Old vs New: 1974 vs 2017 Ford F-250 - How Much Has The Super Duty Changed in 43 Years?
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One difference, the new Ford truck won't make it 43 years.
But the old truck doesn’t have massages on the seats.
PLAIN OUT FACTS
True!
Amen
lol it probably won't. Sorry for the really old comment reply. But you can look at other cars-ofcourse they're not work trucks, like the 98 Camry. Good car, hard to find em' with under 200k, still run fine. Computerized, relatively difficult to work on. But still a very nice, daily driving car.
'74 = farm truck.
'17 = city truck.
Tractionless 17= pussy truck
74 and 17 both shit trucks
Tractionless i almost shit when i saw your profile picture
Your Mom Chevy and RAM horrible proformace shit trucks
Enzo Scalise oh?
i miss the old times.... a truck was a truck, a car was a car. a male was a male, a female was a female.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!
Lmao
brandon norwood Amen to that
yes so true were doomed next men that are women will be marrying trucks that are cars 😕
The new trucks are ten times more capable and 100 times more comfortable than the old trucks ever were.
Ford needs to get back to basics. Not everyone can afford 76K for a rolling barcalounger. I would choose the 74 every time.
Hey dumbass, I got my 2015 f150 for 15,000 and still runs perdy good
I agree, even if it wasn’t 74K that would still stand as my choice.
he didnt say every single ford truck is 76K. Im pretty sure he was just giving an example... dumbass.
I'm pretty sure when he said $76k I'm sure he was talking about how expensive it can get, I would personally prefer a first gen Cummins but I mean the new stuff is nice too, it's just preference
Well, there is no need to get it, can always pick up a old one
when your riding in that '74, your riding in style. the fact that a lot of people don't get it just makes it that much better.
The older truck CAN be serviced by the owner...the NEW truck MUST BE serviced by FORD,no matter how simple the problem and you better have a couple of thousand bucks in the bank for it too.
New truck you remove cab to work on motor. Old truck had room for you and a buddy and a case of beer to sit under hood while working on motor
@@SgtJoeSmith Very true.
The new truck is a baisically a luxury vehichle that you cant really work on your self while the old high boy is more of a tool than personal transport and also more utilitarian and easier to work on.
My Dad has a 2018 and he's services it himself
They won't tell you their secrets.
I would take the the old truck and spend 10k a year on a vacations for 6 years lol.
that truck gets 11 mpg
The big ass diesel only get 13 to 15 plus DEF.
I would take the old truck everytime.
y'all crazy ass hell
Rugged?
The old one pulls half of what the new truck pulls and nobody is going to tell me that the old one can hit 75mph and still hear yourself think and be comfortable. I grew up around old cars and old trucks. Spent my weekdays working a job and weekends working on the truck. No more I buy good reliable cars and trucks and haven't been broke down on the side of the road in over 20 years. Ya'll can have the old junk.
I'm for the older one with no sensors or computerized electronics. For a truck to be bad-ass, it has to be Doomsday ready...
Christopher Valdés 🍻💪
I have to agree much easier to fix. Not as much electronics
hell yea
Christopher Valdés the non-sequential gears is a bitch lol my spelling sucks
YES
Nothing beats a square body truck
Tanner Warren except a truck that has aerodynamics
Engi Here if you are driving a truck for speed you shouldn't be driving a truck
I know right!
@@Jabooty_Williams gas
@@Jabooty_Williams I was talking about gas
That 74 is a real truck
How? Old doesn't always mean better. A Nissan Frontier has a higher tow capacity than this truck. Granted its cool, but I'll take a new model F250 over this any day of the week.
Mother Chucker you also have other people work on your cars right
I want a truck made in America, not Mexico.
I want a truck I won't be afraid to scratch, not a luxury vehicle with a bed.
Don't you just love the box chassis?
The only reason most old trucks got scrapped is because of cash for clunkers. Biggest scam in American history, to find old functional vehicles now is a nightmare thanks to the car lobby.
Idiotic program
Bought a 96 250xl last year and its a monster,been driving it 100 miles a day doing cement
Yeah it's true, they're trying to do something the same thing in Ireland now any vehicle over 10 years old the insurance companies don't want to insure them so a lot of them will get scrapped , it's totally BS and it will put a lot of repair shops out of business too
Nickie B I bought a 95 F150 Eddie Bauer 4x4 over the weekend, needs a little work but it's a great little truck is a 5 speed stick with the 300 in line 6
Bought and 88 F150 recently with the 5.0L 302 from an older contractor who works for the same company for $200.00 because he really didn't use it or like the poor gas mileage and the retirement home he lives in was complaining about it just sitting in the parking lot. The only real hassles I have out of it was that someone put the wrong computer in it (a 94's computer) which replacing it with the correct one fixed the bad running and gas mileage, the heater core needs to be replaced so I'm bypassing it right now, and overdrive gear stops working once the truck has warmed up which I'm hoping to just replace the valve body to see if it will fix that before having to spend thousands to get the transmission rebuilt.
The 2017 is more luxury than work (in my opinion)
True
Southern Guss yep
That's because people are using trucks for family cars and daily drivers instead of their intended purpose.
That's why I got a 2019 XL
@@christianlynch5507 I think thats really stupid to have a vehicle and not use it the way it was meant to be used. Like these trucks, but of course, everyone wants what they want. No problem with that.
Old trucks are cooler, they actually had a purpose
Doing work!
New trucks can actually do the work and not fall apart afterwards tho ;]
The old truck is in one piece.
Old trucks break down all the time when I'm off workin, my 2015 f150 still goin strong
Let's be honest, new trucks make things so simple, it takes all the work away from you doing it. I'm not saying that like it's a good thing, it's bad. More luxuries you have, the shorter the lifespan and the more it'll cost to replace. Not to mention it's just lazy. Back then, a truck was a truck. A car was a car.
Y'all talking like old trucks are the shit. They are cool to look at but nothing compared to modern trucks. Modern trucks will last 5 times as long and can work twice as hard. Dont fool yourselves because old school is "cool"
Even with a 40+ year head start, the old will outlast the new.
Brad Hough No it won't
ktfjulien wonna bet?
Samuel Moore Yup
The old won't because of common sense and aging, it will break down, plus parts can be rare since it is old and discontinued
"plus parts can be rare since it is old and discontinued"
As the proud owner of a 1966 F350 which I restored myself, I can tell you with 100% certainty that parts are NOT an issue. There are more than enough aftermarket suppliers of parts for any of your needs. The only part I'm having trouble finding is the driveshaft parking brake components. But because my truck is a manual, I really don't need a parking brake.
To me,the 1974-1977 were the very best looking F-series trucks ever made.
Nah the 90s ones are the best
@@oil1252 definitely not. The powerstroke is definitely a plus for the 90s but that's it. Stuck with a shitty fuel injection system and shitty power
@@oil1252 That's a fair preference but only as long as you're talking about the Aeronose 92-96 trucks and not the jellybean 97- onward
@@blugods2655 I haven't had any issues with mine
I have a '77 Scottsdale and I would take that any day over the new, over priced computers on wheels! the old trucks where bullet proof and you could work on them. But thats just me.
DK 10thMtn I would take the new one any day. But if one wonders why America is so fat, we can't even open the tail gate anymore. It's automatic.
the new truck is way better try and tow 6,000 pounds with that old truck
billy heaton
The old truck will pull 6000lb just fine....just not like the new one which will do it without even feeling it.
Its a moot point anyway.
no regular working man can afford the new one...they are basically just trophys for rich people who can brag about how well it tows thier equally unnecessary 5th wheel 40 foot "camper".....funny play on words there as well....how does one CAMP in a trailer bigger than some apartments anyway?
I own and I love old vehicles, but let's be honest here: the old ones could never touch a candle to the new ones. I own a 1977 f150 ranger with a 351m, and a 1966 chevelle Malibu with a 283 and 2 speed powerglide. Both vehicles handle and brake like complete shit compared to any newer truck. They are even way down on power from the newer vehicles (mainly because both motors have stock cams)
Steven Vanheel I get what you're saying but however I seriously doubt that modern vehicles will outlast the engines in the 92-96 Ford Trucks.
In 43 years the new truck will have been recycled and melted down and somebody will be drinking coke out of it..
Streetstockcamaro Yup, and that Highboy will still be a gem going strong.
Streetstockcamaro the aluminium service body on my 96 f250 is originally from a 1981 f250. aluminum will outlast the truck
Jonathan Dittmar Yes and no, it gets beat to high hell in a work environment. I use to use an all aluminum Freightliner service truck, the body on it would get smashed to shit in the quarrys from the rocks. It never rusted though , not even corroded really. The only rust on it was from the grinding/welding sparks that would stick to the white paint.
Streetstockcamaro LOL!!!
LOL
That 74 will still be rolling down the road when the 76k truck is getting scrapped
smegee77 lol yeah right
@@off-roadnpew2183 Just wait 40 more years if you don't believe him
@@off-roadnpew2183 What kind of drugs are you on ?
@@tbugher62 I have a 78. Have you ever ran a carburetor in the winter?
one owns the truck, other the bank owns lol. price of comfort and reliability I guess.
TheStuffz I dunno about the reliability part, at least in the long run...will the 2017s still be on the road in 43 years?
Older one is more reliable in the long run because its easier and cheaper to fix (that is IF youre willing to do repairs yourself). Eventually all vehicles get to an age where stuff starts going wrong and a 2017 vehicle will be much harder to fix by ones self.
74 has nothing computerized (and dont get me wrong im not like "hurr computers ewww" but the average backyard mechanic wont have the special connectors you need and knowledge often given only to dealership mechanics to fix that properly) Carbeurated and likely has a mechanical fuel pump which overall tend to be easier to fix. It really is a simple "does it have spark air and gas?" diagnosis with those things
as for comfort it depends. If youre in a hot area and there isnt A/C it might be bad but other than that you wont actually suffer that badly vs a new truck.
tbh it's A truck not a luxury car screw all the bs on the new truck.
nick smith agreed. just buy both? I have a 91 Ford that cost me $600 for my truck purposes. I also have 2010 Chrysler for "luxury". though I still use my 300 for the lighter towing purposes (under 4000lbs) because it is more comfortable
TheStuffz The new trucks remind me of timberlands boots were people wear them just to wear them and look cool but some people wear boots to work in.
I have an ORIGINAL 1968 F-250 HD still in top-notch shape and will be keeping it without question.
I used to have a 1974 Ford F250 like yours with lockers and a small lift. The truck was an absolute beast off-road, unstoppable and would literally climb a telephone pole, but the only problem with it was the 360 and 390 V8 engines that wouldn't last. I finally installed a 300 in line 6 and never had a problem since.
I'll take the old one... Atleast I won't have to pull the cab off to work on the engine!
Cough cough diesel
Yes!
G Gallegos all though I agree the rust on that 74 will just eat the truck up.
charger master that's always repairable
Its much easier to repair steel than aluminum.
the big difference is that the old truck has lated 43 years and isn't quitting anytime soon, and that new Ford won't make it past 20, if it makes it there in the first place
“Take your pick”. Highboy all day everyday
The 74' would be way better off-road. Look at that clearance. Saw a brand new Chevy 1500 the other day with a front chin spoiler that literally hangs about 6 inches from the ground. Why have a truck if you can't go offroad? Anyone agree?
for sure.
the only Chevy you can actually go off-roading in is the Colorado ZR2 because it has no chin spoiler
seriously with those chin spoilers the approach angle is worse than a Lamborghini
NG Shenanigans I would take any 1960-1980's GMC/Chevy or Ford or my solid axle 1984 Toyota 4x4 over anything new.
Believe it or not when I pulled
My f250s chin spoiler I lost 1mpg. They are on there to improve mpg. What's even more interesting is behind my chin spoiler where 2 metal brackets that hung down just below it. I thought they were for a plow hookup, but I believe they were to prevent the truck from going over the top of a vehicle in a accident. Had I not pulled them and the chin spoiler the truck would have barely been able to do anything off road.
White Master Mariner
this attitude amazes me.
If im gonna go out and spend house money on a stupid pickup truck (trust me, i never will),
im gonna get my money's worth.....
that truck is gonna get beat to effing death and it better last for that kind of money.
Cracks me up to see people spend that kond of money on something and then buy a beater to work in because they dont want to hurt thier 70k pissing contest vehicle....lol
You mean a big hunk of aluminum and plastic. That new truck is for you city boys.
Big hunk of safety. Earns 5 stars on NHTSA crash tests. Also big hunk of features. Most luxury in a truck ever. Way more than GM, and don't even get me started with Dodge. I may be a ford fanboy but this is an unbiased opinion.
city boys can tow way more than any other
Bill Cornett the aluminium serive body on my truck is 35 years old on my 96 f250. the aluminium will outlast anything on the truck.
All the hate for aluminum. Guess all the city boys don't realize that Paccar (who builds Kenworth and Peterbilt) have had aluminum cabs as standard equipment as well as aluminum frame rail options since the 1960's!!!! Not exactly anything new.
CaddyPro'59 computerized plastic crap that will out last anything from the 70s. most american cars from the 70s were in the scrapyard before the end of the 80s lol. most just rusted in half or engine blew at 70k miles
Hands down I would take the 74 over that overpriced 2017
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@@TheOne_p ?
What idiot would choose a truck that old over the new one
@@TheOne_p clearly "this idiot" :) Cheers!
Yep can't get the new one to mud or get it used for a work truck
Wow you drop the tailgate with the key fob? Does it come with tampons too?
2NDSIDE i dont understand all this hate. Whats really wrong with technology😂
Flying G Dollars Gaming Based on the comments I've read, everybody thinks that the added technology in the new truck is just extra money to spend of they happen to break.
More expensive shit to break right after the warranty ends. KISS--keep it simple, stupid. If you can't look out the window to see where you are going or open the tailgate yourself, take the bus and have your stuff delivered.
I have an older truck and I wish it didn't have power windows. The motors always go out and it's not cheap. It's not like it's hard to crank the windows
2NDSIDE says the one with a new mustang as Thursday profile pick
for me the 1974 truck is much better
That interior brings back memories. My uncle had a 1976 F250 with a 460. He let me drive it on a dirt road when I was 13 or 14. The interior and gauges looked similar for many years on Ford pickups. Not to mention the fact a lot of them are around and still being used is a testament to how durable they are. The problem with all the luxury features is that it's just more stuff to go wrong. Once they get so old it's not worth fixing. Look at say a 2003 BMW 7 Series, they're worth like $3500 now
There's no way on earth that new ford is going to last 43 years..
when I was younger my family had a 79 F150 it was so cool. I loved it so much would love to have another. The 70s is my favorite decade for Ford trucks
The 17 will be lucky to be in the road in 10 years. Vehicles in the day were built to last. Now they are made to be driven then replaced engineered to fail.
They are not designed to fail or anything like that. Regulations and taxation have forced manufacturers in America to keep using cheaper and cheaper materials so that they can make money.
In the 1960s an American car such as a Buick would be as good as a Mercedes but cost about a third of the price fast forward today and that is not the case.
Properly maintained vehicles will last much longer than 60s and 70s vehicles. I have an 04 with 250k miles and other than tires brakes and hoses I haven't done anything. In the 70s once you hit 100k the engine was toast.
Long term reliability has increased dramatically in the last 40 years. Manufacturing tolerances are so good now that it's very possible to run an original engine and transmission over 500,000 miles (many make it over a million)
Regulation and taxation? You have no clue what you are talking about. It is called a global economic market. Foreign parts, foreign labor, foreign manufacturers make the cost of doing business harder, not regulation and taxation. Things were taxed at a far greater rate in the 1960s than today. Regulations have also allowed us not to have far safer vehicles, and vehicles that get far better gas mileage (oh the horror of being safer and using less gas). Please read books and critically think before you spout off.
@@matthewbeeler3354 I agree 100%.
the old f250 will always be better looking
Zergling Amen Brother.
Zergling amen
that_green 4.6
Zergling Always. Old cars will always look better.
Vr
76k is insane
reddirt780
It is. The price the car companies charge is outrageous. The price keeps going up, but the factory warranty has not improved much. In a few years that diesel will need new injectors that will cost a couple thousand bucks each to replace. The owner will be crying about the high price of the repair work, while figuring out how to make the truck payment for that month. The Ford dealer will be the only one happy in that scenario.
osp80
It doesn't really cost the car companies much more to build a truck than a car, however the retail price for trucks is inflated to almost twice the price of a car.
you can blame pop country making all the city boys wanna be truck driving cowboys for that lmao
Agreed. Heck an F150 can get over $60,000 with enough options
I had a 1976 F150 short box. It had the 351 M in it, automatic, and posi front and rear. Where others feared to drive, we would go churning and burning. It was a beast off road and got about 12mpg.
To avoid damage to the 1974 front axle, first turn the wheel hub handles to the lock position, and then shift into 4 wheel drive... After the hubs are locked, moving the truck backwards in reverse gear a few feet will usually make it easier to shift into 4 wheel drive...
Why don't trucks have vented windows anymore?
Not much need for them. Vent window's are from a time when most vehicles didn't come with air conditioning, so the vented window design acted as a makeshift A/C at speed. Pretty much everything comes standard with air conditioning now though, so there's not much need for them. Though, personally I always thought they looked great and added an extra element of style to any vehicle they were on.
Nathan McDonald ah that makes sense and I agree those windows were cool
Wolfghost729 I miss the vented windows perfect for having a blunt on the way to work cuz all the smoke goes right out the truck lol
Wolfghost729 my 96 f250 still has it use it almost every day
Jonathan Dittmar that's one of my favorite generations nice!! And that was the very last year they had those and my dad has a 97 uses it every day too runs great
I would take the ‘74 hands down.
There is a factor that wasn’t really mentioned in the video, and it’s that so many vehicles in the 60’s and 70’s were just FUN. They had personality. They had soul.
Most vehicles now do almost everything for you, are totally predictable and pedantic, and most are even painted somewhere on a scale between black and white. No thanks.
I love the new trucks because of all the upgrades, conveniences and the looks. I have a 73 F-250, which my Son and I love it to death. I love it because my dad and I fixed it up when I was 12. He was planning to give it to me after I finished U.S. Air Force technical school in 2005, but he waited until 2014 when I had my son. I am now 32 yrs old, and my almost 4 yr old is in love with trucks, especially His 1973 F250 Truck. A father cannot be more proud than having a son wait for him to show up at the door after work, and having hm point to the window......only to point at the truck that your father gave to you. I will tell you, it's the best feeling in the world. I love that truck and the memories I had with my dad fixing it. When my dad stops by and my son will talk about it, I look at my dad and I can tell there's a look of accomplishment.
That's great
That brings tears to my eyes, I wish my dad was still around.
What has changed?
A truck you could fix on the side of the road with some basic Mechanical knowledge, to a truck that if it breaks down will be thousands of dollars and highly unlikely fixable by "The average Joe". ........Also, the steering box changed from the 70's, you don't have a full turn in the steering wheel before it catches now.......
I will always drive older dodges for that exact reason
That new Ford you have to take the cab off to work on the motor. The old Ford you could sit under the hood and work on the motor
Shit, I'm having that issue with my newer car; granted you have code readers, the issue is down to parts.
Restoring my 68 coupe is already cheaper than the 2012 Nissan Versa I have in terms of repairs. Additionally I cannot easily fix issues like my blower motor for the heater as a great example. And living in Alaska a heater is a must. So having that issue in the Nissan really sucks.
Honestly I will probably sell the car and get myself more money to fix the Caddie and make it hold better traction in the Alaskan winters.
My 96 you still have a whole turn before the wheels move lol
Steel Panther You are right!
Why would people ruin manual trucks by converting it to an automatic
Mustang Bullitt nah
@Mustang Bullitt I'm an American and I can and do drive twin stick transmission vehicles. Converting a standard to an automatic is a sin as far as I'm concerned.
It's so the wife can drive it, after the divorce. But in all seriousness, most people don't "want to be bothered" with shifting. But I will be honest, I have been in a lot of shitty traffic with a manual, and that was not fun either. Not to mention when your stopped going uphill and the person behind ya pulls right up to your rear bumper....
Automatic is better, most likely.
Will I ended up with a sucky Mazda 5or2 manual transmission, that's why.
You put a gasser up against a diesel.... the test should have been a 7.3 vs the 6.7
Clayton Bigs 7.3 would win
Only fair test of old vs new I have seen on this channel was the 2016 Denali vs older Silverado because they both had the 6.6 duramax and believe it or not the older Silverado did just as good with towing as the Denali, granted, the only thing I find better about newer trucks than older trucks is the exhaust brake, it's like a Jake brake for your pickup and it helps prevent you from eating up your brakes so much when towing
Hell the 6.0 is better than the 6.7
Dear TFL if you have the ear of anyone in the truck industry, tell them we would really like to see the comeback of simplicity. If they bring back the ranger or like the canyon already out, strip all the fancy electronics, bench seats, crank Windows, simple engines and transmissions that don't take a Ph.D. To work on. I know there are many benefits and efficiencies that have been added along the years, but give us some basic work trucks and cut the price in half, they are just so expensive and fancy, we just don't need all the luxuries. Some of us want luxury and we pay for it when we want it, but some of us don't. I understand there are cab and chassis trucks out there that are essentially what I am talking about, but they could prolly take it a little further and price them a little lower
You can still buy those trucks. A baseline F250 XL plus 4X4 goes for about $35,000.00
Ken MacMillan 35 is too high. Worth about 25.
I agree. They're way overpriced.
DEVUNK88 I really hope you know their not gunna listen to one annoyed guy on UA-cam, the industry has changed and their not gunna go back to the old junk things have changed
DEVUNK88 I agree, I will never be able to afford these new trucks, besides I wouldn't want one, they're too damn ugly! I would rather have my 1984 solid front axle 4x4 Toyota. Although I want to put a 1964 Buick 300 cubic inch V-8 in it! Tractors have gone back to simpler designed farm tractors without all the computer junk on them. Why can't trucks?! A manual transmission, hydraulics with an actual lever, etc. What's wrong with a carburator?! Lol! Between Echo, Stihl and Husqvarna/Jonsered, only Echo hasn't yet introduced at least one chainsaw with a computerized carburator on a chainsaw. Husqvarna/Jonsered and Stihl have, yet Echo usually gets better fuel economy from there chainsaws, they might not have as much power though. Now as far as weedeaters, I would take an Echo weedeater every time.
The older ones are the ones that were made to last and...much EASIER to work on!
now in days they build them to break, and they add so much plastic on new trucks like plastic bumpers? ew if u ram into anything your going to total the 50-thousand-dollar piece of junky plastic
@BL Dontmatter yuh fr
Old trucks are the best to me 🔥🔥🔥
When did we get so lazy that we need a motor to open the tailgate or extend the mirrors.
Curt D Nobody got lazy, it's just the car companies shoving technologies down our throats to achieve better profit margins.
100% correct, Calvin.
Calvin Farrow yeah its called planned obsolescences all electronic device's break down then your stuck going back to Ford to get ripped of at the dealer having them fix the broken electronic sensors.
Curt D Its planned obsolescence all electronic device's break down then your stuck going back to Ford to get ripped of at the dealer having them fix the electronics if you need a tailgate to open on its own why are you even driving a pick-up those old Ford's were tough like there owner's were back in the day.
Its so the vehicles can be more expensive
Screw paying $76k for a truck you can buy a house for that much. It just boggles my mind why anyone would spend that much on a vehicle. If I was in that wage bracket, I would not be buying a truck.
There is much cheaper 2018 model options than the one in this video, this one was expensive because it's top of the line, you can get one that doesn't have all the fancy gadgets for way cheaper, it's not a set price for all trucks
Damn, what kind of shittie outhouse do live in to think $76,000 is what you pay for homes.
Over here in Tennessee you can get a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom home for about 80,000$, so 76,000$ seems reasonable.
@@TheFuzzyCreeper ford sells and F series every 39 seconds. Thats probably about as fast as people are leaving that area, which equals a cheap ass market.
@@Carlos-pi1xj in texas you can a get 3 bedroom a 2 bathroom for around 70_90k
Tommy, you're the best presenter on this channel. Keep up the good work. Also really like the videos with the older Chevy and Ford trucks. Much more unique than just reviewing new trucks all the time.
Real men drive with no seat belt, no air bag, no headrest and a gas tank in the cab with them.
Cypher791 so real men are massive dumbasses?
you will understand when you are older.. =]
Cypher791
You’re right but you can get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt.
My F250 doesn't even have seat belts lol it's a 1966 and yeah the gas tank is right behind the seat. I can't get a ticket for no seatbelts though it's old enough to be exempt from that.
Luis Llorens If the vehicle comes stock with no seatbelt then you can't get a ticket for it
You know, at least you can work on a 1974 without running into electronics. You can fix an old truck just fine if you know what you’re doing. But on a newer model, they’re much harder to fix because computers make it harder to tinker around with.
Not to mention that they assemble them in a much less user friendly arrangement.
6 cyl or 360? what about the 351/390/400/460 etc?
Andrew J. thank you! I don't know where they get this information from. My 73 has a 390fe.
Andrew J. According to the research I did the Highboys (meaning 4x4 models) only came in the big six or a 360 V8. Multiple sources I found mentioned specifically a 390 was not available on 4X4 models. 2 wheel drive 250's were available with TONS of different engines -Tommy
Andrew J. the 351 and 400 were on newer fords. 390 was never with 4wd and 460 not until 1980s.
TFLnow that's why I like my 88 more than the high boys. I have a 4x4 and a 460 from factory
high boy doesn't mean 4x4 highboys had different options from factory like 4.10 gears and divorced t case I used to have a 78 400 f250 so again I don't know where these people get there info from
Lets see that 2017 even run in 43 years.
Electronics will go wonky after 4.3 years haha
Jeremy H. Maybe not since its all electronic inside all electronics will break down eventually.
The ECM or ECU ? will get updates until it becomes outdated,and no “factory” replacement made any longer so now that fancy piece of glitter is obsolete unless the aftermarket hopefully comes to the rescue. Oh hay the dealer will take it in on a trade for a new or next to new shiny do-dad even though it can’t be repaired,(wink wink). Aww the new economy, “SUSTAINABLE GROWTH”, yes sir sustainability. $$$
bullshit
Jeremy H. More like 5 years lol
Which one can carry a 4x8 sheet of anything again ?.......
the old one
lol in 43 years that new truck wont run you most likely wont be able to get parts. They are designed to be disposable. I really dont think anyone is going to be replacing the infotainment stuff in the dash after it goes out in 20 years.
that 43 year old truck has probably had its cost put back into it 10 times.
I doubt it.
20 years? You're really pushing it.
The computers dying will have economically written off the new truck in less than 20 years let alone 43!
hopefully there will be retrofits for new touch screens in about 10 years once the current touchscreens get obsolete
True, but what I meant was the plethora of computers and sensors controlling the engine and gearbox etc. Having just had my van off the road for nearly 2 weeks whilst very competent mechanics tried to repair the damn thing due to the computer indicating faults when in fact it was several sensors giving false readings!!
I suspect that whereas cars of yesteryear were scrapped when the rust became too much modern cars are economically scrapped due to electronics which the amateur DiY guy cannot fix due to the expense of test equipment etc.
MegAndJas I certainly understand your concern, but there are a lot of OBD 1 cars on the road with the original ECM and working just fine.
_"but there are a lot of OBD 1 cars on the road with the original ECM and working just fine."_
Lot less stuff to break on an OBD I car, isn't there? The probability of ALL of it working, is a function of 1) how many electronic systems it contains, and 2) the total number of systems.
Oh jeeze......that 2017 Super Duty is just a 4 wheel drive Lincoln!
the old ones are better because they still offer a manual transmission. that's how you pull a big load.
I really hate that Ford doesn't even have manual transmission as an option anymore. I've never driven a truck that's automatic and I don't really want one so therefore I'll never buy a new ford unless they reintroduce that option. My 1966 F250 is still going strong though so I'll keep her for now :)
even with most of the old trucks the automatics were rated to tow more that the standards where are you getting your info? ever hear of a torque converter??? just stating the facts I also prefer standards my truck and most of my vehicle are standard but the new autos pull some seriously heavy loads. loads that took semis to pull back in the day
Me and pretty much everyone I know prefer manual for towing. You just get a lot better control overall. Not sure about the actual tow ratings but I feel that manual is superior in most ways when it comes to pulling heavy loads.
thats not true at all
its frame / design of truck / engine in combination that determines how big of a load you pull
P A Most people would agree manual is better for pulling heavy loads. It's nice not blowing your transmission up. Also it's nice not losing your brakes in a hilly area. Using an automatic forces you to ride the brakes when going down a hill instead of going down in a lower gear.
Why the hell are you comparing a ritzed up luxury diesel quad cab to a tired old single cab gas truck? Why are you not comparing to a similar standard cab gas truck? They had extended cab and 4-door models and higher end trim packages in the 70's too, you know. The reasons people buy different trucks in different decades are many, but I thought you were comparing trucks, not people's buying trends as well. I realize the reasons for going with these to make it easier for the audience to identify with the vehicles, and for the chance to drive something really nice, but it sure does undermine the perspective of the results, in my opinion.
Aaron Goodall
Had a 1972 F250 long bed, Floor board rotted through in some places and could see the road but I loved that thing. I'll take the old school.
I'm a ford guy but that new f250 look gay
who the hell need a sun roof on a truck
I bought a 2014 F250 after selling my 1978 F250.... big mistake
Them Luke Brian idolizing afraid to get their hands dirty yuppies.
Sell that god awful Aztek and put the money toward the 74. Please.
HerrPoopschitz Hell yeah! 👍👍👍👍
HerrPoopschitz Aztek is best car ever
Max416188 they are shitty
I love the 76 high boy and would love to have one.I also love how easy it is to work on the older trucks as well.
Wtf? He says "ill just back up the old fashion way"... what??? You mean like the only way lmao. These guys would do better telling us about sofas or travel insurance.
Dillon Gilbert he means looking behind the truck instead of a camera
Grandpa towed a semi with his 78 2wd f250🤷🏻♂️
I love my 69 F250 and would love a new ford pickup but I ain’t gonna pay 60k plus for a truck.
TheRed58Fury1 The XL models are the base models for about 20 grand base work truck.
Nice.
Lol that guy was worried about the gas tank? Do you realize how much frame is behind you? The problem is when gas tanks are placed right in the rear, like the jeeps did, and burst open when someone hits you from behind - spilling onto electric parts and hot muffler.
I mean cars have the gas tank under the back seat, you can just lift the back seat up to change the fuel pump.
If you get hit hard enough to crush the rear seat tank you are already dead
or...you know...side impact
Who buys a vehicle for their crash ratings....
@@lazykbarranchoutdoors4866 ✋
Only thing that would make me nervous is the fact that I smoke cigarettes, and even then I'd probably still be lighting up, unless of course I fought a wiff of gasoline coming fr ok m behind me lol
If it cost $70,000, is it really a truck?
MyassesDragon Yes.
Big rigs are a quarter million and up and they are "real trucks" lol
MyassesDragon You will spend that much on the old 1974 truck because its constantly falling apart because of its age.
charger master Good lord no you wont lol. You don't have a clue what you're talking about
charger master there is not way that its gonna add up to 70k you my sir are dumb a rebuild kit for instance is only 400$ on up then the truck will drive for another 200k miles
Pat Back if it's old it'll fall apart, if it's old it'll fall apart from hard use, if it's old gas will be expensive as shit to
The older stuff were built to last. That’s why I love the 1990 Ford Ranger that my grandfather gave me despite it being a older vehicle than I am. I have put a lot of money into it over the years to keep it going but it has make me more that enough cash to cover the cost over the years because of how much I’m able to use it for.
i can buy a house with good property by the time i get that thing paid off itll be ragged out lol
Matt Robertson thats how they get you man. So in a couple years when its beat up and almost paid off you trade it in for the new model and keep doing that over an over lol
you need to learn how to take care your shit then i have 2008 still looks brand new
mustang 2017 if it looks brand new you probably don't need a truck to begin with. my trucks bed looks like bacon and every new dent I get doesn't bother me a bit. when work needs to be done you get it done. I broke my mirror off 2 days ago pulling out my tractor that I got stuck in the mud and didn't thinks twice about it. it's a truck! all I care about is the drivetrain. now my Chrysler 300c on the other hand... ah who am I kidding it looks like bacon too I used it as a truck before I bought my truck. it tows shit great. vehicles are tools to me and are treated as such. I have the money and the know how to maintain them so I don't feel be abusing them. probably shouldn't do as I do if you care how things look I'm coming to realize now I wasted my time typing this... cheers
Some of this is incorrect. There were ALOT of engine options for these trucks. 6cyl-8. 351?-360-390-400-460c.u.i
you forgot the 429 i thonk and the i6 300
In 74 you could get the f250 4X4 with a 6 cylinder or a 360 v8 with a 4 speed or a 390 with an automatic transmission the other engines were not available in the 4X4s the 150 had coil spring front ends
390 and 460 were never available in 4x4 from 73-79
Brendan Buck 390 was available with an automatic
I bought a new one in 1975 & ordered a new one in 1977 they had a mid year change when mine came in it had a married trans case , different frame & a 400 the older ones had a narrower frame that is why the tank was in the cab you could get a rear plastic in frame tank for auxiliary like the 1 tons
That 74 is the definition of a truck. Made for the working man
Do they make that new truck for guys too?
Roy Jones Yeah, it's called find a 1996 and older Ford, before the F-150 became butt ugly!
gimme the ol Truck i can work on and put my wet dog in. merica
Rory McCorny Lol! 👍
I HATE that step tailgate. Pieces fall off during regular abuse.
I had a 1973 F-250, a 1977 F-150, a 1979 F-250, still have a 1988 F-150 that we bought brand new, and now have a 2019 F-350 that we bought brand new.
The 2019 will do more than the others combined.
However my favorite is the 1979 - Ford really made that one look just right.
If Ford remade the 1979, I would be first in line.
That King Ranch won't last 43 years.
Depends on how it's treated.
@@kylesoler4139 if its treated like like a truck youll be
found
on
road
dead
Hasn't been out for 43 years yet
Probably one of the dumbest comparisons I have seen. The new truck has more power, more technology, and is easier to live with every day? Who would have thought?
David Dauphinee but new trucks will never beat old trucks just the power on it and the horse.... And the torque!
It has a bunch of stupid pussified features that will make the truck last way less time and also make it cost an insane amount of money. Also they are not built even close to as strong.
My 89 year old grandpa really likes the step up into the truck bed as well as the handle. Those are nice features they added.
So many guys giving the new Super Duty so much crap, I have a feeling it's because they can't afford one. Personally I love seeing the innovation that time has brought us.
Right? Like I appreciate old cars and trucks for how cool they are, but the innovation and tech in the past few decades is truly amazing. It's always fun seeing what new things car companies can do with cars.
Track Shark maybe its because people who use Pickups for real pick-up work can't afford a $70.000 sticker price you might as well buy a Dodge hellcat if your going to spend $70.000 on a pick-up.
Cameron Murrill Its because real people that use pickups to make a living can't afford $70.000 that sticker price is for a person who is CEO or an athlete not a construction worker a carpenter a brick layer or scrap collector what a joke pickups have turned to and if your saying people need a electric tail gate to open why are you driving a pickup those old pickups needed to be tough to do real jobs as a construction worker carpenter or brick layer or scrap collector.
"With everything great that comes new, something else is lost"
this definitely applies to this case. The engine and transmission (in the 2017) are extremely long lasting, gas-friendly and powerful compared to the old technology, but it is completely surrounded by a pile of overengineered circuitry, plastic and unneeded luxuries. It's the equivalent of having gigantic balls but a tiny dick.
oh and p.s., you're right, I cannot afford $80,000 for a truck that will be impossible to find various electronic components for in 15 years. I'd rather put $60,000 into a house that's a fixer-upper, put $10,000 into it, and $10,000 towards a excellent condition older, more simple vehicle that doesn't require a doctor in engineering to diagnose and work on it.
Charger master, totally agree. These vehicles are for people with alot of throw-away money to buy that will have alot of throw-away money in 10 years to pay for the astronomical diagnosis and repair bills the vehicles will be destined for. Older vehicles had computer modules for the essential parts (engine, transmission, abs, cruise, etc) Now, there are literally 10s of dozens of un-needed modules on the new vehicles. There are actually modules for the goddam gloveboxes in these things.
Beautiful truck! Great job Ford! I'm happy that now Ford builds their own Diesel engines and they did it rite.
Crew cab Ford F-Series trucks actually came out in the 1960's. Before that, they were converted that way by coach-builders. The SuperCab came out in 1974, which for those who don't know is the 2-Door extended cab that's half the size of the crew cab. Camper Specials were introduced in the 1960's too.
I would rather have my dad's 1971 F100, who was a WWII vet by the way, than the 76K truck. Old school all the way.
Weird flex but ok
I own a 1978 f250 4x4 400 with mild cam 750 demon carb. 4inch lift flatbed my daily driver. I drive 400 miles a week.
I got a 1979 ford f150 whit a 400 they are good engines
@Hahodi d my went thorough hell hi take my muding
I own no car with no engine and no brakes, 0 inch lift and stay at home all day
@@thehumancrumb.668
Because you're a waste of resources and you should feel bad
@@biggiemediumz 😂
Actually this truck had a few more engine variations than he listed .
It had:
240L6 - 3.9L
300L6 - 4.9L
302V8 - 5.0L
360V8 - 5.9L
390V8 - 6.4L
460V8 - 7.5L
I know, because 20 years ago I had a F250 camper special (1974) and it came with the 390. What a beast.
I miss the old floor headlight dimmer switch.
Valdr Skeggjoar don’t forget the vent windows!
the new one jumps out of timing (cam/crank) around 100k
Hands down those old Fords were the toughest 4 wheel drive ever built, new one can't compete
A local construction company bought two new F-350s, they're super nice and look like spaceships. But less than a thousand miles and one has been sent twice already for major repairs (like pulling the motor). Think they were around $85,000 apiece.
Why did the company go for so much? A base model would have been much cheaper for construction work, the best option I can see for construction if you're getting brand new is one that is 4x4 with a diesel and a towing package because the towing package come with an exhaust brake, In case they haul skid steers on them that exhaust brake helps slow the truck down, other than that you're just making them personal
@@Dunki113 cause employees now days will will only work for a company with expensive trucks to ride around in.
@@SgtJoeSmith yeah, it's pretty stupid what some people will do for a job, I remember a driver told us he would work for less money if we got a peterbilt for him to drive, not even a good one either
@@Dunki113 I pay $40 an hour if they drive their own truck. $20 an hour to drive one my 90s f150s, rangers, 5.7l Chevy 1500s. All nice and good shape. Have own auto shop to maintain them. They make $9 to $12 an hour riding in the other guys new f250s or f350s that he's making payments on. So I'm giving what would be my truck payments to someone else to buy and own their own truck. They rather work for other guys
@@Dunki113 that company has money for new trucks and fancy office so I can become a manager.
No son that company is $2 million in the red and a rainy day away from lay offs or bankruptcy. I however got money in da bank to start teaching you to be a manager now and buy you a truck to keep
But you your old truck will always get more valuable if take care of it and it always be more fun :)
Wish I still had my 79 F-250 4x4. What a great truck!
What’s logical about spending more on a truck than my house
I take 1974 any time any place over plastic and computer from 2017 who needs this ?
Edward j j it's not plastic
Not plastic. There's a reason why new trucks have crumple zones.
I have a 74 Highboy. There’s nothing like it. Got the modern stuff too but you can’t beat the Highboy for getting back to being in touch with driving.
You don't need a camera to back up unless you have no vision to the back window.
Not to mention it makes hooking up a trailer by yourself a piece of cake.
difference is that 74 is still here 43 years after its birth will that 2017? most likly not due to costs to fix it and the tons of obsolete electronic parts
Jr Schomaker yup all that computer junk under the hood will be a fortune to repair when it goes bad
Govt is or soon will be mandating backup cameras on all vehicles. 😢
1: They already are required on all passenger vehicles. 2: Why are backup cameras a bad thing? They are amazing things to have.
This is just more evidence that cars really looked better before 1975. I want the square, not the round lemon.
James Marquis I know right, everything looks the same nowdays.
I also liked the box shape look more
Me and my grandfather use a 1981 F-250 with a metal bed for farm work and hauling wood.
The thing drives like a tank and I love it. I wouldn't trade it for a new one. I hope to keep it in the family for years to come. I personally want to do some body work and make it look new.
Forgot something ease of repair
Also wing windows are the best don't know why there not a thing anymore
That new truck won't last very long they are disposable engines and body parts are soda can thin.
@Hahodi d and turbos that cost 3 of those 74s to replace
yeah, my Father has a "75 and '15. we used to haul tractor tires to get repaired in the box of the '75 and we'd scratch the paint. We hauled one wheel in the '15 and by the time we got to the repair shope the box side was dented all to hell.
I had a '72 F250, Camper Special, 428CID bolted up to C6 trans and it was built for haulin' the mail, it got 8/MPG around town but 18 on the highway. It had factory disc brakes up front drums in the back, dealer installed A/C, I installed M/FM/Cassette stereo...one of the last real trucks. It was as good as any new truck, as far as performance. When gas got to be $4.00/gallon, here in Northern Nevada, I sold it to a guy in Connecticut to add to his car collection; sometimes I miss it.
The old F250 is as cool as fck!