Videos like this is needed. It's disappointing that all these videos these youtubers put out they don't ever talk about cheating in PVP. If u love the game, then more videos like this needs attention. More discussion on this is needed because there's a lot of players using cheats for sure. Build videos doesn't matter if the elephant in the room isn't addressed. If I could talk to a dev, I would tell them addressing cheats in ur game should be priority no. 1. Then fix the game is priority no. 2. And of course, ban all these bums thats been cheating and get them the f** out of here.
You can't ban, it's undetectable. Research Cronus. This is what they use. Been here since div 1 and it's in every game not just Division. You just have to be careful what scripts you download. I don't use it myself but I know players who do...
This is exactly why I rarely played in the DZ. Aside from the fact that you cannot trust anyone to NOT shoot you in the back, you have these “bulldozing” players who bless you with insta-kills, while taking in zero damage themselves. Not fun when to combat is futile.
The Cronus is in my view for cheaters who cannot play a game using their own natural talents simply because they have no talent. These people to me are bottom feeders and get their kicks by ruining other peoples enjoyment. They are very sad in what they do and should be named and shamed. Tough words indeed and if they don't like it , tough. I have came across several of these and am keeping a log of their tags. There was even someone coaching a youngster and both were laughing like idiots. There is even a content creator being sponsored by a company who sells exotic items, yep you can buy an Eagle Bearer for around 150 euros, The Bighorn around the same, absolutely unbelievable. Good viv as usual buddy, thanks.
I bought one of these to see how to beat the cheats in DIV 1, My team would not use them in the actual game. We got wiped out by a two man team using Cronus in the DZ for hours, when everyone logged off I put mine on my system and went back in and destroyed them. Then put it back in the draw, it's used in so many games. I don't bother with the PVP anymore its just ridiculous. I have a video of people using it against me then their movement is totally unreal
I think bigger part of the Problem is the whole issue behind forced pvp, i know shd lvl doesn’t matter after 900-1000 but still sometimes i help lvl 30-100 shd and these people have no clue when it comes to build, don’t have all watch extras. All the 10%s also absolut no Passion for this whole forced pvp 4 players minimum shd 12 k farming a lvl 30 shd who is just in here to the weekly/daily dz project… it kinda sux
I tried the Dark Zone 4 or 5 times and there is nothing you can do when its not this its groups of 4 going Rogue and hunting in the Extraction zones ... I never went back , let them have there fun against NPCs.. that is why the Darzones are almost empty of players ...
the only solution here is manually searching this kind of players using special UBI game accounts which can collect any data they need, and if cheater is found they MUST permaban that user!! ACCOUNT PERMABAN, IP ADDRESS PERMABAN AND HWID PERMABAN
I dont dont pvp absolutely no dark zone. Everything I need is in light zone. All pvp will always have cheating. I think it will be better is whn someone goes rogue they lose all they skills & it only becomes gunplay. The skills allows cheating to à higher level.
No it is poisoning. And yeah, people that use these for no reason other than they lack skill are trash. This goes back to the study I spoke of in the past. How people are online is who they are IRL. This part of what makes cross play tough
@@creed1741 Yall really insane on this internet, no one in my clan uses cronus. We are just good at pvp. I laugh because i think bad players scape goat is always cronus, its COMEDIC!
CHEATING ON DISPLAY: I saw some clown in the DZ south just wrecking 5 other players and completely owning the server. He had around 550+ TOTAL hours in the game and 23450 DZ SHD agent kills. Do the math on those numbers; it's is just not possible.
Solid video. I really appreciated you quickly examining the killer's gear, fast enough to catch them swapping loadouts. Great catch. It's not definite "proof" of cheating, but a realistic example of current DZ gameplay.
It's issues like this that makes it hard for new comers like me to really enjoy the game the way im supposed to its almost discouraging especially when most of the items you need come from The dark zones.
On PC cheats has always been around almost as long as gaming was on PC. I understand when using cheats on a single player game but I really can't condone using cheats on a multiplayer side of games. In PvP, it's one players skills and build vs another players skills and build. But when one uses cheats then what's the point of doing PvP, you're not using skills you learn and picked up playing the game, you're using a code someone wrote to over ride the game mechanics, you're not even really playing the game but just running lines of computer codes vs someone who really put the time and effort into learning the mechanics of the game and gotten good at and just want to see what they can do vs another player.
i will say again, the dark zone is full of cheaters shooting thru walls and lag switching, and they ENJOY IT! they like laffing and killing you in the spawn..i don't care what gear is there i won't go after it.
This hits the nail on the head, you can report all these people to UBs but nothing is done. There is a groupe called Div 1 and 2 community some people on there refuse to admit what is going on and even try to belittle you. Thanks for the vid.
People actually call you cry baby 😂 but I was on the mic saying y'all guys !!! Come on here 24/7 every single day just to cheat they have no life 😆 like they must be living with there parents
I run dz daily it's full of cheats aimbots shooting through walls lag switchers etc Best way to deal with it is to change servers this is a major problem and has been for a while
This video could not be more true every time I go into the dz no matter what dz it is there is mad cheaters I was in dz east last night and there was 4 Rouge agents not taking any damage hence Kronos zen it seems you can not gain an edge unless you have Kronos and I agree I don't think it's going to stop anytime soon and the sad part is ubisoft knows about it and they either just don't care or they condone it either way Its to the point if you don't cheat you can't win the honor of earning your strength threw hard grinding is gone its sad that players would rather cheat than earn their strength its to the point I don't even like playing pvp because I know it's a matter of time before they come and kill me with the cheating it has become an everyday occurrence and I know heartland will be the same if not worse and I see no end in sight thank you for making this video it is a testament to all those who refuse to cheat to win shout out to all the natural non cheating players we are a dying breed 💯💯💯
I stay out the dark zone because it's juat too frustrating, everytime I went in there was this dude that was just murdering everthing but never going down no matter how many people were firing on them, so I just left it alone
Totally agree with you, redoing the pvp experience, and dark zone concept in order to make it more fair for everyone, and monitor it and place it in a different way is what’s need to be done
@@arjay8830 mate, I've got some awesome off meta builds for DZ, but, they are just overwhelmed by the damage output of the contractors/fox's combination. For example, System Corruption gear set. It's a DZ exclusive set, but hasn't changed since day 1. How many people use it? As far as I know, me (sometimes).
I understand what your saying compeltley I think your idea would bring some much needed build diversity to the dz.. I mean as of now like you said it's the generic foxes and contractor build or nothing . Well the occasionally status or bulwark tank but other then that noda. And you are right sys corrupt is a great bs but not very effective in the dz unless you have the play style down to t to run it.. I'm with your idea 100 percent bro
I personally don’t use cronos scripts but have played with people who use movement scripts and with enough practice you can straif aswell as these players without using the script. I personally get accused of running cronos and headshot scripts just to the amount of time I have put into pvp and I’m not even the best at it most of the time the player who killed you has just put more hours into pvp and know how to move correctly on a controller I used to accuse people of it when I was just starting out in pvp but now that I can move aswell as people who use the cronos without one I don’t as like I said they were probably just better than me at the time. Not trying to defend the people who do use cronos and scripts but it is a lot fewer people that do than most people think.
As long as you have games you will have people that will find a way to cheat at them. I heard a way to tell if there are users utilizing Cronos is to hit the start button and if there is a white flashing skull over the whitehouse Cronos is active. Don't know if that is true but I have seen it myself several times after I noticed some odd players.
Don’t know if there is cheating. But went out to dz straight into rouge fight. 2 million armour and unbreakable.. and a shield on top. about 9 million armour.. Dead in half a second. How does that happen?? Didn’t even get to close the door… I looked at there build and it was 6 reds damage… Smg lady death….. Is armour so meaningless??
@Joe Bloggs bro its not locks on the head it just improve ur aim and ur movement my brother use CM and my friends use CZ and u will get a huge advantage if u use mouse and keyboard
Here is some simple but harsh truth when it comes this subject: If you feel that you need to use a modded controller, 3rd party devices, or scripts to get better at a game that says alot about your skill as a player. People don't want to get better at something by practicing, instead they want the easiest route possible because frankly they don't want their ego bruised. It's really basic psychology when it comes to gaming. If a person is being made fun in real life for let's say for being small, they are going to modify their self, take a steroid, get in the gym etc essentially get bigger= overall feeling of their self. In gaming there is no steroid you can physically take. So they got their ass beat a few times, got tired of it (maybe even got featured in a video) so now they are going to modify how they are; so in this case buy and use 3rd party devices so they can start winning fights, start showing superiority. But at the end of the day both examples know they are NOT that good, only with the use of external items are they good
It’s cool that this was brought up but maybe you should talk about how some people who call themselves division content creators play with these type of people especially on xbox I know a few
@@DaGamerDad kongstyle, bishop, betaslapz and I know some people might not like e da ripper but he’s actually smart even though he plays with them type of people himself he called them out a few times in his livestream but some people have an iq of a fucking peanut they say you can’t cheat on console like seriously 🤦🏾♂️
Very good video, and I think they should do more youtubers giving this content. But I will tell you something, if the divison 2 separates the PVE from the PVP and sells it separately, I doubt very much that the PVP will sell more than the PVE, because both on console and on PC it is mining as a cheat and that is that Ubisoft does not this game is interesting, remember that the 1 never, never, never even showed their faces and was the strongest PVP of the moment...
hes not totally wrong about this i cant stand cheats now ill run cheats on a single player game or on a just build in chill like on the forest but to pvp with hacks or glitches makes me wunt to explode ik i hear dark zone and get annoyed thinking about the cheaters ik i have found atleast 2 like 5 head shots with a smg from 3 blocks away like come on and another dude took 3 peoples fire and didnt lose any armor so ive had a few issues myself
What's the point of playing a game that a cheat is playing for you and bragging about it ?? its pointless only worthy of a spoiled to the bone kid who was rewarded by its mom for failing all his life ! Sometime these cheaters are getting caught live on UA-cam leaving their hacking software displayed live on their stream page they make perfect asses of themselves !
2 years later and ONIKAGE still plays this pathetic build by shooting you through corners and lag switching. He is like top 3 in DZ kills. It was meant to meet him in this video
Crinus Zen Max is not the real problem. If you're better than a player using it you can still manage to pull out a win. The real problem is that there is no way (yet) to detect the scripts and hacks that players run through their computers while playing the game.
Agreed with you! It is simple learn the movement burst strafe cut strafe basic strafe.If you know these movements you will be better player in dz or conflict.
It's been here for a long time, since Division 1 and it's not just this game it's being used everywhere. It can't be detected so can't ban so yeah... Nothing you can do.
The chronus max cheaters are why i stopped playing division 1 to begin with and quickly within the first year of release the division 2 was lost to the same problem and i for one just stopped playing altogether even though i enjoy the dark zone content.
It will not be addressed. They are considered "controller mods". This isn't a new problem in the division universe either. People were using them in TD1 with shotguns + Rapid Fire mod to clap in the DZ...This actually lead to Massive nerfing the fire rate amd ADS time of the SASG Shotty. I don't know that they can address the issue, but if they could add an icon over the players head or next to their gamertag, that would be a start. Let the pre/post game lobbies handle it from there haha.
Than comes some of you audience to say "Oh, you are overreacting cause I go to DZ 80% of my play time and I don't see people using hacks. You can't say everyone is using hacks! Bla, bla, bla" Cattle!!!
Honestly one of the biggest issues for me is the horrible ticks on the DZ servers, man. So often I'm taking dmg seconds after I seemed to get hit which totally fucks up any kind of movement flow, and the lag switch walls are bad, really bad, as in almost every single time theres a manhunt happening I'm running into invisible walls. These two things are the worst honestly because it fucks my movement. I could care less about someone using scripts; if you put time in and get proficient with headshots and put together a decent hsd build you can easily counter the strafing tank crit guys. Eh, whatever, PvP still kinda sucks now tho.
Because inbuilt cheats have been done away with almost ,that these devices become popular Loved my ps1/2 action replay back in the day & extended the lifespan of my games no end
Cronus and Cheating is nothing new, and as far back as I can remember, from the div1 days, is most players that get slapped around a few times will just say that their opponent is running Cronus, even if they are not using it, The thing about Cronus and division is that the PvP Community is small and you will run into the same names periodically,. And if your good at PvP or just better then the player your going up against then most likely you will be accused for running cronus, even if your not. Now, I’m Not saying players don’t use it, because their is plenty that do, but if you were to ask me if cronus is what’s killing PvP or why players don’t play PvP,, I would say No! Cronus alone is not why people don’t play, or what’s killing PvP. PvP is just flat out broken, and far from balanced. Cronus is honestly the least of the problems in Div 2 PvP. Because if that was solely the problem, then why would the first division game have more players playing PvP then the second game.
Disagree. Yes the game is broken. But cheating in PVP is the no.1 biggest problem with this game hands down. Cheating means the game doesn't have integrity. Once that's gone, it doesn't matter if the game is balanced or fixed. Hope that makes sense.
@@maximus4everjay119 no the problem is you, thinking anyone that kills your or outplays you must be cheating. That’s literally your logic, you don’t even stop to think or even analyse what happened or why you died. It’s just easier for you to throw on a glass cannon skill build and cry “cheater” right?
I lost my left eye to cancer at 8 months old! I don't use those things! I am competitive! I like my Astro c40 and my Xbox Elite 2 controller! They also use a level 30 purple pistol with ignite on it for a damage glitch in the DZ! They used to ban people for using chronos!
I had to take a break from DZ last night, a player kept one shooting me and other players. The player would hang around DZ entry points and just one shot us. Not a fun night.
Thought these were patched already on ps4 database overall? I had the collective minds strike pack FPS dominator and not long later Sony released a patch for the rapid fire mechanism. Maybe it’s still different for the Cronus zen I’m not sure but who wouldn’t take advantage of something like this? I admit it’s stupid but at the end of the day it’s like you’re refusing to use the best mechanic in a game, hence Cronus. Even while making it apparent to everybody that’s it’s there, expecting people to not use this is after the fact is corny. Maybe this was an attempt to overload players with this idea in hopes for someone to recognize and patch, but sadly those days are probably long gone.
In other words don’t be a Dick, this is something I would highly recommend for players going against npc’s or higher difficulties trying to progressively level up.
It can't be detected since it uses the controller to hide itself. They'd literally have to redesign controllers and somehow stop the old ones from functioning, it's not possible. Cronus will forever be a thing.
i’m a simple old gamer who uses no cheat codes, no nothing, just on my ps4, my xp and shd points, i tried dark zone n it was no fun! i tried to get some gear and all i was, was a target for rogue’s! my shd level is in the 600’s and i can hear them ripping my gear and shd level!! these kids were just running around killing you soon as you try to extract the low level gear, to them! but they were still killing me n taking my gear! their shd levels were in the thousands!!! question…how do get in the thousands on your shd level?!? hope this helps
Farm Supply Convoys with your map on at least challenging leval. Also put at least 3 directives. You'll level up one every time you complete one. It's broken still and gives way more XP than it says it's supposed to.
I don’t think that the developers are going to do anything about it because they used it on the division one game so the game will stay ruined for everyone
My Clan TACJOC specifically goes after higher ranking, toxic, cheaters, hackers, and known name Rogues! If they Bull new or inexperienced players we also bully those overly toxic Rogues as well. We enjoy killing players with lag and high end cheats!
Got fed-up myself of its redundancies having to redo the same maps over and over just to get an exotic we already owned and move to other game like Outriders but they too have servers problems but at lease its all new to me !
Cronus Zen is a huge problem but nobody wanna talk about scripts. Nobody cares cuz CRONUS is undectactable and you can’t eve handcam cus it’s Bluetooth compatible. Now here is a trick to catch them. If they stream you will notice his controller keep getting disconnected and that’s because of the Bluetooth it has a very weak signal that drops in and out 😉
Cal - (forget our past conversations, just here to add to your comment) Hand cams are mainly to show no use of Mouse and Keyboard, streamers (like I have done on stream) can also show they have nothing plugged in their consoles if they move their camera to show the console
Cronus has been ruining Consoles for decades, hard to tell in D2 because of no killcams. It is more VISIBLE in CoD, which is more popular in. It is what it is. Cronus is used not just in shooters but also in fighting games. Overall it is hard to tell and I’m not a game dev or a hacker so I do not know how hard it is to program games to detect Cronus or any other programs/scripts on consoles.
division can solve this problem by making ppl going to dark zones can toggle switch between attackable and not by other players haah. perhaps the cheaters are the developers themselves .. to have fun.
Ubisoft in general has a big cheating issue across all their pvp modes/ games. Imo due to a lack of experience with multiplayer pvp games... I play a ton of r6 siege on pc and console and cheating there is so bad it has distorted the entire ranked system... I got the division so I could play pve & escape all the cheating, which makes me not wanna even try the darkzone as avoiding the cheater infestation was the reason for me trying out the division in the first place...
Cheating in R6 Siege happens in causual too, few weeks ago i ran into cheater who never missed a shot and marked bomb in prep phase within 2 seconds of round start when he was still outside with a dron. Thats why i returned to the Division 2 but only for PvE, im not going to DZ since D1 was plagued with cheaters and 4 player groups who were resskilling everyone when they entered, i know you could just go to another DZ entrance but you will run into them again eventually.
@@ARC_00-o3r Im on PC, if i dont count that one old nintendo or whatever it was (games were on small cassettes and it was about 20 years ago) we never had a console. A while ago i got PS2 from scrap yard so im trying to make it work but thats it.
Lol that’s O-N-I-K-A-G-E he’s a little kid with sweaty hands he doesn’t cheat. And that build he wears I actually put out a video on how hard it is to kill ONIKAGE with that build kids a sweaty
The ONLY WAY to stop this idiots is by breaking privacy in a sense that gaming services MUST HAVE your ISP direct IP address they give you to have internet access to perma-ban. That's only in a utopian sense, but will never see the light of day. Cheaters will keep on making accounts in either Epic store or Ubisoft, so there's no true stopping. I can say the same for the "efficient armor glitch" but it is what it is. Theres a difference between player skills vs script skills. I see the Efficient glitch as a script glitch.
Onikage is a known cheater man. Modifiedaim and hpq7 literally 3 cheaters that have been in the dz since day 1. Been reported literally by 8 people at once in dz south... Still playing, still cheating..
When you mag dump into a players head and not one once of armor goes down. That is what the death of DZ is. It’s garbage. You go out and hunt down what you want or need. Then you have the “GREAT PLAYERS’ that just sit at the extraction point and shoot you and take you stuff. They don’t play they just sit there. I haven’t been to the DZ since the the day the game made you go the first time and haven’t played there since Division 1. DZ is dead.
Its to bad because that ever get fixed ive played this game from the start it hasnt changed at all from the zen to the glitches .Such a great game but out of control the Divs really dont care .
I've played d1 & d2 pvp and i can honestly say there have been cheaters in both games which have ruined certain patches but it did not ruin the game, division is more complicated than other games when it comes to movement my advice to players who wish to pvp learn the movement and ads patterns it will help you play better against or even beat Cronus, MnK, strike pack players cuz in the end none of these devices are going anywhere and they will be here moving forward which yes will suck to the casual player and sucks for true player ranking
The zen makes you hit 99.9% of headshots an can make you zig zag so good bullets phase through you its so toxic the dz is full of so many cheaters now its disgusting
It lets you map your controller to a mouse and keyboard. Which has less recoil using a mouse, and the side strafing is just a button. Its bad when you run into good players using mouse and keyboard, but this is an overall problem not game related. Cronus works on every game, just like modded controllers did. I'm sure anyone who played cod was killed by a drop shot mod on a controller at least once.
These devices should be sold like parking spots for handicapped people, with the handicapped permit. But they will never do that, because they will lose money. 99% of the players that use this devices are not handicapped, are just bad at aiming or to lazy to learn how to control a stick or even a mouse oooor they use it as an excuse because others use cronus as well...Btw...cronus works also with a mouse...I ordered a cronus zen a few months ago just to see what the fuss is about....I can say with an open heart...for those 10-15 minutes that I played with it I felt like the most trash player in the world. All the tests were made with my friends...so no other unknown players were involved. And my aim with the stick is most of the time on target and on m&k I am not that bad either. But with the cronus....dude....I was a god, sniping people from distance, no recoil, I didn't even have to aim to hit someone....they could not even see me. I returned the fuc%er the next day. I know how a good player aims and how a cronus user aims...but unfortunately there is not much we can do. The wais to stop this nonsense is to be illegal to sell this kind of devices or microsoft/sony just put a hard stop on plug and play devices, except storage devices
I don’t even understand how people can even say D2 pvp is good. It’s trash complete trash bro smh and to be honest people been using them Cronus devices Since D1 I just learn to live with it now it is what it is.
I play in DZ everyday I can hold my own but them Cronus max zen users you don’t stand a chance they hit al head shots and shoot through walls and kill you one shot
unfortunately the game in pvp is bad, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make logical sense like pvp, you have the possibility to be reborn endless times, to change spawn, so already in itself it is badly studied as pvp, then the cheaters have finished destroying a game that is already badly done in pvp .. a lot and that cheaters often play 1 Vs 1, ... then they live by rules between cheaters, they don't kill each other, but they join together to make a team .... and ridiculous all this ... the fault lies with MASSIV who did nothing to stop all this, thus causing the game to die .. I remember a big ban they did, due to glitches in PVE ... while those who cheat in PVP do not was banned ... this killed the game completely...
The game is in the hands of the developers and administrator's not a security code ai or team design the game so everyone has cheats or don't and take the hackers side to use alternative methods to have or do things in your game that is not intended, I remember back when n64 golden eye James bond at the cheat menu to turn the stuff on or off like super speed, big head, one shot kill without golden gun heck even golden gun was boss to play with now it's all classified taboos n god rolls on a fake god mode that you didn't earn by beating the game to unlock it so ya the 90s an early 2000 to 2013 was gaming golden era.
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Videos like this is needed. It's disappointing that all these videos these youtubers put out they don't ever talk about cheating in PVP. If u love the game, then more videos like this needs attention. More discussion on this is needed because there's a lot of players using cheats for sure. Build videos doesn't matter if the elephant in the room isn't addressed. If I could talk to a dev, I would tell them addressing cheats in ur game should be priority no. 1. Then fix the game is priority no. 2. And of course, ban all these bums thats been cheating and get them the f** out of here.
You can't ban, it's undetectable.
Research Cronus.
This is what they use.
Been here since div 1 and it's in every game not just Division.
You just have to be careful what scripts you download.
I don't use it myself but I know players who do...
This is exactly why I rarely played in the DZ. Aside from the fact that you cannot trust anyone to NOT shoot you in the back, you have these “bulldozing” players who bless you with insta-kills, while taking in zero damage themselves.
Not fun when to combat is futile.
The Cronus is in my view for cheaters who cannot play a game using their own natural talents simply because they have no talent. These people to me are bottom feeders and get their kicks by ruining other peoples enjoyment. They are very sad in what they do and should be named and shamed. Tough words indeed and if they don't like it , tough. I have came across several of these and am keeping a log of their tags. There was even someone coaching a youngster and both were laughing like idiots. There is even a content creator being sponsored by a company who sells exotic items, yep you can buy an Eagle Bearer for around 150 euros, The Bighorn around the same, absolutely unbelievable. Good viv as usual buddy, thanks.
I stopped playing cod cause of the cheating software and I would hate to stop playing division for the same reason I really do like this game
Perfect!
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@@franalexander1913 best to stay away from pvp then, players been using it since Division 1.
I bought one of these to see how to beat the cheats in DIV 1, My team would not use them in the actual game. We got wiped out by a two man team using Cronus in the DZ for hours, when everyone logged off I put mine on my system and went back in and destroyed them. Then put it back in the draw, it's used in so many games. I don't bother with the PVP anymore its just ridiculous. I have a video of people using it against me then their movement is totally unreal
I think bigger part of the Problem is the whole issue behind forced pvp, i know shd lvl doesn’t matter after 900-1000 but still sometimes i help lvl 30-100 shd and these people have no clue when it comes to build, don’t have all watch extras. All the 10%s also absolut no Passion for this whole forced pvp 4 players minimum shd 12 k farming a lvl 30 shd who is just in here to the weekly/daily dz project… it kinda sux
I tried the Dark Zone 4 or 5 times and there is nothing you can do when its not this its groups of 4 going Rogue and hunting in the Extraction zones ... I never went back , let them have there fun against NPCs.. that is why the Darzones are almost empty of players ...
the only solution here is manually searching this kind of players using special UBI game accounts which can collect any data they need, and if cheater is found they MUST permaban that user!! ACCOUNT PERMABAN, IP ADDRESS PERMABAN AND HWID PERMABAN
I dont dont pvp absolutely no dark zone. Everything I need is in light zone. All pvp will always have cheating. I think it will be better is whn someone goes rogue they lose all they skills & it only becomes gunplay. The skills allows cheating to à higher level.
No it is poisoning. And yeah, people that use these for no reason other than they lack skill are trash. This goes back to the study I spoke of in the past. How people are online is who they are IRL. This part of what makes cross play tough
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Truer words have never been spoken!!!! Great video bro
yooo bro you dont talk because MANY MANY members of your clan play with cronus zen but for me no problem because all players play with zen
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@@YouKnoDaVibes u laughing, but it’s the truth 😂
@@creed1741 Yall really insane on this internet, no one in my clan uses cronus. We are just good at pvp. I laugh because i think bad players scape goat is always cronus, its COMEDIC!
CHEATING ON DISPLAY: I saw some clown in the DZ south just wrecking 5 other players and completely owning the server. He had around 550+ TOTAL hours in the game and 23450 DZ SHD agent kills. Do the math on those numbers; it's is just not possible.
Handicapped or not. There should be no switch to be unbeatable in any game.. Period
This is the whole reason I dont enter the dark zone. The few loot pieces I want to collect are not worth the hassle.
A player killed me yesterday one shot with a hand gun; and after looking at his/her build I was like no f**king way
Solid video. I really appreciated you quickly examining the killer's gear, fast enough to catch them swapping loadouts. Great catch. It's not definite "proof" of cheating, but a realistic example of current DZ gameplay.
It’s a cheat so remove it, those who are disabled must find another game or wait till a new type of setup is available for playing division.
It's issues like this that makes it hard for new comers like me to really enjoy the game the way im supposed to its almost discouraging especially when most of the items you need come from The dark zones.
On PC cheats has always been around almost as long as gaming was on PC. I understand when using cheats on a single player game but I really can't condone using cheats on a multiplayer side of games. In PvP, it's one players skills and build vs another players skills and build. But when one uses cheats then what's the point of doing PvP, you're not using skills you learn and picked up playing the game, you're using a code someone wrote to over ride the game mechanics, you're not even really playing the game but just running lines of computer codes vs someone who really put the time and effort into learning the mechanics of the game and gotten good at and just want to see what they can do vs another player.
i will say again, the dark zone is full of cheaters shooting thru walls and lag switching, and they ENJOY IT! they like laffing and killing you in the spawn..i don't care what gear is there i won't go after it.
This hits the nail on the head, you can report all these people to UBs but nothing is done. There is a groupe called Div 1 and 2 community some people on there refuse to admit what is going on and even try to belittle you. Thanks for the vid.
People actually call you cry baby 😂 but I was on the mic saying y'all guys !!! Come on here 24/7 every single day just to cheat they have no life 😆 like they must be living with there parents
I run dz daily it's full of cheats aimbots shooting through walls lag switchers etc
Best way to deal with it is to change servers this is a major problem and has been for a while
This video could not be more true every time I go into the dz no matter what dz it is there is mad cheaters I was in dz east last night and there was 4 Rouge agents not taking any damage hence Kronos zen it seems you can not gain an edge unless you have Kronos and I agree I don't think it's going to stop anytime soon and the sad part is ubisoft knows about it and they either just don't care or they condone it either way Its to the point if you don't cheat you can't win the honor of earning your strength threw hard grinding is gone its sad that players would rather cheat than earn their strength its to the point I don't even like playing pvp because I know it's a matter of time before they come and kill me with the cheating it has become an everyday occurrence and I know heartland will be the same if not worse and I see no end in sight thank you for making this video it is a testament to all those who refuse to cheat to win shout out to all the natural non cheating players we are a dying breed 💯💯💯
I stay out the dark zone because it's juat too frustrating, everytime I went in there was this dude that was just murdering everthing but never going down no matter how many people were firing on them, so I just left it alone
Totally agree with you, redoing the pvp experience, and dark zone concept in order to make it more fair for everyone, and monitor it and place it in a different way is what’s need to be done
His build is all blue but his circle around SHD is solid red it should be solid Blue.
One way to fix DZ is make contractors only proc with LMGs, fox's should only proc with rifles, and insync should be not proc of shields.
Dude that makes alot of sense Idk how hard it would be for the dev's to do it but thst would fix alot.. well put bud
@@arjay8830 mate, I've got some awesome off meta builds for DZ, but, they are just overwhelmed by the damage output of the contractors/fox's combination. For example, System Corruption gear set. It's a DZ exclusive set, but hasn't changed since day 1. How many people use it? As far as I know, me (sometimes).
I understand what your saying compeltley I think your idea would bring some much needed build diversity to the dz.. I mean as of now like you said it's the generic foxes and contractor build or nothing . Well the occasionally status or bulwark tank but other then that noda. And you are right sys corrupt is a great bs but not very effective in the dz unless you have the play style down to t to run it.. I'm with your idea 100 percent bro
I personally don’t use cronos scripts but have played with people who use movement scripts and with enough practice you can straif aswell as these players without using the script. I personally get accused of running cronos and headshot scripts just to the amount of time I have put into pvp and I’m not even the best at it most of the time the player who killed you has just put more hours into pvp and know how to move correctly on a controller I used to accuse people of it when I was just starting out in pvp but now that I can move aswell as people who use the cronos without one I don’t as like I said they were probably just better than me at the time. Not trying to defend the people who do use cronos and scripts but it is a lot fewer people that do than most people think.
As long as you have games you will have people that will find a way to cheat at them. I heard a way to tell if there are users utilizing Cronos is to hit the start button and if there is a white flashing skull over the whitehouse Cronos is active. Don't know if that is true but I have seen it myself several times after I noticed some odd players.
Don’t know if there is cheating. But went out to dz straight into rouge fight. 2 million armour and unbreakable.. and a shield on top. about 9 million armour..
Dead in half a second. How does that happen?? Didn’t even get to close the door… I looked at there build and it was 6 reds damage… Smg lady death…..
Is armour so meaningless??
@Joe Bloggs bro its not locks on the head it just improve ur aim and ur movement my brother use CM and my friends use CZ and u will get a huge advantage if u use mouse and keyboard
That builds solid bro all red lady hit for 1.2 to the head
@@Shd-agent88 ur a cheater
Usually people who are legit play conflict darkzone is either new players farming or hackers farming those noobs
Glad these division UA-camrs are getting content to post and show some sides of the community
Here is some simple but harsh truth when it comes this subject:
If you feel that you need to use a modded controller, 3rd party devices, or scripts to get better at a game that says alot about your skill as a player. People don't want to get better at something by practicing, instead they want the easiest route possible because frankly they don't want their ego bruised. It's really basic psychology when it comes to gaming. If a person is being made fun in real life for let's say for being small, they are going to modify their self, take a steroid, get in the gym etc essentially get bigger= overall feeling of their self. In gaming there is no steroid you can physically take. So they got their ass beat a few times, got tired of it (maybe even got featured in a video) so now they are going to modify how they are; so in this case buy and use 3rd party devices so they can start winning fights, start showing superiority. But at the end of the day both examples know they are NOT that good, only with the use of external items are they good
It’s cool that this was brought up but maybe you should talk about how some people who call themselves division content creators play with these type of people especially on xbox I know a few
Name names.
@@DaGamerDad kongstyle, bishop, betaslapz and I know some people might not like e da ripper but he’s actually smart even though he plays with them type of people himself he called them out a few times in his livestream but some people have an iq of a fucking peanut they say you can’t cheat on console like seriously 🤦🏾♂️
I still have a dark zone I haven't unlocked. I was in there with a group and 8 people were cliqued up and killing everyone. Never again.
I play PVE only because of the players without honor in the DZ.
No honor amongst thieves.
Yes it is killing the game, I don’t even feel like playing div1&2 anymore because of all of the cheaters and hackers
Very good video, and I think they should do more youtubers giving this content. But I will tell you something, if the divison 2 separates the PVE from the PVP and sells it separately, I doubt very much that the PVP will sell more than the PVE, because both on console and on PC it is mining as a cheat and that is that Ubisoft does not this game is interesting, remember that the 1 never, never, never even showed their faces and was the strongest PVP of the moment...
How do we eliminate it. It is so clear many are using this
hes not totally wrong about this i cant stand cheats now ill run cheats on a single player game or on a just build in chill like on the forest but to pvp with hacks or glitches makes me wunt to explode ik i hear dark zone and get annoyed thinking about the cheaters ik i have found atleast 2 like 5 head shots with a smg from 3 blocks away like come on and another dude took 3 peoples fire and didnt lose any armor so ive had a few issues myself
Just begun TD2 2 weeks ago, what is the statuts on cheaters please ? Is it playable ?! Thanks in advance for any hints :)
What's the point of playing a game that a cheat is playing for you and bragging about it ?? its pointless only worthy of a spoiled to the bone kid who was rewarded by its mom for failing all his life ! Sometime these cheaters are getting caught live on UA-cam leaving their hacking software displayed live on their stream page they make perfect asses of themselves !
That would be on pc and btw crones is trash for div it can’t do more than anti recoil
its the main reason my circle doesn't play in the dz
2 years later and ONIKAGE still plays this pathetic build by shooting you through corners and lag switching. He is like top 3 in DZ kills. It was meant to meet him in this video
I've been saying this for years, give the cheaters their own dz and ban them from the rest of the game.
anyone who thinks the DZ is legit is completely dreaming , don't even bother
Crinus Zen Max is not the real problem. If you're better than a player using it you can still manage to pull out a win. The real problem is that there is no way (yet) to detect the scripts and hacks that players run through their computers while playing the game.
Agreed with you! It is simple learn the movement burst strafe cut strafe basic strafe.If you know these movements you will be better player in dz or conflict.
It's been here for a long time, since Division 1 and it's not just this game it's being used everywhere.
It can't be detected so can't ban so yeah...
Nothing you can do.
The chronus max cheaters are why i stopped playing division 1 to begin with and quickly within the first year of release the division 2 was lost to the same problem and i for one just stopped playing altogether even though i enjoy the dark zone content.
It will not be addressed. They are considered "controller mods". This isn't a new problem in the division universe either. People were using them in TD1 with shotguns + Rapid Fire mod to clap in the DZ...This actually lead to Massive nerfing the fire rate amd ADS time of the SASG Shotty. I don't know that they can address the issue, but if they could add an icon over the players head or next to their gamertag, that would be a start. Let the pre/post game lobbies handle it from there haha.
Than comes some of you audience to say "Oh, you are overreacting cause I go to DZ 80% of my play time and I don't see people using hacks. You can't say everyone is using hacks! Bla, bla, bla"
Cattle!!!
Honestly one of the biggest issues for me is the horrible ticks on the DZ servers, man. So often I'm taking dmg seconds after I seemed to get hit which totally fucks up any kind of movement flow, and the lag switch walls are bad, really bad, as in almost every single time theres a manhunt happening I'm running into invisible walls. These two things are the worst honestly because it fucks my movement. I could care less about someone using scripts; if you put time in and get proficient with headshots and put together a decent hsd build you can easily counter the strafing tank crit guys. Eh, whatever, PvP still kinda sucks now tho.
Yesterday I told a player that he killed me with the exact same build that I had but his with incredible damage
Because inbuilt cheats have been done away with almost ,that these devices become popular
Loved my ps1/2 action replay back in the day & extended the lifespan of my games no end
Cronus and Cheating is nothing new, and as far back as I can remember, from the div1 days, is most players that get slapped around a few times will just say that their opponent is running Cronus, even if they are not using it, The thing about Cronus and division is that the PvP Community is small and you will run into the same names periodically,. And if your good at PvP or just better then the player your going up against then most likely you will be accused for running cronus, even if your not. Now, I’m Not saying players don’t use it, because their is plenty that do, but if you were to ask me if cronus is what’s killing PvP or why players don’t play PvP,, I would say No! Cronus alone is not why people don’t play, or what’s killing PvP. PvP is just flat out broken, and far from balanced. Cronus is honestly the least of the problems in Div 2 PvP. Because if that was solely the problem, then why would the first division game have more players playing PvP then the second game.
Disagree. Yes the game is broken. But cheating in PVP is the no.1 biggest problem with this game hands down. Cheating means the game doesn't have integrity. Once that's gone, it doesn't matter if the game is balanced or fixed. Hope that makes sense.
@@maximus4everjay119 no the problem is you, thinking anyone that kills your or outplays you must be cheating. That’s literally your logic, you don’t even stop to think or even analyse what happened or why you died. It’s just easier for you to throw on a glass cannon skill build and cry “cheater” right?
I lost my left eye to cancer at 8 months old! I don't use those things! I am competitive! I like my Astro c40 and my Xbox Elite 2 controller! They also use a level 30 purple pistol with ignite on it for a damage glitch in the DZ! They used to ban people for using chronos!
I’m so not interested in the heartland and what it’s trying to do.I don’t think it will well.Time well tell.
Your forgetting about the strike pack that does the same thing as coronus max
No it doesn’t you need to do your Homework bud
I had to take a break from DZ last night, a player kept one shooting me and other players. The player would hang around DZ entry points and just one shot us. Not a fun night.
Why ubisoft do nothing with report players?
Thought these were patched already on ps4 database overall? I had the collective minds strike pack FPS dominator and not long later Sony released a patch for the rapid fire mechanism. Maybe it’s still different for the Cronus zen I’m not sure but who wouldn’t take advantage of something like this? I admit it’s stupid but at the end of the day it’s like you’re refusing to use the best mechanic in a game, hence Cronus. Even while making it apparent to everybody that’s it’s there, expecting people to not use this is after the fact is corny. Maybe this was an attempt to overload players with this idea in hopes for someone to recognize and patch, but sadly those days are probably long gone.
In other words don’t be a Dick, this is something I would highly recommend for players going against npc’s or higher difficulties trying to progressively level up.
It can't be detected since it uses the controller to hide itself.
They'd literally have to redesign controllers and somehow stop the old ones from functioning, it's not possible.
Cronus will forever be a thing.
i’m a simple old gamer who uses no cheat codes, no nothing, just on my ps4, my xp and shd points, i tried dark zone n it was no fun! i tried to get some gear and all i was, was a target for rogue’s! my shd level is in the 600’s and i can hear them ripping my gear and shd level!! these kids were just running around killing you soon as you try to extract the low level gear, to them! but they were still killing me n taking my gear! their shd levels were in the thousands!!! question…how do get in the thousands on your shd level?!? hope this helps
SHD level is a factor of XP gains. Each time you gain about 700000 xp you gain one SHD level point.
Farm Supply Convoys with your map on at least challenging leval. Also put at least 3 directives. You'll level up one every time you complete one. It's broken still and gives way more XP than it says it's supposed to.
I don’t think that the developers are going to do anything about it because they used it on the division one game so the game will stay ruined for everyone
PC cheaters are on a next level. And they put their preferred cheats in their username. No shame..
My Clan TACJOC specifically goes after higher ranking, toxic, cheaters, hackers, and known name Rogues! If they Bull new or inexperienced players we also bully those overly toxic Rogues as well. We enjoy killing players with lag and high end cheats!
Why are you still playing this game ?? Ubisoft don’t give a crap about it’s players.
Got fed-up myself of its redundancies having to redo the same maps over and over just to get an exotic we already owned and move to other game like Outriders but they too have servers problems but at lease its all new to me !
Which game out there would provide similar gameplay and mechanics?
That all blue build is another take on kamakazevondooms immune to everything build
ONIKAGE cheater 100%
Met him 2 days ago,10 people did report and he still here. Ubisoft is trash 🗑
Cronus Zen is a huge problem but nobody wanna talk about scripts. Nobody cares cuz CRONUS is undectactable and you can’t eve handcam cus it’s Bluetooth compatible. Now here is a trick to catch them. If they stream you will notice his controller keep getting disconnected and that’s because of the Bluetooth it has a very weak signal that drops in and out 😉
U can buy a PS5 dongle for Zen to stop it disconnecting
@@Im2Exquisite why don’t we just stop using it point blank
@@Calaxanasgaming that would be nice, but it’s never going to happen
Cal - (forget our past conversations, just here to add to your comment)
Hand cams are mainly to show no use of Mouse and Keyboard, streamers (like I have done on stream) can also show they have nothing plugged in their consoles if they move their camera to show the console
@@UkZzMIKEJAMES true
Why won't more content creators make videos addressing cheaters in the DZ.?
The devs said awhile ago, they don't give a hoot about people using cronus unfortunately
Hence why I have a 3rd character locked at WT5 dead DZ’s easy looting for items and dz coins
Cronus has been ruining Consoles for decades, hard to tell in D2 because of no killcams. It is more VISIBLE in CoD, which is more popular in.
It is what it is.
Cronus is used not just in shooters but also in fighting games.
Overall it is hard to tell and I’m not a game dev or a hacker so I do not know how hard it is to program games to detect Cronus or any other programs/scripts on consoles.
division can solve this problem by making ppl going to dark zones can toggle switch between attackable and not by other players haah. perhaps the cheaters are the developers themselves .. to have fun.
Ubisoft in general has a big cheating issue across all their pvp modes/ games. Imo due to a lack of experience with multiplayer pvp games...
I play a ton of r6 siege on pc and console and cheating there is so bad it has distorted the entire ranked system... I got the division so I could play pve & escape all the cheating, which makes me not wanna even try the darkzone as avoiding the cheater infestation was the reason for me trying out the division in the first place...
Cheating in R6 Siege happens in causual too, few weeks ago i ran into cheater who never missed a shot and marked bomb in prep phase within 2 seconds of round start when he was still outside with a dron. Thats why i returned to the Division 2 but only for PvE, im not going to DZ since D1 was plagued with cheaters and 4 player groups who were resskilling everyone when they entered, i know you could just go to another DZ entrance but you will run into them again eventually.
@@Raven777777777777777 ahaha damn, you too g I feel your pain my guy... u on console or pc?
@@ARC_00-o3r Im on PC, if i dont count that one old nintendo or whatever it was (games were on small cassettes and it was about 20 years ago) we never had a console. A while ago i got PS2 from scrap yard so im trying to make it work but thats it.
@@Raven777777777777777 cool 👌👌
Thanks brother! Information is king! 👍🏼😎👍🏼
Lol that’s O-N-I-K-A-G-E he’s a little kid with sweaty hands he doesn’t cheat. And that build he wears I actually put out a video on how hard it is to kill ONIKAGE with that build kids a sweaty
I figured. I know he didn't cheat after evaluating his damage.
Your playing on PS4 -PS5 that who killed you was wearing an all blue meta build.
The ONLY WAY to stop this idiots is by breaking privacy in a sense that gaming services MUST HAVE your ISP direct IP address they give you to have internet access to perma-ban. That's only in a utopian sense, but will never see the light of day.
Cheaters will keep on making accounts in either Epic store or Ubisoft, so there's no true stopping.
I can say the same for the "efficient armor glitch" but it is what it is. Theres a difference between player skills vs script skills. I see the Efficient glitch as a script glitch.
It’s not a glitch nor is it a script, why comment on something about it when you clearly have no idea how it works?
Onikage is a known cheater man. Modifiedaim and hpq7 literally 3 cheaters that have been in the dz since day 1. Been reported literally by 8 people at once in dz south... Still playing, still cheating..
When you mag dump into a players head and not one once of armor goes down. That is what the death of DZ is. It’s garbage. You go out and hunt down what you want or need. Then you have the “GREAT PLAYERS’ that just sit at the extraction point and shoot you and take you stuff. They don’t play they just sit there. I haven’t been to the DZ since the the day the game made you go the first time and haven’t played there since Division 1. DZ is dead.
That dude you ran into is one of the bigest PS5 cheaters. Beware.
Tbh if you didn’t know about cronos max from D1 you’re not an agent nor rouge
Its to bad because that ever get fixed ive played this game from the start it hasnt changed at all from the zen to the glitches .Such a great game but out of control the Divs really dont care .
I've played d1 & d2 pvp and i can honestly say there have been cheaters in both games which have ruined certain patches but it did not ruin the game, division is more complicated than other games when it comes to movement my advice to players who wish to pvp learn the movement and ads patterns it will help you play better against or even beat Cronus, MnK, strike pack players cuz in the end none of these devices are going anywhere and they will be here moving forward which yes will suck to the casual player and sucks for true player ranking
Ppl are immune to damage becoming invisible division is finished
The zen makes you hit 99.9% of headshots an can make you zig zag so good bullets phase through you its so toxic the dz is full of so many cheaters now its disgusting
It lets you map your controller to a mouse and keyboard. Which has less recoil using a mouse, and the side strafing is just a button.
Its bad when you run into good players using mouse and keyboard, but this is an overall problem not game related. Cronus works on every game, just like modded controllers did. I'm sure anyone who played cod was killed by a drop shot mod on a controller at least once.
I have so many videos recorded of ppl cheating it’s making me not even wanna pvp anymore
Can you share some, please. I’ll be happy to analyze them in videos if possible.
These devices should be sold like parking spots for handicapped people, with the handicapped permit. But they will never do that, because they will lose money. 99% of the players that use this devices are not handicapped, are just bad at aiming or to lazy to learn how to control a stick or even a mouse oooor they use it as an excuse because others use cronus as well...Btw...cronus works also with a mouse...I ordered a cronus zen a few months ago just to see what the fuss is about....I can say with an open heart...for those 10-15 minutes that I played with it I felt like the most trash player in the world. All the tests were made with my friends...so no other unknown players were involved. And my aim with the stick is most of the time on target and on m&k I am not that bad either. But with the cronus....dude....I was a god, sniping people from distance, no recoil, I didn't even have to aim to hit someone....they could not even see me. I returned the fuc%er the next day. I know how a good player aims and how a cronus user aims...but unfortunately there is not much we can do. The wais to stop this nonsense is to be illegal to sell this kind of devices or microsoft/sony just put a hard stop on plug and play devices, except storage devices
An easy tips for those whose use m&k and there movement so fast its so simple just use bleed that's it
That guy ONIKAGE u have no idea how many times we farm him and his squad
The fact that someone had to buy cheats is trash simple.
If its not included with your controller, or its added on, YOU SHOULD BE BANNED! YOUR CHEATING. End of discussion.
LOL STF U little kid go cry to mommy bot
I don’t even understand how people can even say D2 pvp is good. It’s trash complete trash bro smh and to be honest people been using them Cronus devices Since D1 I just learn to live with it now it is what it is.
That's exactly why I don't go in the DZ
I play in DZ everyday I can hold my own but them Cronus max zen users you don’t stand a chance they hit al head shots and shoot through walls and kill you one shot
The cheats are not killing PVP. The mechanics of the PVP is killing PVP. TD2 community is not a PVP one, even tho it tries to be.
Nah the cheats are a problem
unfortunately the game in pvp is bad, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make logical sense like pvp, you have the possibility to be reborn endless times, to change spawn, so already in itself it is badly studied as pvp, then the cheaters have finished destroying a game that is already badly done in pvp .. a lot and that cheaters often play 1 Vs 1, ... then they live by rules between cheaters, they don't kill each other, but they join together to make a team .... and ridiculous all this ... the fault lies with MASSIV who did nothing to stop all this, thus causing the game to die .. I remember a big ban they did, due to glitches in PVE ... while those who cheat in PVP do not was banned ... this killed the game completely...
Heard call of duty did a nerf on unhuman like accuracy
The game is in the hands of the developers and administrator's not a security code ai or team design the game so everyone has cheats or don't and take the hackers side to use alternative methods to have or do things in your game that is not intended, I remember back when n64 golden eye James bond at the cheat menu to turn the stuff on or off like super speed, big head, one shot kill without golden gun heck even golden gun was boss to play with now it's all classified taboos n god rolls on a fake god mode that you didn't earn by beating the game to unlock it so ya the 90s an early 2000 to 2013 was gaming golden era.
Just like last night I was in the dark Zone and someone one tap me with the eagle Barrel and he was a Cronus
Someone really has to fix it