Probably going to remake and reupload this what If soon. There are some things I wanna add, take out, and elaborate on to help curve some of these questions for you guys
Battle of Gods and the beginning of Dragon Ball Super would be quite different in this timeline. Remember, Beerus actually decided to destroy the earth because Buu took all the pudding, not because he couldn't find a super saiyan god. It was only after this that they offered to make it up to him by using the dragon balls to find a super saiyan god. If Buu isn't in this timeline, Beerus would have gotten his pudding and loved it, deciding not to destroy the planet because of all the great food. There would be no super saiyan God transformation because the threat would be gone so there would be no need to use the dragon balls. Beerus would be a bit embarrassed and annoyed about his dream being "false" though. Of course, it's possible that someone would still think of using the dragon balls to find out about super saiyan gods but even if they did the main threat of the story would be lost.
No I disagree that there would be absolutely no SSG in this timeline. Goku didn't decide to reach that form strictly out of a need to protect the planet he also wanted to get strong enough to fight Beerus (he does end up regreting how he reaches it) so I think he and Vegeta might still bribe Whis to train them and attain God Ki as Vegeta did . I think once Goku gets back to earth seeing Beerus was completely chilled out might try and push him into another match but would know he couldn't beat him still, I can see him either asking shenron to tell him how to become a SSG or asking Beerus to teach him which would be defeaulted to whis. If the former happens Beerus will want to fight as he's been looking for something interesting, if the latter Beerus may decide to fight Goku or Vegeta once seeing them get stronger through Whis. You are correct thought Battale of Gods would be different
@@PlusUltraMan I did mention that as a possibility though not in as much detail as you. After giving it some thought I agree, given Goku's nature, that this is the most likely scenario. I was more focused on how different the atmosphere would be without the threat of destruction.
...that's not entirely correct either. The strength gained is from the exercise exerted from climbing the tower and taking the bottle of the Super Holy Water from Korin.
I don't understand how Nappa and Raditz could be defeated by Cabba. You said they trained with Whis, meaning they likely has God Ki, and even if they don't, he should at this point have Super Saiyan 2 at least. So even if Cabba's base is equal to theirs (due to Cabba's base bein equal to Vegeta's and Vegeta being stronger so Raditz and Nappa should be around Vegeta's original base), Super Saiyan 2 should surpass Super Saiyan.
They got defeated because of plot honestly, I wasn't trying to spend a huge amount of time on the U6 tournament. Besides if they didn't get beat by Cabba then Hit would have ran through everyone so it isn't of huge consequence to me.
@@PlusUltraMan You just got a new sub my man, I really want this what if. And I'm glad there's a Dragon Ball youtuber who doesn't straight up hate on Vegeta
Really nice video dude and I just had TF2 flashbacks to During their training they run into bulma and her flirting with Trunks btw Goku losing his tail by trunks and not grandpa Gohan seems really funny cause I could just see trunks explaining the tail to him and then trunks slicing it off with his sword lol
Radditz said his meeting with goku the scouter must be broken, he wouldn't chill and join goku he was a giant ass hole the whole time and would probably try to usurp the leader spot from vegeta by tattling to frieza
wait im listening and you're talking about goku turning into a super saiyan and im just thinking can't trunks just find dr. gero and kill him? find the red ribbon army? use the dragon balls to find him? when Oolong is about to make his wish for underwear, trunks wishes to find dr. gero? too simple.
Trunks is also operating on the rule of not getting too involved with the time stream. Notice the only person he interacts with (on his first trip) is Goku. This is because the goal is to create a stronger Goku that still goes through his adventures while also having wide access to the heart medicine. He also instills a target on the RR Army so Goku doesn't show them much mercy. Remember on his first trip he is under the impression the timeline is linear and his actions could impact a lot of things in ways he doesn't want.
Didn't trunks find out who dr gero was in the original timeline when the wrong androids showed up? If he didn't go through that he wouldn't have known to go after gero
@@93Hexer Actually no. The Cell that comes back is from a separate timeline, which would be unaffected by Trunks's meddling due to multiverse theory. Also Gero might not have even survived in this timeline, meaning Lapis and Lazuli may have never been converted into Androids for Cell to power up on. It's also debatable if Cell would even wind up in this timeline to start with.
Very great what if man. Its a multiverse I'd love to see. It does suck that goku would lose the kioken but with a more serious goku, i feel hed would most definatly have a better handle of ui. You got a new subsciber in me buddy keep up the good work.
So this is a odd one ive been thinking of since the frieza saga what if goku convinced frieza to be good cause in the series there was a split second where he thought about what goku who had said but then squashed the thought like a bug but what if he didnt
It's definitely an interesting idea but I honestly think it's waaaay too far outside of Frieza's character to become good. In the TOP he has a clear reward and reason to work with Goku but any other time I think Frieza is always gonna be bad to the bone
@@PlusUltraMan true but i think it would play out similar to piccolo like he aint all the way good but hed keep it secret then train wait for some shit to go down switch sides then just kinda keep happening over and over and after being beaten so many times just gives up idk its all speculation and depends on actions and over events to take place but i think after he was beaten enoghe times hed have to just suck it up or use the dragon balls to make him self stronger in some way that makes him beat goku and the rest idk i see two ways it go either frezia would be entrested in the sayins and humans strength and would go with them and either hed slowly bond with them and lighten up or hed slowly gain their trust and when things like Android cell buu sagas came along hed try and pull some bullshit
I'm not sure what you mean but I like the reference. I can't say that Krillin wouldn't die to Tambourine, but I can say that after Kami begins to train I think he would be able to remove a lot of shenron's limits (I have absolutely no proof that he could become strong enough to affect seperate timelines but I know if he could do that he could revive someone multiple times) Good question though I probably should have elaboraed on this
@MVO Javari a sayin cant get a zenkai boost hurting themselves. Thata why vegeta had krillen shoot a hole in his chest on namak. However they totally can abuse it though lmao. Goku powers up to full power and just barley beats the ahit out of vegeta than senzu bean for vegeta than vegeta goes full power and beata the ahit out of goku he eats a senzu and repeat proccess. They would be waaaaaaaaaaay too op
@@aienma6660 yes! Like i get why they dont want to do it (getting near death don't sound very fun) but dragonballs are a thing so evwn if they do die....just like reserect ppls lol
You forgot that poor Krillin would die as a miserable lonely man who would never find the woman of his dreams and never have children if Trunks went back in time too far. He would have the worst fate ever, even considering how hot Android 18 is.
Honestly I hate this what if. I was so tired while trying to pump something this long out that there are so many errors and missing notes it just pisses me off but people really enjoy it
Yo tbh I kept skipping this because I thought it’d be stupid, and I was right in a different sense, it’s stupidly amazing, I love this what if because you actually explore and it fits so well
loved this! only thing is I disagree about the outcome of tournament of power. with kami instead of piccolo and no freiza,androids, or gohan.I just think this team would be overall weaker.5 fighters overall would be weaker.
@@ravatosthepro1323 she be little bit more reasonable and less crotchety when it comes to Goku and their boys defending Earth. Best of all she wouldn't be nagging at Goku to get a job.
@@ravatosthepro1323 I just think that's why she would be a nice goddess. Because she would have no reason to bitch and realistically wouldn't stop her own training.
Honestly, in this scenario, I think Goku would have bodied Freeza, even if he went into his final form; all without going SSJ. It would have been a fight, yes, but seeing as Freeza would have shown up to Earth, Goku would be able to see his first form, and by this point be able to see the depths of his power. Knowing this, I do believe Goku would just body him in his first form. This Goku is far more serious and cautious, so it would make sense he wouldn't risk anyone dying, and just take care of the issue before it became a problem. That's just my thoughts on this, but good concept for an alternate timeline for the series. :D
@@andrewrenshaw2741 That's true enough, but knowing Freeza, he would take vegeta's word with salt, and get cocky. Either way, he hadn't trained at this point yet, so I still think goku would body him. Not easily, but I think he would.
What if Goku's first Super Saiyan transformation occurred as a result of the Spirit Bomb? Premise: Freeza is struck by Gohan and Krillin distracting him from killing Piccolo. Childish spoiled emperor he is; Freeza would blow up Krillin then and there. Struck in the heart at his friend's death, Goku hurls the bomb only seconds earlier than originally. Thinking the bomb is headed for him Freeza fires at it, his attack is absorbed, same as his death ball originally was, he then realizes the ball is angled at Goku, and thinks he's lost his mind. Despite pleas from King Kai, Goku absorbs the ball and inadvertently triggers a transformation; he'd either be a low level Ascended Super Saiyan, or just a much stronger Super Saiyan 1. Scenario proper: A stronger Goku fights a relatively uninjured Freeza and Namek does not have a gaping hole for Freeza to fire his planet killer at. Would a less fatigued Freeza handle his full power form more aptly, or would he pose little challenge to Goku? How does this affect the return to earth and the fight with KC, if there is one? Cyborg Saga, etc...?
Nappa is getting older and starting to lean away from fighting( this is something I couldn't elaborate on in the video) Raditz would probably have a lot more interest in his family around this time as Goku and Vegeta continue to leap past him. Around the time they fight Cabba I wouldnt place either Nappa or Raditz at the base power of Vegeta during that tournament. Though afterwards I imagine theyd have some more motivation
I'm not so sure Gohan wouldn't train in this version since a more mature and powerful version of Goku would probably see Gohan's potential and would make Gohan train. As Goku would not have died at any point Gohan would have been much closer to his dad and would want to train with him to relate. Also I doubt Chichi would have had such a big issue with Gohan training because as I see it her biggest issue was wanting to have her kid stay safe after seeing her husband constantly hurt and even dead. As that would not have happened in this situation she would likely have been less strict and not as overprotective being a fighter herself.
This is amazingly awesome tho a few differences I would make. I think trunks would lose that jacket he would dress like goku a little he would go with goku to live with grandpa gohan. And he would be brother Tee. The rest is amazing and totally love it
What if... Trunks found out the trigger for Super Sayian was anger and then this same thing Trunks missing time by 30 years but finding young Goku, then insulting his Grandpa Gohan to make him really angry, and become Super Sayian very early on, then becomes Super Sayian God (Red God not Blue God yet) by the time Raditz shows up, like how Vegeta became it by himself?
Feels like the monkey king how he breezes through his enemies and only struggles with the big Chinese gods or in this case frieza n higher ups saiyans were just Chinese generals
one small thing; the androids would be much more powerful and aware of the supersayian transformation. there would be an escalation in the Android series and young trunks might see him self creating a monster he cannot defeat alone. the buu series would have also come at a more early period and we would have goku meeting vegeta for the first time while dealing with buu at the same time because he is a supersayian, in classic story telling; majin vegeta most likely will not survive the event and die before trunks is even born. All of this before even meeting freeza on namik, the freeza arc would have been very short but would raise everyone back to life with more focus on the broly event. after this the new androids would be revealed that were different and unlike anything trunks remembered due to a new timeline. everyone in this universe is a lot stronger.
How did he miss his mark by 30yrs. Goku was around 23-24 when he first died. 1yr later nappa arrives 1-2 yr gap returns from yardratt. That puts him at 27-28 when he first met trunks
That could actually be very interesting actually as flight is a standard ability you just have to have around the Namek arc. It could be fun to do but I feel like it would be a short timeline to explore
This would be a better story than the original and it would show how good the writers are by bringing Trunks in even before Bulma.and who really liked the Buu saga or even Buu himself?I know i dont so him not being existant is good pluuuus everyone would want more saiyans aaaaannd everyone loves goten and would want him to be stronger
mistakes: 1-> No Androids? Dr Gero had bugs studying Goku and fighters from far away... he even got cells from Freiza. Kmon, he was secretive and would still continue his plans... whats worst I think since Goku would be stronger then the Androids would be that much stronger and so would Cell. 2-> Gohan does no like to or want to study kuz its "in his nature". In DBZ he always tries to get away and do whatever not to study. I think he would still be a fighter, like in the normal story, but would be doing studies kuz pressured by his mother, like normally.
1 Goku kills Gero 2 If you are saying Gohan tries to get away from Studying then why didn't he train the 7 years after Cell? Or after the defeat of Majin Buu? Understand the Dragon Ball Z anime has a lot of filler moments in it .
@@PlusUltraMan 1-> In dragon ball, there is NO dr. Gero. Goku never meets him and Ive rewatched the episodes plenty of times. He just suddenly is a thing in DragonBall Z. So unless Im missing something (I didnt have every manga). either way, when we do finally hear about Gero, the guy is dead anyways and made himself into an android... There is little information on him and who knows when and how he was made into an android and his secret lab is filled with mystery. Hell, cell is hidden under there with a computer working on him... so yea, I doubt a stronger Goku would change the turn of events of this mysterious scientist hidden away working on secret projects with spy bots, who we never see or meet in the red ribbon saga... 2-> His upbringing. Chi Chi made/forced him to study. I dont think any of this would change whether Goku is stronger or weaker. Im not saying Gohan is a wild reckless fighter. Hell, Goku nor Goten aren't like savage wild sayans, they are rather tame for sayans.... But I still dont think Gohans nature is to study. I dont think anything would change here. He'd still be Gohan, fighting and doing his thing, but his mom still force him to be a scholar. When Goten is born she even says at some point she wanted the first kid to be a scholar. Gohan still is a sayan and has that thing where he has hidden amazing powers and sense of adventure, but he def isnt constantly training like his dad. I still dont think he'd naturally be an all out schoolboy in an alternative timeline and hed still run off on adventures as he does in original timeline.
one point you under played if trunks or anyone actually used the ultra divine water they would gain gokus main advantage that has been long forgotten in the franchise it isn't just a power boost its its own zenkai booster for anyone who can survive it and the power increase is from the original zenkai boost its the reason goku has always been able to gain more power than the other saiyans and everyone else because he has two types of zenkai boosts throughout the series most notable as being the big reason he gets the massive power boost in the saiyan saga
It would have clever to have set this in the red ribbon army arc instead, with trunks planning to kill gero before he could make anymore androids, only to have 8er to change trunk mind and he saves the life of gero's son instead.
Probably going to remake and reupload this what If soon. There are some things I wanna add, take out, and elaborate on to help curve some of these questions for you guys
Plus UltraMan love the vod
I mean vid
I kinda wish Naruto rearmed sage earlier in his age I was thinking a young sage mode
Wait wrong no vod
Vegeta and napa should have learn kaoken since they died
Nappa: *Goes super saiyan
Cabba: What did you do?
Nappa: Can't you tell? I'm a super saiyan! Look at my mustache!
I see what you did there
GT reference
And eyebrows
HA
😂 I have
Battle of Gods and the beginning of Dragon Ball Super would be quite different in this timeline. Remember, Beerus actually decided to destroy the earth because Buu took all the pudding, not because he couldn't find a super saiyan god. It was only after this that they offered to make it up to him by using the dragon balls to find a super saiyan god. If Buu isn't in this timeline, Beerus would have gotten his pudding and loved it, deciding not to destroy the planet because of all the great food. There would be no super saiyan God transformation because the threat would be gone so there would be no need to use the dragon balls. Beerus would be a bit embarrassed and annoyed about his dream being "false" though. Of course, it's possible that someone would still think of using the dragon balls to find out about super saiyan gods but even if they did the main threat of the story would be lost.
No I disagree that there would be absolutely no SSG in this timeline. Goku didn't decide to reach that form strictly out of a need to protect the planet he also wanted to get strong enough to fight Beerus (he does end up regreting how he reaches it) so I think he and Vegeta might still bribe Whis to train them and attain God Ki as Vegeta did .
I think once Goku gets back to earth seeing Beerus was completely chilled out might try and push him into another match but would know he couldn't beat him still, I can see him either asking shenron to tell him how to become a SSG or asking Beerus to teach him which would be defeaulted to whis.
If the former happens Beerus will want to fight as he's been looking for something interesting, if the latter Beerus may decide to fight Goku or Vegeta once seeing them get stronger through Whis.
You are correct thought Battale of Gods would be different
@@PlusUltraMan I did mention that as a possibility though not in as much detail as you. After giving it some thought I agree, given Goku's nature, that this is the most likely scenario. I was more focused on how different the atmosphere would be without the threat of destruction.
@@PlusUltraMan I don't think beerus would ever even bother with goku and vegita without him being impressed by them killing buu.
I would watch this DB
I'd watch any db
Just not db super
CovilDog yeah mostly because two of the arcs have a bad plot
Actually almost like a isekai anime . EPIC !
BRO, THE SACRED WATER WAS NO MULTIPLIER, IT WAS REGULAR WATER, IT WAS JUST USED AS A CONFIDENCE BOOST, STATED IN DRAGON BALL
...that's not entirely correct either. The strength gained is from the exercise exerted from climbing the tower and taking the bottle of the Super Holy Water from Korin.
I’m glad someone else realised this 😂
I said Sacred water but meant Ultra Divine Water
Yeah. It was the work out of reaching the towers top. Still not correct tho. Masakox did some solid ones
He meant the ultra divine water
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY ARE IS UR CONTENT SO GOOD WTFF??
Your the best story teller ever. If you just took the time and actually tell the details I would still watch it even if it’s an hour long
I don't understand how Nappa and Raditz could be defeated by Cabba. You said they trained with Whis, meaning they likely has God Ki, and even if they don't, he should at this point have Super Saiyan 2 at least. So even if Cabba's base is equal to theirs (due to Cabba's base bein equal to Vegeta's and Vegeta being stronger so Raditz and Nappa should be around Vegeta's original base), Super Saiyan 2 should surpass Super Saiyan.
They got defeated because of plot honestly, I wasn't trying to spend a huge amount of time on the U6 tournament. Besides if they didn't get beat by Cabba then Hit would have ran through everyone so it isn't of huge consequence to me.
@@BA-en1ef Lmao!
really liking your what ifs this vid was really entertaining to watch keep up the good work man
Lightro_ Storm cabbas base is equal to vegeta? Ok that’s a good joke
So basically not just plot but dumb plot lol . I like yo what if story tho
what if Gohan and Goten were twins? either when gotten was born or when Gohan was but either way I wonder what would happen to the timeline then
That was already on my list
@@PlusUltraMan You just got a new sub my man, I really want this what if. And I'm glad there's a Dragon Ball youtuber who doesn't straight up hate on Vegeta
They would both become weak ass nerds
Just like gohan already is.
Salad Saiyan did it
Didnt you say goku had ssj when training with trunks?
No I show him as a SSJ as a visual aid I never state that he becomes a super saiyan
Plus UltraMan oh ok thx
dudes crazy
Really nice video dude and I just had TF2 flashbacks to During their training they run into bulma and her flirting with Trunks btw Goku losing his tail by trunks and not grandpa Gohan seems really funny cause I could just see trunks explaining the tail to him and then trunks slicing it off with his sword lol
No Trunks leaves before Bulms comes sadly.... Or thankfully whichever 😂 yeah the tail coming off was probably a bit of a struggle for those two
I don't think Universe 7 would have to fight since their score would be way higher than the original timeline
The score would be about the same. The gods were still under performing and lazy.
Radditz said his meeting with goku the scouter must be broken, he wouldn't chill and join goku he was a giant ass hole the whole time and would probably try to usurp the leader spot from vegeta by tattling to frieza
wait im listening and you're talking about goku turning into a super saiyan and im just thinking can't trunks just find dr. gero and kill him? find the red ribbon army? use the dragon balls to find him? when Oolong is about to make his wish for underwear, trunks wishes to find dr. gero? too simple.
Trunks is also operating on the rule of not getting too involved with the time stream. Notice the only person he interacts with (on his first trip) is Goku. This is because the goal is to create a stronger Goku that still goes through his adventures while also having wide access to the heart medicine. He also instills a target on the RR Army so Goku doesn't show them much mercy.
Remember on his first trip he is under the impression the timeline is linear and his actions could impact a lot of things in ways he doesn't want.
Didn't trunks find out who dr gero was in the original timeline when the wrong androids showed up?
If he didn't go through that he wouldn't have known to go after gero
Would't Cell also be Stronger Cause he is made from the cells of the greatest fighters? in this case Nearly every Sayan kami and maybe frieza
@@93Hexer Actually no. The Cell that comes back is from a separate timeline, which would be unaffected by Trunks's meddling due to multiverse theory. Also Gero might not have even survived in this timeline, meaning Lapis and Lazuli may have never been converted into Androids for Cell to power up on. It's also debatable if Cell would even wind up in this timeline to start with.
Very great what if man. Its a multiverse I'd love to see. It does suck that goku would lose the kioken but with a more serious goku, i feel hed would most definatly have a better handle of ui. You got a new subsciber in me buddy keep up the good work.
So this is a odd one ive been thinking of since the frieza saga what if goku convinced frieza to be good cause in the series there was a split second where he thought about what goku who had said but then squashed the thought like a bug but what if he didnt
It's definitely an interesting idea but I honestly think it's waaaay too far outside of Frieza's character to become good. In the TOP he has a clear reward and reason to work with Goku but any other time I think Frieza is always gonna be bad to the bone
@@PlusUltraMan true but i think it would play out similar to piccolo like he aint all the way good but hed keep it secret then train wait for some shit to go down switch sides then just kinda keep happening over and over and after being beaten so many times just gives up idk its all speculation and depends on actions and over events to take place but i think after he was beaten enoghe times hed have to just suck it up or use the dragon balls to make him self stronger in some way that makes him beat goku and the rest idk i see two ways it go either frezia would be entrested in the sayins and humans strength and would go with them and either hed slowly bond with them and lighten up or hed slowly gain their trust and when things like Android cell buu sagas came along hed try and pull some bullshit
But Masko!....Wait.....I mean But Plus Ultraman how come Krillin was revived by the earths dragon balls after frieza killed him!
I'm not sure what you mean but I like the reference.
I can't say that Krillin wouldn't die to Tambourine, but I can say that after Kami begins to train I think he would be able to remove a lot of shenron's limits
(I have absolutely no proof that he could become strong enough to affect seperate timelines but I know if he could do that he could revive someone multiple times)
Good question though I probably should have elaboraed on this
Plus UltraMan ok 😅
@@PlusUltraMan how fate he kid you up with an awful youtube like masako
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What if, the saiyans abused the zenkai boost to the ABSOLUTE LIMIT? Could you do a what if that has this in it? I'd be so happy if you would. :)
@MVO Javari You know how pissed regular people would be? lol
@MVO Javari a sayin cant get a zenkai boost hurting themselves. Thata why vegeta had krillen shoot a hole in his chest on namak. However they totally can abuse it though lmao. Goku powers up to full power and just barley beats the ahit out of vegeta than senzu bean for vegeta than vegeta goes full power and beata the ahit out of goku he eats a senzu and repeat proccess. They would be waaaaaaaaaaay too op
@@xCupquakeSuicidex ye just a nuke every 5 seconds
@@Thefluffybunny13
Or to save sensu beans because those are hard to grow... have Dende heal them. Do that for about... 40 taks, then they'd be ready
@@aienma6660 yes! Like i get why they dont want to do it (getting near death don't sound very fun) but dragonballs are a thing so evwn if they do die....just like reserect ppls lol
You forgot that poor Krillin would die as a miserable lonely man who would never find the woman of his dreams and never have children if Trunks went back in time too far. He would have the worst fate ever, even considering how hot Android 18 is.
Bruh you should have ten times your current sub count, quality and in depth content 👌💯
Honestly I hate this what if. I was so tired while trying to pump something this long out that there are so many errors and missing notes it just pisses me off but people really enjoy it
@@PlusUltraMan There really is alot to cover but you got all the main points.
@@PlusUltraMan your just salty that u didn't think of this
@@PlusUltraMan that's if your an youtube
@@PlusUltraMan my bad
"Goku speedrunning the first DB"
Nice, Raditz turned good crossover... also with a Nappa, and Vegeta turned good early?
Nice
I like the big eyes 🤪 you give the characters when they're shocked 😲 about something.
Make a new one plzz
I'm going to because I kinda hate this what if because of all the mistakes
Oh wow this one was really good nice job due
Yo tbh I kept skipping this because I thought it’d be stupid, and I was right in a different sense, it’s stupidly amazing, I love this what if because you actually explore and it fits so well
I was thinking about that for 2 years and finnaly i found a video
Another part of it....and you are amazing 😎
Thank you for keeping me entertained with my favorite show over 20 something years
Imagine if goku and chichi had a third son in this timeline
If Goku decided to spend a little more time at home I could definitely imagine it, I always assumed they stopped after Goten for monetary reasons
@@badtimeisinevitable9620 lol
theres a fan manga talking about what if goku also had a daughter Mondo Cool did a video on it
Yo just subscribed love your content hope you keep it up
Appreciate that man I definitely plan to! We're having a livestream around 7pm Est so I hope you can come hang out!
loved this! only thing is I disagree about the outcome of tournament of power. with kami instead of piccolo and no freiza,androids, or gohan.I just think this team would be overall weaker.5 fighters overall would be weaker.
JaKe SwOrD plus no kaioken so Jiren stomps goku
What if Goku said yes when kami asked him to be his successor with the condition that Chichi joins him as a goddess to Goku's God.
I think chi chi would be a Nice goddess
@@ravatosthepro1323 she be little bit more reasonable and less crotchety when it comes to Goku and their boys defending Earth. Best of all she wouldn't be nagging at Goku to get a job.
Okay
@@ravatosthepro1323 I just think that's why she would be a nice goddess. Because she would have no reason to bitch and realistically wouldn't stop her own training.
Even with all this he still can’t touch Arale
Neddlemouse he could've touched her in original dragon ball because it was still a gag manga!
Wouldn't the Goku Black arc happen in Z because it's early
Honestly, in this scenario, I think Goku would have bodied Freeza, even if he went into his final form; all without going SSJ. It would have been a fight, yes, but seeing as Freeza would have shown up to Earth, Goku would be able to see his first form, and by this point be able to see the depths of his power. Knowing this, I do believe Goku would just body him in his first form. This Goku is far more serious and cautious, so it would make sense he wouldn't risk anyone dying, and just take care of the issue before it became a problem. That's just my thoughts on this, but good concept for an alternate timeline for the series. :D
I think Frieza would go to earth in his final form. Remember, he knew Goku was stronger than Vegeta who forced him to use his third form.
@@andrewrenshaw2741 That's true enough, but knowing Freeza, he would take vegeta's word with salt, and get cocky. Either way, he hadn't trained at this point yet, so I still think goku would body him. Not easily, but I think he would.
@@GaugedHonor Maybe! It could go either way honestly. Thanks for acknowledging my argument, it's pretty rare on here lol.
@@andrewrenshaw2741 Yeah, I know that all too well, but you made a valid point.
Trunks: No! It cannot be! The Big Bang? TOO HOT...OUCH OUCH OUCH...
Nice video, you seem very passionate in dragon ball. You just got a new sub!
Not gonna lie, this was pretty cool. That Supreme Kai face had me rollin.
Good job on this What If! Really liked it and keep going :)
What if Goku's first Super Saiyan transformation occurred as a result of the Spirit Bomb?
Premise: Freeza is struck by Gohan and Krillin distracting him from killing Piccolo. Childish spoiled emperor he is; Freeza would blow up Krillin then and there. Struck in the heart at his friend's death, Goku hurls the bomb only seconds earlier than originally.
Thinking the bomb is headed for him Freeza fires at it, his attack is absorbed, same as his death ball originally was, he then realizes the ball is angled at Goku, and thinks he's lost his mind. Despite pleas from King Kai, Goku absorbs the ball and inadvertently triggers a transformation; he'd either be a low level Ascended Super Saiyan, or just a much stronger Super Saiyan 1.
Scenario proper: A stronger Goku fights a relatively uninjured Freeza and Namek does not have a gaping hole for Freeza to fire his planet killer at.
Would a less fatigued Freeza handle his full power form more aptly, or would he pose little challenge to Goku?
How does this affect the return to earth and the fight with KC, if there is one? Cyborg Saga, etc...?
I do not know what I did for the past year that I didn't see this but it was awesome!!!
You’re awesome bro I would definitely hire you to remake it man you’d rock it better then gt
12:42 you could have done like a flashback to where bardock tried to stop freiza and goku does the same and that would remind freiza of bardock
What if vegeta unlocked ultra instinct instead of goku and killed Lord Berus because he authorized planet Vegeta's destruction.
Beerus >>>>> MUI
I loved this story I watched the whole thing
How does cabba defeat nappa
Nappa is getting older and starting to lean away from fighting( this is something I couldn't elaborate on in the video) Raditz would probably have a lot more interest in his family around this time as Goku and Vegeta continue to leap past him. Around the time they fight Cabba I wouldnt place either Nappa or Raditz at the base power of Vegeta during that tournament. Though afterwards I imagine theyd have some more motivation
What if Zamasu took the body of Vegeta becoming Vegeta black
broly black
Even better
hey thats a pretty good thumb nail
Thanks I really enjoy making them and even make them for some of my friends!
Trunks is a child predetor 😂😂
Nice story Plus Ultra Man
What if Goku was born a Super Saiyan God/gained access to God Ki as a Kid in Dragon Ball
Already done by a different youtuber
That raditz twist tho....... Yo you might be a genius bro .....
I'm not so sure Gohan wouldn't train in this version since a more mature and powerful version of Goku would probably see Gohan's potential and would make Gohan train. As Goku would not have died at any point Gohan would have been much closer to his dad and would want to train with him to relate. Also I doubt Chichi would have had such a big issue with Gohan training because as I see it her biggest issue was wanting to have her kid stay safe after seeing her husband constantly hurt and even dead. As that would not have happened in this situation she would likely have been less strict and not as overprotective being a fighter herself.
Great story man you came up with this ? Very creative you should make a fan manga out of this
I hope Gokus 3rd kid has Raditz hair.
A long alternative timeline theory. This is what I have been looking for.
This is amazingly awesome tho a few differences I would make. I think trunks would lose that jacket he would dress like goku a little he would go with goku to live with grandpa gohan. And he would be brother Tee. The rest is amazing and totally love it
I was gonna say why copy masako, but then I saw this was 2 months ago. So my bad.
What if... Trunks found out the trigger for Super Sayian was anger and then this same thing Trunks missing time by 30 years but finding young Goku, then insulting his Grandpa Gohan to make him really angry, and become Super Sayian very early on, then becomes Super Sayian God (Red God not Blue God yet) by the time Raditz shows up, like how Vegeta became it by himself?
thank you.. thank you for making this
I loved this a hell of a lot. I had to subscribe
That means gotenks is super saiyan 2 as goku age 😁💯
i like how everyone always pairs up radizts with launch if he survived and turned good
Mannn this version of dragon ball sounds good
Somebody should make a fan manga of this
Literally, this is basically a combo of 2 of Masako X’s what ifs
Which ones?
Plus Ultra Man what if trunks went too far and met kid bulma and what if goku went super saiyan early
Yo I’m not going to lie this would be a good story arc🤷🏼♂️
Feels like the monkey king how he breezes through his enemies and only struggles with the big Chinese gods or in this case frieza n higher ups saiyans were just Chinese generals
Great video bud keep it up 👍
one small thing; the androids would be much more powerful and aware of the supersayian transformation. there would be an escalation in the Android series and young trunks might see him self creating a monster he cannot defeat alone. the buu series would have also come at a more early period and we would have goku meeting vegeta for the first time while dealing with buu at the same time because he is a supersayian, in classic story telling; majin vegeta most likely will not survive the event and die before trunks is even born. All of this before even meeting freeza on namik, the freeza arc would have been very short but would raise everyone back to life with more focus on the broly event. after this the new androids would be revealed that were different and unlike anything trunks remembered due to a new timeline. everyone in this universe is a lot stronger.
Goku forehead in the beginning had me laughing!!!
How did he miss his mark by 30yrs. Goku was around 23-24 when he first died. 1yr later nappa arrives 1-2 yr gap returns from yardratt. That puts him at 27-28 when he first met trunks
this was really good tbh
That face tho 18:19
Yes Finnaly somone who knows what blue exorcist is
This would make a great spinoff seeing the remaining sayins live and get stronger. Ssj Nappa yellow mustache lol that would be great
what if only namekian could fly?
That could actually be very interesting actually as flight is a standard ability you just have to have around the Namek arc. It could be fun to do but I feel like it would be a short timeline to explore
I fw this theory
Just subbed
You reaching at the end bro but it’s dope
This should be a real manga or movie!!
I never knew goku went yo maine, good skiing
Best What if story I ever hear
Amazing video man!
I do like how Goku reaches Super Saiyan in this timeline it feels so Bardock Like.
Needs a fanfic
it is simple trunks just hide a go try and walk in too the city and ask first someone about which year it is.
If Nappa goes ask would only his eyebrows turn yellow or what???????
Your intro is fire
Goku would think Trunks' time machine is a monster and destroy it, leaving Trunks stranded in the past.
this what if has gone a long way even got remake by both ultra and smugstick
When 75% Of This has nothing to do with Trunks
Keep them coming bro love it
This would be a better story than the original and it would show how good the writers are by bringing Trunks in even before Bulma.and who really liked the Buu saga or even Buu himself?I know i dont so him not being existant is good pluuuus everyone would want more saiyans aaaaannd everyone loves goten and would want him to be stronger
Can the super drangon balls bring back future Goku
Very strong possibility I don't think they ever expressed the full limitations of them
It's stated multiple times that the super dragonballs can grant any wish, so yeah, probably.
There are no limits on the super dragonballs.
You are stretching this alot... my suspension of disbelief can only go so far
I like the ranch reference from masenko🔥
This was awesome to see keep it up a part 2 would be great
mistakes:
1-> No Androids? Dr Gero had bugs studying Goku and fighters from far away... he even got cells from Freiza. Kmon, he was secretive and would still continue his plans... whats worst I think since Goku would be stronger then the Androids would be that much stronger and so would Cell.
2-> Gohan does no like to or want to study kuz its "in his nature". In DBZ he always tries to get away and do whatever not to study. I think he would still be a fighter, like in the normal story, but would be doing studies kuz pressured by his mother, like normally.
1 Goku kills Gero
2 If you are saying Gohan tries to get away from Studying then why didn't he train the 7 years after Cell? Or after the defeat of Majin Buu? Understand the Dragon Ball Z anime has a lot of filler moments in it .
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1-> In dragon ball, there is NO dr. Gero. Goku never meets him and Ive rewatched the episodes plenty of times. He just suddenly is a thing in DragonBall Z. So unless Im missing something (I didnt have every manga).
either way, when we do finally hear about Gero, the guy is dead anyways and made himself into an android... There is little information on him and who knows when and how he was made into an android and his secret lab is filled with mystery. Hell, cell is hidden under there with a computer working on him... so yea, I doubt a stronger Goku would change the turn of events of this mysterious scientist hidden away working on secret projects with spy bots, who we never see or meet in the red ribbon saga...
2-> His upbringing. Chi Chi made/forced him to study. I dont think any of this would change whether Goku is stronger or weaker. Im not saying Gohan is a wild reckless fighter. Hell, Goku nor Goten aren't like savage wild sayans, they are rather tame for sayans.... But I still dont think Gohans nature is to study. I dont think anything would change here. He'd still be Gohan, fighting and doing his thing, but his mom still force him to be a scholar. When Goten is born she even says at some point she wanted the first kid to be a scholar. Gohan still is a sayan and has that thing where he has hidden amazing powers and sense of adventure, but he def isnt constantly training like his dad. I still dont think he'd naturally be an all out schoolboy in an alternative timeline and hed still run off on adventures as he does in original timeline.
Woah dude your really smart with this
one point you under played if trunks or anyone actually used the ultra divine water they would gain gokus main advantage that has been long forgotten in the franchise it isn't just a power boost its its own zenkai booster for anyone who can survive it and the power increase is from the original zenkai boost its the reason goku has always been able to gain more power than the other saiyans and everyone else because he has two types of zenkai boosts throughout the series most notable as being the big reason he gets the massive power boost in the saiyan saga
it would take a lot of arguing to convince the saiyans to help make goku a god
It would have clever to have set this in the red ribbon army arc instead, with trunks planning to kill gero before he could make anymore androids, only to have 8er to change trunk mind and he saves the life of gero's son instead.