Roland VAD 306 First Impressions

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  • @tfin-ch7ql
    @tfin-ch7ql 4 роки тому +37

    3:58 that guy just pissed me off. Like how disrespectful

  • @anneklarenbeek2718
    @anneklarenbeek2718 4 роки тому +28

    I played both the TD-17DVX and the VAD306 in a store last week. I found the screws and knobs on the snare annoying on the TD-17. Just like on my TD-1, that plastic rim gets in the way and reduces the playing zone. I also like that the VAD has no frame. The TD-17 is rather wobbly, which for me is a showstopper at that price. With the VAD using proper stands, it's a winner.

  • @mattshobbies
    @mattshobbies 3 роки тому +19

    I just bought a Strike Pro SE, it had HH controller issues, and a DOA HH pad. I reached out to Alesis and they had A 3 MONTH BACKORDER on those parts. Sweetwater graciously took the whole set back and I'm getting the VAD306 to replace it.

    • @jasonhubbard7409
      @jasonhubbard7409 2 роки тому +3

      Any update on how you like the Roland set?

    • @tronlady1
      @tronlady1 2 роки тому

      The sound, features and look of the strike pro, DTX8 and the efnote 3x are WAY better than this. Ridiculous for the money 😖

  • @jamesbritt4637
    @jamesbritt4637 3 роки тому +22

    I'm a new drummer and bought this kit. I don't have any experience to compare it with but I really love it. Lots of fun and sounds fantastic! I wanted Roland because of their reputation for durability and it was a tough decision between this and the TD17 KVX. For me, it was worth the extra money for the acoustic look, sweet chrome stands, and the larger pads without the plastic rings inside. I think this kit will be more than enough for me to learn on and enjoy for many years.

    • @RacinJason
      @RacinJason 3 роки тому +1

      How loud is the kick drum? Can you hear it in other rooms? I hear it's quite a bit louder than the TD17.

    • @jamesbritt4637
      @jamesbritt4637 3 роки тому +3

      @@RacinJason I downloaded the sound meter app on my android phone. Room seemed around 40 dBA average. Loudly snapping my fingers a foot and a half away from the phone in my other hand ran it up to about 85 dBA. Playing the kick drum with the phone in my hand took it up to 89 dBA. So similar level of sound but the kick put more vibration through the floor that may carry. Hope that helps. I couldn't justify buying a quality sound meter to test it. I could record playing it and post a vid if you'd like.

    • @RacinJason
      @RacinJason 3 роки тому +2

      @@jamesbritt4637 Thanks for the info Jim! I ended up buying the TD17.

  • @FubukiCards
    @FubukiCards 4 роки тому +25

    I decided. I’m gonna wait till May and get this kit! The main reason for me is the fact that it fits in my bedroom and looks amazing!!

    • @samjburns07
      @samjburns07 4 роки тому +3

      any updates?

    • @e8tballz
      @e8tballz 4 роки тому +6

      We all thought May would be nice.

    • @FubukiCards
      @FubukiCards 4 роки тому +1

      @@TeakTeakchannel In May I heard it was going to be delayed until September... So I ended up buying the drum-tec Jam NG kit! It's an amazing kit that is comparable to this one :D

  • @GR3G0
    @GR3G0 4 роки тому +27

    I really don't care about the new super expensive Roland kit BUT I REALLY ENJOY WATCHING ALL YOUR VIDEOS 😁

    • @rhythm-t3023
      @rhythm-t3023 4 роки тому +4

      I agree with you brother!! 👍👍

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  4 роки тому +5

      Thanks dude! I try to make videos interesting even for the people watching aren't going to buy it :D

  • @65Drums
    @65Drums  4 роки тому +21

    Edit: the floor tom is 12 inches across, that was an error in the video. And this version of the td17 comes with a few more kits internally.

    • @jasonweidman2614
      @jasonweidman2614 4 роки тому +1

      Was going to leave that comment, but you already corrected! And I totally agree. They should at least do two 13" cymbals for crashes and a 15" for ride. The 13" ride is fine on TD17 and TD25 with smaller drums, but doesnt deep right on a kit with 12" and 10" toms

    • @jasongodfrey2139
      @jasongodfrey2139 4 роки тому +1

      I need your help I've searched and can't find anything I have a Alesis command X I want to use the 4th tom to hook up ride so I can use the bell sound on it is there a cymbal I can use

    • @jasongodfrey2139
      @jasongodfrey2139 4 роки тому +1

      Sorry a dual zone cymbal

    • @georgevillarose3517
      @georgevillarose3517 4 роки тому

      Great and helpful review Justin! Although there is a big gap of $700 difference between this and the TD17, don't you think there is some value in that the heads don't have that annoying plastic rim and the kick drum not only looks nicer but is more solid (I think you said that?). I know those factors alone may not rationalize the extra $700 but was wondering if you think there is some value in that? Also, have you heard any additional feedback on the Alesis Pro SE, in terms of people having or not having problems with it? I am deciding between the VAD 306 or the Alesis. Really like the Alesis, I continue to question the durability. Thanks!

    • @udiakuka7889
      @udiakuka7889 4 роки тому

      Also you were wrong when you said the kits for the ATV cost money... There are paid sounds for the aD5, but the kits for the xD3 are free, and now you can even build your own kit there, again, for free

  • @danieldekel8268
    @danieldekel8268 3 роки тому +4

    I am acoustic drummer. i have found the 306 to be perfect for me. the look add a lot to overall experience, the drum pad is large enough and sound is much better than this demo probably because i am using full acoustic mode. the 17kvx is one level below this drum set and has much less pad area to play on. it is not comparable. try them and you will probably agree with me

  • @ayputs6772
    @ayputs6772 4 роки тому +6

    Justin, you do the best drum reviews on YT! Always great, informative insight covering even the subtle points that drummers care about. Keep it up!

  • @sadistyk_1671
    @sadistyk_1671 4 роки тому +3

    Great video as always. I believe the purpose of this drumset is honestly 1. space saving and 2. positioning/configurations
    -This drumset is one of the first that is not on a rack. Most edrums must be affixed to a rack with components that within on or the spaces around the rack. The VAD's hit hat and bass drum stand alone, but you can do more with where you want your toms and with the boom mounts your cymbals. The look is cleaner and you have the ability to have a smaller footprint, unlike the larger 5series kit.
    Undoubtedly, some drummers will want the rack and don't mind the footprint, especially for gigging and live performances. If that were the case, the Alesis or VAD503/506 would be the way to go. They're huge.
    I definitely agree with your point about the cymbal sizes. They are quite small, but I figure Roland couldn't give you as much for the price point. Finally, I do see this as an upgrade to the TD-17kvs. You don't get the plastic inner liner and the cymbal mounted toms are nicer indeed!

  • @quietdrummer5531
    @quietdrummer5531 4 роки тому +1

    Definitely agree that this kit needs a bigger ride. Sat down at a TD17 KVX and the TD 27KV the other day, and the ride adds so much to the playability and overall appearance of the kit.

  • @ADrowning
    @ADrowning 3 роки тому +1

    I appreciate the thorough break down. Exactly what I was looking for. Straight to the point no bias and other options explained.

  • @alistairhomewood7344
    @alistairhomewood7344 4 роки тому +50

    I just don't get how they can seriously put a snare that large with a tiny ride cymbal, it just doesn't look good

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому +10

      I like it, an 18 inch e-ride is not logical to me, I use a few inches of the cymbal and the the bell, the rest is useless. The only reason real rides are so big is because they have to be for the sound. But most of that surface is never touched. Not a fan of giant planks of plastic, I enjoy the response of smaller pads and cymbals a lot.

    • @PEP.
      @PEP. 4 роки тому +2

      @@evankeal yeah but the 18" ride looks so much nicer - at least they could have put a 15" CY15R on this set

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому

      @@PEP. Some would agree. One other thing I eventually figured out is that I can get the sweet spot and the bell exactly where I want them with the smaller size, an 18 would never have allowed this for obvious reasons.

    • @PEP.
      @PEP. 4 роки тому

      @@evankeal true, true

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому

      @@PEP. Although a bigger bell would be nice

  • @FubukiCards
    @FubukiCards 4 роки тому +5

    I love the look of this drum kit!!

  • @fuchsia5899
    @fuchsia5899 4 роки тому +3

    “Maybe I should do a vs video with all the drum sets in this price range”
    YESSS!

    • @danielledispaltro4728
      @danielledispaltro4728 3 роки тому

      Can you include the TD-27?

    • @fuchsia5899
      @fuchsia5899 3 роки тому

      @@danielledispaltro4728 it’s a quote from the video, he was asking should I do a vs video

  • @scotteg
    @scotteg Рік тому

    Great review, thanks! I recognized the beat you played starting at 6:45 as an ensemble warmup from my days in drum & bugle corps.

  • @alanfurlong-drummer4419
    @alanfurlong-drummer4419 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for an excellent review from an older drummer 65 looking at my options. Very very helpful.

  • @Glurbschnurb
    @Glurbschnurb 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for these impression videos on the new tech. Something new and cool always comes around right after I invest in something! Those toms will be a nice upgrade for my td17kvx. I see you are closing in on 65k subscribers by the way!

  • @stikkman61
    @stikkman61 2 роки тому +2

    Roland needs to update this entry level VAD kit w a TD-27 module, digital snare, hats and ride. It would be a perfect kit for $3500 👏

  • @joshferry3628
    @joshferry3628 4 роки тому +2

    I own the TD-17 Module on a converted accoustic with ATV cymbals and a VH-11 HH. I can tell you I do like the TD-17. It is not a toy. I have drum-tec sound package and V-expressions sound package. I also own SD3. I am finding myself using the Drum-Tec sound package because I like what they did with it. I think it is much stronger than V-expressions. But to my point the TD-17 you will get very fast with. It's a good module the stock sounds are so so though.

    • @joealex2463
      @joealex2463 4 роки тому

      Which drum tech sound package are you using?

    • @joshferry3628
      @joshferry3628 4 роки тому

      @@joealex2463 The "Real Acoustic" one. It is the one they sell with their TD-17's. But they sell the download now. Here is the link. www.drum-tec.com/real-acoustics-sound-edition-roland-td-17-download

  • @pacmanlp8876
    @pacmanlp8876 4 роки тому +9

    Back on the 90's there was a sound module called ddrum. It had 1000 levels of dinamics. That was the only electronic module that you could play on and sounded almost like a real drum. I think some major company like Roland or Yamaha bought the patent and destroyed the idea, because all electronic modules and kits since that sounds like crap to me.

    • @JJ-SGE
      @JJ-SGE 4 роки тому

      pacman lp if I recall correctly, it was called ddrum 4 and it really was great. It can still be found used.
      I think it was not the patent that was bought by a different company but rather the name and budget e-drums have been produced under that brand. Now they focus on pads and triggers...
      However, and that’s the good „news“ for you, the guys that were behind ddrum originally are now producing and selling e-drums under the bend „2box“. Their Module are awesome!

    • @gregthegroove
      @gregthegroove 4 роки тому

      Check out the Pearl Mimic Pro. THe samples are Slate drums 5 and has a lot dynamics and it sounds fantastic. I use this module on my drum channel.

    • @marierich6875
      @marierich6875 4 роки тому

      The drum company that was formerly ddrum for the electronics is now the folks behind 2Box Drums. They produce the Drumit 5 which is a great electronic drum kit and now they specialize in mainly modules. The Drumit 5 has the most realistic drum sounds of any kit in my opinion and they were doing downloadable expansion sounds and sampling for their kit way before the other companies. They are out of Sweden and mainly popular in Europe and were not available in the US until Tama's parent company started distribution of this kit in the US.

  • @RefRMart10
    @RefRMart10 7 місяців тому

    For my price range. This is the kit I will be purchasing. The strike pro se seems to just have too many problems for me that I don’t want to potentially deal with. The TD27 and vad506 is what I want but I can’t afford, too expensive. The TD17 isn’t big enough for me.

  • @lanceh4653
    @lanceh4653 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this video. I bought a Simmons SD1200 last year and want to upgrade. I'm retiring and need a drum set to use in our RV. It will need to be taken up and down a lot and I have low confidence in the 1200's hardware. Way too much plastic for regular tear down and set up. I'll have to take a second look at the strike set now after listening to this. I am using a Roland kick pad and I was impressed that it feels like a piece of professional gear. That's what sent me down the Roland road.

  • @rez6541
    @rez6541 4 роки тому +8

    Roland should've given you the td27 module without the digital snare or ride with this kit. This way you have some options to upgrade later and spend more money. Having the td17, while it's a good module, makes no sense here.

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому +1

      I agree and bought the 27 for it, no interest at all in the larger and digital pads.

    • @danielledispaltro4728
      @danielledispaltro4728 3 роки тому

      Hey there! I’m deciding between the 306 and the 27 and was wondering if you think the 27 was worth the price difference. It would be a big stretch for me!

    • @rez6541
      @rez6541 3 роки тому +2

      @@danielledispaltro4728 -The 306 is a great kit, no need to stretch yourself. The best part about roland is you can always upgrade the module or pads when you're ready.

    • @danielledispaltro4728
      @danielledispaltro4728 3 роки тому

      @@rez6541 Thank you for your feedback! I just now saw your response and I already purchased the TD-27. It will be delivered in the next few days. Hopefully I love it. If not I'll return it. Maybe I'll get the 306 if the bass drum bothers me on the TD-27, OR... my new fixation is the ATV artist series kit with the TD-17 or TD-27 module or maybe the ATV module it comes with. Do you have any thoughts on that kit? Seems like it would give me the acoustic looking/ feeling / sounding kit I want with room to grow. I just discovered ATV last week. Thanks again for your comment! :)

    • @rez6541
      @rez6541 3 роки тому

      @@danielledispaltro4728 -No doubt you'll enjoy the td27. Personally besides looking much nicer I find playing acoustic size bass drums better feeling. ATV makes great edrums I don't think you'd be disappointed at all. Check out EFnote as well they're a new company that sprung from ATV.

  • @tremaynevial3949
    @tremaynevial3949 4 роки тому +10

    This might sound like a silly question but are these loud without headphones? Do they have an acoustic sound to them without headphones. Just asking because of the design! They look really cool! Just don't want to upset my neighbors!

    • @TeakTeakchannel
      @TeakTeakchannel 3 роки тому +4

      sorry i didn’t see this sooner. i own the vad306 and all the pads sound the same as other roland pads (except for the kick). the kick is actually about twice or three times as loud as the normal kick tower. for reference, it sounds a bit like an empty plastic trash can. if you’ve never heard a roland pad before, it sounds about as loud as hitting a cardboard box with your hand. they won’t sound silent, but they are definitely 1000x quieter than an acoustic.
      to answer your question, no they don’t sound much louder than other roland pads. the acoustic design won’t affect the actual sound of them except for the kick.

    • @steveperrin3300
      @steveperrin3300 2 роки тому +1

      @@TeakTeakchannel thanks for answering this question. This was my main concern living in close quarters with sensitive neighbors.

  • @jamescarter1518
    @jamescarter1518 4 роки тому +4

    Here's a question for you. Toward the end of the video, you said some thing like "Just know that you're buying this for cosmetic reasons. You're not getting a drum set that is drastically better than the TD 17 KVX." But there are a couple other things that I think add a lot of value. The toms don't have those cheap plastic rings, you get a bigger floor tom, and the kick drum is a lot sturdier. Do you think those factors, along with cosmetic reasons, make this one worth the extra $700?
    I haven't touched an electronic kit since 1999, so I don't know how big of a hassle those plastic rings are, but I know you have said yourself that they are extremely annoying.
    I mostly plan on using this kit as a midi controller for GetGoodDrums, so the sounds in the module aren't that big a deal to me.

    • @brennancolbert3594
      @brennancolbert3594 4 роки тому

      I just pre-ordered one. I'll try to post a video of my impressions when it arrives.
      I, too, use VSTs and don't really need to rely on the sounds in the module.

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому

      You also get a lot more flexibility since there is no rack. 700 bucks well worth it, 1500 would be worth it.

  • @ghoulchaser1
    @ghoulchaser1 4 роки тому +4

    Hey Justin, love the info you provide and the format it’s in. I could use a little input. Been playing over 30 years, no longer gig but still love jammin. Love my old TD9KX2 but have this 306 kit on reserve. For a few dollars more a month I could get the 506, is it worth it for jamming and practicing my chops? Thank you!

  • @kosta1605
    @kosta1605 4 роки тому +5

    I almost went with this kit but the module and the ride cymbal is what made me stay away. If you just spend a little more money the td27kv is really a nice buy. My only complaint about this module are the tom sounds, that is literally my only complaint. I haven't even tried layering yet which I will do soon. I think its worth to save up a bit more money and pass up the VAD 306. While it looks nice, its just not worth the money.

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому +1

      For $500 over a TD27-KV, I got the VAD306 and the TD27 Module. I gain a $1200 kick trigger, a stand based kit and in the 'I dont know if it's better at all' category are the toms, these are never before released and still not yet delivered by Roland to any dealer.
      You lose the digital snare and ride. I actually dont want anything to do with the ride for its size and the snare for its size and weight. Someday when everything is digital and not real sized, I have 3 open ports to add future products into.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Рік тому

      I would just sell the 13" ride new out of the box and buy a used cy15 which is a big improvement.

  • @clsosa74
    @clsosa74 4 роки тому +4

    For a church setting, what would you prefer? I have been playing acoustic drums for a very long time but speaking with other drummers I have been noticing that they are going to E-Drums for the sound control.

    • @planetdog1641
      @planetdog1641 4 роки тому

      I use hot rods for church performances.and they are perfect, much quieter. e kits just don't have the right dynamics...leave those to apartment drummers.

  • @seanmcrey
    @seanmcrey 3 роки тому +2

    Bro please make A comparison video on the 306 and 506

  • @djpsychic
    @djpsychic 4 роки тому +3

    Yes please do a (in-depth) comparison EUR 2000-2500 for Q1 2020. I recon td27kv , td17kvx , (vad306?) , strike pro se and exs-5.

  • @ZaxDrumsandMore
    @ZaxDrumsandMore 4 роки тому +2

    Cool review and I like how you compared it to the Alesis and ATV kits!!

  •  4 роки тому +11

    What drum do you recommend, the VAD306 vs TD-27KV?

  • @Tom-sd2vi
    @Tom-sd2vi 8 місяців тому

    Playing this kit reminded me of the td-30k.
    I don't really get why most reviewers consider this kit a bad value and suggest the TD-17KVX. This kit has plenty of serious upgrades that make is much better than de 17KVX:
    - Bigger tom and snare pads with a much superior trigger system
    - A bassdrum with some weight that actually stays in place instead of that floppy kickdrum tower
    - A set of proper hardware instead of the MDS-compact drumrack which is way to small and of poor quality
    The only thing I think is a mistake with this kit is that the crashes and especially the ride is to small in my opinion.
    If i was shopping for a Roland kit and anything with a TD-27 was over budget, I'd prefer this set over the 17KVX by a large margin.

  • @adamsteele4987
    @adamsteele4987 2 роки тому +1

    In the UK I can get a VAD306 for £250 extra than a 17 Kvx, worth the extra money?

  • @stephenpetrikowski
    @stephenpetrikowski 4 роки тому +4

    Didn't they release 10 new kits that are included in the td17 module when you buy this drum set?

  • @steveperrin3300
    @steveperrin3300 2 роки тому +2

    can you use a double bass pedal on this set?

  • @guilhem8052
    @guilhem8052 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Justin!! Love your videos and your content! One little question for you : does the depth of the shells really impact the playing feal of an electronic drumset??

  • @tronlady1
    @tronlady1 2 роки тому

    Well that’s this one crossed off my list! now torn between The EFNOTE 3X, strike pro and DTX8

  • @andrewstradley8365
    @andrewstradley8365 4 роки тому

    Roland clearly has the 3rd best mentioned her. ATV has the highest quality pads and decent sizes(ya ya the sounds the module..VSTs are cheap and the best sound options anyway) .The strike has the most powerful module and biggest sizes (cymbal pad quality the only thing lacking). IMO no drummer will benifit from this kit. You nailed it when you said the TD17kvx is basically the same just a little smaller pads(same cymbals).
    However!!!!! the TD27KV seems to be the best kit at it's price and well worth the extra $500 to get the Digital pads. Hard to believe anyone would buy any of these kits around 2500 when an extra 500 gets you the 27KV... Unless it's someone who downplays the digital pads.

  • @shamicentertainment1262
    @shamicentertainment1262 4 роки тому +2

    I just don't know whether to get this, the alesis strike pro se, or the roland VAD506. For looks, feel and the amount of stuff you get for the price I'd definitely choose the alesis, but I really want something that will last years. That's why I lean more toward roland, but then I'm stuck between the 306 and 506. I hate the small cymbals of the 306, but it still looks good and it's almost half the price of the 506, is there much of a difference between the two roland models?. Plus i hate the roland sounds, they are just so cheap sounding. Is it easy enough to connect superior drummer to all these ekits?

  • @harpapmac
    @harpapmac 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video in 5 days my TD-17KVX is coming..!! Yeahhh.. I enjoy watching your videos keep them coming

    • @themamat
      @themamat 4 роки тому +1

      Congrats!! I also get that one year back. That thing is a beast!!

    • @charlesa6142
      @charlesa6142 4 роки тому +1

      harpapmac you won’t regret getting this kit. I’ve hard it for about 5 months now and I love it!

    • @harpapmac
      @harpapmac 4 роки тому

      Thanks guys, I have a td-9 since 2009 and only last year it started having issues with the hh pedal and the crash.. They are beasts, they deliver and they last.. Also I want to download the drum-tec upgrade I hear a lot of good words and it's about 40 or 35 euros for TD-17KVX..

    • @Glurbschnurb
      @Glurbschnurb 4 роки тому +2

      @@harpapmac The drum-tec sounds did not impress me. I bought the metal one and it sounds very synthetic and less dynamic than the built in patches. I recommend hooking it up to a computer with superior drummer and you'll see the set really shine. I barely use the module at all after getting superior drummer 3.

  • @sauly99
    @sauly99 3 роки тому

    very nice details, I'm considering the vad 306 over the strike pro, more for quieter gigging and also the seemingly quicker breakdown ability..either way, your info's helpful!

  • @jamesmichelis1667
    @jamesmichelis1667 4 роки тому +6

    Hey Justin, love the video... I'm torn between the vad306, strike pro se, and td27kvx... I know the td27kvx is 500 bucks more, but the digital snare and ride look too good to pass up.

    • @Wollestar
      @Wollestar 4 роки тому +2

      Even though I am not Justin, but maybe I can help out a little as well.
      At this point I would go for the TD27 if you can afford it. The digital snare and ride, plus the sizes of the snare and ride are simply worth it. I own the TD17 module and within the next year or so, the TD27 will definetly find its way to my home, together with the digital snare and ride. But I don´t use the internal sounds of the module since I trigger ezdrummer 2. So if you would prefer to use sounds that come with the module, probably alesis is better for you.
      What I always can recomend is to test the kits in a music store. That has helped me a lot with decisions in the past.

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому

      @@Wollestar music stores in my area rarely have kits anymore. Certainly no more than one of any brand.

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 4 роки тому +1

      I gave the 506, 306 and 27 a hard look. The rack and kick of the 27 didnt work for me. I also dont really want the digital snare or ride sizes, and the added features of those are just not something I need, I suppose if I played jazz but until then no thanks. Just wasted space for myself, I enjoy smaller size pads a lot more. The only reason real drum and cymbal sizes are what they are is because they have to he for the sound, they were never sized that way for playability. The 506 is just a real sized kit, that did not interest me at all.
      I went 306 with a 27 module.

  • @aaron22bernards
    @aaron22bernards 2 роки тому

    Would you say it’s a better bang for your buck go get the 306 with superior drummer than the 27kv?
    What packs do you recommend buying in superior drummer for quality record quality kits? Thanks!

  • @heckler73
    @heckler73 4 роки тому +1

    Still love my 2Box Drumit3 🤪🤪🤪
    But that thin Roland cymbal is very interesting. How does it compare against the ATV cymbals?

  • @james9269-8n
    @james9269-8n Рік тому

    Thanks, Justin that really helped me. It's hard to buy something your looking at on line. Those were the 2 kits I've been looking at. The Alesis Strike looks great but it comes down to what the module can do.

    • @daytonwilson4504
      @daytonwilson4504 Рік тому

      I'm in the same boat. Which one did you pick?

    • @james9269-8n
      @james9269-8n Рік тому +1

      @@daytonwilson4504 I'm sticking with my Yamaha gear. I need to spend more time with the manual. The last thing I need is another drum kit cause, space.

  • @robertgates7012
    @robertgates7012 4 роки тому +2

    I just joined your page! Thanks! I haven't found a review pitting the VAD306 with the Alesis Strike Pro SE. Have you done one? Thanks!

    • @robertgates7012
      @robertgates7012 4 роки тому

      Never mind! I didn't wade into your video far enough!!!!

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  4 роки тому

      thanks for watching all the way through!

  • @timothybrannigan
    @timothybrannigan 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for another great video!
    Trying to choose the right e-drum kit is so difficult! I personally don’t think the price of a professional e-kit should exceed the price of a great acoustic set. I’m trying very hard to find the right kit for around $3k. It’s been exhausting and I need to have a new kit right now. At this point, I’m very frustrated.
    On a different subject, I’d like to make a request of you, if I may. Could you possibly play a bit of your demos with softer dynamics? I might be alone on this, but I would find it very helpful.
    Thanks again for the video! I appreciate your work!
    Best wishes - Tim

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 4 роки тому +1

      Used Roland equipment in good shape is worth taking a look at. Their pads are very durable.

  • @NickBauman
    @NickBauman 4 роки тому +5

    Just looked it up snare and floor tom are 12 inch pads

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  4 роки тому +4

      You are correct, sorry about the mistake

  • @ian3371
    @ian3371 4 роки тому +3

    This video was really helpful. But, If you had to choose one kit between Alesis Strike Pro SE or this kit which would you choose? I mean, it comes down to opinion and all that but which would you rather own?

  • @thejaydrummer
    @thejaydrummer 2 роки тому

    I'm upgrading from the old td25 to this. Worried about the difference in module.
    Is that td17 decent compared to the td17 module?
    Have you done a video comparing modules?
    Thank you for the content!

  • @alanfurlong-drummer4419
    @alanfurlong-drummer4419 4 роки тому

    A really helpful and informative review thank you so very much.

  • @seanmcrey
    @seanmcrey 3 роки тому

    I really want 506 but need to see if I can get away with 306 and price of that rather than 506

  • @michaelbrown3128
    @michaelbrown3128 2 роки тому

    Which is better kit roland vad 306, or the ATV EXS 5, in your opinion?

  • @harrykP9
    @harrykP9 4 роки тому +2

    I love the idea of buying kits for your module. I have mostly had Roland Modules and do like the stylized sound, but there are so many shit kits. 50 kits! I like 10. Some are OK and the rest I hate. I wish I could opt out of the 808, 909, the weak hex electronic, afro, world and most percussion kits. I wish it were easier to group kits. I hate that similar kits are six clicks away from each other. I love Roland, but I'm open to change.

    • @onomatopoeidia
      @onomatopoeidia 4 роки тому

      harrykP9 why not create your own and then Simply copy/exchange them to the first 10 slots so all your faves are in a line next to each other? While you are at it, load your fave samples and create your own. The presets are mere starting points but no one knows what you like best...it’s personal.

  • @astronaut2005drummer
    @astronaut2005drummer 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice drum kit!

  • @marksmith8290
    @marksmith8290 4 роки тому +3

    Would this set be good for home recording studio? Am new drummer and is there much noise with this set.

    • @Cantor214
      @Cantor214 4 роки тому +2

      Seems like the bass drum would be a deal breaker for an apartment setting.

    • @quietdrummer5531
      @quietdrummer5531 4 роки тому +1

      @@Cantor214 The kick tower is pretty noisy, depends if you're in a house or apartment.

  • @swagpanda9359
    @swagpanda9359 4 роки тому +5

    How would this compare to the Drum Tec Jam series with the td-17??

    • @rockylee9832
      @rockylee9832 4 роки тому +3

      I own a Jam series with a TD-17 and without having played this Roland one, I would imagine the Jam series is better. Full sizes, bass drum feels awesome and doesn't move around at all like this one does in this video. It triggers flawlessly with the TD-17. They are probably pretty similar kits though

    • @markomarkovic5729
      @markomarkovic5729 4 роки тому +3

      @@rockylee9832 And on top of that, Drum-Tec gives you Live Sound Edition

    • @timothybrannigan
      @timothybrannigan 4 роки тому +1

      Rocky Lee, I’m looking at the ATV ESX-5 kit with their sound module. I’m only going to be using it to trigger software like Superior Drummer 3.

  • @MegaVince09
    @MegaVince09 4 роки тому

    If survived 65 drums try out I know is sturdy... One question, how do you like Roland new single cymbal hi hat?

  • @sethcouey701
    @sethcouey701 3 роки тому +1

    Can you rim-click on the snare? I'm having a hell of a time finding this answer...

  • @fVNzO
    @fVNzO 4 роки тому

    I think most of what makes the TD-27/50 sound so much better than the 17 is the inclusion of positional sensing. The sounds themselves are still terrible in the higher end modules but they do at least change a little everytime you hit the pads. That alone makes a huge difference. It's really quite jarring listening to the 17 after having listened to the other two.

  • @jonhoffpauir8105
    @jonhoffpauir8105 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the great video. I’m trying to decide which way to go to get the best brain and best drums (low lat., great triggering...) I play live so I want a good look too. I think I have decided to get the pearl mimic pro. What is the best set and best cymbals to go with it? Thanks!

  • @SchwappSchwopp
    @SchwappSchwopp 3 роки тому

    Are the triggers centre or side mounted on this pads and how good is the quality compared to other roland pads?

  • @davidblackman3127
    @davidblackman3127 4 роки тому +1

    I wish the floor tom and kick drum were 2 or 3 inches deeper. Purely for aesthetic purposes

    • @sadistyk_1671
      @sadistyk_1671 4 роки тому

      they have two full sized acoustic sets for more $

  • @EdNorcrossMusic
    @EdNorcrossMusic 4 роки тому

    justin, i was stuck between the vad306 and strike pro se. can we get a vs. video? which do you prefer?

  • @mjddrums
    @mjddrums 4 роки тому +1

    Love the kit. My TD11 sounds better with the custom settings, though. I'm sure you can tweak it. Love your channel!

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 3 роки тому

      The TD11 through TD30 chronologically, which includes the TD1, have far superior sounds. I also have the TD17 and TD27, they dont have the same acoustic sounds at all, in fact all the acoustic Tom's sound the same, and while there is a mind boggling amount of things to tweak, it's still just one or two sounds, vs the TD1 which cor instance has 15 different tom sounds, all with very unique and useable characteristics. Unless they change something, vintage Roland modules will take over the market demand.

  • @shamspage
    @shamspage 3 роки тому

    Also if I was going to use a VAD306 to record an album, with the plan of using either Steven Slate or Superior. Would there be any drop in dynamic quality to using that kit instead of say a be 506, 706 or a TD 50. Considering it uses the Roland Prismatic Sound Modelling engine ?

  • @DRUMZ4LIFE82
    @DRUMZ4LIFE82 2 роки тому

    Does the KVX support a double bass pedal? Is the pad large enough

  • @shamspage
    @shamspage 3 роки тому

    Hey man, I can see you say it doesn't have realistic sounds in the module. Can you get it to sound realistic if importing your own sounds?

  • @chumpvoodoo
    @chumpvoodoo 3 роки тому

    The kvx is great but the toms are the thing that holds me... wanted to get the 306 but realistically like the video says it’s almost the same as the kvx bit with bigger toms

  • @JJ-SGE
    @JJ-SGE 4 роки тому

    Hi Justin, really enjoy all of your videos. Keep it up! Could you maybe elaborate a little further on the PDA tom and snare pads and particularly the differences to the PD-128 or 125. The PDA-120 snare for instance is almost half the price of the PD-128. I would assume it does not have positional sensing but also no hot spot. Would be very grateful. Thanks and regards from Germany

  • @PaulBirm
    @PaulBirm 4 роки тому

    Thanks For the review and insights

  • @udiakuka7889
    @udiakuka7889 4 роки тому

    Correction! What you said about ATV microtransactions is right for the aD5 module sounds (and even there you have a lot of free sounds), but for the xD3, all the kits in their site are free, and bow you can even build your own kit. Please correct yourself, its a bit of misguidence

  • @Lorredain
    @Lorredain 4 роки тому

    I have an alesis DM8 currently and was considering an upgrade to the first gen Strike Pro since it was on sale for nearly a thousand dollars off. But I don't know how long that will last and the Strike Pro SE is a significant improvement. Then I saw the VAD 306.
    Now I have to ask, is the difference in the way the drum, cymbal and most important the hihat triggers work enough to offset the smaller kit? Or is the Strike Pro getting closer to how Roland triggers work? The module isn't as important as I will more then likely be recording using Addictive Drums in my DAW

  • @rhythm-t3023
    @rhythm-t3023 4 роки тому

    I think that I would love to have that VAD 306 kit. It seems like it can do much more work than my Yamaha DD75 (I don't have nothing against it I still love my electric drums) it has that acoustic drums look and the cymbal pads hmm idk to me I might wanna go for the Zildjian Gen 16 cymbals. That just my thoughts!!

  • @seththomas3194
    @seththomas3194 4 роки тому

    The story of Roland continues. Big prices..not just drums, but keyboards...and others do and give more for less and that makes sense. Good review and honest as always. The ATV for their EXS line the micro prices do not apply They offer like 12 additional kits for free, just register your email and follow the instructions. Down side, there really is no customizing the kits/sounds, and there is no Drum-Tec support like there is with Roland modules to improve the standard garbage Roland stuff they give. So, ATV with a Roland 17 is ideal, best of all worlds. And why such small cymbals all the time with Roland?!?! One reason I stayed away from them, big prices, small heads/cymbals when there are alternatives that are better on the market.

  • @evankeal
    @evankeal 4 роки тому

    I love the sizes of everything on this kit. I would never want real cymbal sizes for plastic pads. The 13 inch ride is more than enough playing area. Adding a 27 module to this myself. I really cant see comparing the Alesis kit to this. Price is the same but that's it. Alesis would be great for bedroom use, but all the pros are playing Rolands.

  • @natehine8541
    @natehine8541 4 роки тому

    yes do that video ... please !!

  • @charlesthiccens
    @charlesthiccens 2 роки тому

    Is this model headphone friendly?

  • @ReignJeffersonCTria
    @ReignJeffersonCTria 4 роки тому

    Do you still recommend the td17kvx as a main kit for practice and gigs over this?

    • @ReignJeffersonCTria
      @ReignJeffersonCTria 4 роки тому

      It's not only about the sizes ans stage presence, i mean this is still a bit closer to an acoustic kit than the td17kvx... What are your thoughts? Are there other alternatives?

  • @nickgivent3157
    @nickgivent3157 4 роки тому +1

    I have the td-17, and I can say I love it!! My only complaint is that the ride is not triggered 360, and there is no "bell" on it. I can make the ride "bell" on the edge of the cybal, but it doesn't feel the same. Other than that... Awesome.

    • @Gr1Gr2Gr3
      @Gr1Gr2Gr3 4 роки тому

      pretty sure there is a bell on it. Maybe you hit it too softly? Justin said something about it being harder to trigger.

    • @nickgivent3157
      @nickgivent3157 4 роки тому

      @@Gr1Gr2Gr3 there is a vague bell shape, but it's not triggered. The cybal isn't even triggered 360.

    • @Gr1Gr2Gr3
      @Gr1Gr2Gr3 4 роки тому

      @@nickgivent3157 I guess you have a different version of TD 17. I originally assumed you were talking about the TD 17 KVX like everybody else. But year, non-KVX versions have a two-zone ride cymbal.

  • @lindonsiebel7008
    @lindonsiebel7008 3 роки тому

    how long these drum pads and triggers last?

  • @chipzo96
    @chipzo96 4 роки тому

    Hi, Would you know if when purchasing these drums if you have to separately purchase all of the stands and racking?

  • @miker5233
    @miker5233 4 роки тому +1

    Good set for vst

  • @AJ-hm7mu
    @AJ-hm7mu 4 роки тому

    how does the PDA120LS-BK compare to a PD-125?

  • @aetheria9871
    @aetheria9871 4 роки тому +1

    Hey does anyone know if a Simmons 3 zone ride will work with Roland td11 module?

  • @phox.2234
    @phox.2234 4 роки тому

    Nice video!

  • @gregwilliams2764
    @gregwilliams2764 4 роки тому

    A nd also I’d plug my SD3 program it any way . Need to upgrade to bigger ride. I love thrv506 shells. But with the SD3 I can save half the money and buy a strike speaker

  • @markomarko4570
    @markomarko4570 3 роки тому

    Anyone thinking about this set with pearl mimic or alesis strike module instead td17? No digital pads, no positional sensing ideal for those two modules. That would be perfect small drum set with acustic look and brutal sounds. Is there anywhere to buy vad306 withot module?

  • @MajorOSC
    @MajorOSC 4 роки тому

    Is the VAD lineup less bouncy than the TD17KVX? My biggest gripe with Roland, and the reason I've never bought a roland, is that their pads are WAY too springy for me. The Strike Pro SE is really tempting but I'm just thinking there's something better coming in the next year. But if the VAD series has better feel, I'd be ready to buy. Anyone care to comment on the feel of the heads on the VAD?

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  4 роки тому

      It's the same mesh heads. Shells don't make a difference. You can buy thicker mesh heads though, you don't have to use what comes on the drums

    • @MajorOSC
      @MajorOSC 4 роки тому

      @@65Drums what heads feel the best or feel less springy?

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  4 роки тому

      @@MajorOSC Look into 3ply mesh heads. What I use is Drumtec Real Feel heads. They have the exact same rebound as acoustic heads.

    • @MajorOSC
      @MajorOSC 4 роки тому

      @@65Drums awesome. Thanks 👍

  • @moojii4woo
    @moojii4woo 3 роки тому

    Can anyone tell
    Me the footprint of these drums.

  • @billycrocker3362
    @billycrocker3362 2 роки тому

    My apologies if this was covered in the video. I'm on the fence between the Alesis Strike Pro SE and the Roland VAD 306. There seems to be a lot of pros and cons with each. I will ask though, is the Roland TD 17 expandable? Can you add more pads/cymbals if desired? Also, can you upload other samples / sounds to the TD17? I definitely welcome any comments and advice.

  • @ProbeGT2
    @ProbeGT2 Рік тому

    Me "hum, who's ATV?"
    "...... Microtransactions....."
    "Fuck that atv company."

  • @karumahstudios2215
    @karumahstudios2215 4 роки тому +1

    you remind me of my music teacher

  • @johnfulton2672
    @johnfulton2672 4 роки тому

    Good info

  • @rahinuddinrahin1964
    @rahinuddinrahin1964 3 роки тому

    Nice sound from malaysia

  • @Brinoctopus
    @Brinoctopus 4 роки тому

    Yep.

  • @mariarosso3890
    @mariarosso3890 4 роки тому

    Hi Justin¡ I Have a question from Buenos Aires. Do you know some e drum kit+module with 80s (synth sound) Not identical, means similar or close to this..You'll laugh¡ most similar that i founded is Roland HDS 3 semi-toy with coup a bank with high and dense snare and kick some plastic, but well.. is the idea -Synthetic- Linn, Simmons inexpenssive Haa¡ ..so Maybe not is your genre/style Is just you got so much info on this instrument. The project is postpunk very experimental range. I like manny bands from these sounds. Help me Pleassse¡¡ First demo goes there¡ Cheers. and sorry my writing. Bye.

  • @NickBauman
    @NickBauman 4 роки тому

    The floor tom is 12 inch actually I think isn,t it

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  4 роки тому

      You are correct, sorry about the mistake

    • @NickBauman
      @NickBauman 4 роки тому

      @@65Drums hey no problem your channel is great.cheers.