As someone with rather limited knowledge of London’s railways, I expected Euston to be on the list, since it’s where the trains to Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Glasgow etc. depart from. But I guess the suburbs and surrounding towns aren’t very big that direction
Euston would have definitely made sense. Milton Keynes, Birmingham, etc, but I think the connections Liverpool street and Paddington have especially because of the Elizabeth Line put them in a league of their own. To be honest, I have no idea how Waterloo is consistently so high as the only direction it serves is the south west
@@DirkDastardlymy understanding is that the South London rail termini get their passenger numbers bolstered by the extensive network of commuter lines south of the river (due to the relative lack of tube stations in that same area)- beyond that you have commuting from further afield- with Waterloo getting passengers from the large towns along the Solent and the Dorset coast (Bournemouth, Poole, Southampton, Portsmouth), whereas the more extensive mainlines north of London have diminishing returns for commuter traffic the further north you go, with the lower volumes of intercity traffic not really providing the number of passengers to make up the difference
@@DirkDastardly Pretty sure Waterloo is so high due to the high levels of Commuting. It serves a LOT of desirable places to live and commute into London from.
Two points to think about: What would Liverpool Street be like now if Stratford had not been developed to take a lot of the load that you used to have to go into Liverpool Street for and Imagine it if that kind of throughput had had to be handled by the Jazz services of the days of steam.
I think if Stratford hadn't been developed they would have either built an entirely new hub somewhere, or massively expanded Liverpool street itself. Yeah, I cant imagine the old services would have been able to cope with such high numbers. Would have been stressful to say the least
I remember Liverpool st when it was a Fruit market, the changes have been speedy and the population has boomed, If they didn't build a magnificent Stratford st I'd imagine they would have redeveloped Liverpool St, the real winner is Stratford it was an absolute shambles in the 80s and 90s.
@@Discobiscuitcreampiebiker Yeah, Stratford has come a really long way. I didn't really witness many changes myself because of my age and not living in London, but it's incredible to see what London has become and how much it's advanced in the last few decades alone
0:12 My prediction is 5. Stevenage train station 📉 4. Luton DART train station 🎯 3. Luton Gipsy Lane train station 🍟 2. Luton Leagrave train station 🔪 1. Luton High town train station 🍻
@@RafaquaQuetta I was referring to the nearest geographical location as just saying “luton station” may seem confusing to those who are not brushed up on bedfordshire train stations as there are numerous stations in Luton, and therefore I decided the optimal solution was to reffer to it as the Luton High town train station, due to it being right next to high town, and practically at the very end of high town road. In the same manor I reffered to the Luton Airport Parkway station as the Gipsy Lane train station despite it not being its official name, as it makes it easier to identify for those who know Lutonia locations but arent brushed up with the scientific names of the train stations. However thank you for your concern.
He mentioned Paddington's underground station, but in fact there's two. The Circle and Bakerloo share a common entrance/exit, but are on different levels like other interchanges. However, the Hammersmith and City line is a quarter of a mile away and is for all intents and purposes part of the main line station and does not share a common entrance and exit with the Circle/Bakerloo station.
@@captaintorch983 Ah ha next time you see a freight train pulled by a loco with DB Schenker written on it you are looking at something run by Deutsche Bahn. Similarly Deutsche Bahn used to own Arriva who operate Chiltern, Cross Country, Grand Central and Arriva Rail London but they sold it to a Cayman Island company RMT in October last year. Our TOCs are very largely owned by foreign companies.
I was wondering where Stratford came in on the list, in the COVID period it did top the usage list but this may have included Underground and DLR (used to be a Dinky Little Railway but nowadays the Docklands network would grace any medium sized city) passengers. Also, the pasenger numbers for Elizabeth line will include travellers who used to use the commuter services to Liverpool Street and Paddington but were switched when the new line opened.
Sorry, you're right. In my mind when I think of Liverpool Street on the tube map I just think of the giant connector blob, but always forget that it's Moorgate on the Northern Line, and it's just an internal interchange between the two
Some Thameslink Services have changed , thus North Kent , etc services go direct and although call at London Bridge run onto other stations which may be more convienent , likewise Abbey Wood's connection to Elizabeth Line might have a small change on London Bridge
Its a shame we probably won't see waterloo pass the 100 million annual entry and exits anymore... Would be helpful if you could give the annual tube statistics too rather than just monthly as its easier to compare. Excellent video regardless
Thameslink trains that use the East Coast Main Line going through St Pancras rather than King's Cross is probably the reason the former has higher numbers than the latter nowadays.
@@DirkDastardly well he retired after being station master at Yarmouth South town came out of retirement for ww1 where he was in charge of road and rail in the area and when at Liverpool Street met queen victoria and was given a tie pin by her son.
Is this to do with work from home becoming more popular. I don’t know too much of South West London but it does have some middle class neighbourhoods I think, maybe even a lot compared to other parts of London. I commute to Richmond for work but on the overground. I would assume maybe lots of professionals that use to use South West Trains work from home now. I can understand why the Elizabeth Line would shift the way people travel as well.
Definitely. The numbers (for the most part) are still not as high as pre-pandemic levels, so I think people working from home are what's responsible for that.
Birmingham New Street was the busiest outside of London at 11th place with 30.8m passengers. It is usually higher, but the Elizabeth Line contributed massively to those in London this time around
Appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately it seems that to do well on UA-cam these days you have to have as much audio or visual stimulation as possible, which is unfortunate because some people don't like it, and it's much harder to edit with that in mind. Thanks for the comment though, I'm trying to find a bit of a balance, so I will take this into consideration 👍
Randomly i actually looked this up last week to see if the covid weirdness had corrected itself. I was exoecting waterloo, maybe Bridge, or maybe maybe Stratford. I was absolutely not expecting liv street. Side note, as someone who has only ever lived in East and SE London, victoria just annoys me. It seems like its miles away from anything interesting or useful.
To be honest, I only researched this properly about two weeks ago, and was going to make a whole video about Waterloo being the biggest station. How wrong I was lol. Crazy how much the Elizabeth line effects things, according to the numbers, Tottenham court road had 30m last year from the Lizzie line alone which put it at about 7th place.
Thanks for the feedback, I'm trying to find a balance of everything because the norm now is fast paced content, but I would like to find a way to slow it down a bit because that's what I personally prefer aswell. Appreciate the comments and glad you enjoyed 😁
yeah, fast paced content fine, whatever that means. But it has to be comprehensible, surely? Or is it just fast paced that is more important? Lets have fast paced gibberish shall we?@@DirkDastardly
@@grangetowncardiff6935 Fast paced content is pretty self explanatory, and I think it's subjective to an extent, because you're the only person that has expressed an issue with it.
As someone with rather limited knowledge of London’s railways, I expected Euston to be on the list, since it’s where the trains to Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Glasgow etc. depart from. But I guess the suburbs and surrounding towns aren’t very big that direction
Euston would have definitely made sense. Milton Keynes, Birmingham, etc, but I think the connections Liverpool street and Paddington have especially because of the Elizabeth Line put them in a league of their own. To be honest, I have no idea how Waterloo is consistently so high as the only direction it serves is the south west
@@DirkDastardlymy understanding is that the South London rail termini get their passenger numbers bolstered by the extensive network of commuter lines south of the river (due to the relative lack of tube stations in that same area)- beyond that you have commuting from further afield- with Waterloo getting passengers from the large towns along the Solent and the Dorset coast (Bournemouth, Poole, Southampton, Portsmouth), whereas the more extensive mainlines north of London have diminishing returns for commuter traffic the further north you go, with the lower volumes of intercity traffic not really providing the number of passengers to make up the difference
@@MercenaryPen Ah, ok. Makes sense, thanks for the comment
@@DirkDastardly Pretty sure Waterloo is so high due to the high levels of Commuting. It serves a LOT of desirable places to live and commute into London from.
Euston isn’t out in the suburbs. It’s very much in London and just down the road from Kings Cross and St Pancras stations.
Two points to think about:
What would Liverpool Street be like now if Stratford had not been developed to take a lot of the load that you used to have to go into Liverpool Street for and
Imagine it if that kind of throughput had had to be handled by the Jazz services of the days of steam.
I think if Stratford hadn't been developed they would have either built an entirely new hub somewhere, or massively expanded Liverpool street itself.
Yeah, I cant imagine the old services would have been able to cope with such high numbers. Would have been stressful to say the least
Safer 😂
I remember Liverpool st when it was a Fruit market, the changes have been speedy and the population has boomed, If they didn't build a magnificent Stratford st I'd imagine they would have redeveloped Liverpool St, the real winner is Stratford it was an absolute shambles in the 80s and 90s.
@@Discobiscuitcreampiebiker Yeah, Stratford has come a really long way. I didn't really witness many changes myself because of my age and not living in London, but it's incredible to see what London has become and how much it's advanced in the last few decades alone
0:12 My prediction is
5. Stevenage train station 📉
4. Luton DART train station 🎯
3. Luton Gipsy Lane train station 🍟
2. Luton Leagrave train station 🔪
1. Luton High town train station 🍻
Super close!!!!!!!! Milton Keynes was actually number 1 🎉
There's no High Town station but spot on otherwise 😂
@@RafaquaQuetta I was referring to the nearest geographical location as just saying “luton station” may seem confusing to those who are not brushed up on bedfordshire train stations as there are numerous stations in Luton, and therefore I decided the optimal solution was to reffer to it as the Luton High town train station, due to it being right next to high town, and practically at the very end of high town road. In the same manor I reffered to the Luton Airport Parkway station as the Gipsy Lane train station despite it not being its official name, as it makes it easier to identify for those who know Lutonia locations but arent brushed up with the scientific names of the train stations. However thank you for your concern.
He mentioned Paddington's underground station, but in fact there's two. The Circle and Bakerloo share a common entrance/exit, but are on different levels like other interchanges. However, the Hammersmith and City line is a quarter of a mile away and is for all intents and purposes part of the main line station and does not share a common entrance and exit with the Circle/Bakerloo station.
Brilliantly educational, great production, my compliments
Thank you so much. This means a lot 😁
Waterloo still feels like a bit of a ghost town at the moment, so the numbers make sense.
I'm not really there that often. Always feels busy to me, but I was never there when it was at its peak so I wouldn't have noticed any change
The Northern Line goes to Moorgate not Liverpool street, but that is only 5 mins away so its shown as connected on the tube map
Great Video, Dirk! Clear and Informative!
Thanks a lot!
As a purist I have to submit that in the U.K. they are called railway stations. Train stations only exist in the USA😉
Lol, I'd never noticed that
Also, UK railway stations don't have too many German trains stopping there.
@@captaintorch983 Ah ha next time you see a freight train pulled by a loco with DB Schenker written on it you are looking at something run by Deutsche Bahn. Similarly Deutsche Bahn used to own Arriva who operate Chiltern, Cross Country, Grand Central and Arriva Rail London but they sold it to a Cayman Island company RMT in October last year. Our TOCs are very largely owned by foreign companies.
I was wondering where Stratford came in on the list, in the COVID period it did top the usage list but this may have included Underground and DLR (used to be a Dinky Little Railway but nowadays the Docklands network would grace any medium sized city) passengers. Also, the pasenger numbers for Elizabeth line will include travellers who used to use the commuter services to Liverpool Street and Paddington but were switched when the new line opened.
Stratford came 6th with 44.1 million entries / exits
An excellent video. However, I should point out that Liverpool Street is not served by the Northern Line 4:48
Sorry, you're right. In my mind when I think of Liverpool Street on the tube map I just think of the giant connector blob, but always forget that it's Moorgate on the Northern Line, and it's just an internal interchange between the two
Very interesting but too fast for me to take it in. Where can I read this stuff at a pace that I can cope with?
Sources are all linked in the description
Some Thameslink Services have changed , thus North Kent , etc services go direct and although call at London Bridge run onto other stations which may be more convienent , likewise Abbey Wood's connection to Elizabeth Line might have a small change on London Bridge
Its a shame we probably won't see waterloo pass the 100 million annual entry and exits anymore... Would be helpful if you could give the annual tube statistics too rather than just monthly as its easier to compare. Excellent video regardless
I honestly expected Euston, King’s Cross and St. Pancras International to be much higher up.
Same! It's always so busy there. St Pancras was 8th with 33.3m, Euston was 10th with 31.3m, and Kings Cross was 15th with 23.3m
Thameslink trains that use the East Coast Main Line going through St Pancras rather than King's Cross is probably the reason the former has higher numbers than the latter nowadays.
My great great grandfather was incharge of the royal train Liverpool Street station.
Wow, that's really cool! What year(s) would that have been?
@@DirkDastardly well he retired after being station master at Yarmouth South town came out of retirement for ww1 where he was in charge of road and rail in the area and when at Liverpool Street met queen victoria and was given a tie pin by her son.
@@sarahhall738 That's amazing 😁
Is this to do with work from home becoming more popular. I don’t know too much of South West London but it does have some middle class neighbourhoods I think, maybe even a lot compared to other parts of London. I commute to Richmond for work but on the overground. I would assume maybe lots of professionals that use to use South West Trains work from home now.
I can understand why the Elizabeth Line would shift the way people travel as well.
Definitely. The numbers (for the most part) are still not as high as pre-pandemic levels, so I think people working from home are what's responsible for that.
What about a video on those outside London?
Will definitely do this in the near future. I'd like to actually go to those ones as well to make the video a bit more interesting
Missing at Paddington from your vid is the Bakerloo Line.
Yeah I forgot to include it in the voiceover but I did put it on screen in the bottom left
Is Victoria served by thameslink? I didn’t think it was
It sort of is. Thameslink operated Sunday services from Victoria to Sevenoaks in Kent. Sorry, I should have clarified that in the video
@@DirkDastardly oh ok
I have no problem understanding things and I’m a Londoner with a knowledge of these places but it’s just too fast!
Appreciate the feedback. Definitely going to slow it down for the next one
I expected Birmingham New Street as the busiest one because while London has multiple main stations, it's Birmingham's only real main station.
Birmingham New Street was the busiest outside of London at 11th place with 30.8m passengers. It is usually higher, but the Elizabeth Line contributed massively to those in London this time around
TfL buses should be £1.50 again and flat fares on underground train of £3
Interesting info, but all the sound effects are super annoying.
Appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately it seems that to do well on UA-cam these days you have to have as much audio or visual stimulation as possible, which is unfortunate because some people don't like it, and it's much harder to edit with that in mind. Thanks for the comment though, I'm trying to find a bit of a balance, so I will take this into consideration 👍
Randomly i actually looked this up last week to see if the covid weirdness had corrected itself.
I was exoecting waterloo, maybe Bridge, or maybe maybe Stratford. I was absolutely not expecting liv street.
Side note, as someone who has only ever lived in East and SE London, victoria just annoys me. It seems like its miles away from anything interesting or useful.
To be honest, I only researched this properly about two weeks ago, and was going to make a whole video about Waterloo being the biggest station. How wrong I was lol. Crazy how much the Elizabeth line effects things, according to the numbers, Tottenham court road had 30m last year from the Lizzie line alone which put it at about 7th place.
theamslink dont go to Victoria
They offer limited services on Sundays and in the early mornings of the week I believe
You talk so fast, I had trouble understanding you. Great video though, thanks!
Thanks for the feedback, I'm trying to find a balance of everything because the norm now is fast paced content, but I would like to find a way to slow it down a bit because that's what I personally prefer aswell. Appreciate the comments and glad you enjoyed 😁
yeah, fast paced content fine, whatever that means. But it has to be comprehensible, surely? Or is it just fast paced that is more important? Lets have fast paced gibberish shall we?@@DirkDastardly
@@grangetowncardiff6935 Fast paced content is pretty self explanatory, and I think it's subjective to an extent, because you're the only person that has expressed an issue with it.
Errr, no I'm not!@@DirkDastardly
Yes, it is too fast, especially for Americans who have to process your accent as well as comprehend the actual commentary.