2023 NEWS: HUGE BAN WAVE - Lots of people banned 17.05.2023, some temporary, some permanent. It took 9 months after Yannick claimed he was banning cheaters for it to become the truth.
Wow. Disgusting. I’m not even on PC and this just reassures my hiatus from the game. I think the biggest problem is, compared to a game like COD/ warzone where there’s thousands of cheaters, there’s also so many people playing you can easily back out and find a new lobby. With div it’s a skeleton crew still keeping the pvp alive so you’re going to run into these low life’s constantly. Sad.
Yeah, if you want to persecute a particular player it's piss easy to do, you can totally ruin a player's experience if you care to, and I know coz I've done it a little myself to some unsavoury characters.
@@Cryptonomous yea I mean DZ is basically just a virtual school ground lol. It all becomes so personal. Such a unique experience at least that I’ve seen, compared to any other pvp games.
The other thing from my experience with division 2 so far is division is mainly a PVE game that have PVP areas for when you're bored of re-running the same missions. COD was actually built as a fully PVP game that they added a story to for when you want a change in pace. Most game companies should just make a pve & a pvp game separately imo
I was in love with a game wich I can't play anymore. Last time I went online I got killed by a teleporting guy with rpm on pistol. GG! We've all been hoping and waiting for far too long for something to change. These devs don't care about PvP. That's a fact imo. Good vid! Thanks for that! 🙋🏻♂️
Also how as consumers are we supposed to be confident about the cheating state of Heartland, a F2P GAME, at release and in the long term when they can't ban a handfull of repeating cheaters on a almost 5 years old game. Because lets face it the odds that the Division 2 cheaters don't come to Heartland are the same as Yannick knowing what's the state of the division 2 pvp from a cheater stand point. Instead of banning players asking pvp questions on there twitch lives, they should put that same energy into hiring people to review clips, reports and stats to alleviate the cheating problem in this game. Or if they don't want to hire people use the community and create a task force of pvp focused players that would be able to directly send reports to devs for a review.
They could create a system where actual genuine reports are sent in by the community via a forum where players can post evidence ALL PUBLIC, if there are false reports then it can be seen and corrected by other players, in this forum the playerbase that's involved would be able to gather plenty of intel to rat out the cheaters, get them banned making the game more enjoyable for everyone. But of course since everything in this world is about being all inclusive and all that rubbish they won't allow witchunting when it is the BEST solution. If dodgy things happen and u think it's cheats, post your PoV, then the other player has a chance to explain or post counter PoV, this system would also educate the other players who may chose to lurk and take from rather than I put their own. In turn the false reports would drop DRAMATICALLY allowing the dev team or publisher to sift through more accurate cheat reports in a timely fashion resulting in cheaters like Panzer + Pazzo never getting beyond a couple hundred hours. Will any of this happen? Likely not. But these witch hunting rules HAVE GOT TO GO! All it does is protect cheaters!
@@Cryptonomous Sadly we both know that the focus is on pve because Heartland is supposed to be "THAT THING" that's gonna make division pvp players happy. I think that any person from the community that support the idea that pvp should be a different entity appart from The Division main game is just a fool. What's makes the Division SPECIAL is that seamless transition between the pve and pvp aspect of the game thx to the dark zone. The Dark Zone should be and his the endgame of the division. It's that thing that keep the progression going when you hit the max level by making you learn to fight another person because at the end of the day a video game AI is always made to be beaten. That's what scares or upset most of the people about the DZ : the struggle of having to learn how to beat something that wasn't made to be beaten. A perfect example to showcase that are the hunters or pve rogues. No one complains about them but both are made to replicate the way a human would play and are here to kill for no reason other than increase the difficulty of ur mission. What's the difference from a dark zone rogue ? None other than one being programmed to be just difficult enough to be beaten. All that to say that those devs have the wrong priorities partially because they listen the wrong people within the community.
Could u imagine if Hunters didn't announce their presence and instead insta beamed u in the back, thats what PvP is like, you see that hunter sitting cover? Well now he just pop shotted u before he peeked, thats PvP, you see how u get insta beamed to 1HP and left to live, well in PvP u dont live, players dont have mercy. The game like you said is designed to hand hold you almost every step of the way, the moment you put these players in an ACTUAL tough situation they crumble down into little pieces or fold up in a foetal position and cry mamy. The point is there are far too many casual players who think its their right to enter the DZ and have it as easy as the open world. But WHAT ABOUT MY DZ EXCLUSIVES wahhhhhhh, ok maybe they are EXCLUSIVES for a reason, the same way EB and Regulus which are both TOP TIER PvP weapons are RAID ONLY EXCLUSIVES. The devs need to explain this to the playerbase because they still have not learnt after almost 7 years now what the DZ is and is meant to be. A brutal and tough end game. Instead what they have done is pander to the trash players and the casuals via overpowered gear, weapons and talents & DZ turrets which have bred a player so useless it beggars belief as to how they even managed to complete WONY. We have 3 Dark Zone, why not make 3 different rule sets to appeal to the different players? 1. Hardcore ODZ - Shoot on sight, aka friendly fire, toggle rogue an option not a requirement, no turrets (spawn protection instead, 3-5s immunity while walking) SHD Watch + Expertise. XP is increased and loot quality is Heroic, higher chance at a DZ Exclusive named items or Exotics. 2. Half Normalised DZ - Toggle to go rogue, no turrets, XP + Loot quality is challenging, SHD Watch - No expertise. 3. Fully Normalised DZ - Toggle to go rogue, turrets + spawn protection, XP + Loot quality is Hard level, NO SHD - NO Expertise. No need then to make the game shit to help these players, help them via a bracket, a DZ option that suits them best.
Let's hope some actual dedicated PvP players get into the ETF to make the game better going forward, to think we are in year 4 and they have just turned a blind eye to basically anything PvP gives us a good impression that PvP will either be non existent in Div 3 or again just be an afterthought, when 90% of OCE Div 2 DZ (PC) players have going back to Div 1 DZ says alot about the game....
This has been an issue also, they always have picked the wrong people to listen to regarding PvP, they need to look at different types of players opinions, Casual DZ players, PvE players going into the DZ, Mid-Tier PvP players and the 1%. The problem is they will likely only listen for PvP feedback from PvE minded players, they need a variety of players opinions that cover the spectrum of all players that go DZ or play PvP.
@@Cryptonomous Div beta DZ 1 was the best darkzone experience the community has ever had. It's probably because everyone had little to know equipment or whatever but geezus it was the right mix of tension and antagonization. Those were the times where you don't really feel bad for being killed by a rogue because the only thing you could possibly say is "oh shit, he did a fast one on me". They should study and replicate how was it that the Div 1 Beta DZ was loved by many.
@@FocusedCat i reckon these are rose tinted glasses talking, it was for me also such a novel experience, but like everything in life u get to know it eventually loses that novelty and becomes well, something else... But this is what updates are for, game changing updates, not just balance passes every 10 years, we need actual game changing updates every few months, look at fortnite, that game was kept alive and well thru such updates and garnered a huge presence, the division got some updates, some game changing aspects but too few and far between.
The main reason I’ll never play on PC. I’ll wait till consoles catch up lmao. PC is amazing don’t get me wrong… but y’all got knob heads like this who will ruin it for everyone all because they suck at the game themselves. Then dare to call it “having fun” NO your salty, sad, and clearly forever upset that you couldn’t progress to a skill level sufficient enough to not cheat. Great video man
As you know, I don't play the game... After they reverted the patch and brought back previously fixed bugs (which is just comedic by itself), I was just done with the game. It's a clunky mess, buggy af, dead and they aren't going to do anything about cheaters, their only hope is EAC and evidently even that isn't enough to stop it. Any division title released for me now is not even on the agenda and that's a sad reality because division 1 was my favourite game for a while. Anyways, good vid man and shame you have to put up with the shit. GGs
Considering Divisions track record of rampant cheating since Div 1 I'm just concerned what Heartland is gonna be like if they don't heavily prioritize AC cuz A: it's F2P, and B: it (reportedly) has crossplay Game could be a gem but it ain't gonna mean anything if cheaters infest it..
Well, the anti cheat in div 2 has prevented the most absurd cheats from being a thing, we just have speedhack, shoot through objects up to around 200m away, aimbot, RPM, and a few others, but TD1 has some crazy shit.
I stopped playing this game months ago, because the cheaters ruined it for me. I really injoyed the gaming and playing online with my friends. Can't even keep a positive attitude when playing it. That's because I played on council and PC for nearly 5k hours combined. Bugs and cheaters just made it not enjoyable.
Massive was so proactive applying a ban and rollback to all who were using the turret damage glitch mostly for PVE 2 yeats ago and even here they messed up banning the wrong players. The report feature is like a placebo pill persuading the community they care about the game. How can you guys still support this game??
I stopped playing Div 2 after TU 15. I officially quit. Is the game getting any better and is it worth returning too? From your last vid post I would say prob not it's been 4 months right? Either way it was a good run and I thank you Crypto for making div 2 content. You were the one who taught me mostly what I know now to succeed in this dogshit game.
Just a reminder you can literally close the anticheat on launch and play the game without anticheat running....But yeah, sure Yannick i'll wait two more years for server stability. Good Video as always
I spoke to some cheaters, they say u cannot launch the cheat after u launch the game, if EAC is closed u cant launch the game, so as much as i thuoght that meant something maybe it doesnt mean anything, unless of course there cheats u can run post launch.
THIS is my biggest concern for the upcoming Division Heartland. If they don't have a good... NO! It had better be a Godly Anti-Cheat system, or the cheaters will kill the game faster than anything. I NEVER go into the Dark Zone any longer, the last time I did I was shooting a guy running at me, almost had him dead, he took cover in front of me then teleported behind me and 1 shot me. I left and never went back.
I'm sooo glad you guy's at massive have posted this it make me want to return in the DARK ZONE and conflict. Please send more undercover gamers to catch more cheaters . It's a big step forward on putting the booth to the neck of cheaters. Crush the cheating communities, stop them in there place make examples of them for when they think of cheating. Make the DARK ZONE great again. 👍😁👍
All players that are being banned should be published with the reason why they were banned and the cheat used. If Massive is serious about their game they will act immediately they become aware and update the player base accordingly. More people including myself will then return to the DZ apart from the 1 or 2 hours per week to do my daily projects.
I wonder why a lot of the gaming and bigger gaming channels, don't come together and call for people to stay off these games and literally stop playing, until the devs do something serious about the problem and cheating and these cheaters must be getting some kind of inside help, to come up with the hacks to keep doing what they do and are the devs who make the games, not able to come up with a permanent way to ban anyone that cheats or detect anyone that has the ability to cheat, plus ban people who invite cheaters into a games permanently and see if that helps the problem, these people are destroying a lot of people's enjoyment and time we've put into these games, money and bad press talks. If people don't play and the devs and companies get an ish tone of bad press for what they are allowing, things will have to change
It's hard to do, too many of these UA-camrs are only out there for themselves, just look at some of the guys around the 40-50k sub range, their content is atrocious but everyone watches them, they are sellouts who have played the system well but suck as actual content creators, you're not gonna get a plea from them to boycot the game, they make too much money from it.
Out of all the console bot bullshit we have to deal with daily, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with this type of shit. I feel so bad for you and all the dedicated good players having shit absolutely ruined for them just because of shitcan robots that totally ruin the game, Oh but they're being banned right?
In The Division 1, a new wave of bans had to wait from the end of last year, 10 months. And that's not going to save this game. Soon the same will happen with TD2
I used to report cheats and modders but finally gave up. If companies like Ubisoft or EA or whoever truly wanted to get rid of cheats they wouldn't ban the individual; they would simply ban the device. If a cheat has to spend 500 dollars or so to get back on it would disappear. Problem is they don't want to do that for fear they would lose to much of their customer base. I finally gave up and no longer play any pvp. There are still cheats on pve but they don't attract the same attention. Good luck
I remember getting division 1 and being disappointed that it was not like they said in the trailer but they game was alright until the cheaters came in, the DZ was full of cheaters and after a while I cheated just so I could use esp to avoid people and got banned. It didnt matter that I was using it to try and avoid people who cheated to kill people and the fact that almost everyone was cheating and it forced me to cheat so I can understand why some people cheat. The fact is the people who make cheats are smarter than the people making the game and cheaters rune the game and in this game I stopped playing it because I do not want to cheat again and going in pvp is just frustrating. I do not know how hard it is to have GM's in a game that can see a report and investingate right away but I would have thought having a gm that can see a report and teleport to that reported player and investigate right away who solve the problem.
Right, I keep saying what is £30000/yr in the budget of a AAA game, just hire some guy who's sole job is to investigate reports and ban cheaters, keep the game clean. Do you have any idea how much of that £30000 can be made up by legit players returning and buying skins etc Massive really missed the ball on the MTXs, they could have kept the game clean and made more money.
Dunno how to start this off actually 😅, I guess they are actually more interested in banning people who so called exploited a glitch in game with a shield and turret as well ban those who even didn't do this glitch than look at the exploits in PvP.. These Devs don't even care about this game anymore, they even delay more things within this game. This game has so much potential that it's going backwards and not forwards in my eyes they could do so much yet I feel it's too late please don't get me wrong I enjoy this game yet I feel the Devs don't really know or in fact care what this community has to say about it and to me that is sad.
The thing is we have a completely different dev team, some OGs sure but the vast majority are replacements, they have to undo the spaghetti code left by the people prior and these guys have managed to launch a major TU15 patch bringing back old glitches and exploits. Its not a good look thus far. They need to up their game.
There was only 1 time I thought they did something and it turned out to be a freak death which was later explained. A trap hit him and he ran into me, so basically a non rogue player killed me -a non rogue player via trap glitch.
This is exactly why I only do PVE... Fair play is impossible when you have a shit ton of circle jerk rejects cheating... The DZ should be solo play unless you manually choose PVP..
Not coming back till PVP is looked into and action is taken against cheating players. I LOVED THIS GAME MORE THAN ANY GAME ON PLAYSTATION AND STILL DO. BUT CHEATING HAS RAPED THIS GAME WITHOUT PENALTIES..
I don't think they have the team do to sth, based on the amount of screwups from a dev point of view, i think actively managing cheaters is the last things on their mind. Add another PvE feature to play, there we fix it (fix to be read as f***) :))
By numbers, the game with highest amount of cheaters is Fortnite ... guess which is the anticheat there 😂. Unfortunately there is a lot of people loving The Division as game (including TD1 and TD2) who we have decided do not play it anymore due to the uncontrolled status of the cheating in PVP. I love PVP in this game and I won't play anymore, as commented Grumpy_DNA below. I am average, but even not being a great player, the PVP sessions in this game when we found a great server with no cheaters and balanced teams were incredible. Even when you played vs the best legit teams in the game in 8 vs 4, it was really funny as well. IMHO the cheaters and the excesive power of the skills builds (very often a full team was destroyed by 1 guy launching shtt at a big distance) have broken the PVP in DZ. What is sure is that Yannick is denying the evidence: there are cheaters in the game from the beginning not banned yet.
I don't play PVP anymore and I'm on a console. What pissed me off was gangs of low IQ teenagers waiting at extraction points. It became a pointless exercise farming for gear you can now get outside DZ. But camping outside the entry points and you've got no gear - why?
people play the game for pvp, if u enter the dark zone you accept a fight at any point, extractions exist purely for players to fight over the loot, after players have their loot they have no desire to kill for loot but for blood, its literally the reason a lot of players even bought the game to do.
@@Cryptonomous I would say a large % of the time it is. As a PC player I know it would be higher due to the nature of the platform. But I have tried may build and playstyle, yet always seem to come across a player who roll through the 4 of us!
I don't know what the problem is to get rid of dishonest people in this game.... After all, the game is played by 100 people maximum. some remaining unpunished attract others to also play dishonestly.
Yannick has no respect for his game, no respect for his company but most of all no respect for players. He doesnt know what he is doing and certainly he does not care at all. How do you trust a man like this and spend your valuable time for his game? Im done long time ago. Heartland will not be better. I almost feel so sad for them.
I've send videos with evidence how the cheaters are oprating and still I see them playing in the game, some just changed their name and are just doing the same as before. The cheaters even admit what they are doing and are laughing at ubisoft because they know they won't get banned. Today I made another video and also here you can see in his comment what he thinks about ubisoft. Some of them are even proud of what they do.... So thank you ubisoft for not doing what you need to do.
It wont, but u can launch the game _then_ close the Anti-Cheat, afaik u cant launch some cheats after the game has booted, but who knows, with some u might be able to, this is why FairFight needs to be relied upon + the report system actually being used.
I don't see them quite that often but sometimes it's days in a row, server after server, some days u see no high level cheaters, low level ones u can still farm.
think i have been on the game a handfull of times in the last 2 months really have lost the love for this game for this reason the amount of people who was inviting people like pazzo or even rotaru (i know he does not heavy cheats) i the bad thing about it is so many people dont understand the game and its problems that if they get killed they insta call cheats on you me and all the other decent players so invite the fuckers who actually cheat you totally hit the nail on the head
The problam is that a lot of "good" players get exposed , i think the pc community 50% play with cheat or aim assist , the biggest problem is that the anticheat is verybad , not updated etc . A lot of game braking bugs , and a top of the 2k+ hours playtime cheaters its fucked so many ways ... Heartland is dead before is even launched , its gonna be the cheaters playroom.
As a temporary solution, we decided to significantly reduce Shrapnel Trap efficiency in PvP in order to dissuade players from using it. Como solução temporária, decidimos reduzir significativamente a eficiência da Armadilha de Estilhaços no PvP para dissuadir os jogadores de usá-la. PLANEJADO PARA A TU16.1🎉🎉🎉🎉
It's disappointing that the pvp side is so populated but such low life's. And with the mountain of evidence across the years showcasing these scumbags and nothing is done is concerning that it does seem to matter.
Man everything outta this game just reeks of shit ever since I reinstalled it Fucking unresolved performance and server errors, crashing upwards of 10 times in a row, render engine failures, rampant undetectable cheaters (thank christ I don't PvP in this game) Fucking shit being poorly balanced, be it extremely powerful or "when was the last time you've seen this thing, oh wait, it was shit when it was released and hasn't gotten changed whatsoever" I really want to uninstall this game and personally fucking scare these devs into doing something useful because it's all I fucking see nowadays in any game I take interest into Destiny 2, Hunt showdown, Division 2, fucking warframe to a degree (but honestly I've been pretty okay with some of the stuff except for the grind for some shit) Honestly those clips look so much like the Destiny 2 Trials of Osiris AC-130 cheaters Pretty much every single one of them I've gotten so pissed off with that I wanna tear my fucking eyes out, fuck it I hope to god that many devs nowadays are fucking used as lessons as what not to fucking do with their work, like fuck dude
I applied, but they wont accept me most likely, they like to invite clueless PvE players to talk about PvP, IMO people should ONLY be able to sign up for either PvP or PvE, this way u only invite purists who will actually know about their respective game mode, for example I have NO PLACE IN TALKING ABOUT PVE I DONT CARE ABOUT IT. By the same merit PvE players have NO PLACE TO TALK ABOUT PVP. An opinion here and there can be gathered but not as candidates for the ETF. Im just scared they will listen to players who whine about everything and not the ones who know this game down to its fundamental basics.
7:44 surprised he talking this much. Once he's alone then it's open season. Guys like this tend to make me laugh. I wonder what's stopping the hacker from turning on him and whooping him? Probably money. This almost make me glad to be in console.
I know as annoying how every cheaters are. Now imagine the cheaters that some to ruin the servers only take out the ones that called them over. Just a random thought.
Hi, a question to everyone and Crypto. Can someone explain to me if it is possible for people to cheat like this on the XBOX platform? I know we have the Cronus/XIM/Titan2 players with MnK - but can this stuff happen on XBOX like in the video? My understanding is it is impossible to inject code into the game on console and you cannot manipulate DLLs. I would just like a possible explanation if some type of cheats (Iwantcheats) can be done on consoles. I hear a lot of players calling others out for aimbot/aim trace etc... Your responses would be greatly appreciated.
You can not do anything of the sort on a console. Anyone claiming otherwise is full of shit, I ask you to challenge them to prove it, they will fail miserably.
That would be great if they can banned cheaters or temp banned players using exploits but unfortunately I don't see that happening. I got banned when the dmg exploit with the torrent was happening and you wanna know something "I DIDN'T EVEN KNEW ABOUT IT" 🤣 I was a new player back then and was surprised when I got banned for absolutely no reason. That shows that they have absolutely no clue who's cheating or who's not. It's sad 😔 such a great franchise with poor management.
Temp banning for exploits would just be a cop out and make devs not actually bother in fixing those exploits. Unless of course you talk about the serious ones like going invisible, teleporting etc, those are gamebreakinf exploits that do deserve temp banning.
CCCP_LAKI, CCCP_BULDOZER, CCCP_Pazzo . thats the named guys i meet yesterday all shoot through walls. And what i found here CCCP_Pazzo still not banned and this video is from 13.08
What has the good game came too. If your doing good and not dying people think ur cheating. So then they have to resort to actually cheating and I send to ubisoft but the devs don't care ....
I don't understand that they say they banned the cheaters, and here they are, so whats up? And l understand that the cheaters don't have any common sense or otherwise, its how they were raised, so they watched their parents and other adults, and learns to be slimmy...
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2023 NEWS: HUGE BAN WAVE - Lots of people banned 17.05.2023, some temporary, some permanent.
It took 9 months after Yannick claimed he was banning cheaters for it to become the truth.
Wow. Disgusting. I’m not even on PC and this just reassures my hiatus from the game. I think the biggest problem is, compared to a game like COD/ warzone where there’s thousands of cheaters, there’s also so many people playing you can easily back out and find a new lobby. With div it’s a skeleton crew still keeping the pvp alive so you’re going to run into these low life’s constantly. Sad.
Yeah, if you want to persecute a particular player it's piss easy to do, you can totally ruin a player's experience if you care to, and I know coz I've done it a little myself to some unsavoury characters.
@@Cryptonomous yea I mean DZ is basically just a virtual school ground lol. It all becomes so personal. Such a unique experience at least that I’ve seen, compared to any other pvp games.
@@styles-wasd96dolan77 it really is exactly like that
The other thing from my experience with division 2 so far is division is mainly a PVE game that have PVP areas for when you're bored of re-running the same missions.
COD was actually built as a fully PVP game that they added a story to for when you want a change in pace.
Most game companies should just make a pve & a pvp game separately imo
Such a shame.. Heartland is F2P so be prepared to see cheaters sooner than you think.
I bet the same old TD1/TD2 cheats will work on there, I heard some were working during the private tests.
Heartland will be WAY worse with cheaters. Cheaters love battle royales
I was in love with a game wich I can't play anymore. Last time I went online I got killed by a teleporting guy with rpm on pistol. GG! We've all been hoping and waiting for far too long for something to change. These devs don't care about PvP. That's a fact imo. Good vid! Thanks for that! 🙋🏻♂️
Imagine they make new content in year 5 and don't crack down on cheaters.
@@Cryptonomous yeah 🤦♂️
Same here, I uninstalled the game one wek after the release ot the new content. There is no fun anymore, at least for me 😕 Nice vid Crypto 👍
@@Cryptonomous they claimed to ban around 10,000 cheaters per month at its height on R6 SIEGE. They can do it.
Also how as consumers are we supposed to be confident about the cheating state of Heartland, a F2P GAME, at release and in the long term when they can't ban a handfull of repeating cheaters on a almost 5 years old game. Because lets face it the odds that the Division 2 cheaters don't come to Heartland are the same as Yannick knowing what's the state of the division 2 pvp from a cheater stand point.
Instead of banning players asking pvp questions on there twitch lives, they should put that same energy into hiring people to review clips, reports and stats to alleviate the cheating problem in this game. Or if they don't want to hire people use the community and create a task force of pvp focused players that would be able to directly send reports to devs for a review.
They could create a system where actual genuine reports are sent in by the community via a forum where players can post evidence ALL PUBLIC, if there are false reports then it can be seen and corrected by other players, in this forum the playerbase that's involved would be able to gather plenty of intel to rat out the cheaters, get them banned making the game more enjoyable for everyone.
But of course since everything in this world is about being all inclusive and all that rubbish they won't allow witchunting when it is the BEST solution.
If dodgy things happen and u think it's cheats, post your PoV, then the other player has a chance to explain or post counter PoV, this system would also educate the other players who may chose to lurk and take from rather than I put their own.
In turn the false reports would drop DRAMATICALLY allowing the dev team or publisher to sift through more accurate cheat reports in a timely fashion resulting in cheaters like Panzer + Pazzo never getting beyond a couple hundred hours.
Will any of this happen? Likely not.
But these witch hunting rules HAVE GOT TO GO! All it does is protect cheaters!
@@Cryptonomous Sadly we both know that the focus is on pve because Heartland is supposed to be "THAT THING" that's gonna make division pvp players happy.
I think that any person from the community that support the idea that pvp should be a different entity appart from The Division main game is just a fool. What's makes the Division SPECIAL is that seamless transition between the pve and pvp aspect of the game thx to the dark zone.
The Dark Zone should be and his the endgame of the division. It's that thing that keep the progression going when you hit the max level by making you learn to fight another person because at the end of the day a video game AI is always made to be beaten.
That's what scares or upset most of the people about the DZ : the struggle of having to learn how to beat something that wasn't made to be beaten. A perfect example to showcase that are the hunters or pve rogues. No one complains about them but both are made to replicate the way a human would play and are here to kill for no reason other than increase the difficulty of ur mission. What's the difference from a dark zone rogue ? None other than one being programmed to be just difficult enough to be beaten.
All that to say that those devs have the wrong priorities partially because they listen the wrong people within the community.
Could u imagine if Hunters didn't announce their presence and instead insta beamed u in the back, thats what PvP is like, you see that hunter sitting cover? Well now he just pop shotted u before he peeked, thats PvP, you see how u get insta beamed to 1HP and left to live, well in PvP u dont live, players dont have mercy.
The game like you said is designed to hand hold you almost every step of the way, the moment you put these players in an ACTUAL tough situation they crumble down into little pieces or fold up in a foetal position and cry mamy.
The point is there are far too many casual players who think its their right to enter the DZ and have it as easy as the open world. But WHAT ABOUT MY DZ EXCLUSIVES wahhhhhhh, ok maybe they are EXCLUSIVES for a reason, the same way EB and Regulus which are both TOP TIER PvP weapons are RAID ONLY EXCLUSIVES.
The devs need to explain this to the playerbase because they still have not learnt after almost 7 years now what the DZ is and is meant to be. A brutal and tough end game.
Instead what they have done is pander to the trash players and the casuals via overpowered gear, weapons and talents & DZ turrets which have bred a player so useless it beggars belief as to how they even managed to complete WONY.
We have 3 Dark Zone, why not make 3 different rule sets to appeal to the different players?
1. Hardcore ODZ - Shoot on sight, aka friendly fire, toggle rogue an option not a requirement, no turrets (spawn protection instead, 3-5s immunity while walking) SHD Watch + Expertise. XP is increased and loot quality is Heroic, higher chance at a DZ Exclusive named items or Exotics.
2. Half Normalised DZ - Toggle to go rogue, no turrets, XP + Loot quality is challenging, SHD Watch - No expertise.
3. Fully Normalised DZ - Toggle to go rogue, turrets + spawn protection, XP + Loot quality is Hard level, NO SHD - NO Expertise.
No need then to make the game shit to help these players, help them via a bracket, a DZ option that suits them best.
They just need to do scaling Ty play if you guys capable of doing so many amazing head shots he needs fight people that do amazing head shots
Bravo....
Let's hope some actual dedicated PvP players get into the ETF to make the game better going forward, to think we are in year 4 and they have just turned a blind eye to basically anything PvP gives us a good impression that PvP will either be non existent in Div 3 or again just be an afterthought, when 90% of OCE Div 2 DZ (PC) players have going back to Div 1 DZ says alot about the game....
This has been an issue also, they always have picked the wrong people to listen to regarding PvP, they need to look at different types of players opinions, Casual DZ players, PvE players going into the DZ, Mid-Tier PvP players and the 1%. The problem is they will likely only listen for PvP feedback from PvE minded players, they need a variety of players opinions that cover the spectrum of all players that go DZ or play PvP.
@@Cryptonomous Div beta DZ 1 was the best darkzone experience the community has ever had. It's probably because everyone had little to know equipment or whatever but geezus it was the right mix of tension and antagonization. Those were the times where you don't really feel bad for being killed by a rogue because the only thing you could possibly say is "oh shit, he did a fast one on me".
They should study and replicate how was it that the Div 1 Beta DZ was loved by many.
@@FocusedCat i reckon these are rose tinted glasses talking, it was for me also such a novel experience, but like everything in life u get to know it eventually loses that novelty and becomes well, something else... But this is what updates are for, game changing updates, not just balance passes every 10 years, we need actual game changing updates every few months, look at fortnite, that game was kept alive and well thru such updates and garnered a huge presence, the division got some updates, some game changing aspects but too few and far between.
man I still play this game daily but I don't know how you put up with this bullshit, great video as always still love the content keep it coming man.
The main reason I’ll never play on PC. I’ll wait till consoles catch up lmao. PC is amazing don’t get me wrong… but y’all got knob heads like this who will ruin it for everyone all because they suck at the game themselves. Then dare to call it “having fun” NO your salty, sad, and clearly forever upset that you couldn’t progress to a skill level sufficient enough to not cheat.
Great video man
This video makes it look bad and yes it is bad but its not 24/7, I would still rather fight cheaters than play with an analogue stick.
As you know, I don't play the game... After they reverted the patch and brought back previously fixed bugs (which is just comedic by itself), I was just done with the game. It's a clunky mess, buggy af, dead and they aren't going to do anything about cheaters, their only hope is EAC and evidently even that isn't enough to stop it. Any division title released for me now is not even on the agenda and that's a sad reality because division 1 was my favourite game for a while. Anyways, good vid man and shame you have to put up with the shit. GGs
In my eyes they (devs) are just a bunch of f**** liars.
Considering Divisions track record of rampant cheating since Div 1 I'm just concerned what Heartland is gonna be like if they don't heavily prioritize AC cuz A: it's F2P, and B: it (reportedly) has crossplay
Game could be a gem but it ain't gonna mean anything if cheaters infest it..
Well, the anti cheat in div 2 has prevented the most absurd cheats from being a thing, we just have speedhack, shoot through objects up to around 200m away, aimbot, RPM, and a few others, but TD1 has some crazy shit.
Have my eternal respect for players as skillful and honest like you.
I stopped playing this game months ago, because the cheaters ruined it for me. I really injoyed the gaming and playing online with my friends. Can't even keep a positive attitude when playing it. That's because I played on council and PC for nearly 5k hours combined. Bugs and cheaters just made it not enjoyable.
It's why I just STOPPED going into the dz
Massive was so proactive applying a ban and rollback to all who were using the turret damage glitch mostly for PVE 2 yeats ago and even here they messed up banning the wrong players. The report feature is like a placebo pill persuading the community they care about the game. How can you guys still support this game??
I stopped playing Div 2 after TU 15. I officially quit. Is the game getting any better and is it worth returning too? From your last vid post I would say prob not it's been 4 months right? Either way it was a good run and I thank you Crypto for making div 2 content. You were the one who taught me mostly what I know now to succeed in this dogshit game.
Just a reminder you can literally close the anticheat on launch and play the game without anticheat running....But yeah, sure Yannick i'll wait two more years for server stability. Good Video as always
I spoke to some cheaters, they say u cannot launch the cheat after u launch the game, if EAC is closed u cant launch the game, so as much as i thuoght that meant something maybe it doesnt mean anything, unless of course there cheats u can run post launch.
THIS is my biggest concern for the upcoming Division Heartland. If they don't have a good... NO! It had better be a Godly Anti-Cheat system, or the cheaters will kill the game faster than anything. I NEVER go into the Dark Zone any longer, the last time I did I was shooting a guy running at me, almost had him dead, he took cover in front of me then teleported behind me and 1 shot me. I left and never went back.
I'm sooo glad you guy's at massive have posted this it make me want to return in the DARK ZONE and conflict. Please send more undercover gamers to catch more cheaters . It's a big step forward on putting the booth to the neck of cheaters. Crush the cheating communities, stop them in there place make examples of them for when they think of cheating. Make the DARK ZONE great again. 👍😁👍
All players that are being banned should be published with the reason why they were banned and the cheat used. If Massive is serious about their game they will act immediately they become aware and update the player base accordingly. More people including myself will then return to the DZ apart from the 1 or 2 hours per week to do my daily projects.
I wonder why a lot of the gaming and bigger gaming channels, don't come together and call for people to stay off these games and literally stop playing, until the devs do something serious about the problem and cheating and these cheaters must be getting some kind of inside help, to come up with the hacks to keep doing what they do and are the devs who make the games, not able to come up with a permanent way to ban anyone that cheats or detect anyone that has the ability to cheat, plus ban people who invite cheaters into a games permanently and see if that helps the problem, these people are destroying a lot of people's enjoyment and time we've put into these games, money and bad press talks. If people don't play and the devs and companies get an ish tone of bad press for what they are allowing, things will have to change
It's hard to do, too many of these UA-camrs are only out there for themselves, just look at some of the guys around the 40-50k sub range, their content is atrocious but everyone watches them, they are sellouts who have played the system well but suck as actual content creators, you're not gonna get a plea from them to boycot the game, they make too much money from it.
@@Cryptonomous Very true and probably why thigs don't change and our gaming experience, will continue to be bad in so many games
Out of all the console bot bullshit we have to deal with daily, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with this type of shit. I feel so bad for you and all the dedicated good players having shit absolutely ruined for them just because of shitcan robots that totally ruin the game, Oh but they're being banned right?
On PS5 I encounter alot of shooting through walls, people who have no recoil and lag switch
In The Division 1, a new wave of bans had to wait from the end of last year, 10 months. And that's not going to save this game. Soon the same will happen with TD2
Tried to come back but this game feels soaked with cheaters now.
I used to report cheats and modders but finally gave up. If companies like Ubisoft or EA or whoever truly wanted to get rid of cheats they wouldn't ban the individual; they would simply ban the device. If a cheat has to spend 500 dollars or so to get back on it would disappear. Problem is they don't want to do that for fear they would lose to much of their customer base. I finally gave up and no longer play any pvp. There are still cheats on pve but they don't attract the same attention. Good luck
Gamers like that are why i don't play DZ anymore. It's not worth the headache.
I remember getting division 1 and being disappointed that it was not like they said in the trailer but they game was alright until the cheaters came in, the DZ was full of cheaters and after a while I cheated just so I could use esp to avoid people and got banned. It didnt matter that I was using it to try and avoid people who cheated to kill people and the fact that almost everyone was cheating and it forced me to cheat so I can understand why some people cheat.
The fact is the people who make cheats are smarter than the people making the game and cheaters rune the game and in this game I stopped playing it because I do not want to cheat again and going in pvp is just frustrating.
I do not know how hard it is to have GM's in a game that can see a report and investingate right away but I would have thought having a gm that can see a report and teleport to that reported player and investigate right away who solve the problem.
Right, I keep saying what is £30000/yr in the budget of a AAA game, just hire some guy who's sole job is to investigate reports and ban cheaters, keep the game clean.
Do you have any idea how much of that £30000 can be made up by legit players returning and buying skins etc
Massive really missed the ball on the MTXs, they could have kept the game clean and made more money.
Dunno how to start this off actually 😅, I guess they are actually more interested in banning people who so called exploited a glitch in game with a shield and turret as well ban those who even didn't do this glitch than look at the exploits in PvP.. These Devs don't even care about this game anymore, they even delay more things within this game. This game has so much potential that it's going backwards and not forwards in my eyes they could do so much yet I feel it's too late please don't get me wrong I enjoy this game yet I feel the Devs don't really know or in fact care what this community has to say about it and to me that is sad.
The thing is we have a completely different dev team, some OGs sure but the vast majority are replacements, they have to undo the spaghetti code left by the people prior and these guys have managed to launch a major TU15 patch bringing back old glitches and exploits. Its not a good look thus far. They need to up their game.
Thats love sausage he reckons he’s not with cheaters anymore and judging by his immense accuracy the other day I’d say he was cheating
Love sausage don't cheat was only prostate puncher and he doesn't play anymore
There was only 1 time I thought they did something and it turned out to be a freak death which was later explained. A trap hit him and he ran into me, so basically a non rogue player killed me -a non rogue player via trap glitch.
Sausage even play with Panzer , so yeah , he always play with cheaters .
that's why I left division and came back to tf2 cause of people who cry and get cheaters in a lobby
I don't blame you.
This is exactly why I only do PVE... Fair play is impossible when you have a shit ton of circle jerk rejects cheating... The DZ should be solo play unless you manually choose PVP..
I'm so glad console div is pure aside from xim /cronus ...never had to deal with this
PC master race
Not coming back till PVP is looked into and action is taken against cheating players. I LOVED THIS GAME MORE THAN ANY GAME ON PLAYSTATION AND STILL DO. BUT CHEATING HAS RAPED THIS GAME WITHOUT PENALTIES..
There is no way u have that level of cheating to warrant this type of comment, sorry man.
thats why i dont have an intention to go to pc, console its almost impossible to cheat
and thats why i dont like the ideia of crossplay
I don't think they have the team do to sth, based on the amount of screwups from a dev point of view, i think actively managing cheaters is the last things on their mind. Add another PvE feature to play, there we fix it (fix to be read as f***) :))
By numbers, the game with highest amount of cheaters is Fortnite ... guess which is the anticheat there 😂. Unfortunately there is a lot of people loving The Division as game (including TD1 and TD2) who we have decided do not play it anymore due to the uncontrolled status of the cheating in PVP. I love PVP in this game and I won't play anymore, as commented Grumpy_DNA below.
I am average, but even not being a great player, the PVP sessions in this game when we found a great server with no cheaters and balanced teams were incredible. Even when you played vs the best legit teams in the game in 8 vs 4, it was really funny as well. IMHO the cheaters and the excesive power of the skills builds (very often a full team was destroyed by 1 guy launching shtt at a big distance) have broken the PVP in DZ.
What is sure is that Yannick is denying the evidence: there are cheaters in the game from the beginning not banned yet.
glad to see you haven't left. ggs bro
Man these cheaters are on a high once they find you in a lobby. Straight bums dude
good video bro,but unfortunately ubisoft won't do anything about it and that will never change (let's see if reverse psychology works)
We will see
Hey I was wondering what is more dps headshot build or crit build?
Crit
Game's working as intended.
The infamous term always used to explain where something went wrong.
Hence why I rarely pvp on division 2
I wasn’t recording, but ones some guy killed me from Nemesis by shooting like from “Rock n Roll” shotgun. Europe server
yeah that sounds like a really really good ammo type
This is why I don’t play PVP in this game
There's no point in playing the game if it doesnt offer PvP
Good Video! its a kinda of alert, lets see...
Division 2 video of the year!🏆....
Is this possible on console? I've come across plenty of sketchy crap in the dz after having played since day 1 and it has never gotten any better.
Mmmm does this mean cryptonomous is uploading div 2 videos again 🙂
thx for this nice video.. it made me Smile :-)
I don't play PVP anymore and I'm on a console. What pissed me off was gangs of low IQ teenagers waiting at extraction points. It became a pointless exercise farming for gear you can now get outside DZ. But camping outside the entry points and you've got no gear - why?
people play the game for pvp, if u enter the dark zone you accept a fight at any point, extractions exist purely for players to fight over the loot, after players have their loot they have no desire to kill for loot but for blood, its literally the reason a lot of players even bought the game to do.
I love this game, but too many times I have gone into the DZ or other PVP, and been decimated. It is rife!. That's why I have just stuck with PVE.
Are you sure that's the reason?
@@Cryptonomous I would say a large % of the time it is. As a PC player I know it would be higher due to the nature of the platform. But I have tried may build and playstyle, yet always seem to come across a player who roll through the 4 of us!
I don't know what the problem is to get rid of dishonest people in this game.... After all, the game is played by 100 people maximum. some remaining unpunished attract others to also play dishonestly.
this is true
Yannick has no respect for his game, no respect for his company but most of all no respect for players. He doesnt know what he is doing and certainly he does not care at all. How do you trust a man like this and spend your valuable time for his game? Im done long time ago. Heartland will not be better. I almost feel so sad for them.
Thank you 🙏 for help Cheater 🤮🗑👎🤮
What?
Ps5 and ps4 dz no fun Cheater Crunos Player I have Videos
Division 1 and 2 Cheater Game 👎🗑🤮🗑👎🤮
@@dennisschirrmeister1030 take your meds please
I've send videos with evidence how the cheaters are oprating and still I see them playing in the game, some just changed their name and are just doing the same as before. The cheaters even admit what they are doing and are laughing at ubisoft because they know they won't get banned. Today I made another video and also here you can see in his comment what he thinks about ubisoft. Some of them are even proud of what they do.... So thank you ubisoft for not doing what you need to do.
bro can you make a video on your settings? your game looks nuts
yeah i have a custom config
Awesome video :) GGs
The other problem is people close anti cheat to stop the pc crashing
it is my understanding that if you close the anti cheat the game won't load up
It wont, but u can launch the game _then_ close the Anti-Cheat, afaik u cant launch some cheats after the game has booted, but who knows, with some u might be able to, this is why FairFight needs to be relied upon + the report system actually being used.
I think they just got the best gaming chairs tbh
Massive has become nothing, but a massive joke when it comes to this franchise.
yeah standard daily stuff ... not a single day without SIZ or KGB .... 🥴🥴
I don't see them quite that often but sometimes it's days in a row, server after server, some days u see no high level cheaters, low level ones u can still farm.
@@Cryptonomous mostly night times. Like a rats 🤣🤣
Turns out Lyrical Fighter had been cheating all along.
think i have been on the game a handfull of times in the last 2 months really have lost the love for this game for this reason the amount of people who was inviting people like pazzo or even rotaru (i know he does not heavy cheats) i the bad thing about it is so many people dont understand the game and its problems that if they get killed they insta call cheats on you me and all the other decent players so invite the fuckers who actually cheat you totally hit the nail on the head
I can't stand them they do my head in, hope it gets stopped
Well said
The problam is that a lot of "good" players get exposed , i think the pc community 50% play with cheat or aim assist , the biggest problem is that the anticheat is verybad , not updated etc . A lot of game braking bugs , and a top of the 2k+ hours playtime cheaters its fucked so many ways ... Heartland is dead before is even launched , its gonna be the cheaters playroom.
such as el patron exp0sed by YouDieByHunter
Yeah sometimes someone gets exposed, i dont think the numbre is as high as 50% but there is a sizable portion.
This is why I love console
mestre mike james 💪
@@assaullt 😎😎
We need u on PC man, at least on a future Division game, we need 3 Mikes vs the server
@@Cryptonomous might consider it for Div 3 we shall see
@@UkZzMIKEJAMES please do, you are most welcome!
They don’t care about cheaters in PvP.
we consoles also exist, some use swit lag others use programs with udp unicorn, xlag etc... and nothing makes a shame
As a temporary solution, we decided to significantly reduce Shrapnel Trap efficiency in PvP in order to dissuade players from using it.
Como solução temporária, decidimos reduzir significativamente a eficiência da Armadilha de Estilhaços no PvP para dissuadir os jogadores de usá-la.
PLANEJADO PARA A TU16.1🎉🎉🎉🎉
THIS GAME IS DEATHHHH!!!!!
It's disappointing that the pvp side is so populated but such low life's. And with the mountain of evidence across the years showcasing these scumbags and nothing is done is concerning that it does seem to matter.
Omg this is way too OP, these mother hunpers who's cheating are delusional 🙄. And the bums who invites them.
Man everything outta this game just reeks of shit ever since I reinstalled it
Fucking unresolved performance and server errors, crashing upwards of 10 times in a row, render engine failures, rampant undetectable cheaters (thank christ I don't PvP in this game)
Fucking shit being poorly balanced, be it extremely powerful or "when was the last time you've seen this thing, oh wait, it was shit when it was released and hasn't gotten changed whatsoever"
I really want to uninstall this game and personally fucking scare these devs into doing something useful because it's all I fucking see nowadays in any game I take interest into
Destiny 2, Hunt showdown, Division 2, fucking warframe to a degree (but honestly I've been pretty okay with some of the stuff except for the grind for some shit)
Honestly those clips look so much like the Destiny 2 Trials of Osiris AC-130 cheaters
Pretty much every single one of them I've gotten so pissed off with that I wanna tear my fucking eyes out, fuck it
I hope to god that many devs nowadays are fucking used as lessons as what not to fucking do with their work, like fuck dude
Please, please, please be a part of the ETF for PvP. Please.
I applied, but they wont accept me most likely, they like to invite clueless PvE players to talk about PvP, IMO people should ONLY be able to sign up for either PvP or PvE, this way u only invite purists who will actually know about their respective game mode, for example I have NO PLACE IN TALKING ABOUT PVE I DONT CARE ABOUT IT. By the same merit PvE players have NO PLACE TO TALK ABOUT PVP.
An opinion here and there can be gathered but not as candidates for the ETF.
Im just scared they will listen to players who whine about everything and not the ones who know this game down to its fundamental basics.
7:44 surprised he talking this much. Once he's alone then it's open season. Guys like this tend to make me laugh. I wonder what's stopping the hacker from turning on him and whooping him? Probably money. This almost make me glad to be in console.
He is a cheater, but his other cheater friend was carrying him with better cheats.
@@Cryptonomous shame how you have to cheat to win. It's not winning, just losing with extra pity
I know as annoying how every cheaters are. Now imagine the cheaters that some to ruin the servers only take out the ones that called them over. Just a random thought.
What type of low life has to cheat at a video game?? This is sick and what is wrong with the world today. Something for Nothing. Pay to Cheat.
Ngl I’m glad I left and I don’t think I’ll play again if I’m being honest.
hope they listen
👀
ppl who invite Chaters hackers to help them should also get perma ban. They know those ppl cheat and they support that and should be banned also.
Yeah, some people just don't care
Hi, a question to everyone and Crypto. Can someone explain to me if it is possible for people to cheat like this on the XBOX platform? I know we have the Cronus/XIM/Titan2 players with MnK - but can this stuff happen on XBOX like in the video? My understanding is it is impossible to inject code into the game on console and you cannot manipulate DLLs. I would just like a possible explanation if some type of cheats (Iwantcheats) can be done on consoles. I hear a lot of players calling others out for aimbot/aim trace etc...
Your responses would be greatly appreciated.
You can not do anything of the sort on a console. Anyone claiming otherwise is full of shit, I ask you to challenge them to prove it, they will fail miserably.
Game looks fine if you ask me 😅
they can make apparel even so why cant they fix some issues
Different team I guess
That would be great if they can banned cheaters or temp banned players using exploits but unfortunately I don't see that happening. I got banned when the dmg exploit with the torrent was happening and you wanna know something "I DIDN'T EVEN KNEW ABOUT IT" 🤣 I was a new player back then and was surprised when I got banned for absolutely no reason. That shows that they have absolutely no clue who's cheating or who's not. It's sad 😔 such a great franchise with poor management.
Temp banning for exploits would just be a cop out and make devs not actually bother in fixing those exploits.
Unless of course you talk about the serious ones like going invisible, teleporting etc, those are gamebreakinf exploits that do deserve temp banning.
Wtf...these types of dudes are the same ones who have gotten their ass beat in real life lol So they come to a game and try to be good lol
They're just people who think everyone else is cheating so they buy cheats to compete.
@@Cryptonomous the fact someone actually pays for cheats is dumb lol
This is why .. the game .. need a new DlC
CCCP from Russian - USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics)
👏👏👏👏👏👏
CCCP_LAKI, CCCP_BULDOZER, CCCP_Pazzo . thats the named guys i meet yesterday all shoot through walls. And what i found here CCCP_Pazzo still not banned and this video is from 13.08
I've finally conceded and put the game down on ps5 can't enjoy it it's a shame cause I love the game
What has the good game came too. If your doing good and not dying people think ur cheating. So then they have to resort to actually cheating and I send to ubisoft but the devs don't care ....
I really wonder do creators even play there owngame like for real
I hope they bring in more drops of exotics.
They really need to
Massive blows
I’ll pass going to play Gears 1-3 campaign now
Love 💕 love 💕 love 💕 love 💕
I did fight Ace today he wasn’t cheating he maybe only cheated against you
Not all cheaters cheat 247
@@Cryptonomous yeah but he should have against me 🤣🤣
Just a thought that this cbeating is allowed by The Division, you know still business.
apparently so
invite only DZ.
All is still fair game but you get to play with people you know are not cheating. Anyone cheats dont invite them next time.
Yeah we really need private servers
I don't understand that they say they banned the cheaters, and here they are, so whats up?
And l understand that the cheaters don't have any common sense or otherwise, its how they were raised, so they watched their parents and other adults, and learns to be slimmy...