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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Let's check out the insanely featured Zen Q audio interface from Antelope Audio!
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Time Stamps:
0:00 - Start
0:14 - Intro
0:48 - Disclosure
0:59 - Overview
2:06 - The Control Panel Software
5:51 - The Converters
6:22 - Tracking & ReAmp Demo
13:59 - The Effects
14:27 - Wrap Up
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Thanks for Antelope for sending the Zen Q! the AFX2DAW is now out and available for Zen Q USB!
Amazing interface, really well made video to demonstrate it in real time. I really appreciate how you went through the process instead of just saying “oh yeah you can reamp too, anyway-“ it makes s huge difference!
However, if anyone is interested in this, I would highly recommend the Arturia AudioFuse v2 instead. MIDI, USB hub, external effects inserts, smaller and cheaper with pretty much all the same features as this.
Oh yes i have the arturia. Such a power house for such a small device. Centre of my set up currently
I have used antelope for some years. And they were bumpy years to say the least. I don't use mine anymore, I went back to my Apollo that I wanted to get away from, hence why I bought one years ago. It's not that it's horrible, it's very good. The main issue is the software. I tried it again about 8 months ago and it was better, than the issues started again. I would close it out and could never get it to reopen, it would crash once in awhile, and sometimes it would just say the interface was not connected. I would have to restart my computer and it work again for a good while but then ultimately do it again. They do updates on firmware on regular basis. But it just was not working out for me. Many people love the interface and have no issues. Unfortunately for me it was not the case. I will get it back out once in awhile to update it try it out, and some things seem better and some bugs are still their, at least for me they are.
That's the type of bugs you expect M-Audio interface to have. That's unacceptable.
Same.
Being on a PC, I did give UA a shot. And while it sounded great, it did not play well with Windows. I ended up going with the Zen Go, and couldn’t be happier with it. No issues whatsoever. I may have to upgrade to the Q, since I want to start getting into reamping, as the Go doesn’t have enough outputs. It does of SPDIF, but I haven’t found any decent converters for a price that would justify not just upgrading the interface itself.
Which version of Windows. WIN10 was perfect. MoBo dependent etc too though.
I bought one today, I'm really excited ! Thanks for the review dude!
Antelope has always made good converters, but they have struggled mightily on QC as well as drivers. Would be more interested in a long term review to see how this thing holds up for you over time :).
I use all antelope stuff and the qc and customer service has been amazing. Like amazing. I heard the horror stories and got freaked out but they were so on point
@@dylanrush183 that is good to hear. I know it's common to only hear about the bad stuff. But it was so bad that a major distributor dropped them.
I tried a discrete 4 (non synergy core) and it sounded ok, but drivers were meh, headphone outputs we're terrible and the build quality felt like a kids toy.
If they have upped their game and the zen q USB proves stable I may give it a go. It's perfect for my workflow for sure.
Yeah dude I use the Orion 32 and Orion synergy core so I can’t really speak on any of the other products but the ones I have are wicked. My stuff upgraded drastically when I switched from UAD. And I’ve heard all the terrible things which had me scared but I had some friends that loved their stuff and I just kind of took the leap of faith. Awesome to be able to have a discussion about stuff without people getting crazy. Can tell you’re a level headed good dude
@@dylanrush183 Just switched to Antelope from UA. Never hated a purchase more than my buggy and now burned out Apollo Twin.
Antelope Audio interface owner here: once it works, they’re solid and great.
AFXs have never blown me away, don’t use them that often in a DIY home studio setting. In studio for live takes, I could see them working much better, and I think that is sort of the application they were going for.
Drivers and the software have always been tricky and “meh” at best. Solid hardware, fast and reliable. Again, once you get all the kinks out of the way.
Definitely not Windows friendly at first, but pretty easy on Mac.
Would I buy another one? 50/50. I bought my Orion Studio 2017 specifically for the inputs and outputs. That was the config I wanted at the time. If another company made something similar at the same price point, I would definitely consider it.
I JUST ordered the thunderbolt version yesterday and it's coming in tomorrow. I'm super excited! 🤗
You may want to get the USB version given the deal going on right now for it. All plugins (90+), free Bitwig Studio ( usually $299), free Edge Solo Mic ($650 retail but I would say more like a $200 mic), and a hardcase. Keep in mind the guitar amps and cab are the TH-U Overloud which have mixed reviews. However the BAE hardware modelled items (compressor and eq) were done with feedback from BAE and are on point. Also their Verb, Neve modelled compressors and other effects may be worth the price of admission just for those.
@@danieljung2810 I took advantage of the promotion and have already gotten my email confirmation for the Edge Solo. I'm super excited about that. I wanted the Thunderbolt 3 specifically. I'm on an M1 MacBook and am not interested in taking up more ports than I need to. A friend of mine has the USB version and has to plug both USB A's in to power his unit with his 2018 MacBook Pro. Having said that I tracked a session yesterday and today for two different clients and this thing is absolutely amazing!
@@joshuabutlermusic you only need to use the two USB ports if you don't have a USB C out. I have a USB C out so just one cable for me. ;)
Didn’t they have a huge issue where customer service was non existent and the interfaces failed so badly that big retailers pulled them out of their sites due to the backlash and high volume of returns? I feel like remember seeing it on Sweetwater one day and then it just.. stopped.
Yes. I was the unfortunate owner of a Zen Tour when that happened. Sold it and moved on.
Yep, that happened. I bought into the ecosystem after that all happened - so I don't have experience with that era - and it's been good. Had a Zen Go for one year, use it literally every day.
HERE IS MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT: when they make an update, it eventually messes with the interface until you update. And they don't communicate that well. *deeply* frustrating. Kind of inexcusable. Never had it mess with a session, but c'mon, guys.
Customer service has been... okay. Not great, but clearly leaps and bounds from the tragedy it apparently used to be.
Hardware has been rock solid. Software takes a second to grok, but was honestly not that bad.
All told, it's been my best interface experience. Maybe I just got a "good one," but it's been an overall deeply positive experience.
This is exactly what happened
Yeah. I spent some time with antelope the past year and the experience has been much better. Customer service is open via chat and email. They haven't left me hanging.
Yeaaaaah. I had an Orion for a year or so a few years back. Straight up. Worst interface I have ever used. Customer service was nonexistent. Ultimately, Antelope cost me a lot of money in ruined recording sessions because of their terrible product.
9:32 that sounds pretty cool by itself!
Man, I could really play some bad riffs through this baby
I was sold by this video. Struggled with Axe-FX III as audio interface because it's monitors and headphones output wired to one knob and you can't control them separately. Bought Zen Q to fix it via SPDIF. And omg DI from this interface is so bad, with wall of noise, huge amount of distortion. I play metal, I play hi-gain stuff. I can't hear my amp sound because of noise. Support asked me to do tones of tests, I tried literally everything I could to change and after 3 months of emailing they told me - everything is OK, noise is OK, use noise gate, you use hi-gain amps, what did you expect? Well, just joked on me at the end. And maybe they would be right but on Axe-FX III there is no noise at all. More over, on Focusrite Scralett 2i2 2gen no noise at all and far better DI than Zen Q.
After 6 months of struggling I'm trying to sell this device. But who need that expensive trash especially when truth came out and a lot of users faced the same problems.
Funny that there is that noise in video I have not noticed before.
I sold the D4 and bought the UltraLite mk5. The frustration is gone.
My Motu system works great. They actually care about their software and drivers.
So many interfaces out there and they all seem to have their own following of loyal musicians...I'd love to see more comparison videos w interfacing from your point of view...and I know...there's no shortage of videos out there... everyone is different...
Hello, I’m looking into center channel extraction for my hifi system. where, if I got it right, I’d be extracting every identical element in a stereo signal and exclude L and R panned elements. Can I achieve this with the Zen in real time? Thank you
Hello . I enjoy your video . I have purchased the ZenQ Thunderbolt fro my iMac Mini M1 now 2 years ago. After a long conversation with tech support as per him Im limited to do updates. Anyway, it works at the setting I have now. Can you do a video explaining routing and how can I use the Zen Q effects with Garage Band. Im thinking in to going to Logic Pro since I see more content in using that DAW. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks again.
I have ordered a focusrite clarett+ 8pre. Any other 8 pres that fit in a one rack space that has at least one xlr available on the front that is better than the clarett+? Recording guitar, bass and drums not much for vocals though.
can i record 4 track at once ,and can i use my apple keyboard as a volume knot
Is this the same as the zen go that came out a couple of years ago? The drivers were trash. Never could get the machine to work. Sent it back to antelope like 3 or 4 times. Ended up getting and Apollo x4 instead. Windows User.
I spit my Sprite out when I saw the price... this thing better be outstanding.
Just got the Zen q. The microphone comes through the left speakers, even when the mixer volume is all the way down and/ or muted. How can I get the microphone mono in the center and responding to the channel mixer? Thanks!
Hallo help me please my pc cannot recognize audio card zen q synergy core i have win 11 end thunderboltex 4 tnx
I'd still go with the UAD Apollo Twin Duo for that price.
Yeah, was looking at UAD and Antelope about a year ago. Wound up going with a Zen Go, as UAD has a rubbish reputation on Windows.
Would I have been happier with an Apollo? I don't know: it definitely has better guitar plugins. But I've been super happy with my unit.
Out of curiosity & Wanderlust, do you use the Apollo on Windows? What's your experience with that been like?
@@JonathanKillstring I got rid of my apollo because of how horrible it is on windows, got a zengo and it worked great out the box, no issues so far on windows 10
Agreed, I sold and Apollo a few months back and got one of these to replace it with last week. It’s been a buggy disaster
@@JonathanKillstring Windows? Recording pro audio? Nah.
I run a 2012 MacBook Pro with a gen1 Apollo Twin. It’s bulletproof.
@@taylorlimbeck6854 Im Looking To Get The Zen Q.. But, Before I Buy.. What's So Buggy About The Zen Q...Thx Man...Rob..
Hello, thanks for the review!
Can you please tell me if the headphone outputs have enough power?
In one of the reviews, they drew attention to the fact that low-impedance headphones sound worse than high-impedance ones!
Have you personally checked...?
Thanks !!!
Por qué tengo problemas de modulación cuando conecto a las entradas de mic un procesador externo de micrófonos?? Es que acaso este interfaz no necesita de procesadores externos??
Thanks for this video. Very helpful to understand some basic principals of routing. Need more videos like this though. I have ZenQ Thunder for over 1 year now. So much to it. Im using it with my iMac Mini m1 and Garage band. My question is , I cant get garage band to record the effects of ZenQ. Can you make a short video about this topic? ~Or is there a channel that you know that explains this better? Please give me some advice. thanks again.
Thanks. Could i use the zen q standalone?
Iean Without a computer. How can i give power for the interface?
Thanks
Went for the Focusrite Clarrett + cause of the issues!
I tried a Zen Go. Loved the sound but the software was so buggy that it would crash my M1 Mac Mini. Never could get AFX2DAW to work with Logic either. Sent it back to MF and got a Presonus unit instead. Hope your experience is better.
Question: Can one of the OUTPUT of this unit be plugged directly into a valve amplifier/cab like the IK Multimedia Axe IO can do?
Still no support for Monterey.
Great video thanks
Well, no possibilities currently. They were too cheap to send a T3 cable. Looking forward to seeing how it performs.
Hey, what brand are your wall sound panels?
FLUUUUUUFFF!!! I need guidance. I see you have done alot of Lace pick up reviews years ago. I've watched all of them I can find. Need your opinion. Do the Alumitones hum and hiss alot with high gain .... say channel three on a recto? People are saying they are dead quite even when coil split. That shit can't be true. I trust your opinion. What say you before I pull the trigger on this.
Wow nice
Why would anyone buy a product from a company that doesn't release the specifications of their devices?
Cool! 👍🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
Everyone needs to put a solid PAUSE on buying anything Antelope right now. Marcel James (former 14 year engineer from Antelope Audio) is laying down the ugly hammer on all of the hidden software and hardware problems Antelope has been having over the years AND all of the negative social media comments they have been deleting. Marcel has one video out on UA-cam already. I have the Discrete 8 Synergy Core and for the last two years had multiple software issues and the LED panel text is now pixelated with dark orange and white text.
OK, thats the 1000$ audio interface, is there a cheap audio interface for those less able to just blow a grand. (not necessarily something that will do all that but a good cheap inreface so you can record your own amps on pc through usb?)
there is the Zen Go for 550$
Get the MOTU Ultralight Mk5 if you can find it. Thing is sold out everywhere. The Zen series is a different beast because it does the effects/cabs/amps/compressor/eq etc. within the unit itself so your computers processor isn't being used. This makes it great for tracking and low latency, but also more expensive. But if you're just recording directly from you amp and micing your amp I'd get the MOTU. Though, the Zen Q bundle right now is pretty damn amazing, especially if you don't have a DAW. They're giving you Bitwig Studio, a mic, case and ALL the effects for free. If you do the math on that the interface is basically free.
@@danieljung2810 ok, you got halfway to cheap..lmao...not bad though
@@timothymartin2137 if you want to spend around $250, then MOTU M4 or SSL 2! I'd like to reiterate though, the Zen Q bundle is an insane deal till the end of April if you have the money.
Although the sound is really great, I wouldn't recommend this If to anyone. Too many routing issues and recording sessions being interrupted to fix some software issue.
Zen Q...
Your welcome.
The RME Babyface Pro is far superior to this interface! It’s like comparing an entry level Focusrite to Prism converters! Literally night and day difference!
Enjoy your USB 2.0 and 90s job wheel
@@RiffsAndBeards USB 2.0 is more than adequate for audio applications considering the channel count of the two units. The clock on the RME is better, the pre amps are better and the drivers on Windows are better. It’s just better! By a vast margin!
@@RiffsAndBeards RME steady clock actually holds up Prism with zero artefacts conversion! If you are on windows platform then RME is really you only option under £1000 if you want the absolute best interface. Total mix software can be a bit counterintuitive I’ll admit but the hardware is untouchable at the price. A\B the Babyface against the Zen! You’ll hear it! If you want all the DSP plugins then I suppose the Zen offers value for money in that regard but if you want absolute zero latency, pristine preamps and a rock solid clock then the RME absolutely blows it out of the water.
@@RiffsAndBeards Thanks for posting this. Thought I was missing out. USB 3 couldn't keep my Apollo connected to Windows. Looking forward to using the Go Z once my disappointingly not included T3 cable comes in.
I don't need a audio interface because luckily my built-in one on my SPARK AMP is enough for the amount of usage that I need and my DAW has a vertuial plug-in.
It's hilarious how you danced around not calling their Modern amp and cab Rectifiers. Clearly they asked you to do that.
Their cabs and amps are from TH-U Overloud and have mixed reviews, the modern being a Mesa Boogie. It's their other effects, BAE approved compressors/eq, Verb, etc. are pretty amazing.
Sadly and luckily the only affordable DSP interface ala UAD for Windows.
The Apollo Twin USB version is so trashy.
The only thing I dislike about Antelope is that the AFX2DAW plugin should be free always. Not just as a deal that is going on right now.
And certainly not with a high price they are asking for regularly.
Have you seen trogly's $99,000 Ibanez on Reverb
I love Trogly. I'll have to check that out.
Ought to be for $1,000 - geez
Any UA will smoke it
that did not sound good at all lol NOPE
Better converter than UAD. UAD has better drivers. Catch 22
The answer is no! RME Babyface Pro is better. We sent this back! Windows drivers bad, pre amps not all that and conversion isn’t very good (Apollo is better and their DSP if you want that). Don’t waste your money!
I bought this interface based on this video. It’s probably the worst interface I have ever owned. It doesn’t work reliably, the driver and accompanying software is awful. Half of the dsp based effects don’t actually pass a signal. The worst part is the nasty ground loop that can’t be resolved no matter what I do. I’ve rearrange my entire studio to troubleshoot this ground loop and I have given up. The headphone outputs are very weak too. If you’re running any headphones with a higher impedance than 32 ohms they aren’t usable for tracking. Antelope tech support more or less told me good luck. This interface and the promos they run with it are very appealing. They have great i/o and seem too good to be true because they are. The Apollo interfaces are light years better for the money if you want something that actually works. It’s a shame that this company can’t get their software right I was really looking forward to using this.
I still use mine all the time and have experienced none of those things. If you think any hardware company is flawless you are wrong. ALSO contact support, dawg thats what they are for.
@@RiffsAndBeards I did contact support. They pretty much told me to stop using logic and buy a PC. Rolled me back to a previous driver and said the ground loop issue wasn’t their problem. The bottom line is that they don’t care to actually have things work well, only good enough.