To be honest i hate the fact the Gigabyte downsized the PCB quality for all of the Aorus "Pro" series from 8-layer low loss to just 6-layer mid loss which will hurt stable DDR5 speeds. You were right eventually since Gigabyte has just released the X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7 which is the exact same motherboard as this in every single way just with a bit of PCB recolor and a bit different heatsink.
@@shusui9665 i would get the msi x870 tomahawk, its 8-layer low loss with a beefy vrm and redesigned bios and the price is pretty good compared to most of the x870/x870e lineup
Thanks for the review. Regarding usb 4 display port output, does it require drivers to output video on the screen, meaning you can't use it until it's fully configured and it won't work on unsupport os? Or the drivers are required only for the usb4 data connection?
Wow, that thing about the PCI lanes was an eye-opener for me... with the box of this same motherboard right behind me at the moment :( OK... 3 SSDs to get in that motherboard, should I return this Gigabyte and try an Asus Prime P or TUF Gaming board? They *seem* to share M2 lanes with SATA connectivity, only one M2 port sharing with PCIx16 4.0 as far as I understand. I feel cheated... Thank you A LOT for your clarifying video. In 2024, to need a blueprint of the motherboard in order to realize how to install simple M2 storage feels like these brands want to avenge something or whatever.
I would avoid asus motherboards. If you want many m.2 get a x670e board, they are now cheaper. Most have 2 CPU M.2 + 2 Chipset M.2 and they do not cut GPU lanes.
I’m trying mate. But here where I live the x670e and x870e Gigabytes are up in the sky, price-wise 😢 and yeah, I’ve seen videos about the Asus-gate stuff (Nexus talking to their VP and so on!) which are really scary. But it’s awful here: one Aorus x670e is costing 2x an x670e Prime from Asus!! Since Europe has a 3-year warranty now, I will risk it. If it breaks…. I’ll go thru the hassle of customer support with them. Hope not. I have a b550 from Asus that is great, but they changed quality for am5 gen, which is a boomer. And forget MSI: never in my life (30 years with computers) I had a MoBo failing but my x570 tomahawk from MSI. I loved that brand… not anymore. Pray for me my friend. And once again, I’m so so thankful to you for the lanes info - it was everywhere but for me you were the first who explained it clearly. Do you have a Patreon or something? Btw, nice name! I’m a fan of Senna, so…
@@macporteiro It should work fine, the problem is not the warranty. I have no patrion but there is a donation alerts link in the discription, buut it is not required. Just glad I helped.
Great review, it was very clear. I have a question, I decided to take a look at the motherboards that interested me, and apparently here where I live the prices are basically the same, except for the new one, but which do you think would be the best option: B650E Aorus pro x / B650E Aorus master or the x670E Aorus master!?
@@ArtyomExplainsEng oh that cool and interesting. I’m building a new build rn and just need the mother board, should I just wait for the x870e boards then?
So, if I'm understanding correctly, this board's x16 slot is tied to the .m2 ports making those those useless seeing most people want to take full advantage of that x16 slot? That seems like a dealbreaker.
You have two m.2 slots that don't steal any lanes from the GPU, so question is if you use more than two m.2. Then, having 3 pcie 5.0 m.2, all connected directly to CPU, is not a deal breaker by any means.
Hello ! thanx for review , i just want to know when installing ssd m2 4x4.0 on cpu lane the first pci-e 16 5.0 became x8 but if the graphic card is pcie 16 4.0 it still pci-e 16x speed ? Thanx !
If you put anything in the bottom two 5.0 m.2 the GPU lanes will be cut to x8, the version does not matter, it will be x8 3.0 even if you put in a 3.0 GPU. The m.2 that is right next to the cpu will not cut down GPU lanes.
Hi, I have a question and I hope you can answer me. I have 3 M2 NVME 4.0 SSDs at the moment, if I occupy the first 5.0 slot at the top, a 4.0 m2 slot and exclude PCIe 4.0 x4 and only one slot of the two shared with the PCIe 5.0 16x I will still have the management of the PCIe 5.0 halved? thanks in advance for the reply :)
Very clear explanation, great video. Actually, this USB4 version of the B650E is already on sale in mainland China for around $300. I'm torn between this and the B650E Master. I want the USB4 functionality, but I can't figure out the practical benefits of 40Gbps USB4 compared to 20Gbps Gen2x2. The trade-off for USB4 is losing a direct CPU-connected M.2 SSD.
Thank you for your review after I have seen this I bought it in Germany for 286 Euro and I want to use a 7800x3d and a Aorus 4080 Super with one 2TB Nvme SSD I think it’s a good choice. A X670e Aorus Master board is in Germany round about 400 euros and I don‘t need that board I think.
@@IndigoSun-hz6cq yes I’m happy with this board 👍🏻 I don‘t miss anything and with a 7800x3d is a perfect choice. But if you want more SSD Nvme 2+ then I would buy another board because lane sharing
@@ArtyomExplainsEng No 5 GbE. Don't wanna add network card below GPU and block my upcoming thick RTX 5090 fans. B850E Aorus Master, Aorus Pro, Strix E, Strix F and Carbon will be better than the best X870 mobo now - Tomahawk - but will cost about the same. X870E too expensive.
Nothing to complain about.
Turns out it this is a X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 review. Nice.
That' great review. I'm looking forward to become widespread USB4.
To be honest i hate the fact the Gigabyte downsized the PCB quality for all of the Aorus "Pro" series from 8-layer low loss to just 6-layer mid loss which will hurt stable DDR5 speeds.
You were right eventually since Gigabyte has just released the X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7 which is the exact same motherboard as this in every single way just with a bit of PCB recolor and a bit different heatsink.
which one would you prefer? which board is not 6 layer so i need one which is good?
@@shusui9665 i would get the msi x870 tomahawk, its 8-layer low loss with a beefy vrm and redesigned bios and the price is pretty good compared to most of the x870/x870e lineup
@@kerotomas1 what do you mean by 8 lanes? is it the vrm like 7+1 ?
@@shusui9665 8 layers of printed circuit board (PCB) ..... the more the merrier
@R6ex thx very much
thanks for the great review, the arorus symbol has rbg controablle right?
Yes
@@ArtyomExplainsEng thanks
Thanks for the review. Regarding usb 4 display port output, does it require drivers to output video on the screen, meaning you can't use it until it's fully configured and it won't work on unsupport os?
Or the drivers are required only for the usb4 data connection?
Tho I did not test it, I can assume the drivers are required.
Wow, that thing about the PCI lanes was an eye-opener for me... with the box of this same motherboard right behind me at the moment :(
OK... 3 SSDs to get in that motherboard, should I return this Gigabyte and try an Asus Prime P or TUF Gaming board? They *seem* to share M2 lanes with SATA connectivity, only one M2 port sharing with PCIx16 4.0 as far as I understand.
I feel cheated...
Thank you A LOT for your clarifying video. In 2024, to need a blueprint of the motherboard in order to realize how to install simple M2 storage feels like these brands want to avenge something or whatever.
I would avoid asus motherboards. If you want many m.2 get a x670e board, they are now cheaper. Most have 2 CPU M.2 + 2 Chipset M.2 and they do not cut GPU lanes.
I’m trying mate. But here where I live the x670e and x870e Gigabytes are up in the sky, price-wise 😢 and yeah, I’ve seen videos about the Asus-gate stuff (Nexus talking to their VP and so on!) which are really scary. But it’s awful here: one Aorus x670e is costing 2x an x670e Prime from Asus!! Since Europe has a 3-year warranty now, I will risk it. If it breaks…. I’ll go thru the hassle of customer support with them. Hope not. I have a b550 from Asus that is great, but they changed quality for am5 gen, which is a boomer. And forget MSI: never in my life (30 years with computers) I had a MoBo failing but my x570 tomahawk from MSI. I loved that brand… not anymore.
Pray for me my friend. And once again, I’m so so thankful to you for the lanes info - it was everywhere but for me you were the first who explained it clearly. Do you have a Patreon or something?
Btw, nice name! I’m a fan of Senna, so…
@@macporteiro It should work fine, the problem is not the warranty. I have no patrion but there is a donation alerts link in the discription, buut it is not required. Just glad I helped.
Great review, it was very clear.
I have a question, I decided to take a look at the motherboards that interested me, and apparently here where I live the prices are basically the same, except for the new one, but which do you think would be the best option: B650E Aorus pro x / B650E Aorus master or the x670E Aorus master!?
If the price is the same - x670e master is the best choice
When is coming out? Is it available in the USA? Where can I buy this? Thank you I love your s
Content it helps alot
I don't know yet, my friend got this one in Taiwan, gave it to me for a review for 2 days. No info on release date yet.
@@ArtyomExplainsEng oh that cool and interesting. I’m building a new build rn and just need the mother board, should I just wait for the x870e boards then?
Only a month left, I would wait
@@ArtyomExplainsEng alr bet thank you dude, I love content it helps a lot
I Asked Gigabyte and the say its available inn germany end of july. I dont know hof it is in US
So, if I'm understanding correctly, this board's x16 slot is tied to the .m2 ports making those those useless seeing most people want to take full advantage of that x16 slot? That seems like a dealbreaker.
You have two m.2 slots that don't steal any lanes from the GPU, so question is if you use more than two m.2. Then, having 3 pcie 5.0 m.2, all connected directly to CPU, is not a deal breaker by any means.
@@RaphaelZN2301 Ok. Thanks for clarifying. I don't suspect I'd have more than 2 M2 slots occupied so this is now less of a concert.
@@RaphaelZN2301 What are the two m.2 slots that dont steal any lanes for the GPU? The m.2 slot directly beneath the x16 GPU slot and whats the other ?
@@felix_z.0825 the slot 4.0 Obviously ahaha :)
Is the board thickness (6 instead of 8 layers) and the mediatek wifi chip really such a big problem from what I've heard? Is the wifi card replacable?
Pcb layers matter when you push your ram speeds. If you plan to just enable expo they don't matter much. Wi-fi adapter is fine, no need to replace it.
@@ArtyomExplainsEng just wanna run 6000mhz cl30. I heard from laptop users that the MediaTek MT7925 has some reliability issues.
Good review thanks
Hello ! thanx for review , i just want to know when installing ssd m2 4x4.0 on cpu lane the first pci-e 16 5.0 became x8 but if the graphic card is pcie 16 4.0 it still pci-e 16x speed ? Thanx !
If you put anything in the bottom two 5.0 m.2 the GPU lanes will be cut to x8, the version does not matter, it will be x8 3.0 even if you put in a 3.0 GPU. The m.2 that is right next to the cpu will not cut down GPU lanes.
Hi, I have a question and I hope you can answer me.
I have 3 M2 NVME 4.0 SSDs at the moment, if I occupy the first 5.0 slot at the top, a 4.0 m2 slot and exclude PCIe 4.0 x4 and only one slot of the two shared with the PCIe 5.0 16x I will still have the management of the PCIe 5.0 halved?
thanks in advance for the reply :)
Hi. If you put anything in one or both m.2 that share lanes with pci-e x16 it will work at x8 5.0
@@ArtyomExplainsEng okk thanks :)
Very clear explanation, great video. Actually, this USB4 version of the B650E is already on sale in mainland China for around $300. I'm torn between this and the B650E Master. I want the USB4 functionality, but I can't figure out the practical benefits of 40Gbps USB4 compared to 20Gbps Gen2x2. The trade-off for USB4 is losing a direct CPU-connected M.2 SSD.
Master is more of a m.2 5.0 fan board.
Thank you for your review after I have seen this I bought it in Germany for 286 Euro and I want to use a 7800x3d and a Aorus 4080 Super with one 2TB Nvme SSD I think it’s a good choice. A X670e Aorus Master board is in Germany round about 400 euros and I don‘t need that board I think.
Three weeks on, are you still happy with the board? In UK it's on sale for £257, I'm that close to buying.
@@IndigoSun-hz6cq yes I’m happy with this board 👍🏻 I don‘t miss anything and with a 7800x3d is a perfect choice. But if you want more SSD Nvme 2+ then I would buy another board because lane sharing
@@MTBFichtelhills Cheers. 2x NVME is all i need.
Get b650e taichi lite, only 220 usd.
@@ArtyomExplainsEng Cheers, looking now, good reviews on pcpp. Bit more expensive uk £270.
Hey how does this board compare to the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard im stuck between the two boards
This one is better in every possible way. The only thing is the pci-e lanes cut to x8 if more than 2 m.2 are used.
Waiting for B850E Aorus Master ....................
B650e = X870 now
@@ArtyomExplainsEng No 5 GbE. Don't wanna add network card below GPU and block my upcoming thick RTX 5090 fans. B850E Aorus Master, Aorus Pro, Strix E, Strix F and Carbon will be better than the best X870 mobo now - Tomahawk - but will cost about the same. X870E too expensive.
hi, EXPO is not working. Biod upgraded (f5a)
Elaborate "is not working"
AMD renaming B650E to X870 is dumb.
Good video though.
For an average consumer I guess it is a better name
Dude, you just saved me from buying this! Thank you
It's a good board, just not for everyone.
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This is basically a copy paste to x870. lmao
In my region, the 800 series motherboard price is yet to be known. And this thing is out of stock, even at fairly around $280.