Temple & State: 2 consecrations 73 yrs apart & lessons they hold for secularism & cultural identity
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Seventy three years ago, a consecration like the one in Ayodhya stirred up a storm with some calling it an erosion of India's secular credentials and others hailing it as the restoration of a broken link from the past. In Episode 1384 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta looks back at that epoch-making event & the lessons it held for Indians irrespective of who they pray to.
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3:00 - 'This faith & creative energy are more powerful than all armies and emperors of this world'
6:30 - Locks of Babri Masjid were opened in February 1986
10:00 - Congress believed Babri demolition cost party Muslim vote in Hindi heartland
14:05 - 'To have a glimpse of God or truth, it is not necessary for all men to follow one and only one path'
20:40 - 'Religious intolerance can't have any other consequence but to produce bitterness, immorality'
25:30 - 'Our attempt is not to rectify history but to proclaim anew our attachment to the faith'
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One can see the pain in Mr Gupta's gestures when talking about Somnath. His love for his faith is at loggerheads his conviction to stay "secular" as a journalist.
You are out of breath sir, your campus of truth doesn't allow for it, you are a paragon of truth for us mere humans, you are the lighthouse of Alexandrea. God Bless You.
Just saw 800+ comments but majority filled with anger & hate...That will only bring immense suffering & pain to them, right here & next.. Perhaps some monetary benefits as motivation but ignorant of what befalls upon them...Feel sad for them..
Heartiest congratulations to the Hindu Community on this historic day. A masjid can be built on any piece of land fulfiling direction requirement. But this is a sacred place attached to a historic moment in Hindu religion so should have been given gracefully by the Indian Muslim community long ago.
Muslims like you sir again put my trust in so called hindu muslim unity
Holy. Thanks man. I have tears in my eyes. Thank you so much for saying this. It means a lot to us. May god bless your soul.
May peace be upon you brother. Tha k you for such wonderful words.
Thank u sir for ur kind words....
❤
May god bless u ❤
Great statement reflecting the Bhartiya Ethos. Pranaam to You sir
If Nehru wanted to make "growth & development" as core of Indian Nationalism, then he did an extremely poor job of realising it..... India had around 2 to 3℅ of growth with horrifying corruption in license Raj
and it set the precedent for big government for the future, a massive bureaucracy which is the source of corruption, which causes the most infamous stereotype about India, that things move at a frustrating glacial pace.
But doesn't development takes time to show....you invest and then after some time the investments amde bear fruit...IIT, IIM are example of such investment of which India is bearing fruits and getting applauded across the world.
Colleges of excellence existed before independence @@PahadiProgrammer
@@PahadiProgrammer Few good academic campuses don't bring transformational change in economy,many smaller countries in Europe & Southeast Asia doesn't have any great institution like IIT & IIM but economically,their per capita income is 5 to 7 times more than that of India.Holistic growth & development requires economic policies & decisive implementation..
@@arjavgarg5801 like?? Can you Google and give us a few examples? Accept that license Raj was needed. It wasn't implemented well like banning 1k and 500 rupees note
I remember visiting #Ayodhya about 15 years ago. Reaching the city was one challenge and getting a glimpse of the idol was another. Seeing #RamLalla in a tent, on a mountain of debris, through an iron cage was not just underwhelming but it was serious blow to my sense of being a Hindu. We know that the consecration ceremony is political but this does not undermine the fact this is a big moment for all Hindus around the world. Like me, millions of Hindus worldwide are today proud of their religious, and ethnic identity. This is one way to preserve the world's oldest surviving civilization, revive a city, and to create economic opportunities. Our celebrations should neither be seen as an expression of triumph nor as expression of religious supremacy. We are over joyed for finally being recognized.
Come back to Bharat. It needs you. What's the point in staying in whichever videshi place you are in. Have the guts to come back and see Bharat in all its glory.
@@harshakumar104 thats not fully fair. alot of money is flowing in to India thru NRIs. NRIs plays a big role to make india image outside India. Atleast until 2050 or 2060 its ok to be NRI if they want to.Iam sure after 2050 NRIs will become less
In india
If you celebrate Christianity, it's secularism.
If you celebrate islam, it's also secularism
Same goes ro Sikhism and Buddhism.
But ,If you celebrate Hinduism then its communalism. We are the majority, why should we apologise for our religion just because someone else feel insecure. Time to change that.
Maybe its the way you celebrate it
Smell the coffee.
Back in the late 1980s, I was posted in a government institution. In those days serial Ramayana was screened for an hour every Sunday morning. During times of heavy workload, because of the added work schedules, the institution worked on Sundays of some weeks. On those Sundays, I recall, the staff wanted an hour’s break between 09.30 - 11.00 AM to watch the serial Ramayana. I believe the whole nation came to a standstill during the screening. BJP etc. was not even on the horizon during that period.
All said and done, the “Ram Mandir” in Ayodhya will be a boost to the hospitality, travel and tourism industries while boosting the State and local economies.
Tailpiece: The stock value of L&T who constructed the Ram Temple, has almost doubled in the last one year.
THE STOCK PRICE OF RAM BHAKT ADANI, WHO FUNDED MODI'S RE-ELECTION HAS CRASHED BY 80% IN THE LAST 1 YEAR.
While I like what you said is true, I would contradict regarding the economical gains. It not even the perspective to see it. Ram will have a great home, no matter what. We dont need any money off of it
@@MrSur512 If your Ram didn't have a home till now, where was he staying?? Stop calling Ram a homeless guy.😂😂😂😂
your Ram? He is everyone's ❤@@AmitKumarAlphaX
@@MrSur512 Incredible, I was not even aware that gods require bricks and mortar structures to reside in . Humans are ingenious- first they create gods and then they build homes for them and then the politicians continue the narrative with elections . Bhagwan kush hua !
Imagine this - if in 1951 or now, Muslim leaders say, “we acknowledge the destruction of temples in Ayodhya, Mathira and Kashi. Hindus can build temples there”. In return Hindu leaders donated to rebuilding mosques at alternate locations. How different Indian culture and politics would have been?
Mosques at alternate sites? Why? Compensation for illegal mosques built razing Hindu temples? If so done, a wrong deed is being condoned, which is against justice.
The destruction was part of warfate in medieval times
Even hindu kings destroyed temples
They will never. & Hindus should never donate to them. In fact, Hindus shouldn’t even do business with them, ideally.
Who in Muslim leader could take such a call.
Five villages asked by Pandavas. All we ask is only five temples. If the Muslims could have a large heart, history would be different. Still, we will get our rightful temples back through non-violence and as per law.
We are blessed to be able to witness this in our lifetime. Shri Ramchandra ji is our Aradhya Dev and the soul of Bharatiya civilization. Jai Shri Ram.
BJP-RSS AUR MODI, ELECTION KI WAJAH SE HI ADHURE MANDIR ME PRAAN PRATISTHA KAR RAHE HAIN, HINDU SHAASTRA VIDHI AUR SHANKARACHARYON KE KHILAF JAA KAR.
Ram ji is living in my heart since when I watched Ramayan as a kid.
I am sure this mandir means a lot to many but to me it makes no difference.
Generally I find peace and divinity in nature, away from crowds of temples 🤔
@@Yash.027 THIK BAAT HAI. BUT RAMAYAN KI KALPANIK KAHAANI EK JATIVAADI, NARIVIRODHI AUR ANDH VISHWASI KAHANI HAI.
@@AmitKumarAlphaXtheek hai bhadwe. Ab so ja, rat ho gyi kafi
@@AmitKumarAlphaX in gobar khane walon ko samajh nahi ayega
Tomorrow is the final assualt on 'elitsm VIPism, slavish secularism, hollow activism,AC room fake intelectual discussions'
People are not following PM Modi but he's following people
Know the difference
Jai Shree Ram
Not the final but a very strong one.
Great post
Lol bjp rss uses fake nationalism 😂
Your childish idea of how the world works makes me want to smile. Your dear Modi is busy selling the country to the Adanis and Ambanis of the country. Jan 22 changes nothing
I never understood Why congress freezes so many issues? I have often found it difficult to say what thoer ideology is, but I can say their Ideology is that they are the party of maintinaing the status quo, they want everything to be stagnant, want us to forget things, if they come under too much pressure they will do some half baked attempt, but you can like or dislike Modi, BJP/RSS and there are many reasons to do so they are not perfect, but they are not afraid of moving forward, come what may.
You will realise why the Congress is like that in 20 years time. The precedent has been set that one party through the threat of force can overpower the state and make a one-sided decision in its own favour. But there are more issues in India that just Hindu-Muslim. They are fought in languages and geographies that you don't know about they are extremely consequential to the continued existence of republic of India. Manipur is just the start of that catastrophe. Many more will come and BJP has shown that its does not have either the capability nor the will to handle them in a manner conducive to the peaceful and continued existence of the republic.
@Drias.. They have frozen the idea of reservation also...
@@bilalbaig8586there are people like you in our country who wants the country to fail. Hindu is not a religion, just come out of your islam idea. Hindu is land and respecting people who have risen to God level is the culture of this land. This culture of ours not only tolerate but accept you as fellow human being....
@@akshytube Listen bro. I'm just the messenger. You are more than welcome to ignore me. You putting your head in the sand is not going to make the problems go away. Its free advice. Take it or leave it. If this country goes sideways we will always have 50+ Islamic countries to go to as you always keep reminding us. You guys only have one.
@@bilalbaig8586 looks like there is some wishful thinking from your end for every small disagreement to turn into a conflict. Freezing issues and putting your head in the sand will lead to more radical elements who will rise, and confict, exactly the opposite of what you are assuming. And thats exactly what happened in Manipur, there had been ethnic tensions for a long time and one grouo was given special staus and the other was not, the trigger for this was the Myanmar civil war which caused illegals to enter India causing the Meiteis to feel insecured, Frozen conflicts only need a trigger like this to activate, its up to us to either solve them as peacefully as possible or wait for violence to start.
Should you open the wounds of the past ?
What if the wound of the past is still festering in the new generation of Indians. The congress tried to not even let us know that we were wounded by manipulating the history that was taught to all Indians . On the contrary, they glorified the People who caused those wounds in the distant past . Such was the type of suppression we Hindus were facing . NO MORE!
Wounds of the past are opened all the time whether it be caste, language politics or Gujarat 2002, Godse. People go into to past to talk about Hindu destruction of Buddhist and Jain temples. The only time the past must be concealed is when it comes to Hindu concerns. This ignorance of majority is viewed as modernity and secularism. Caste and language division is called “social justice”. These same hypocrites will then tell you how democracy works and lecture you on economics even though we stayed stagnant until 90s. They blame Nehru’s failed policies on Hindus by calling it “Hindu rate of growth” not Nehru’s rate of growth. Then Hindus get mad at all this hypocrisy and contempt and our reaction is called “religious politics”.
@@rohanindra6401ha ha ha😂😂😂what Hindus destroyed Buddhists and Jain temples .....in which book from WhatsApp library you got that .....nice joke by the way.....gujrat happened because of godhra don't you forget that ...and Godse was wrong .....but godse didn't terrorise other religion communities ....he was a murderer that it
Dumbo don't spread fake propaganda here
Don't tell your WhatsApp University lol
Read the history properly
There is one crucial difference between Somnath and Ayodhya: there was no mosque on Somnath. If there were, reconstructing it would not have been as easy. So, yes, there is some parallel with the Shree Ram temple, but it is even more significant. Second, the mistake Shekhar made is that India was not a 'secular' country by any means then; the word was added by an unconstitutional parliament under Indira Gandhi much latter. Please correct these mistakes. BTW, even after adding that word, India is still not a 'secular' country, as the Indian constitution has different laws for people based on their religion. That is anything but secular. You may repeat the word a thousand times, but unless you enact laws to uphold it, it is a farce only.
There was a mosque on Somnath also, check Wikipedia
There was a mosque at Somnath.
They had actually build one to mock Hindus.
Check sources.
Then this mosque was properly removed and Somnath was reestablished
@@abhishekjoshi4648 did not know that. can you give some reference please.
I am living just 100 km away and i didn't know about mosque at somnath.... We Hindus are kept away from history😢
Jay shree ram
@@samirang21
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somnath_temple
Although,
I don't need this source because Historians a lot of time show biases.
My personal source is my grandfather who was present when that mosque at site of Somnath was removed by Sardar Patel.
A few days ago an Extremist Muslim had created a video which became viral in which he clearly says they will create mosque again.
I will search and give that source again
Loved this episode. Congress is not coming back because of its deeds against Hindus. Many North Indians came from Pakistan after partition and got a left wing government hence we’re not going to bring it back. RG can do all the Yatras and visit temples, but he ain’t coming to center
Rajendra Prasad was a scholar and a visionary never knew about him so much. Thanks for sharing
It is increasingly becoming clear that the Nehruvian socialism, which then degenerated into the politics of appeasement, was responsible for stifling the voice of Hindus in Congress under the garb of secularism.
Let us hope the willful suppression/misrepresentation of facts by left leaning historians and scholars is corrected once and for all - the recognition as you call it!
Thank you Shekharji for quoting Dr Rajendra Prasad - very aptly presented at opportune moment. 🙏
Nehru was wrong always. Him being the first prime minister of India was a huge blunder😮 He slowed down India’s progress for decades
Do you know the growth rate of India from 1900 till independence?
What kind of nation nehru inherited from Britishers ?
@@atulmishra932Yeah, later they gave it name as hindu growth of rate ..
@@atulmishra932Don't you India was colonised by British before Khangress
@@shobhitdagur1086 so you know colonialism ,because of that we had negative growth rate for almost 5 decades, during Nehru's tenure it reached at 4% between 1951 -1961 . Under Nehru's time IIT, IIM, Atomic energy commission, Space program, Dams , Steel plant BHEL etc and other institutions of national importance were constructed.
Right wing loonies always used to see nehru only through the China debacle as if other achievements of our country meant nothing.
And yes nehru was agnostic, he didn't care much about mandir masjid regressive politics
Mainly he damaged India by letting Pakistan take PoK and letting China take part of Kashmir. This is his biggest blunder.
Nehru secularism means Govt shud control over temple but dont go to temple
Also loot the temple and give it muslims and christians.
I agree.
That was done with a motive to let lower caste hindoos to get entry into those very same temples
January 22 marks the end of Mughaliya-Nehruvian Secularism. I
t is the first day of Bharatvarsha's rise-from the ashes of "Nehruvian India".
@@sm1256WhatsApp University graduate lol 😂😂😂
Correction: Locks of Ram mandir weren’t opened by Rajiv Gandhi. They were opened by order of Faizabad district judge on the petition of Umesh Chandra Pandey.
Shekharji, stop softening the blow for Congress. It’s their mismanagement that has stalled our country’s progress for decades. Finally, we have a PM who understands our aspirations and is a devout Hindu. PM Modi has showed all of us that it’s ok to openly embrace Hinduism just like people from other religions do. This doesn’t make us non-secular or intolerant.
Jai Shree Ram! 🛕
No dude. Practically it was carried out by Congress only. Because earlier whenever such a petition would be filed, the authorities would recommend otherwise giving reason of law and order. But this time around opening the locks was not opposed to, because of instructions from top. People involved in the process have themselves claimed so, even those who were not congressmen.
@@ComradeTotaram-ns4uoit's because of Shah Bano case they felt the need to support a Hindu cause.
Yeah like he said banning of book and shah Bano as “mis-step” and opening of temple locks as “over correction”.
Well but can’t argue to fact that tricks like this only makes you good English journalist 👌🏻
Development stopped cowards like you being educated with hate appeasement
He has also called it hypocrisy and has maintained this stance on the hijab ban as well. Bigotry isn't justified for anyone. There are hypocritical liberals. This guy isn't one of them.@@ashutoshbhatt262
Mu grandfather died in long back with the hope one day he would visit ayodhya to see ram temple while reciting vedas and ramayana. Today he will be in peace somewhere ...
please my humble request to all people untill mathura and kashi are restored back dont get too excited
We know so little of Dr Rajendra Prasad...listening to his views was a revelation...Dr Prasad may not have been a philosopher but was certainly a brilliant man. Maybe time has come for a biopic on our first president
Because congress chose to promote Nehru Gandhi and underplayed rest
EK hi Nara ek hi Nam #JaishriRam #JaishriRam
Growth without culture doesn’t give meaning to life. Californians are realizing this. Europeans are. It might take sometime before rest of the world also realizes that!
So true. Culture is where life of people as a community find its meaning
Japan also realising it
There people stay alone in there rooms and do wfh .. suicide rate is so much high without culture and spirituality
Great point. Meaning of life is not just material, which the west thinks, but also spiritual, cultural emotional and family. The west has lost so much that its people have nothing left to aspire fore except a few more followers and validation on social media.
It is quite ironic that muslim leaders keep insisting on holding control of mosques in kashi and varanasi where even they acknowledge that hindus temples were desecrated to construct mosques. Yet secularism applies only one way in terms of accommodating minority interest while completely crushing the emotions of majority. The best solution was to hand over the two remaining historical structures at kashi and mathura
Yeah, it is heaven to be a Muslim in India. I know. By the way, since you are an over secular Hindu who never harms others, will you rent out your house to a Muslim? Even an educated one? It's hilarious that well fed, well heeled Hindus like you, who have access to huge resources, and the freedom to worship the way you want cry so much tears over being victims. Your emotions are crushed? Seriously? You are a victim? Good joke.
It was not the demlition of Babri but the curse of Shah Bano, whuch ensured that the Congress did not get a Malority thereafter nor will they in foreseeable future, Sir.
Simple reason hindu nationalism is today gaining ground is because the old mldel failed to deliver. If nehruvian secularism or the socialism of 1990s would have given growth rather than license raj and caste divide people would have supported the model. Development is the core of legitimacy, if any model fails to give development it sooner rather than later losses legitimacy. Hindutva will flourish till the time india maintains highblevel of growth it is for opposition to come with better economic models to enable india to flourish. If you plan to highlight states like bihar, west bengal, etc forget defeating bjp but if you can popularise tamil nadu then there is strong chance of revival. Lastly, let's not excessively be sad while secularism has suffered some bit by and large indian ethos teach us to respect other religions and this is a tide that will pass like ms gandhi's emergency.
Shekhar Ji You Prefectly Said " India was in A Work in Progress " On 22 nd Jan 2024 One More Step Towards Rediscovering The Indian Spirit 🙏
When Christians can have Vatican and Muslims can have Mecca, Hindus rightfully can have Ram's Ayodhya temple to represent their faith.
SRI RAM 🙏
Should you open the wounds ? IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO CORRECT A WRONG THAT WAS DONE !!
There was no temple destroyed to build the Babri Masjid. The Supreme Court hearing and historians have clearly stated it. What wrong are you talking about?
The demolition of Babri Masjid was wrong and criminal which Supreme Court has clearly stated. Please check the Supreme Court verdict.
I don't think Christian relate to the Vatican like a muslim relate to Mecca.
People of India Today has realised that they have wasted their votes by giving their votes last 60 years to congress. As BJP has taken a firm resolve to make India developed nations by 2047 , we should also take resolutions to bring BJP in power till 2050. Jay shree Ram 🙏🙏🙏
We cannot move on until Kashi and Mathura are restored
Guptaji will never say that the issue is that some congressman and some islamists have always derived their allegiance to turks who ruled india and destroyed these temples.....conveniently forgetting that their own forefathers were either converted by sword, inducement or unnamed denigrated activity against women
Nice CC # The simple argument is- Nehru was raised(educated) outside India and his beliefs on Hinduism (India)is different where as others (RP/Patel etc.)know India at grassroots level and beliefs on Hindusim.. Hindus never attack others, they always see one god (PARAMAATMA) in many .. This was missed by Congress party and took different path of appeasement politics (of Muslims/minorities for votes) and NOT willing to (even now) change it's attitude towards Hindus/Hinduism. As long as Congress (opposition)does not understand India/Hinduism well , BJP will rule India..
Very TRUE
Maybe the inhuman caste practice had turned the rationalist Nehru against Hinduism?
@@karthikeyannataraj3786 are reservations for 60 years not enough? 😅
If our leaders in the 50s and 60s had such great awareness about our issues, our past, our culture...what happened? Why are we like this? Such a sad narrative of wasted time and missed opportunities
THAT YOU BECAME UNWORTHY ISN'T YOUR FATHER'S FAULT. YOUR FATHER DID ENOUGH TO BRING YOU FROM A WORLD OF HUNGER, FAMINES & ABJECT POVERTY TO A WORLD OF FOOD SURPLUS, IITs, IIMs, AIIMS, DRDO, ISRO, IRRIGATION PROJECTS & HEAVY INDUSTRIES. IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU STOP BLAMING YOUR FATHER.
Stop being such a socialist, you nehru bhakt@@AmitKumarAlphaX
@@AmitKumarAlphaX I have read that the average IQ of our society is 78. Don't know if that's true, but the more time I spend on social media the more convinced I am of this. I swear people cannot string 2 sentences together without slipping into incoherence. In whichever language
@@djsjsjjejebfbdj That's exactly how I feel. I can relate to you because a majority of what we see on social media is just jobless ANDH BHAKTS propagating UNEVIDENCED POST-TRUTH PROPAGANDA.👍👍👍👍
@@djsngolossy6237 JUST STOP BLAMING YOUR FATHER & START WORKING ON YOUR DEMOCRACY, SCIENCE, INNOVATION & INDUSTRIES. BUILDING A TEMPLE & BUILDING A NATION ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS!
Thank you, sir, for digging out this gem of a speech buried dep down by India's extremely selfish pseudo socialists. India should have recognized and followed the words of wisdom of great patriots like Patel, Rajendra Prasad, Rajaji, Minoo Masani and their golden vision which was completely shadowed and blocked by India's elite leftists. I hope India takes the right direction now. And thank you for the quality of your journalism.
Modi should start new gyanvapi mandir project. As makka hold respect to entire muslim world and support increase economy of soudi and political clout , Ram mandir, gyanvapi mandir and Varanasi corridor would also play same role for UP and india.....Jay shree Ram 🙏 🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yes. We should focus on this only. Who cares about unemployment, poor healthcare, trade deficit etc ?
Building the temple will not lead to healing of old intergenerational wounds because we still do not have a truth & reconciliation process.
That is difficult, given that the "wrong " history has been taught for the last 75 years and there is no acknowledgement of, what Will Durant has termed", the greatest genocide in the history.
Australian, Canadian parliaments have acknowledged past injustices against the indigenous peoples and formally apologised.
The Indian parliament can at least acknowledge the genocide.
But then the GOI would be accused of being "right wing Hindutva nationalist" !
Dude, the Australian majority, the whites apologized to the minority. Are you saying that Muslims, who are by far the poorest section of Indian society should apologize to the Ambanis, Adanis, Murthys, and why, even to suited booted fatcats like you? Seriously? Genocide? Do you think the 85% Hindu population of India has come about because of genocide? Quoting Will Durant cannot make up for an utter lack of conscience. By the way, I wonder where Will Durant has talked about this so-called "genocide" in India. Do you even know what genocide means?
Wow, wow, absolute gem. My respect for Dr Rajendra Prasad as increase many fold. SG, Thank you so much for giving clarity on my personal thoughts. My thoughts are absolutely just like Rajendra Prasad today. Let’s be the Hindus that we have always been. Truth does not only win, it prevails.
This speech offers valuable insight into the complex history of cultural polarization in India. While the current Modi administration faces accusations of dividing the nation along religious lines, the truth is that previous governments have suppressed India's foundational cultural fabric. As we reflect on India's past and work towards a more unified future, it is important not to oversimplify or lay blame solely on any one leader or party. Let's acknowledge hard truths - blacking out this speech from history texts is a travesty of free speech. I appreciate this thoughtful episode for adding nuance to this sensitive issue.
Mr.laddu is true delight ❤
What india needs is first an acceptance that wrong had taken place and second a sense of forgiveness and some corrective measures. Hiding wrongs will only result in hardline feelings coming back with strong sense of revanchism.
What about the wrong that took place in December 1992? Oh, that was not wrong, I guess.
@@harshakumar104 who said it was not wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. But truth and reconciliation has to take place from both sides. Both have to accept their wrongs and take corrective measures.
People who support Palestine citing it has been illegally occupied (rightfully so) but does not support Ram Mandir which has been illegally occupied by Babri worship place are the hypocrites of highest order.
If they don’t practice hypocrisy, how can they propagate “Peace” in this world ?
If only Nehru had not followed his ideology of socialism, India probably would’ve been a lot more prosperous- much like what Dr. Rajendra Prasad had wished 😢
most congress men besides patelwere muslim appeasers.
actually nehru should have started building temples and keep ur grandparents as pukari ..indi would have been superpower
@@bha3265 nehruvian economic model anyway failed this country.
@@sachithrao6353 yes i saw ur grandfathers begging in temple …nehru was bad
@@bha3265 i also your grandfathers mating with edwinas kind and begging in front of mosques.
Antonia Maino's lapdog, Shekhar Gupta, is sad and angry because of Hindu resurgence. But I am really loving his meltdown. 😂
THIS IS NOT HINDU RESURGENCE. THIS IS JUST HINDUTVA POLITICAL CIRCUS FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTION!😂😂😂😂 THAT'S EXACTLY WHY THEY'RE DOING PRAAN PRATISTHA IN AN INCOMPLETE TEMPLE.
Absolutely correct !
Shekhar Ji , One of The Memorable Day In History of The World Not Just Modern India Victory of Good Over Bad
It is because of the faith resilience of Millions of Hindus over centuries that Hindu civilisation has survived over 4000 years despite facing verbal & physical abuse ,swords , bullets & loot , the never ending court battles , the propaganda unleashed by western leftists & our own indian liberals . Yes leaders like Shivaji , Rana Pratap ,Ahiliya Bai Sardar Patel , Advani , Modi were at the forefront but lets not forget the ordinary man from different regions of India who for 500 years with their bhakti devotion were the foot soldiers of Hinduism. is not about revenge or just renaissance it is about reconciliation & and will lead to peaceful coexistence with other communities this would be true secularism.Jai shri Ram
Imagine, AIR not airing the speech of the President. Shame on Nehruvian censorship
Ram Janmabhoomi movement was the manifestation our national aspirations and sentiments.
Its completion augurs the rejuvination and revitalization of the Indian nation and civilization.
Jay jay Shri Ram!
tune kay kiya ..comment likhane ke siway
Secularism doesn't mean leaders cannot love their religion. It only implies religion shall not enter the secular domain and it should not be the basis for allocation of opportunities. But unfortunately rational views have been applied only to Hindus(personal law reform) while minorities particularly muslims(mullah influence) have been pampered negatively like shah bano case.
Under all those layers, today somewhere, I see a happy Ram bhakt (too much? admirer) cheering inside Sekher Ji
What speach will be given at Ayodhya will be decided by the people who fought for it. Don't need Guptaji's advice
Nehru did not want Dr. Rajender Prasad to attend Somnath Temple inauguration, but himself went to Babar's Tomb in Afganistan in the year 1959. So much for his secularism...
He went to pay respects to his ancestors. His heart beats for Babar.
True secularism- Get out of temple, UCC, remove Wafq act and minority institution act, and anything to do with religion and government. Stay out of it. What we have is half backed state with minority appeasement constitution. Once it is removed then we can call secularist
There was huge lost due to secularism in India....
I am reminded about Himanta Biswas stating that Rahul was focused on feeding his dogs when discussion on matters of state was being conducted.
Shekhar Gupta is more interested in his dogs during a discussion on Ram Temple.
Yes history cannot be corrected and we have to be forward looking. That does not mean that the present day muslim community cannot correct some of the wrong doings voluntarily and working equally for religious and cultural harmony. The expectation is always from the hindus which is hurtful for us. Have we seen even a single procession by muslims to express solidarity with the humiliation that the hindus have gone thru. Why was the land not given to hindus as an expression of love to our community? Can you left centre whatever shekarji answer? Aren't Ayodhya, Kashi, Mathura our Mecca and Madina. Will the muslim faith tolerate such humiliation to their faith?
No i am not an islamophob but like crores of hindus agree that muslims are pampered and play victim card politics and enjoy full support of gulf countries. All because of congress.
We hindus are the only community in this world which was insecure in a nation where we are the majority. This was corrected by Modi and long live Modiji.
Madam Ji - Shekar Gupta and his ilk knows every point that you have raised, and yet they would appease the “Peacefuls” and supress the Hindus..
This is because, deep in their hearts, these people are spineless, characterless, self loathing products of McCaulay’s education.
This is the hidden mechanism. Please understand.
Mr gupta, culture does die when Abrahamic religion takes root
This point needs to be debated.Chritianity has never clashed with culture.
@@somnathde8680are you serious? Have you not read the ethno-religious underlyings of the Portuguese inquisition and jesuit persecution in goa and neighboring areas.
Entirety of Europe and its native religious practices was turned to dust by this abrahamic cult.
@@somnathde8680yes they decimate the entire population. All pagan cultures were massacared and removed from the face of earth.
Gupta ji very beautiful location with live audience roaming around you
Love the dog tail wagging while SG speaks 😂
Gupta Ji sitting in real wilderness is a true example of risk taking journalism. I remember some prime time journalists using sastey graphics of them reporting in heavy Mumbai rains....wow❤
“Real Wildernes” LOL. Are you seeing any tigers in the backdrop. Its the same in any village or it could be his back yard.
He is in some adda given by his aka to spew venom against this nation, he is anti national
"Risk taking journalism"!!!😂😂 You are saying as if he is seating on a erupting volcano.
@@sameepvaidya9395 That was some dark sarcasm. Get a sense of humour, for god's sake
Sitting under banyan tree Gupta ji got enlightened 😊
No - he is now forced to acknowledge the truth… what was he doing in 80’s and 90’s ?
He too is a part of Pseudo secular cabal.
Nation always need strong base to grow strongly as we see in Arab world, USA and EU. For that India should also based on strong ideology and only hindutva has that capacity. so we should vote to power Modi in 2024. Jay shree Ram 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
A refreshing perspective. I was unaware of this piece of history. It was informative to see the parallels between 1951 and 2024. We as a nation veered far toward the left and now are veering far toward the religious right. Let us see what the future holds for us. It is instructive to see that there is no separation of the proverbial church and state in India.
Thanks for unearthing this fabulous speech by Dr. Rajendra Prasad for us. Many of us would never get to know about this wonderful piece of history if it wasn’t for you.
That was because Nehru instructed media to not publicise/report President Dr. Rajendra Prasad's speech at Somnath Mandir consecration.
Appeasement politics was the big blunder lead to current mess...the fear of lossing the Power and image as world leader reason behind such blunder by Nehruji
Gem of a speech. This should be the blueprint for every Indian to follow his religion and culture.
Sekhar sir spoke with open heart and with "OPINON " 😮😮😮
Dr Prasad does not wanted Indians to live in the past but he in his end note himself brought Al Biruni and wanted Indians to reach the height exactly as it happened in the past. (Shekhar ji added Hindu Rashtra), This is the challenge with the political leader's statements, its always subject to interpretation!
What will happen if hindus were brought to that level? The minute they become weak/minority, another Al Biruni will write another book while another invader destroying it.
Well majority of us Hindus are not talking about Hindu Rashtra. We just want our important temples back and maybe a sincre apology from Muslims. We all want our nation to attain new heights .
Please explain sir what do you mean about the project was completed at the time of inauguration by Rajendra prasad.? I know that the mandir was completed only in 1965 14 years after the pran pratishtha of shivling.
I wonder if one day our Bharat will celebrate the inauguration of schools, universities, or hospitals with the same vigour and conviction!
Doubt this will happen. Both the education and healthcare sectors have become heavily commercialised and run strictly for money. However, in South India, many large temples run schools, orphanages and colleges from their donations and they have been providing quality education (this is not a religious education), free of cost to economically weaker sections since decades. I myself am one such beneficiary. Perhaps the Ram Janmabhoomi Trust can undertake such an effort now that they are flooded with funds.
India was and is secular because of its sanatana dharma. Secularism doesn’t mean that minorities are appeased by the government and politicians for the purposes of vote harvesting . You cannot have majority religious institutions under government control and the minorities under private management. Please name any other country that does that ….
I wish with all these our kaliyug Ram also look into Manipur to fix the civil war which we dont even care or maybe sanatan Ram only for getting vote from one faith.🤐
Why the LIBERAL, Nehru who was said to be democratic and free speech supporter BANNED this speech which was delivered not by an ordinary citizen, but by PRESIDENT of India.
Agree entirely. The speech is very relevant, every word of it. The very fact that it is still so relevant itself is a demonstration of what went wrong. Hope we take the last para as seriously as the rest of it. Triumphalism should be avoided. Time for quite dignity.
Faith is not a building, river, mountain or temple- its within, a feeling, an emotion. Some have it some don't.
17:14 Wise describe him in many ways is not ishwar alla.. ekam sat vipra bahuda vadanti .. bit more research please
No one is saying that India will become Hindurashtra ....but we Hindus are proud of our Sanatan ....and there was a time when we used to feel humiliated and the leftists historians have literally ruined history for us....Social media has powered us so that now we can know the truth....anyways
Bhgwaan Ram represents both Shaurya and shalinta...baaki i won't say more....
Jai shree Ram🙏🙏
We are hindu rastra bcz wherever peaceful population grow they kick out native population like kashmiri pandit.
One thing is clear; Ayodhya and also UP is going towards huge economic boom. And it's not only benefits Hindus but also for every people.
Jai Hind ❤❤
Jai Sriram 🙏🙏
Beautiful coverage and great insight on Dr Rajendra Prasad speech during Somenath temple...a very relevant episode to understand the significance of Ayodhya temple and how we should move on in future as a great nation
Good the see the great comments below from informed viewers !!
i can see two dogs one very faithful to it master in the video and the other is very faithful to his master no in the video
In India, people confuse pluralism with secularism. Indian constitution doesn’t have a separation of religion and state. Thus it’s not secular.
Politicians don’t need to be secularists but the constitution should be secular. Unfortunately it’s not.
We don’t need Laïcité because that’s on the other extreme but we do need American kind of secularism.
Even these so called academia and leftists can't explain Indian secularism properly. When govt controls and manages temples...how is it any kind of secularism?
Oh wait govt is only involved in majority religion affairs. Other religions are private. Yet govt should not promote a religion.. what kind of double faced standards are these ?
Other religions are getting promotion.
Very good analysis of a very complicated issue. History shall be the judge, so very true. History should not be airbrushed as it cannot be, a rare gem of a thought. Thanks
One thing that I loved in in this episode is Mr. Ladu
Nehru failed to deliver in most areas whether it be on economy, China, Pakistan and Kashmir. India needed a balance between right and left what we got was hard dose left which undermined us economically, diplomatically and even culturally.
Burnol moment for all the print team😂😂😂😂🎉
Excellent episode @@ShekharGupta I pray that on this day historic day, our nation also imbibes the ideals of Ram and moves ahead to an all inclusive, happy and prosperous society 🙏
Thank you, Rajeev. I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Great episode by Mr. Shekhar. The ideals and sheer quality of thought that our founders had (along with maintaining civil discourse) is truly inspiring.
Yup truly inspiring to crooks
Reupload? Did you delete the video because of the pro-Temple comments? It won't work.
No, no…because there was a software malfunction and a few seconds here and there were garbled… thanks for keeping an eye…sg
@@ThePrintIndia, I hope you one day make a CTC chronicling the role of the Left in this matter. A property dispute became a battle of religious supremacy because a victim was denied his/her victimhood. Your own channel has videos promoting the theory of the "alleged" demolition of the Ram temple by Babur, even though the Supreme Court of the land relied on archaeological evidence. Even the Muslim archaeologist of the Ram temple excavation team, Mr K K Muhammed, has accused the Left of attempting to "bury" the truth.
Hypocrisy at it's best 😂
5:50 “a temple with a complicated history”
What’s complicated about it, Shekhar? If I break into your house and steal your goods, it’s not complicated event, it was theft.
Unconventional
Unusual
One of the most compelling episodes
SGji carefully dissects an astronomical speech and delights with his "cheating"
I just realized how less we know about Dr Rajendra Prasad... What a poweful speech.. The way you draw parallels between the two consecrations is unmatched!!!
Nehru's stupidity is that he wanted the country to beleive that it was his thought process that brought and created this country.
What he missed is that Bharat always existed in this country despite having different king.
This blunder caused this country to take completely disastrous tragectory.
Thank God, many sane people in this country including people of Congress party did not heed to Nehru's thought.
Dumb bastard why are blaming on first pm for everything
Ress the history properly first
What you smokin man!!!!
Development in India since Nehruvian times???
1945 World War II ended.
We got our Independence in 1947.
We are at war with Pakistan since September 1947.
The big five of NAM passed away and their nations became pygmies.
1950s the great Panditji codified ONLY hindu personal laws.
China hammered us in 1962.
Panchsheel went down the drain.
Nehru died heartbroken in 1964. His era too was marked by corruption.
Remember who nurtured the Abdullahs in Kashmir (which family) and why (By the way this was probably the only princely state that Nehru kept charge of to himself for merger with India, And what it cost India until recently ? [while Sardar Patel managed about 440 with skill and merged them into India before he died in December 1950. ]
Shastri died mysteriously in Tashkent.
Indira came post Shastriji in late 1960's and, gave us more poverty, nationalisation, dismissal of legitimately elected state governments, systematised corruption, gave us emergency.
Heard of the 'Mitrokhin Papers' and an entire chapter on corrupt top politicians in India? Haven't we?
Remember who nurtured a Bhindrawale in Punjab and why? And what it cost India?
1980s China opened up to the US of A for manufacturing and progressed since to number 2 in the world.
Already destroyed in World War II, ravaged Japan, Germany, Europe and the far East progressed and how!!! to become developed nations,
while we remained a developing nation for 7 long decades.
1991/92 our economy didn't open up out of change of heart.
We did because we were forced to and because we were 'broke'.
Historically Bharat was a land of traders, trade, business and commerce. 800 years of foreign invasions and rule, broke our spine economically, culturally and socially. But our belief in our faith, religion, aastha, spirituality persisted.
So please please cut the BS, justification and obfuscation.
You my dear ain't even convincing yourself, let alone the duniya. Unclutter yourself first.
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Jai Hind, Jai Bharat.
Well said!
Wow amazing post need to posted as a separate video
Blame on caste system dumbo
Read the statistics lol
Don't spread fake propaganda here
Sincere and clear acknowledgement of wrongs in the near or distant past is an essential part of healing and moving on. Ostensibly to preserve communal harmony, our so-called secularists have selectively taken the stance that there was no oppression in the pre-colonial era, but are happy to call out Britain (even in her own parliament) for colonial practices and exploitation. This lays the foundation for inter-generational angst and deepens faultlines, which can and will be exploited by politicians!
Acknowledgement of previous wrongs does not give you the license to commit equal wrongs and acts of bigotry today.
Exactly the opposite - acknowledgement brings closure and provides an outlet for the angst that may be channeled towards violence/ hostility otherwise. This has unfortunately not happened in post independence India. Look at post-war Germany and Japan and their relations with their principal victims (USSR, China), it's a study in contrast and largely a function of how they treated their war crimes.
Brilliant- downloaded it for safe keeping! 👍🌹
Thank you, Anil, and I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Nehru committed blunders by ignoring the soul of this country sanatan dharma.
India suffered greatly for his love for western style.
Indian civilization is more than 5000 years old and Hinduism has always existed since.
India has 85 % Hindus and has the right to call itself a Hindu state. This does not preclude others from co-existing and practicising their faith. But at the same time Hindus need not have to feel ashamed that they are the majority and can rightfully follow their faith without having to explain to the critics that they are somehow breaking secularism. Christians and Muslims have fought many wars trying to use religion to impose their rule and faith through crusades trying to capture and convert far out regions. HINDUISM HAS NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN SUCH RELIGIOUS CRUSADES AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN THE CORNERSTONE OF HINDU PHILOSOPHY !!
Brilliant speech. Thanks for digging it up and sharing.
It is taking some time to understand dr. Rajendrapdasad's words.
It shows how mature and deep thinkers leaders of the past were. Nowadays I understand every politician very easily as their maturity levels are lower than the past leaders.
When we talk about Hindus it’s considered polarizing?