Can you please make a video where you distillate a huge amount of low wines using a 3-inch LM still, showing everything in a step-by-step procedure? I really need to watch a video where temperatures are shown in each step and everything is explained. I prefer LM because I really like vodka and neutral spirits.
Hello Andrey, again thanks for sharing another great video. Amazing results with 3.5 x 3.5 SPP. My question for today is what is your packed column hight, and do you notice a big difference using the centering rings with SPP. I ask because i was thinking that the SPP is in contact with the walls and would pull the liquid back into the packing. This is what is so great about the information in the videos all of you guys share with us they are so valuable we can learn so much from each other in a short period of time.
Hello Rick! Here Stillman X 3 inch has 1 meter (3.28 feet) of packing height. Yes, there is a bit difference sometimes change in ABV can about 0.2-0.5%. So alcohol is going to be 95.8-96.2 and also you can see difference by looking at chromatography, but it's suitable result for commercial spirit. So these rings help, if the column diameter is 4 in or even more than rings like a must have units.
Sure, some of them can be easily blended (depending on the material), but we use Russian’s elements for 220-230 volts and all of them impossible to bend.
I’m assuming you have packing in the bottom of both of the extensions before adding spp. Can you connect second column before adding spp and eliminate packing in upper column? Would it be beneficial to just have liquid concentrator in bottom of both columns instead of any packing? Thank you. Great job.
Yes, you are right. You can take away one roll of mesh in the middle and feed the column with more SPP. So it will provide you a bit better spirits quality.
found it really interesting how will it work with PID connected ,also how far into the run did it stay at 96%ABV or did it run to the end at that? thanks
Oh, I am not sure about PID with column like this, it's better to have PWM. If there is an ability to set PID with stable power all process, than it's a good way to use it. Yes, all run it stay with 96.4. It can fall down, if temperature in the column will rise, so that's why we look after that.
If your intention is to manage the still wit a pid regulating POWER , it is for sure the wrong way. The best to do is a pid that controls a solenoid valve,with stabilising delay time,that way you have a awesome equipment,3" still I love it.
Hey Dr, 2.5-3 l/hr seems on the slower side. I’ve seen 3 inch columns get closer to 4l/hr or just under that still pulling azeo. Any reason for that speed difference?
Hi Andrey, what is the role of the valve ( with a blue handle) between the main column and the condenser; you didn't play with it during the whole video? Secondly, I am a bit confused with the cooling pipes connected to the condenser. The alcohol is already flowing down from the reflux column (top) in liquid state why do you need to connect cooling water? This is the first time I am seeing such an arrangement. I am also a home distiller therefore I wonder whether I am missing something or not. By the way, having seen a Russian company which is operational worldwide made me very happy. Good videos, good equipment; well done congrats.
Yes, I didn't work with this ball valve - this one is for vapour management in case if it's fits needs of moonshiner. I am going to make another video about this as well. You can have a look how I worked with that in 2 inch module ua-cam.com/video/l59FEafuRFs/v-deo.html. Well we always cool down the alcohol no matter what type of still we have because while spirits are hot, they vaporise, so we can loose them. Than by the contact of hot spirits with oxygen we get alcohol oxidation, so aldehyde increase by that process that's why it's important to cool down at least at 30º C or 20ºC which is better. Another thing is that we can easily understand what's ABV or proof of the product, because alcometers show fine data only when it's 20ºC or 68ºF. Thank you so much for the questions and I'm happy for your feedback!
Hi, for the calculation I need to have height of the packing part of the column. 3.5 mm is better if you have accurate heating like PWM. 5x5 can handle much more power, but surface area is smaller. So, if you have 3 kW accurate power supply - 3.5 mm SPP Unstable power or discrete power - 5 mm SPP and use VM, so in case of falling power, your reflux ratio and outtake change or stay with LM, but amount of liquid outtake has to be adjusted to lower amount.
@@DoctorGradusInternational I can pack between 36 - 60" of the column. CCVM with a 5500 watt ulwd element. 3Kw in reflux is about right. At 3KW is 36" appropriate for azeotrope?
@@DoctorGradusInternational Thanks again. Now all you need is to figure out that UPS does better rates than DHL. Those guys are crazy. Every time I see a DHL quote it makes me laugh. Not sure how they are still in business. 36" - 1M to azeotrope is very nice I won't need to get on a ladder to change the flow or check the temperature.
@Robert Fontaine We are supported by DHL exporter program. So, we did compare shipping rates and DHL made much better. Anyway if we would ship like a usual customers of DHL, cost would be crazy, so you are absolutely right. Sometimes I use Russian DHL to ship parts of laser cutting CNC to fix it, and shipping to Moscow is higher than I would ship it to US.
@@bjscooking1797 It's available for android as well. Try to write AlcoCalc in search if this link won't work play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.titan.spirtdroid
The product production speed on this is awesome
Oh, absolutely!
@@DoctorGradusInternational as always you have super nice stills, love the matt finish and the fact that it is so versatile.
Thanks
Love the reaction @ 8:15
Can't wait to put this bad boy thru its paces!
Very impressive. Takes a little getting used to after running a conventional pot still. I like it! Great Job!
Thank you!
Impressive engineering. Great job.
Thanks!
This is a fantastic still,the center rings are a good idea to avoid wall flood effect.output is great at that high abv. Love to see more.
I would love to see you do a video of a 30 to 50 gallon batch with this
still , or any of your products , great full detail videos ,Thanks
Very nice and fast column , without isolation cuts would not be reliable what is the length of column
Can you please make a video where you distillate a huge amount of low wines using a 3-inch LM still, showing everything in a step-by-step procedure? I really need to watch a video where temperatures are shown in each step and everything is explained. I prefer LM because I really like vodka and neutral spirits.
Hello Andrey, again thanks for sharing another great video. Amazing results with 3.5 x 3.5 SPP. My question for today is what is your packed column hight, and do you notice a big difference using the centering rings with SPP. I ask because i was thinking that the SPP is in contact with the walls and would pull the liquid back into the packing. This is what is so great about the information in the videos all of you guys share with us they are so valuable we can learn so much from each other in a short period of time.
Hello Rick! Here Stillman X 3 inch has 1 meter (3.28 feet) of packing height. Yes, there is a bit difference sometimes change in ABV can about 0.2-0.5%. So alcohol is going to be 95.8-96.2 and also you can see difference by looking at chromatography, but it's suitable result for commercial spirit. So these rings help, if the column diameter is 4 in or even more than rings like a must have units.
@@DoctorGradusInternational thanks for the explanation 👍✌
Hey there. You noted that the diameter would not allow a larger element. It is ok to bend elements slightly if you need.
Sure, some of them can be easily blended (depending on the material), but we use Russian’s elements for 220-230 volts and all of them impossible to bend.
I’m assuming you have packing in the bottom of both of the extensions before adding spp. Can you connect second column before adding spp and eliminate packing in upper column? Would it be beneficial to just have liquid concentrator in bottom of both columns instead of any packing?
Thank you. Great job.
Yes, you are right. You can take away one roll of mesh in the middle and feed the column with more SPP. So it will provide you a bit better spirits quality.
found it really interesting how will it work with PID connected ,also how far into the run did it stay at 96%ABV or did it run to the end at that? thanks
Oh, I am not sure about PID with column like this, it's better to have PWM. If there is an ability to set PID with stable power all process, than it's a good way to use it.
Yes, all run it stay with 96.4. It can fall down, if temperature in the column will rise, so that's why we look after that.
If your intention is to manage the still wit a pid regulating POWER , it is for sure the wrong way.
The best to do is a pid that controls a solenoid valve,with stabilising delay time,that way you have a awesome equipment,3" still I love it.
@@DoctorGradusInternational I agree. Had same results.
Hey Dr, 2.5-3 l/hr seems on the slower side. I’ve seen 3 inch columns get closer to 4l/hr or just under that still pulling azeo. Any reason for that speed difference?
Hi Andrey, what is the role of the valve ( with a blue handle) between the main column and the condenser; you didn't play with it during the whole video? Secondly, I am a bit confused with the cooling pipes connected to the condenser. The alcohol is already flowing down from the reflux column (top) in liquid state why do you need to connect cooling water? This is the first time I am seeing such an arrangement. I am also a home distiller therefore I wonder whether I am missing something or not. By the way, having seen a Russian company which is operational worldwide made me very happy. Good videos, good equipment; well done congrats.
Yes, I didn't work with this ball valve - this one is for vapour management in case if it's fits needs of moonshiner. I am going to make another video about this as well. You can have a look how I worked with that in 2 inch module ua-cam.com/video/l59FEafuRFs/v-deo.html.
Well we always cool down the alcohol no matter what type of still we have because while spirits are hot, they vaporise, so we can loose them. Than by the contact of hot spirits with oxygen we get alcohol oxidation, so aldehyde increase by that process that's why it's important to cool down at least at 30º C or 20ºC which is better. Another thing is that we can easily understand what's ABV or proof of the product, because alcometers show fine data only when it's 20ºC or 68ºF.
Thank you so much for the questions and I'm happy for your feedback!
How much SPP packing and what size would you recommend for a 3 inch column when making a neutral spirit?
Hi, for the calculation I need to have height of the packing part of the column. 3.5 mm is better if you have accurate heating like PWM. 5x5 can handle much more power, but surface area is smaller.
So, if you have 3 kW accurate power supply - 3.5 mm SPP
Unstable power or discrete power - 5 mm SPP and use VM, so in case of falling power, your reflux ratio and outtake change or stay with LM, but amount of liquid outtake has to be adjusted to lower amount.
@@DoctorGradusInternational I can pack between 36 - 60" of the column. CCVM with a 5500 watt ulwd element. 3Kw in reflux is about right. At 3KW is 36" appropriate for azeotrope?
Yes, 36 inches is enough to receive almost same result.
@@DoctorGradusInternational Thanks again. Now all you need is to figure out that UPS does better rates than DHL. Those guys are crazy. Every time I see a DHL quote it makes me laugh. Not sure how they are still in business. 36" - 1M to azeotrope is very nice I won't need to get on a ladder to change the flow or check the temperature.
@Robert Fontaine We are supported by DHL exporter program. So, we did compare shipping rates and DHL made much better. Anyway if we would ship like a usual customers of DHL, cost would be crazy, so you are absolutely right. Sometimes I use Russian DHL to ship parts of laser cutting CNC to fix it, and shipping to Moscow is higher than I would ship it to US.
Are the liquid concentrators sold separately?
Hello!
Sorry for taking so long to answer.
Yes, we sell them separately by having the request.
Only 3 inch size
Andrey Hi...what phone app are you using??
Hello! I am using this one apps.apple.com/ru/app/alcohol-calculator/id1092478209?l=en if you wouldn't like it I have another one :)
@@DoctorGradusInternational Cheers, my phone is android, so it won't work.. 😓...BJ
@@bjscooking1797 It's available for android as well. Try to write AlcoCalc in search if this link won't work play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.titan.spirtdroid
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