriages should get help (family, friends, police, separation, etc) and there are some very terrible marriage situations. But let us stay true to God's word. For further reference see Matt. 19. (Side note: like June's mom, I would guess that a lot of abusive marriages also have adultery (the only scripture given reason for divorce.) But when this kind of advice is given without being argued from passages on divorce, this isn't wise or biblical.
Is emotional abuse cause for divorce? According to this podcast it is but that's not biblical though 🤔. My problem with this episode is that women are going to watch this thinking to themselves as long as I feel emotionally abused, according to scripture ( because this is a Christian podcast ) their justified in divorcing their husbands🤦🏿♂️. For example: If their husband is verbally abusive or stop caring them financially and stop telling her that he loves her and says that her sister cooking is better 😂 etc. because these things also fall under "emotional abuse". This old woman was basically using tactics that the left uses when comes to abortion and gender when they say but "what about the 2% who got pregnant from being graped" and "what about the 2% of intersex population" to justify abortion and that there no such thing as gender🤦🏿♂️. Ladies don't listen to Allie on this one ( i assume she agrees with elderly woman seeing she didn't make a disclaimer of sorts) even though she's usually right on a lot of stuff. I'm actually disappointed giving how smart Allie is😩. Ladies be sure to read the Bible before quickly agreeing 🙏🏿
When I look in the comments section I am rather disturbed by the fact that the Christian women here seem to be totally out of touch with the fact that the behaviors described as emotional abuse are absolutely by no means less characteristic of wives than of husbands. In fact feminism is inciting wives to treat their husbands abusively. I do not think these female commentators are ready to see women be divorced by their husbands on the massive scale that would take place if the things they are expressing here were made into principles to be implemented.
I don't believe that I can recommend Allie Beth to others anymore until she repents and begins to uphold scripture's teaching on marriage. I fear that since she got angry at the Red Pill crowd she has begun to go in the wrong direction.
Is emotional abuse grounds for divorce? No. Sarah abused Hagai, and she, with Ishmael, mocked her and Isaac. God doesn't approve of either side. If divorce occurs and neither side commits adultery, then they should seek reconciliation.
Forgiveness does not mean getting back in line for more abuse. Do not idolize the institution of marriage above the well being of a child of God. Should a woman stay in a dangerous home and model to her children that is how she should be treated?
Its interesting that you picked that story, because God told Abraham to go along with Sarah in sending Hagar and Ishmael away, which we could in fact count as a "divorce". Though as you said, God cared for all of them and also promised to make Ishmael a great nation. But in this case, this mother and son leaving was the right thing to do. I could see emotional abuse being abused as a reason. But in other cases, it could be needed. We have to be led by the Spirit....
For years Christians told me I must talk to an abusive family member because that was what forgiveness means. June clarifying the difference btw reconciliation and forgiveness lifts a burden of guilt off my back. Thank you.
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“Just because there is forgiveness doesn’t mean there are no consequences.”
I endured vicious emotional abuse for 11 years from my so-called “Christian” husband. It was our godly pastor who called him out and gave me the spiritual “permission” to leave the marriage. That was 22 years ago and the scars are deep and permanent. My prayers for all who are currently suffering in similar situations.
It’s been seven years since I got out of mine. I was in for 13 years. Glad your pastor was able to see the truth. I didn’t have the same experience at first but he ended up seeing the truth after the fact.
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❤️Glad your pastor was a help. So often abusers isolate their victims, and they don’t seek spiritual and emotional support.
@@marydiggins9294 I actually did not want to go to the pastor. My former husband set up that meeting because he was so sure that the pastor would side with him and reprimand me for “not submitting to his headship.” I remember breaking down and weeping when the pastor listened intently to both sides of the story and then looking directly at my husband and saying, “you have completely broken her.” Even my own family had sided with my husband, that is how convincing he was, and I was under the dangerous and mistaken notion that I had to be loyal and not share with anyone what was going on in our home. I believe that wonderful pastor may have saved my life.
I’m in that place right now. I’ve separated from him but man it’s hard because I want to leave for good but I’m scared God won’t give me release. Why is that?!
•Reconciliation is conditional, based on repentance, when trust is earned.
•Forgiveness is not condoning bad behavior, it’s turning the offender over to God so that GOD can handle the debt owed to you!! HE WILL REPAY!🥰
•Consequences are still appropriate, even when you forgive!!
Agree Agree agree!!
That was incredibly powerful for me as well!
tearfully I listen to her sing as I finish another day of doubting what is going on with my life. she has a heart of gold and I needed to hear, may God help me discern in my situation
There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. Praying for you to trust in the Lord and truly know the depths of his love for you. Your love, devotion and faithfulness wont fix your spouse. Let Jesus do that work. Praying for you. If you are in danger, please leave. ❤
I used to listen to June’s radio show regularly, I listen to Allie and subscribe to this channel. I haven’t listened to this entire episode yet, but seeing the phrase “emotional abuse” in quotation marks, to my shock, caused tears to immediately flood my eyes. I have spent my life, since age 11 (I am in my 60’s now) experiencing the reflex of my stomach cramping and being flooded with fear and dread upon simply hearing the footsteps of first my dad, then later, my husband. My body just goes into high alert mode in anticipation of the cruel, hateful, demeaning words soon to follow. Day after day, month after month, year after year. I have learned to lean hard on Jesus, rely on His approval, His love and friendship. I have accepted I can only choose my own attitude, I cannot choose for anyone else and will not give in to bitterness. Just as words like “Nazi” or “violence” have been abused so as to obliterate the power of their meaning, I get that the term “emotional abuse” has also been carelessly applied. But believe me, it is devastating when it is truly happening.
When speaking about forgiveness vs reconciliation, I thought of another example. I recently saw someone say they were not filing charges against someone who had done them wrong because that was the Christian thing to do, but as June was saying there should be consequences for bad behavior even though we forgive them otherwise the perpetrator will continue to steal and not just cookies.
She is the 80 year old that i want to emulate. Good bless Miss June.
What a lovely way to close the podcast.
Standing ovation for Miss June! ❤❤❤
When anxiety was great within me your consolation brought joy to my soul praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you all
As a victim of verbal, emotional, mental, and physical abuse by my parents, I can assure you it's very real.
I love this message and June does such a good job distinguishing between two completely different concepts! I've struggled in every Christian circle I've been a part of as people who did wrong were just "let off the hook" there was no accountability for their actions and I was just supposed to "take the high road" or "forgive and forget" or be the bigger person. No! We are to confront wrong and call people to live a better life! Not enable bad behavior. I have some crazy stories from church ministry, non-profit work, and an incredibly horrible experience on the mission field. I spent years working on my own heart and then had the opportunity to travel to Rwanda and that trip changed my life! I met so many people who had lived through some of the most atrocious things a person can endure, and yet, they had, by the power of God, been able to forgive and as a country they worked so hard to do the even harder work of reconciliation! They have reconciliation villages where people are living today in peace with neighbors who committed horrible acts against their own family members. It came with years of the difficult work of listening to people, sharing pain and anguish, forgiving, and working alongside each other to create a better life. So many unbelievable people there living the most biblical picture of reconciliation I've ever seen!
Yes! Too many Christians, who don’t know their Bible, speak the secular chant of allowing sin, “do not judge.” We are to judge and discern and hold people accountable, both Christians & non. There are always consequences for sin and too many don’t know.
If you didn’t know her dad was the billionaire Hunt you’d never know by what she shared about her life. That’s a true picture of humility.. ❤️
Thank you! I was wondering that all along.
Best. Episode. Yet. "Forgiveness isn't letting someone off the hook. It's taking them off your hook and putting them on God's hook." I'm a believing woman attending a reformed church in the South, and I'm two years out of an emotionally and psychologically abusive marriage. I have two degrees and I am a journalist, but it took an outside voice, a counselor, to help me recognize the "abuse" in my marriage. I didn't accept the label at first. I used my training as a reporter to vet and examine the idea. And, over time, I came to accept it. But I'm glad to share that I found a network of support from people -- including my pastor and family\childrens pastor -- who understood AND supported me. God has --very unexpectedly -- brought someone else into my life. We're married, and the Lord has redeemed so much through this dynamic. We're both so grateful for that.
This is just an amazing episode! Thank you for having June on to tell her story! I pray it will impact many souls for Jesus!
Thanks for allowing June to share her story and how God redeemed the pain.
When people talk about godly ladies…June Hunt is that!! Wish I could spend a week with her!
I absolutely love her. She put my mind at rest with scripture.
I just LOVE June Hunt! Thank you!
June Hunt is amazing! Forgiveness does not mean the offender gets away with the harm caused, it does not mean you forget what was done as that would make someone vulnerable. Forgiveness is more for the person who was harmed to release their hurt. If someone is able to safely tell someone you forgive them, that person or persons may reconsider what they did. If they don't, it is not your responsibility as your true relationship is with God.
I know this is probably predominantly a womans channel (but I like listening to Allie on a wide range of issues) and I'd be the first to say men dominate physical abuse but I think its important to constantly keep in mind abuse is not gender specific. Some of the most emotionally abused people I see in marriages are men ( men tend to do it behind close doors ). We all know of at least one marriage like that where the man is pretty openly berated . What makes male abuse so onerous is the component of often being the stronger vessel and the threat of that physicality but quite a few women have the temperament that if they had the force they would be equal for that as well. I was in such a relationship and didn't even really identify her abuse as such until it was over because she didn't have the strength to do much harm with her attacks. It was only when I was out of it that i realized - wow that was abusive even if it didn't hurt that badly. The root of all such actions is NOT anger - it selfishness and self centeredness. Love is valuing someone greater or equal to yourself. You lash out and hurt others because your agenda matters more in your mind than the person. Anger and abuse is a fruit of that root.
I agree that emotional abuse is not sex specific. Both men and women can be guilty of it. That doesn't make it any more or less right though. It's definitely more difficult to track than physical abuse making it quite dangerous to confront. I knew someone that was slowly changed by her husband. She looked worse and worse every time I saw her. Turns out she wasn't allowed to leave the house without him present at all times, wasn't allowed to see her family, wasn't allowed to talk to people in public. As far as I know, there was no physical abuse but she looked miserable from essentially being on house arrest by her husband not allowed to have contact by her family. I'd say that's a good example of emotional abuse.
Agreed, I've see that more, and it's horrible either way
True!
THANK YOU. I was going to say that men are abused as well. Women can be unspeakably evil. Maybe they don't have the physical strength to do the same things to a man that a man could do to them. But they can be evil in their words and conduct and emotional/psychological abuse. And yes, even sometimes physical, because men are told they can't fight back. That's baloney. Woman OR man, you don't sit there and let someone beat on you.
Is emotional abuse grounds for divorce? No. Sarah abused Hagai, and she, with Ishmael, mocked her and Isaac.
God doesn't approve of either side.
If divorce occurs and neither side commits adultery, then they should seek reconciliation.
What a gift to the world Miss June is. I did not know who she was before now but this blessed me and she has obviously blessed so many people over the years. I pray God continues to bless her and her ministry to give Him glory! In Jesus name...
She has a radio show 'Hope In the Night', very helpful.🙏
LORD BLESS You Mrs June for sharing TRUTH!! More women than we realize are 1/3. I was 1...LORD help me be like YOU!! ...LORD BLESS You Allie Beth for sharing such needed TRUTH ❤️ 🙏
Thank you for this podcast, June is a delight and so encouraging, what an incredible woman of God ❤
Thank you so much for this. The explanation of reconciliation and forgiveness is so helpful
This really touched me! Thank you for sharing!
Last part when she sang that’s song I heard it when I was a little girl and it brought so much memories. And wow, healing is so hard but yes we have to work on tension just giving it to God. It is so hard for us these days we have to be with and looking for God daily to heal from battles.
Wow!!! I had never heard of June Hunt. That was without a doubt the most incredible talk!!!
Thanks for allowing God to use you to bless us 🙏 🙌 ✨️ ❤️
This was brilliant 🙏🏻🙌🏻
This was so good! Thank you for sharing truth. I loved hearing her sing and play at the end. Beautiful.🤍
thank you for interviewing june. i watched this a month ago and it has helped in my healing with my dad(which was very much like june's) i've decided to write an apology for my wrong doing and speak it aloud because my dad has been dead since 9/11 2001. it is the Lord in all things isn't it? shalom to you young lady.
Especially love the song at the end! 🤧💛☺️🥰🙏Love June Hunt!
I thank God for June Hunt, Hope In the Night. Very helpful 😅🙏🙏👍
June, you have so much wisdom. Thank you for sharing it with us.
I don’t feel that the question was really answered but appreciated the episode.
Around the 9 minute mark she answered the question 🙏🏻
I agree. It was answered with the way it was framed on the episode title. Leaving versus divorcing. Leaving is clearly right. Divorcing is not as clear in that circumstance, biblically.
@@mj23chai_Mary_Ben_Eliezer23 “That person has a biblical right to move out of harm’s way,” isn’t really answering the exact question.
As awful as it is to say this, I wish my parents would have divorced. My dad could be a great guy. He was typically good to me. We weren't necessarily super close, but he wasn't abusive toward me. However, there were time periods when he was verbally and emotionally abusive to my mom. I was just mostly emotionally abandoned by my parents (and other people). My brother and I grew up with secondary trauma from hearing the verbal and emotional abuse for years. Our brains didn't know it, but our nervous systems did: we didn't know if he was going to hurt our mom. She was too dependent on him, so she would never have divorced her. I just wish she had.
I’m your situation I don’t disagree but I wonder if you would’ve been hurt by then splitting up as well especially since you didn’t realize (as most children wouldn’t) the trauma you were faced with
Personally I do not blame my parents for my life. I thank them for giving me life and an opportunity to be well fed, exposed to an education and other things. All choices thereafter were mine. I refuse to be a victim . Was their relationship perfect? Nope! Most human relationships are not and by that I mean even on the playground,at work,on a flight. That's how life is..Stop blaming your Mum. Respect her and understand that she had choices and made the choice that was best for her and her family at that time.
Too many victims these days, it's so tiring.
@jenniferngure1136 where did she blame her mother or father? Look at her comment closely, she's simply saying that her parents' poor relationship was difficult for her and her brother to endure. That's not blaming anyone, it's merely acknowledging that people's sins can be detrimental to others
I totally understand that ♡
If your mother was severely narcissistic, then you wouldn't be giving the same response. @@jenniferngure1136
This helped me so much in my journey I feel that I have learned how to truly forgive.
Great episode. Love June’s playing and singing at the end!!
Thank you so much for addressing this topic. I am so glad to see that Cristian people are finally admitting and talking about this. I don’t normally care for your interviews topics. But this one is important and I appreciate it.
Grateful for her story. I will store this video for future use. I have struggled with resentment and unforgiveness since I've been an adult, even though i pray , read up on the subject, etc. There's been abuse and neglect from my parents, and then my siblings have been very harsh and hateful people. And the part that is really hard to deal with, is how do you forgive someone that keeps doing the same thing to you? I'm not in physical danger, so i don't think i need boundaries, like i can not be around you..... But dealing with a sister who is jealous and passive aggressive is very hard, esp when i love my little nephew and nieces. Plus i think it's sad when siblings cut each other off. So i have worked through how to deal with it to some degree, but i still think about past incidences and get angry and bitter. But June gave me some new things to think about, like i should not carry the burden, but give the burden to the Lord. And honestly, i don't want the Lord to deal harshly with anyone in my family, i do want them forgiven, so i need to think like that when i remember a time they've hurt me. And agape love - what is in their best interest? It's in their best interest for them to accept God's forgiveness -- that's what it comes down to for every single person. So me holding on to resentment will not help guide them to God's forgiveness
Thanks for sharing your heart. It means a lot to me. ✝️
Beautiful!!! ❤ she reminds me of my grandmother!
Thank you so much Allie and June Love you very much in Jesus name
June is so thoughtful and wise!
Wow, I used to listen to June Hunt many years ago and I especially appreciated this difficult topic and it reminded me of a show(s) she’d done before! One thing I would like to note is Romans 12:14 Bless those who persecute you. Bless and do not curse. We listened twice to June saying the offended is to pray for them but said that some people think you are to bless them. Well, You are supposed to according to Romans 12:14. When we bless them or pray a blessing over them, it changes our attitude. It’s up to God with how he is to bless them. Not us.
I had to skip to the part of "forgiveness vs tolerance" and will listen to the rest later when I have more time/mental energy. Thank you so much! This video came at just the right time, as I have been screamed at for several days in a row by an older parents. There is zero apology/repentance. I cannot escape.
Stay strong
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Praying for you now❤. May God provide all you need
How are You doing, Yesica?
I have been abused all.of my life thanks for this 😊
Beautiful testimony of a heart restored by God. Thanks for this episode, it had a very clear explanation of what forgiveness truly is and it was very edifying to see June as an example of Christ for us, the younger generations.
Thank you, Allie and June.
Wow, this was a great one. I love this sección
My favorite episode you've done
Love her song. Kind of goes with Keith Greene's song "Make My Life a Prayer to you"
Jesus Christ died for our Sins According to the scriptures and that he was Buried and that he rose again the third day praying for everyone everyday God bless you all 🙏🙏🙌
Just today my 43 yr old daughter told me after her Dad and I divorced for above reasons which was also physical abuse as well, her math teacher in high school smarted off to her about her Dad and my divorce. She was deeply hurt. That was 30 years ago and she is just now telling me. That teacher went to church I was attending at the time. After divorce the people for most part at that church were done with us. I have forgiven my kids Dad but keep safe distance
Great episode ❤❤❤
This was beautiful, thank you!
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I divorced after 12 years of an unrepentant spouse. Verbal, emotional, mental, financial, spiritual abuse. Abusers will use whatever means necessary to abuse or neglect due to their own unresolved past traumas that they REFUSE to face. They are full of fear, and invoke fear onto those who try to love them... It took the HOLY SPIRIT to comfort me, encourage me and give me the confidence I needed to believe I am still worthwhile after a divorce... It is NOT the end of the world, but a new beginning for those searching for freedom from abuse. Protect yourself, your children, your future children by keeping yourself safe and in a place of God's glory. GOD isn't getting glorified in an abusive marriage. Satan is...
Urgent emergency Please join me in prayer for a family friend Terri is unable to walk emergency surgery to remove brain tumor she desperately need your prayers for full recovery praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you all
When anxiety was great within me your consolation brought joy to my soul praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you all
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Quick answer… yes. Any abuse is cause for divorce. In a perfect world, divorce wouldn’t exist, but I don’t believe God wants us to keep ourselves and our children in danger, physically or emotionally. It’s not being unfaithful to your vows to escape someone who’s abusing you. Emotional abuse can kill someone’s soul. That can be just as damaging as living in a physically abusive situation.
"Quick answer… yes. Any abuse is cause for divorce. In a perfect world, divorce wouldn’t exist, but I don’t believe God wants us to keep ourselves and our children in danger, physically or emotionally." NO. You are entitled to your opinion but not to call it God's. A woman or a man should DEFINITELY get out of Dodge if there is abuse but Jesus gave only one exception for divorce and thats adultery. Besides saying "any abuse" is just an open ticket for divorce for any reason. I have heard people claim they are abused for all kinds of things -even because spouse was forcing them to be fiscally responsible or was insisting the spouse curtail very close relationship with opposite sex friends.
Yes! I was verbally/emotionally abused as a child as well as physically. The physical didn’t happen as often but the verbal and emotional words and treatment destroyed me as a child. Thankfully, the Lord got me and my siblings out of that situation as well as my father who tried his best. The Lord has healed that broken side of me when He redeemed me! But I would never tell someone that they have to stay in that situation because it is damaging to one’s self. Also, that spouse is most likely not a believer so if the spouse wants a divorce after separation, you can say yes and be free from sin.
We must back up our beliefs with Scripture not just what we feel God would want.
@GoodPersonTestWebsite So women should suffer abusive marriages, though God calls husbands to protect, love, provide for, lead, and honor their wives? What if it costs them their life or sanity?
@@WCove99 I think you are underlining the issue with your comment. The bIble is VERY clear what is the only legitimate reasons for divorce. Our argumentation is not scripture. DO you have to physically stay and get beat? no and IMO you should protect God's temple your body and children but you can leave and not get a divorce. Two different issues. The good news for women who obey Jesus words is - 95+ percent of men who act like that will move on to a sexual relationship with another woman - not stay celibate - freeing the woman completely - the rest repent , God changes their life and a family is saved to glorify God for his grace. If we reason our way out of some bible verses and commands of Christ , it betrays our discipleship and we will end up doing that in other areas ( and reasons for divorce) as well.
Wonderful, wonderful. So glad you had this. Now I need to comment about what came up on your podcast as an advertisement. I'm 77 and I don't know much about podcasts, so I don't know how people can advertise on your podcast. I don't know if you have to allow it or not. June Hunt talked about what scripture says and how we must follow what God has commanded us in scripture. I am a Christian and my daily desire is to obey the Lord as faithfully as possible. So, there is an advertisement for Tucker Carlson where Tucker says that there are so many lies spewed at us ( my paraphrasing). He should know!!! I have done research on him and he is spewing LIES CONSTANTLY. June says you have to confront the evil and not just pretend that it's not there. Tucker Carlson needs to be confronted. Not to confront his lies is contrary to what the Lord commands.
Domestic violence covers the multiple types of abuse, not just physical and for those educated in abuse, you know that multiple types of abuse are experienced by the victim interchangeably not just one.
Emotional abuse is still abuse and yes it can be caused for divorce if not corrected. God hates divorce but I don’t think that He approves of emotional or physical abuse either.
Abuse is a sign that the abuser is not fit for a christian marriage (or marriage at all though the Quoran allow abuse by a muslim man), thus there isn’t really a marriage at all and we should rather speak of annulment rather than divorce
Where is that in scripture though??
By what standard?
@@TradwifeyDawn Ephesians 5:21 - 33, 6:1 - 4
@@GoodPersonTestWebsite Love is to will the good for the other person! Love isn’t Hollywood romance, uncontrolled passions & drama! A person that constantly hurt others in the family (spouse and children) is not fit for the responsibility & vocation of marriage
For child protective services in NY, it is very difficult to prove emotional abuse towards a child. I rarely see it in cases. We require a severe effect of it on a child. What is the definition for an adult then? And if the adults are able to endure this abuse, and aren't affected by it as much, their kids probably are very affected as they watch it.
Unless its adultery, divorce is a sin. You can't change Gods word.
Matthew 5:28-29...a man who sits and watches porn, has committed adultery. Porn destroys the marriage bed, and it destroys the marriage. It is almost worse than the physical because it is easier to hide and justify. I am not making a statement to justify divorce but to separate until reconciliation can happen.
Too many commercials while I’m new to this channel.
If it threatens your well being, it's probably abuse. That includes financial abuse. Emotional abuse doesn't always look like anger. It can also look like really cool, seemingly even tempered manipulative actions. Some men are trained to almost never get expressively angry, but still have LOADS of anger that they channel into addictions (even socially acceptable addictions like food, spending money or porn). They refuse to grow up and take responsibility and behave like a husband or patriarch. An adult woman cannot be taken care of by a boy even if he's in a man's body.
Hope this video gives real solutions for terrible men who give their wives such a hard time. The Church does an awful job at REALLY addressing abuse, or if you aren't going to call it emotional abuse, men being complete a**holes to their wives.
God hates divorce and the Bible is very clear on obedience to the husband, this lady is wrong. Women are called to witness to the ungodly husband with their conduct. This lady’s take is totally unbiblical!
@@OlgaSmirnova1God never says we should accept abuse. It sounds like this might be your situation and you’re fearful of leaving. God understands. In a perfect world, marriage would be a beautiful expression of Christ and the church. Unfortunately we aren’t in a perfect world. If you’re being abused, you need to remove yourself (and your children if this is the case) from that situation. It’s not okay to just take it. God doesn’t want that for you.
@@OlgaSmirnova1Because Jesus said women must stay in marriages that could kill or psychologically damage them? Where?
@@desertrose0601I am a widow and God blessed me with a meek, gentle servant of Christ a a husband
@@WCove99dear feminist, would you show me where it says unless, they are abusive?
Ephesians 5
22 Wives, obey your husbands as you obey the Lord.
23 The husband is the head of the wife, just as Christ is the head of the church people. The church is his body and he saved it.
24 Wives should obey their husbands in everything, just as the church people obey Christ.
Love your show Ali but I find all the commercials really distracting.
I’m one 😢 for 35 years
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What is emotional abuse? The term is so vague. I’ve seen this used as a reason for divorce and when I asked one of the partners of the couple what was going on that gave them cause for divorce it was things like ‘he didn’t care about me’ ‘he didn’t take me on dates’ It doesn’t make sense that you could biblically divorce someone just because you didn’t care for the way they respond to you. Verbal, physical, and sexual abuse makes sense. You can say this person cursed me, raped me, took all my money so I couldn’t buy food etc. but what do you say for emotional abuse? He made me feel bad? Emotions are just responses to our environment and relationships so it seems emotional abuse is a misnomer.
Yup. Subjective and vague!
I'm sorry the person you asked didn't have a real answer for you, but I can tell you that yes, emotional abuse absolutely is a thing. It often involves gaslighting and manipulative, controlling behaviors. Often goes hand in hand with verbal abuse but is not identical to it. Has a lot to do with control and eroding a person's identity. Yeah. It's a thing.
It can look like threatening a person for spending time with their family, repeatedly sending them verbally abusive messages, threatening to hurt yourself if they ever leave you, telling them they are responsible for your emotional well-being, convincing them that they have to do exactly what you say or your life will somehow be ruined, berating them harshly for hours over a simple mistake, constantly accusing them of something that they can prove they didn't do, ignoring them for hours or days as a punishment, keeping a person always guessing about what will upset you so that they are always walking on eggshells, threatening to take their children away every time they don't do what you want, etc.
Sure there are people who misuse the term. That doesn't mean that it's not real.
Well lucky you, you haven't experienced the hell that is real emotional abuse. People who have been victimized don't need ignorant people minimizing their pain.
Emotional abuse is so wide ranging, you can't even begin to explain it because it also involves other types of abuse. How about a husband who uses porn and then refuses to have sex with his wife? Who criticizes how her body feels and says it's not good enough, so he has to resort to other things. Would you like to live through that and then get condemned by other Christians for divorcing? Or have a spouse who just decides to completely ignore you and not speak to you at all, but then at work he's all friendly with everybody and they think he's a great guy? Or he refuses to give you any affection at all, but will only show affection to your kids in front of your face and random people he barely knows yet won't touch you?
The truth is if a believer is going to divorce over "emotional abuse" it's over seriously destructive, long-term patterns of behavior by an unrepentant person they more than likely begged for years to treat them right and it isn't going to be over something stupid like not going on enough dates.
Emotional abuse, is in my personal example, my husband screaming in my face to intimidate me. Telling me I’m stupid, worthless, useless and unimportant. He will take away love and affection to punish me, even when I’ve done nothing wrong. Love is not transactional and yet it is to someone who thinks this way. He’s deserted me when I needed him. Refused to get me medical help when I couldn’t do it for myself. It looks like an extremely arrogant, selfish and hostile person who uses you as their emotional punching bag. They take every problem out on you. They put you the lowest on their priority list and make you beg for a simple hug. They will choose ANYONE over you. They tear you down instead of lift you up, and all the while make you think you deserve the mistreatment. You question your sanity. You feel isolated and stuck and nobody around you can ever agree on what you should do. People minimize it but they don’t have to live it. Have your husband back you into a corner and scream in your face that he hates you, he doesn’t ever want to see you again and then two days later… he’s fine. It’s a cycle that continues on and off forever. Unless that person gets saved by God.
Off topic but June looks like she could be related to you Allie I think it’s the eyes and face shape but anywho wonderful interview ❤
Forgiveness doesn't mean relationship.
15:24 note that there is a big muslim population in Russia/former soviet union, and that has probably impacted the general culture. Quoran 3:34 advice and recommend violence against the wife in order to control her! Marriage in islam is a contract between the bride’s father and the bridegroom, thus a totally different basis than the christian marriage. Glad to hear that violence isn’t recommended in the Bible at all!
The way she talked about a pedophile was literally my story and the way I also forgave and gave him away to God …sad world out here
Of course it’s real. And yes any form abuse it cause for divorce.
I think the problem with labeling so many problems experienced within marriage as “emotional abuse” is that we psychologize the problems which pigeonholes them into this box of intractability, instead of approaching the problems from a Christ-centered standpoint which would involve prayer, marriage counseling, getting the family involved and also the church community involved. Women rely on support systems more than men so holding these men accountable with the guidance of other strong men is crucial.
Things such as the husband not allowing the wife to go somewhere by herself or restricting her ability to do certain things seems like a physical threat in my opinion, not an emotional one. He is literally forcing his presence upon her and restraining her with the threat of physical retaliation, even if it’s “mild” such as taking her car keys or something similar.
The biggest issue for me is when children are involved, divorce is incalculably devastating. Our ancestors were stronger than the people we are today it seems. They stayed together through plenty of emotional trauma!
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God says he hates divorce! If it's sexual and domestic abuse than you should absolutely get law enforcement involved and separate (not divorce) for your own safety till death do you part.
If you do file for divorce than you ought not to get married to another man again because your "ex husband" is still alive.
Biblically speaking your only aloud to get divorce and marry another man when infidelity is involved because that's a breaking of the covenant.
Emotional & psychological abuse is often much more constant and can be more cruel than physical abuse. “From such people turn away” is literally in the Bible, after it lists the traits of an abusive person. What the Bible does not say is “unless it’s your spouse” or “unless it’s your family member”. Abuse is abuse, and a loving God is not an abuse enabler.
I see a lot of twisting the scripture happening in the comment section.
Okay, I know these episodes are prerecorded, but in the future could you consider having a sort of filter for the microphones? Constantly hearing the saliva in the mouth of a guest is really distracting and hard to listen to at times, though I love listening to what this woman has to say. It’s just a suggestion. I’m sure I’m not the only person slightly bothered by this.
Did Ms Hunt marry and have children?
H.L. Hunt (June's Pops) was a very wicked man. I truly hope The Lord changed his heart and he repented. Interesting how the Hunt family (owners of the KC Chiefs) never mentions him publically.
The commercials are SO ANNOYING.
EMOTIONAL ABUSE IS PRODUCED BY SIN AND THE INFLUENCE OF HELL OVER A PERSON. When a person is dominated by its sinful nature or is highly influenced or controlled by hell, SIN AND EVIL determines its actions and decisions. Self-control is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.
"The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." (Galatians 5:22-23 NIV)
The world seeks and uses human strategies and solutions to behaviors that are provoked by SIN. That is why they are never overcomed.
"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. "(Galatians 5:19-21 NIV)
SIN CANNOT BE OVERCOMED WITH A PSYCHOLOGIST OR PSYQUIATRIST CONSULTATION. ONLY BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS THROUGH REPENTANCE FROM OUR SINS AND RECONCILIATION WITH GOD THROUGH JESUS.
Whoever conceals their sins does not prosper, but the one who confesses and renounces them finds mercy. (Proverbs 28:13 NIV)
No abuse is cause for divorce. If you're going with what the scripture says. I know not a popular opinion but it's what the Bible says.
Jesus made it clear divorce is purely condoned in God's eyes for the result of unfaithfulness.
I didn't say stay in your home. You can and prob should leave the abuse. Of course. But u don't divorce, u separate and pray constantly for them and hope one day to Reconciliate and they find the truth to be set free.
Your marriage can be the biggest mission field!!
This is what people don't understand....... It doesn't say you have to stay and take the abuse.....but it doesn't actually give you the grounds for divorce. Unpopular opinion I know.... But in my opinion women in particular are too quick to jump to divorce these days just because they are not "happy ". 🤦🏼♀️
Jesus did not pay for any sins of people who go to He'll. God is Just and they are guilty.
I John 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
@@johnsmit5999That doesn’t mean “the whole world” means every person who exists. His Word does not return void and His sacrifice wasn’t a failure. If He died for everyone then why do people go to Hell?
@@kymarie20Because they refuse His offer of forgiveness.
@@kymarie20 They fail to repent and receive Christ for their justification.
Hmmm, not quite sure about this one. Though she says that emotional abuse is grounds for divorce, she fails to do 2 major things. First, she fails to define emotional abuse. (In a world that is filled with woman's rights and easy offense, this is dangerous water.) Secondly, she never addresses any passage in God's word on divorce. She addressed passages on anger and violence, but not divorce. Hmmm, I think that would be needed to see what God says about divorce and the grounds for divorce before we do something this detrimental to the holy (union of husband and wife and promote divorce for situations that God may not deem acceptable. This is huge. I would be very wary of her advice. Of course, people in abusive marriages should get help (family, friends, police, separation, etc) and there are some very terrible marriage situations. But let us stay true to God's word. For further reference see Matt. 19. (Side note: like June's mom, I would guess that a lot of abusive marriages also have adultery (the only scripture given reason for divorce.) But when this kind of advice is given without being argued from passages on divorce, this isn't wise or biblical.
Is emotional abuse cause for divorce? According to this podcast it is but that's not biblical though 🤔.
My problem with this episode is that women are going to watch this thinking to themselves as long as I feel emotionally abused, according to scripture ( because this is a Christian podcast ) their justified in divorcing their husbands🤦🏿♂️.
For example: If their husband is verbally abusive or stop caring them financially and stop telling her that he loves her and says that her sister cooking is better 😂 etc. because these things also fall under "emotional abuse".
This old woman was basically using tactics that the left uses when comes to abortion and gender when they say but "what about the 2% who got pregnant from being graped" and "what about the 2% of intersex population" to justify abortion and that there no such thing as gender🤦🏿♂️.
Ladies don't listen to Allie on this one ( i assume she agrees with elderly woman seeing she didn't make a disclaimer of sorts) even though she's usually right on a lot of stuff. I'm actually disappointed giving how smart Allie is😩.
Ladies be sure to read the Bible before quickly agreeing 🙏🏿
When I look in the comments section I am rather disturbed by the fact that the Christian women here seem to be totally out of touch with the fact that the behaviors described as emotional abuse are absolutely by no means less characteristic of wives than of husbands. In fact feminism is inciting wives to treat their husbands abusively. I do not think these female commentators are ready to see women be divorced by their husbands on the massive scale that would take place if the things they are expressing here were made into principles to be implemented.
I don't believe that I can recommend Allie Beth to others anymore until she repents and begins to uphold scripture's teaching on marriage. I fear that since she got angry at the Red Pill crowd she has begun to go in the wrong direction.
Is emotional abuse grounds for divorce? No. Sarah abused Hagai, and she, with Ishmael, mocked her and Isaac.
God doesn't approve of either side.
If divorce occurs and neither side commits adultery, then they should seek reconciliation.
@@acfatemi flesh causes problems eh
Forgiveness does not mean getting back in line for more abuse. Do not idolize the institution of marriage above the well being of a child of God.
Should a woman stay in a dangerous home and model to her children that is how she should be treated?
@fishtail1129 is true 👍. If they can't change, then divorce
This is Phariseeism.
Its interesting that you picked that story, because God told Abraham to go along with Sarah in sending Hagar and Ishmael away, which we could in fact count as a "divorce". Though as you said, God cared for all of them and also promised to make Ishmael a great nation. But in this case, this mother and son leaving was the right thing to do. I could see emotional abuse being abused as a reason. But in other cases, it could be needed. We have to be led by the Spirit....
Yes.