Seriously speaking, the problem with the new strides decks has its pros and cons. Its pro is that the first stride does not have a very high cost but they limit it a lot and its con is that its first stride is not very relevant, the other decks such as chronojet, messias, shira and luard their first turn of stride are very good .
I mean tbh I don't think that is too much of a problem bc the deck generates a bunch of resources overall. But I do see your point about how it lacks attk power on 1st stride.
@@chezboi8516 Maybe in the future if Bunshi plans to live the D format they can release a third stride that may be more flexible , For example, a stride that when it declares an attack pays x cost in case of ''granblue'' you call a card unit with hollow from your drop
I rose player should have realised that 2 rosariums where damaged and 2 on board and started swinging at them to force revives and keep them selves in heal range since lianorn was able to heal 3 times
Honestly I'm OK with these decks being around chonojet and messiah lvl. Luard and shirinui proves just how insanely overpowered and out of hand these decks can get
The main problem with nightrose is that it only made 3 attacks, while all other stride decks made 4 attacks at least So, even if the thinning deck is fast and your hand is big, you still only made 3 attack while your opp only goes g3 means either they plus much or rush you. Harri at least made 4 attack, and Harri stride can put 2 opp rg into soul
@@dylangoh1351 If only they made nightstorm eff just like the manticore, make it to be like 4 attack on 1st stride and can be used once only per turn with same name unit.....
@@sephiram1475misplay by the guy though. At full power in second stride, it's 5 attacks with the 3rd-5th being 50k+ minimum. Edith: but still, yeah 1st stride turn is underwhelming. Playable but still..
Actually I couldn't see what they discarded for the stride here so I went to the stream and they did discard g3 rose to stride so I'm now also unsure why they went into the Obadiah again
Sometimes you need more power and opponent's hand is still big. So striding obadiah is an optimal way to gain more power to kill them next turn. It also allow them to waste a pg before their Nightrose g4 turn.
Problem with nightrose (and harri) is your first stride is only 3 attacks, meaning you have essentially no pressure on the first grade 3 turn. So if you go first, youre essentially 2 turns behind on getting multi
No it’s not true call the grade 3 mentclaws dragon from Harri skill cb1 soulcharg 1 call from soul call here grade 3 and call dark side princess from lunatic dragon flip 1 card from G zone top 5 put 1 card into soul call from soul Call dark side and after you attack first with mentiaclaws first then call dark side princess
@Stujieee96 not nearly as much though, comparing the 4 attack pressure to 6 attack. Plus even the 4 attack doesn't have a lot of power to it, so it still falls short
@@ahmes004 standard is like RNG fest where drive check carries you really hard. And I mean reeeeeealy hard, because you have like 0 shield in format. You can be a total vegtable player and drive check your opponent into oblivion while he got 0 defensives. Meanwhile in premium you got heal guards and G guards to guard big numbers and you have to plan ahead your turn. Damage deny is also meaningful in prem.
Seriously speaking, the problem with the new strides decks has its pros and cons. Its pro is that the first stride does not have a very high cost but they limit it a lot and its con is that its first stride is not very relevant, the other decks such as chronojet, messias, shira and luard their first turn of stride are very good .
I mean tbh I don't think that is too much of a problem bc the deck generates a bunch of resources overall. But I do see your point about how it lacks attk power on 1st stride.
@@chezboi8516
Maybe in the future if Bunshi plans to live the D format they can release a third stride that may be more flexible , For example, a stride that when it declares an attack pays x cost in case of ''granblue'' you call a card unit with hollow from your drop
Nothing like 5-6 defensive triggers
I rose player should have realised that 2 rosariums where damaged and 2 on board and started swinging at them to force revives and keep them selves in heal range since lianorn was able to heal 3 times
On 8:48, the last attack from rosarium, does it copy the power from the dragon behind it?
Yes
Rosarium Gains the power of a back row unit when attacking
Does anyone know what outer sleeve Nightrose uses for the main deck? Thanks!
Lianorn was also sacking quite a fair bit
lianorn really sacked too many triggers for opp to push and guard
Honestly I'm OK with these decks being around chonojet and messiah lvl. Luard and shirinui proves just how insanely overpowered and out of hand these decks can get
The main problem with nightrose is that it only made 3 attacks, while all other stride decks made 4 attacks at least
So, even if the thinning deck is fast and your hand is big, you still only made 3 attack while your opp only goes g3 means either they plus much or rush you. Harri at least made 4 attack, and Harri stride can put 2 opp rg into soul
I agree with u, ur speaking so many facts. I do agree that 4>3. That’s why I personally think mag elder is the best deck in format right now
@@dylangoh1351 If only they made nightstorm eff just like the manticore, make it to be like 4 attack on 1st stride and can be used once only per turn with same name unit.....
@@sephiram1475misplay by the guy though. At full power in second stride, it's 5 attacks with the 3rd-5th being 50k+ minimum.
Edith: but still, yeah 1st stride turn is underwhelming. Playable but still..
has harri seen top 8?
1st place in Thailand's WGP last saturday
I will play my queen regardless of her power level
The nightrose combos goes brrr
Kinda confused, why did they go obadiah again on 2nd stride? Why not just go for rose multi attack?
maybe They couldn't?
It's possible they didn't have a copy of g3 rose in hand. Since g4 rose needs you to discard the g3 rose, they couldn't stride into it
Actually I couldn't see what they discarded for the stride here so I went to the stream and they did discard g3 rose to stride so I'm now also unsure why they went into the Obadiah again
He literally discarded night rose to stride Obadiah 😅😅😅 @@TheMrharis20
Sometimes you need more power and opponent's hand is still big. So striding obadiah is an optimal way to gain more power to kill them next turn. It also allow them to waste a pg before their Nightrose g4 turn.
Problem with nightrose (and harri) is your first stride is only 3 attacks, meaning you have essentially no pressure on the first grade 3 turn. So if you go first, youre essentially 2 turns behind on getting multi
Harri on first stride is four attacks. Second stride six.
No it’s not true call the grade 3 mentclaws dragon from Harri skill cb1 soulcharg 1 call from soul call here grade 3 and call dark side princess from lunatic dragon flip 1 card from G zone top 5 put 1 card into soul call from soul Call dark side and after you attack first with mentiaclaws first then call dark side princess
Harri has multiattack on first stride
@Stujieee96 not nearly as much though, comparing the 4 attack pressure to 6 attack. Plus even the 4 attack doesn't have a lot of power to it, so it still falls short
Even Luard has 4 attacks on first dragdriver and potentially 6 attacks on second dragdriver turn.
Even with draw power it's pretty slow.
nighrose is just too expensive for a 3 battle deck
Nightrose is the worse stride deck in standard. #ChangeMyMind
second?
nightrose deck is strong, problem is player don't know how to build nightrose deck
And how would u do it differently from this top 4 competitor?
@@ahmes004Well that’s easy, I mean maybe this dude is top 2, you never know.
Wgp Singapore it’s like a 400 pax event no?
@@ahmes004 standard is like RNG fest where drive check carries you really hard. And I mean reeeeeealy hard, because you have like 0 shield in format. You can be a total vegtable player and drive check your opponent into oblivion while he got 0 defensives. Meanwhile in premium you got heal guards and G guards to guard big numbers and you have to plan ahead your turn. Damage deny is also meaningful in prem.
This nightrose player made questionable decisions tbh
First?😊