Very true, it becomes almost a different game for the viewer. But maybe that applies to all classic games where the balance is horrible and everyone is already familiar with the top tiers and busted plays. Like all classic SFs, Marvels, KOFs, and CvS2, etc... they all are turn much better to watch if we exclude top tiers and some specific cursed plays like the juggle infinite of SFA3, the dash infinite of KOF98, etc.
Justin Wong tossed up his lineup constantly as he went round after round, not letting his opponent learn his technique as he fought the same lineup over and over, picking his opponent apart. Respect, Justin. Respect.
I saw Mugai upload these matches on his channel a while ago, but I wanted to wait for your upload as I know you would give your breakdown commentary, which is always worth the wait!
1:29 That is why he has launcher assist, with running slash assist(Hyakuretsutou) the thc is super running slashes(Hyper Hyakuretsutou) and projectile THC is Cho-Shuriken
Bro I only started playing fighting games seriously over the past 6 months or so so I'm not a real contender at any and I've still got a lot to learn, but I'm getting pretty decent and I play a lot, pretty much every day (mostly 3rd Strike, GGAC and some Alpha 2/3), but I still can only just barely understand what is going on during any high level match of MVC2. Game is probably the most chaotic and speedy competitive fighter I've ever seen. Blows me away how you can play and watch these matches and understand exactly what is going on during every frame like you do.
Also remember the game came on the year 2000 and Justin plays it seriously since release and he is a very talented player too. A lot has been studied and understood about the game by the high level players over the 2000s.
The back & forth of these matches were insane. Neither one of you guys could get an edge over the other. Rumor has it in an alternate universe the the ongoing score is 77,812-77,812 in a first to 77,813 set
I played an absolute ton of this game on the Dreamcast... and I saw some crazy stuff get pulled off, but most of it was accidental. When I watch these videos... it is daunting to think that everything I'm watching was not only intentional... its all premeditated, calculated and like 7 moves ahead like a chess player.
First thing that came to mind hearing SPD's called "screw" in Japan is a screwdriver; makes sense when you think about it Low-tier MvC2 is coincidentally god-tier IMO
I have been watching your content, along with a few others on youtube for some time now. I finally took the step and started playing and trying to learn, thanks in no small part to your content. Thanks very much dude, loving the games so far, super hype in a way no other games can really match.
At this point of fgc history, with retro still going pretty strong, it would be nice if top players promoted more "no top tier" matches exactly to put their skill and knowledge to the test and on display. And that would even advertise these games more, because they are all known for bad balance and top tier whoring. And this match in the video is precisely a good example: the Zangief focused low tier team being polished and optimized to high level competition, is highlighting MvC2 competition in a way that regular (top tier) matches are hardly doing lately.
worth it...mid/low tiers just make this game special such a dope video the fact that you gave him different taste was pure respect....dope vide...many likes.
Hey Justin, Jill can OTG with cr. LK>launcher after her cr. HK (slide). You can get a little extra and if you're good at holding Charging STAR, you can let that rip in the air into super for better than average damage.
Remember Morrigan's got an SPD too! I'd like to see you try and use it more I bet you could get some nasty mixups on people with it. There were definitely a couple punish opportunities in this video you could use it too.
sicker than any trick :// tht @Jwahzlenicle may Matokanyz .. *pfft* let alone he doesnt even Makoto :// Iyq q”muhn 0:0 #jk #gGsGodspeedConceiVeThyVictoli
By the way, in a couple of spots where you say that you missed a grab on silver samurai the commentator is saying that you can't throw him in those spots. Not entirely sure why (armor?) but something to look into
@@jwonggg oh yeah I can see what you mean. Maybe gotta give it a bit of time? I don't think any of those other uploads are analysis or commentary and of course your analysis is higher value as well. Well, if you do eventually decide to do some analysis of this year's MvC2 FK event I'll be glad to watch it. And hopefully I can catch it live.
Uh-oh...that's Cheddah 'Gief!! Usually the worst time to mess with 'Gief is if he's rockin' the cheddah color!! 🤣🤣
GIMME BACK MY SON
CHEDDA!!!!!
Those were white when he put them on!
MuGief?? 😳🫢
I MISS MIKE SAYING CHEDDAH GIEF!
Mid and low tier Marvel 2 is so fucking hype! I love watching it.
Very true, it becomes almost a different game for the viewer. But maybe that applies to all classic games where the balance is horrible and everyone is already familiar with the top tiers and busted plays. Like all classic SFs, Marvels, KOFs, and CvS2, etc... they all are turn much better to watch if we exclude top tiers and some specific cursed plays like the juggle infinite of SFA3, the dash infinite of KOF98, etc.
@@carlosaugusto9821 True. Mid to low tier of all the classic games is hype.
It feels good to watch gameplay that doesn't revolve around spamming sentinel punches, cable projectiles or storm and magneto.
Justin Wong tossed up his lineup constantly as he went round after round, not letting his opponent learn his technique as he fought the same lineup over and over, picking his opponent apart. Respect, Justin. Respect.
I saw Mugai upload these matches on his channel a while ago, but I wanted to wait for your upload as I know you would give your breakdown commentary, which is always worth the wait!
27:00 I lost it at the "Let's go, Mugai, let's go!"; totally unexpected .. LOL. gg'z, though, that was an awesome set. 👍
Even Mugai was like holy fuck that worked lmfaooooooo
There is a reason Justin is the goat with MVC2 because he can make even low tier teams look like top-tier unreal playing Justin
Secret anti silver samurai tech- his super ninja stars? Jump and get hit... 1 tick of damage and it throws you super jump hight
Blocking that super is mega painful, unless you are ice man.
1:29 That is why he has launcher assist, with running slash assist(Hyakuretsutou) the thc is super running slashes(Hyper Hyakuretsutou) and projectile THC is Cho-Shuriken
Bro I only started playing fighting games seriously over the past 6 months or so so I'm not a real contender at any and I've still got a lot to learn, but I'm getting pretty decent and I play a lot, pretty much every day (mostly 3rd Strike, GGAC and some Alpha 2/3), but I still can only just barely understand what is going on during any high level match of MVC2. Game is probably the most chaotic and speedy competitive fighter I've ever seen. Blows me away how you can play and watch these matches and understand exactly what is going on during every frame like you do.
Also remember the game came on the year 2000 and Justin plays it seriously since release and he is a very talented player too. A lot has been studied and understood about the game by the high level players over the 2000s.
i just love these mvc2 videos and these classic fighting games 🔥❤️
That’s because these “classics” are the best fighting games of all time
The back & forth of these matches were insane. Neither one of you guys could get an edge over the other.
Rumor has it in an alternate universe the the ongoing score is 77,812-77,812 in a first to 77,813 set
I was waiting for this!!!! thank you for the video!!
That was a dope set, high-level MVC2 is crazy
I played an absolute ton of this game on the Dreamcast... and I saw some crazy stuff get pulled off, but most of it was accidental.
When I watch these videos... it is daunting to think that everything I'm watching was not only intentional... its all premeditated, calculated and like 7 moves ahead like a chess player.
Justin: Relentlessly mashes assist...
"Yo why my Ken bleedin'?"
🤣
First thing that came to mind hearing SPD's called "screw" in Japan is a screwdriver; makes sense when you think about it
Low-tier MvC2 is coincidentally god-tier IMO
I have been watching your content, along with a few others on youtube for some time now. I finally took the step and started playing and trying to learn, thanks in no small part to your content. Thanks very much dude, loving the games so far, super hype in a way no other games can really match.
Its is refreshing seeing Good Players with Non-Top Tier Teams, hope for some Project Justice Matches
At this point of fgc history, with retro still going pretty strong, it would be nice if top players promoted more "no top tier" matches exactly to put their skill and knowledge to the test and on display.
And that would even advertise these games more, because they are all known for bad balance and top tier whoring. And this match in the video is precisely a good example: the Zangief focused low tier team being polished and optimized to high level competition, is highlighting MvC2 competition in a way that regular (top tier) matches are hardly doing lately.
2:46 That was raw
Like how Marvel is super nostalgic yet still amazing to watch
I didn't know Silver Samurai's buffs could stack.
Bless us with more MvC2 content J!
Thank you for blessing us with this best of 7 series MvC2. GGS+
Was such a fantastic performance from you both, really close.
Always happy to see some MvC2
Been waiting weeks for this video! Thanks JW
the final game is the crazy MVC2 game i've ever seen
you can’t grab silver samurai while he’s crouching
14:49
Justin - "Don't touch her!"
Me - immediately remembers the London train station piano incident with the Chinese 'tourists'
Nice to see JW enjoying some low/mids
Imagine what this guy is capable of with Samurai in Fire Mode.
Justin out here with multiple teams, but Mugai wasn't fazed
ive been waiting for this video......going to get my popcorn ready and a drink
worth it...mid/low tiers just make this game special such a dope video the fact that you gave him different taste was pure respect....dope vide...many likes.
Justin knows how to have fun.
Hey Justin, Jill can OTG with cr. LK>launcher after her cr. HK (slide). You can get a little extra and if you're good at holding Charging STAR, you can let that rip in the air into super for better than average damage.
This is one of the greatest sets I ever seen u play Jay amazing set ups bro keep up great work bro thanks for sharing this video with us 🙏
this was some dope matches.. they got mad heat out there in J
Me trying to remember how many quarters I spent or wanted to spend on this game. Such a great game!
Some of the most insane marvel of the year.
Bro I see you with the Magus old team! Love it!!
Remember Morrigan's got an SPD too! I'd like to see you try and use it more I bet you could get some nasty mixups on people with it. There were definitely a couple punish opportunities in this video you could use it too.
10:52 "[something something you cant grab that] does Justin not know? No way"
Justin...we need to update that tier list for 2024 ASAP Bro silver samurai is now high tier or something
No one can convince me Marvel 2 is not wayyyyy more exciting than Marvel 3
True.
But I still love Me some Umvc3.
These are good times.
Tis' amazing content.
The gief!
God tier character variety from Master Wong
True synergy the geif is a threat that builds bar Znd puts u in mix, tag him out and samurai confirms and spends it all
Awesome set.
crazy how the match has that much in dept information, how they play around the things no one else knos lmao
Sr wong q placer verte ... te tengo abandonado .. saludos desde argentina
One of the smartest capcom players of all time, ive played lots of them hes at the top 👍
Don't sleep on the Samurai, tho
CAnt believe this dude found all this synergy and all those set ups with MVC2 Gief
I'm a simple man. I see Justin playing against a grappler, I press play.
Gief doesn’t wear a trench coat, but his cape would get in the way of all his grabs so he dashes it away lol
Such a dope set!
He goes with the launcher assist in order to have the lightning super with the two buttons
Let's gooooooo Justin!!!!!! Win Evo sf3 this year!!!!!!!
I dunno if it was a calculated read or if it was just lucky that airgrab completely jumped over Blodia, but that sequence at 1:45 was fucken *sick*
If you plan him again, go against the triple zangief team, that would be very entertaining 😂
That last round was intense!!!
it was a greatest deathmatch , congratulations
Mike Ross: ITS CHEDDAH GEIF!
I forgot how lame Justin can really play. I love it.
1:29 DAAAAAAAAMN!!!!! 😮
Best fighting game soundtrack
"Got him 😏" - Justin Wong 5:59
I thought that at 6-6 you would bring Stom+Sentinel+Cyclops just for kicks...
Glad I was wrong.
mugai does launcher assist to get lightning super thc
Awesome content !!!
More low tier matches!!!
Awesome Zangief OMG
Dang Justin use the ship super with ruby heart as dhc after Jill air super
Can you run it back with him! These were great!
Everyone talking about Cheddar Gief but can we acknowledge Stone Cold Silver Samurai?
Justin you are the goat bro
3:42 Its Tyrant Justin.
That 5th win ender was sick
-er ( i agree )(:
sicker than any trick :// tht @Jwahzlenicle may Matokanyz .. *pfft* let alone he doesnt even Makoto :// Iyq q”muhn 0:0 #jk #gGsGodspeedConceiVeThyVictoli
Let's Go Mugai, Let's Go!!
these videos are making me want to take mvc2 seriously, I just dont have the hands for it 😅
at 11:00 what the guy on commentary says is “wait does justin bot know you can’t throw samurai ?”
Silver Samurai is disgusting. Definitely my favorite MvC2 character.
I love the gief games love love
Aside from juggernaut and sentinel, servbot is my favorite person to piledrive
i wanna see justin make a silver sam team
By the way, in a couple of spots where you say that you missed a grab on silver samurai the commentator is saying that you can't throw him in those spots. Not entirely sure why (armor?) but something to look into
Insane matches. I wonder why he doesn’t use Jin dynamite
Another episode of how J Wong hate Zangief and in MVC2 is not the exception
Are you going to review commentate this year's fight kingdom mvc2 event? On stream? If so, when? I'd like to see if i can watch live.
Well I think a lot of the other mvc2 UA-camrs are uploading so I didn’t wanna step on their toes
@@jwonggg oh yeah I can see what you mean. Maybe gotta give it a bit of time? I don't think any of those other uploads are analysis or commentary and of course your analysis is higher value as well.
Well, if you do eventually decide to do some analysis of this year's MvC2 FK event I'll be glad to watch it. And hopefully I can catch it live.
Hype af
So how many characters are actually competitive in MVC2? Like 10-12?
Using maxamilians team I like it
Came here for the CHEDDA GIEF!
its like saying why do you guys call it a green hand, when its called the Banishing Flat
Hard agree that MvC2 Jill is the best version
So... When are they gonna put Gief, Silver Sam & Jin in UMVC3 Mod so Mugai can terrorize that game.
The Jill assist was Tyrant, not Nemesis 🤓🤓
Yoooo its hereee🎉🎉
AYO I know he didnt green hand a projectile in a Vs. Game lol
I didn't even know he had that in this game
somebody should modd characters that isnt in mvc2 into umvc3 mod that would be dope
I think it`s Official, Zangief is top tier in mvc2.... especially in the hands of Mugai. That Green Hand was out of pocket.