Behind Kenya's proposal to send a thousand police to Haiti | DW News
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- Armed gangs in Haiti still control nearly 80% of the capital, Port au Prince. The violence has continued despite the appointment of a transitional government, following the resignation of the former Prime Minister Ariel Henry last month. Kenya is proposing to send hundreds of police to the country to help stop the violence but many are increasingly worried about the idea.
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#haiti #kenya #violence
As a Kenyan we have no business there.
As a Somali who lived in Kenya, help your people and we appreciate it
No you don’t
As a member of the United Nations they are obliged to help in war torn countries as they have done already in over 40 years
you dont speak for kenyans
Imagine America is right there and Kenya wants to send soldiers. I guess Haiti has nothing to steal anymore.
Do your research. Whenever USA intervenes in Haiti, it always fails. Haitians do not want USA in Haiti. Now, USA is offering Kenya 100 Million to send their officers to Haiti. Haitians do not want that either. We want stability in our country but we have to lead the mission.
Look at the that mess (nation) If left alone......
@@shadowsamurai4074I’m pretty sure the gangs will not negotiate with US. The US only aims to do what’s in the best interest of the US.
@@shadowsamurai4074 They were never left alone...that's why they are in this mess in the first place.
@@Mr.Universe So then what to leave it left alone or help? I only wonder how this situation will turn out if left alone.....
Kenya has no business in Haiti..
Just like the French an yanks did not have any either
Kenya has all business in haiti
As a Kenyan, I kinda agree however even my Canadian government seems to support Kenya with significant funding so theirs that.
They need to be there. Plus any country that can help bring Peace
Which peace that even America couldn't bring?
To the Kenyan 🇰🇪 Police going to Haiti 🇭🇹. R.I.P in advance.
😂😂😂
Wewe ndio utakufa mbele yao
Seems you have no idea what Kenya is.
@@Andrealaguidaturisticayou have no idea what Haitian people capable of
The gangs in Haiti tend not to have sights on their rifles... I think they'll be just fine.
Prayers for Haiti
They are destroying everything,who is going to replace them
Kenyans don’t speak French or Creole…. This military operation sounds SO GOOFY and will NOT be embraced by the people of Ayiti.
As a member of the United Nations they are obliged to help in war torn countries as they have done already in over 40 years
Dear People of Kenya. I have been to Haiti, Please do not send your sons there to die. Haitians need to learn how to solve their own problems.
We knocked Alshabaab which is dangerous.
Tell that heartless nonsense to the little Haitian kids dying and living constantly in fear.
And how is that supposed to be done when gangs are raiding every single neighborhoods in Haiti, right now all of you are telling no force to be sent to Haiti while kids are being killed young boys are carrying guns, young women are being r@ped, families are fleeing without knowing where else to go, if not a force we will be facing the unimaginable situation
@@DaGraphittiX Intervening will also result in collateral damage, the Haitian people need to learn how to manage their own country. I suggest that you go there and fight for the kids before you ask others to do so.
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 we've done ours elsewhere in erstwhile times. Something you may never understand but there are people who run to danger so others might have some peace of a sort. Hope you understand that one day.
Besides, the Kenyan force isn't the only force coming. They're just leading the way. Let's rather pray for the success of that intervention assistance force instead of sounding this bleakly pessimistic.
No nation should be run by lawless gangs and child soldiers.
Kenyans themselves are suffering from insecurities and government has lost control,, this is not possible
Stop lying. There's no insecurity in Kenya. The banditry issue can not be compared to what is going on in Haiti. Shame on you!
@@frankanyona2857 shame on you just because it aint affecting doesnt mean those affected are from mercury
Kenya 🇰🇪 is worse than Haiti. You don't know anything about Haiti . Haiti is the one that gives you freedom
@@frankanyona2857You white tho
Ngui inoo
Without the US dollars, there's no Kenya in Haiti
Kenya cannot manage Haitians violence..how can kenya solve those problems when thy can't handle banditry
or corrupt cops asking for lunch money in the streets? (just happened to me in kenya)
@@marcrooseler lunch is making you cry.
Haiti cannot help itself either.
The idea of Kenyan police is because they don't want US or Canada security forces in the ground, most of them are white.
Let's use reason on this.
Haiti had enough!!
Kenyan police is the most brutal police in the world. How couldn't they help?
@@marcrooseler they actually frame it as 'lunch-money"?
I am part of the first generation of Haitian Americans born a raised in the United States. I served in the US Navy, and I have a Law Enforcement background. I am just one of many Haitian Americans who have a skill that can be utilized in Haiti. In this first generation, there are doctors, EMTs, architects, engineers, IT professionals, and many others who will have a vested interest in bringing structure and order. If the US really wanted to do something, they would reach out to this group here in the US. The US could have easy put a peace core made of this group and used the money to back the peace core instead of to foreign interests that will have no vested interest in Haiti. Put the call out and watch how many of us will respond to the call.
Exactly as a first gen Haitian myself I say the all the time, we have enough skilled Haitians around the world that are VALUABLE and can be integral in the reconstruction of our homeland
I doubt they want to be part of a homeland that has nothing to offer to them. Let's be real: they aren't willing to be there RIGHT NOW because of the collapsed security situation and altruism DOES NOT pay bills. The US trued TWO TIMES to calm the situation down and it got worse every time it happened...
Sounds good if the country was in a ceasefire . But until that is done then military intervention has to take place
I’m with you my brother 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🫡
They don’t want people with vested interests. See all the excrements they’ve been given us as leaders.
Nobody talks about the elephant in the room?
Fighting and taking its independence, FRANCE and AMERICA being the main bullies. Yets they provide aid. Feeding the chicken on camera then eating it when camera its off
Whats in for president ruto
Don't talk about your mother like that.
Wouldn't French speaking African countries be a better choice?
Some have offered troops .Kenya isn't alone
They're too busy dealing with coups and insurgents.
There is something that’s not adding up…Kenya is an English talking nation…Haiti speak French…Kenya lays geologically in east Africa…but in west and North Africa where most countries speak French and geographically closer to Haiti 🇭🇹 would have been easier and more convenient to ask help from…so if you see…this doesn’t add up it’s just totally wrong…
But Kenya has a long history of sending police officers to troubled zones.most West Africa countries have no experience.
CAPACITY!!
All these countries you mentioned don't want to lead the force, do you think because they speak french they are willing to stand with Haiti? Only Kenya accepted the challenge
im sorry t say...but kenya is not standing up for anything. its just moneytalks@@Brian-bo4bz
You are thinking like a small girl. Kenyan police are not going there to socialize with the gangs. Language is not a problem.
Critics of the plan have yet to suggest a reasonable alternative.
How about FOR ONCE instead of bringing boots bullets disease and corruption to Ayiti, how about sending waste management solution?? 100 million is alot, how about a souvernty fund that allows Haiti to finally enter the Industrial Age and DEVELOP?? Kenyans have no military business in Haiti and if they go they will die for nothing.
@@elliotleef4823 so you want to hand over a huge sum of money to a place with no functional government and blatant corruption? 🤣 yeah, I'm sure that would be better. Without basic security and institutions you can't do anything, and that requires monopoly on use of force. Modern state 101
@@elliotleef4823 I am not sure if you are aware, but Haiti is currently being ran by a group of terrorist.
You are either short sighted or have no knowledge of Ayiti’s history of constant foreign intervention…. Ayiti needs proper FOOD SECURITY, waste management, teachers, doctors, EDUCATORS to help move Ayiti through the Industrial Age since it has been choked of that right due to corruption and FOREIGN INTERVENTION. Ayiti doesn’t need Kenya, or “troops”. You sound like someone who has never visited the country!
@rafael_lana are you asking another person to think for you? It's really not that complicated npc
The conditions under which ordinary Haitians are living under is
not sustainable.
There is nothing to sustain in those circumstances. I am not sure there was anything sustainable before this outbreak. Haitians need an opportunity to define their direction
The only advice here President Ruto can call Jimmy Barbercue and speak to him over the phone before he can sendsoldiers.He must be the mediator of peace not with the army.
We need to pray for Haiti as African Continent.Let's spread love for them.
You notice the united states has no intentions of sending its soldiers to haiti
99% of kenyans oppose this death wish laced with promises of financial incentives to ruto. and the court ruling cannot be overturned although they are trying to. its business masquerading as a mission.
and no one wonders how the KSH is doing so well in the same months?
United States, once again, SELLING WAR!
Imagine failing to deal with security in Kenya you want to deal with Haitis insecurity..Kenyan leaders have failed miserably
There's no insecurity in Kenya. You cant compare whats going on in Kenya to whats going on in Haiti
@@frankanyona2857 so the constant news about never-ending bandit attacks going on in Rift Valley must then be deliberate lies told by govt? If they have failed to deal with these few bandits in an area they should be familiar with, what do you think they will do in a foreign land whose government has been completely overrun by criminals? GOK is sending those police officers to their early grave.
@frankanyona2857 ummm is Al Shabab not in Mombasa anymore??? Or other islamists??
@@expos4everac Those ones were all finished. There's no longer such a group. Do your research
@@frankanyona2857 Do you live in Kenya?
No one country can help Haiti's very desperate situation, however, if many of these larger and better equipped and prepared nations will also help, I'm sure they will get the job done. Haiti needs divine intervention, because no one seems to want to help Haiti.
France messed up Haiti big time. Its time the French Legion revisit its International Policy especially with the Countries they colonized.
Why sending Kenyan Police, instead of sending the Kenyan Defense? This is a job too much for the Kenyan police.
The biggest problem is ,Haiti never holds its corrupt leaders accountable. The population is more loyal to a core group than the nation in as a whole. While others that try to help are uses a scapegoat leaving its ppl distracted and unfortunately abandoned.
Kenya should mind its own business.
It’s the west that’s pushing it.
So just leave Haiti to its fate then?
@@The88Cheat yes...Recruit Haitians from Abroad, not funded by the US/Canada/France or kenya. I'm in.
@The88Cheat leave them, anytime a US backed intervention is done in a foreign soil it's bring no good at the end. Kenya president is a puppet of the white House, I don't believe he's acting in good faith for the Haiti, he has received money from US govt to carry this foolish exercise. Let Hatians fight their own battle.
At least someone is thinking of doing something 😢
Doing something is not always the best option.
Because NO one is thinking of building proper waste management, sewage system. They just want to spill Ayisien blood and make money doing it!!
Afcurse some one have to help
All my support for the Kenyan mission
USA/Canada have had decades to solve the problems
Key and is just the face or front for the US and Canada etc
Kenya is just a us puppet
so... working for the us/canada is better? They sent in way more than kenya is sending and have been there and is still there... how specifically is the help happening? I'll travel back there and see for myself. First hand witnessing can't be beat.
Idk ken ya?
its not 1000 police. It would be about 3000 with the troops being offered from countries other than Kenya. Also, trained forces with good equipment like the Kenyans have would be very effective against untrained gangs.
WHO WILL BE LIABLE FOR MISBEHAVING KENYAN POLICE, SHOULD THEY MISBEHAVE?
Kenyan’s are not the only ones thinking about going .
@@Frugal637 I know, and the US paying them/for it. Gonna be rough.
Pessimism already?
@@manfromthepast My experience from the past leads me to that. Perhaps it will go well. Unique for today...
It is a matter of Kenya saying. "We will get the ball rolling. Will anyone else do anything? Anything?"
then kenya is not only blind deaf and dumb, but catering to colonizers. This isn't a new mission, there are already UN and other forces there doing "things" for the past 2-3 decades. When their forces get there, they'll be met by "helpers' who've been there for years. Not sure if anyone else is paying attention, kenya heistantly agreed at first... and within the time of acceptance... the KSH has gotten stronger despite investors leaving... interesting eh?
Why UN not sending peacekeeping to haiti
The 1000 Police Officers is part of UN Multinational Force.
They tried that already. The Peacekeepers were abusing children again.
The kenyan president looks more haitian than haiti's president, lmfao
Nope!!! He is simply responding to the order of USA
@@woodleyrosier2796lol Kenya’s president is far from an American puppet lol more like a Chinese puppet lol
@@woodleyrosier2796lol just because you don’t like a leader decision doesn’t mean he’s getting orders from another nation lol that he himself criticizes lol
Let the leader of the strongest gang control the country so he will stop burning it down.
What do that mean ? We look more like tribes from west and central Africa 🇭🇹🇸🇳🇳🇬🇨🇬🇨🇩🇦🇴
Kenyan Police is one of the most corrupt in the world. And brutal too disregarding human rights
Says who ? that would be american or european police
@@TheTeddykimaniKimani. I as a Kenyan and other Kenyans know this. Kenyan police are corrupt and brutal.
@@TheTeddykimaniif you think qmerican and european police are violent you clearly havent traveled much 😂 the difference is in those countries you're allowed to criticize them and live
@rafael_lana I have I respect our Kenyan police more keep your perceived false narrative to yourself but do not say negative things about our country....I live here
@@TheTeddykimani the one with false narrative is you buddy, check the numbers on people killed by police in Kenya and the US/Europe and tell me which one kills more. Specially Europe. It's hard data, there's no debate.
Ruto looking at $$$$$$, he doesn’t care loosing 1000 kenyan citizens over $$$
Why didn’t you interview the ones supporting the move toooooo
Did anyone actually believe the gangs would give up control when he stepped down? Lmao
There's a difference between kdf and Kenya police why is the dw reporter lying about Kenya police going to yugoslavia
Are you okay? Are you having a stroke?
@@ericdpeerik3928 maybe it's your mother
@@willisg4789 my mother joined the Kenyan police? 🤔 Is everything okay at home, kid? Are you having troubles?
Kenya biting more than it can chew. Kiherehere tu!
There will a language barrier for sure.
That's the first thing I thought!
That is NOT good
Divide Haiti inti two countries. This would help the stability in Haiti. Persons can choose their tribe to follow.
Wtf are you saying? We don’t do tribes in Haiti this is not Africa
Haiti don't have tribe
Kenyan police are used to collecting bribes on the streets “kitu kidogo, soda, chai” but not doing anything like fighting gangs. I can’t imagine how scared they must be after hearing this kind of news 😂😂. Mr. Ruto is trying to secure some payments through this, but he rather finds something else to sell and let these boys enjoy the bribes.
Kenya need to fix it self frist before intervening in another country's affairs😮
Kenya doesn't have any political instability issues, what do you mean
You sound selfish
Kenya is a highly tribalistic nation ruled by a tribal chief(Ruto) who cares only about stealing from public coffers and hiring friends from his tribe for lucrative government positions so that they can plunder and invest taxpayers' money in Dubai instead of developing Kenya.
Kenya police is a general name there several sections under kenya police, the one on the picture is traffic police, there's the administration police, general service unit police custom and border protection police, anti terror police the recce, G company , those to be deployed are recce, anti terror police unit, GSU if you don't who they are, UA-cam is useful
Finally someone said some truth.... These MFs can and will handle anything but their methods maybe tricky 😂😂
I learnt this during my first time in Kenya driving. My brother in law told me to set cruise control on the expressway which I thought was a bit fast and right as we were quickly approaching a car labelled police. I put my brakes on and he asked me what I was doing? I pointed to the police and he laughed. At that moment two more cars flew past me and the apparently not traffic department of the police judging by the fact the police car didn’t flinch 🤣
I personally think it’s a good idea. The Haitian military is undermanned and underarmed. They can use the help.
What military Haiti doesn't have a military
you must not know much about this subject.
They need clean water and proper sewage system!!! Not troops! No more troops, they’ve been bringing troops over 200 years and the cycle continues. Ayiti will NEVER accept foriegn military intervention……
Smh… every effort to help Haiti will fail since no one is listening to the people that is struggling with life..
We have never sent any POLICE out of Kenya in any mission period.
but your media says they were sent
You don't know what you're saying.... Kenya Police Officers have been deployed for Foreign missions, Kindly ask for information if you don't know.
Deploying the Kenya army might be reasonable but police is unacceptable and unconstitutional.
"a 100 or so coppers".. It's a 1000 first of all and why are YOU editorializing? Why don't you just report the facts?
I haven't watched the video yet, but we (Kenya) are sending a batch of 100 - 200 cops for starters
Although as a Haitian, I appreciate the help of our brothers from Kenya. What I don't understand is, why would president of Kenya agreed to clean the mess of the CORP GROUP led by the US.?
Ok, I misread the title as Kanye.
A 1000 police?What a joke!
That money should be used to help us here look at the way it still flooding in nairobi na unapeleka watu haiti. Bad decision for sure Mr president youll regret it.
Kenyans don’t support that mission in totality.Whom are they to support,there’s no Government in Haiti?
Haitians did not ask for this, whoever signed us up for it have no legality, this is not going to end well.
Haiti lost every right to ask for something .
@@mamamiya-et4uz be quiet
Do not do it. You should know the history.
My peoples in Haiti or no joke you guys are not ready for us🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹💙
Yeah, 200yrs of nationhood with instability. Haiti has never been ready for self rule.
Also those unseen 🧟🧟♂️soliders that they not ready for
This comment suggests you are part of a gang which is the problem to begin with.
200 years of evil foreign intervention. 200 years of western countries stealing resources and hijacking government policy. Go learn the history before you come here sounding ignorant!!
this barbecue is delusional
compared to Somalians el shabab
Kenyan police would put him in thier pocket easily
Nah they need a miltary not police.
Im so surprised we dont send troops from the US
1000 Trained and Fortified Police Officers Not, simply 100. Stay on Point with the Narrative. Risking your Credibility.
He said 100s which is true.
@@tomsriver2838 Apply that Thought Process too your Pay-Check if you dare!
@@tomsriver2838 apply that thought process to your paycheck I dare you!
@@tomsriver2838 Apply that same Thought Process to your Paycheck, I dare.
As a Kenyan, I don't want any of our troops to go to Haiti. It's disturbing that the president is wiling to sacrifice our sons and daughters for a cause that neither concerns nor benefits us. We have our own problems here to handle and taking our soldiers from their families to fight in a foreign war is not viable. It's UNACCEPTABLE! Haiti can take care of themselves!
I am Kenyan and we have no business in Haiti our police can't even speak French. This move is very unpopular in the country
Someone please help explain, except the second return of a religious figure, what causes so much conflict, intolerance, micro aggression in the universe?
They said Kenya has no business there... well neither does the US
There are more than 1000 force from Kenya alone are going and this is misleading?
It's a shame. Pray for the innocent people and children in Haiti.
The only chance the Haitians have is to stand up to the gangs. Even if there are thousands of casualties, the Haitian people have to take care of this.
I fear they may target these Kenyans to make a point not to send in foreign forces. Many/most may lose their lives.
Wagner in Africa? But not Kenya for Africans? Why not?
Because we never created the Haiti problem and we don't have the capacity to do anything
We will join and unite africa
The US isn't paying Kenya to intervene in Francafrique.
Send Kenyan police along with Mexican, El Salvadoran, French and Caribbean marines
french?
Language barrier,Haitian speak french,Kenyan speak English,that is already a challenge
We Kenyans are against this .
You and not we.
@@AndrealaguidaturisticaAll of us are apart from you
This is a big set up. You can see that clearly in her face.
Kenya and the diaspora should go there and be welcomed with flowers by all Haitian parties involved in the conflict.
Haiti needs a new name
Let people stop dying of fear, if we can fight to make peace where there is no peace let do so without any worry . let try ourselves.
I like the interview with the UN rep...very eloquent. My advice to our young Edith Kimani is to respect Kenyan Presidency when reporting
Kenya is not French speaking. Can they communicate in French with Haitians 🤔
Train our own brothers and sisters in the United States the Haitian people
Kote nou? Figure that one out, who's in? There are lots of trained Haitians, question is, who's side do we take? We need a cease fire and a grouping to see who's being funded by who, kick out rusty foreign aligned politicians. Seek funding from non western countries, to include kenya and anyone who is funded by them. Work with the countries Haiti has historically helped with their independences. In any case. Fund me, you, to train our own.
@@marcrooseler Give me some training and arm and airsupport and I will be happy to go. I speak Creole. I wouldn't mind giving up my life for the cause.
As much as Kenya’s proposal should be considered and lauded even, an UN multinational force comprised of French- speaking military forces would be more appropriate. The police would be militarised as a result which can have important democratic consequences for Kenya when these police return.
Kenya needs to fix itself before it goes and tries to help anyone else. This seems like a power grab, plus the Haiti gangs that are in control already said he will consider this an act of war
Kenyan chicken coming to get barbecue😂😂😢😂
TOOOOOOmuch Am...Am.....Ammm.....! Very disturbing and taking away from the content of the discussions on the part of the Lady being interviewed.
People who are opposing this should come up with a solution , don't just complain , find a solution to the gang problem
There are tons of opposition solutions and proposals. Someone is not paying attention in class
So what's the point....No one offered to help...Kenya did, now all these criticism how does it help resolve...let Germany deploy a force since it already doesn't need the peacekeeping dollars...right sense?
These arguments are made based on political alignment. Meaning if you supported Ruto during the 2022 elections, chances are the you will support Ruto's choices, even if they're harming other people.
The problem here is that the US that has been destabilizing Haiti for over 200 years including sponsoring a coup in 2004 that abducted a president voted in by 90% of Haitians and transported him to a strange country 10,000 kilometers away. The US president called his French counterpart to celebrate the successful coup. Allegedly, US/France were also involved in 2020.
Kenyans pretending to care about Haiti did not care before our white US masters recently hired us to do their bidding. Not even during the 2010 earthquake that killed _220,000_ (!!) Haitians.
Even if we do bring temporary peace in Haiti, we're apparently being used like Idi Amin of Uganda was used to suppress an uprising against the colonial British govt in Kenya. It probably won't solve the problems of Haiti long term... it will only serve to delay the emergence of a perennially peaceful and prosperous Haiti, because the democratic choices of Haitians are not respected, and leaders they do not choose forced upon them.
Bout time a nation helps them out
Haiti had been going on like this from the revolution back in the Eighteen thirties if i am correct
it is good to believe in ourselves
"First of all the United States" literally misinfo there hat-lady
25000 Haitian police can't do it, but 1000+ can
They DISBANDED their own army?
That makes alot of sense George musamali
Kenya has a lot business to do in Haati. Kudos to Kenya
Kenya shouldn't send police there. Not safe at all 😢
Justice 4 Haiti 💜💯
Where are the Kenyan police? They are nowhere to be seen. All big mouth and nothing else.
Police with zero experience in urban combat, in an extremely hostile far of country where the locals speak French. This will be our Stalingrad.
I don't think 1000 policemen can do much. How about soldiers?
How about EDUCATORS?
How about condoms?
This is nonsensical reporting.
Ruto should stop acting as if other people's opinion. I hope he gets to watch this.
Have they consulted Barbecue about this plan? Facts on the ground.
Bringing the international force in Haiti is not the solution, cause they have to bring a body bag, this is how they gonna end up. First of all only the Haitians people can choose who they want to be in charge, point blank period?