Dangerously fake eBay "ioniser" (with dire schematic)

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  • Опубліковано 8 гру 2022
  • There are harmless quack products on eBay and then there are fake products that have been deliberately designed from scratch to be deceptive.
    The manufacturer of this one clearly has no grasp of electrical theory, and has faked the circuitry so badly that they've ended up referencing the output carbon fibre emitters directly to mains voltage.
    Worse still, they've spent so much effort faking the product that they could have built a REAL one for close to the same price.
    Thanks to Adi for reminding me that these things exist. I recall coming across one a very long time ago, so there must be a market for them if they are still being sold.
    If you enjoy these videos you can help support the channel with a dollar for coffee, cookies and random gadgets for disassembly at:- www.bigclive.com/coffee.htm
    This also keeps the channel independent of UA-cam's algorithm quirks, allowing it to be a bit more dangerous and naughty.
    #ElectronicsCreators
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  • @LewinEdwards
    @LewinEdwards Рік тому +510

    Plot twist: This isn't a fake product. Unbeknownst to Big Clive, "designing products to troll Big Clive" is now one of the premier e-sports in Shenzen. This product was made specifically as bait to see how he'd review it.

    • @agentblueuk
      @agentblueuk Рік тому +39

      Well that puts a new twist on bear bating

    • @collectorguy3919
      @collectorguy3919 Рік тому +27

      It's a business model. People buy these products specifically because Clive reviewed them and they're so awful they want to tear them down too.

    • @kobirelf97
      @kobirelf97 Рік тому +3

      @@collectorguy3919 👀how did you know what I enjoy doing 🤣

    • @Jeriun
      @Jeriun Рік тому

      Didn't realize "plot twist" was still a thing

    • @MikehMike01
      @MikehMike01 Рік тому

      China is laughing at the West all the way to the bank

  • @wimwiddershins
    @wimwiddershins Рік тому +717

    Reminds me of a mate at highschool who had elaborate methods of cheating in tests. He could've spent half the effort just learning the stuff.

    • @Pentti_Hilkuri
      @Pentti_Hilkuri Рік тому +46

      But learning the stuff only helps you with that one specific test. =)

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 Рік тому +14

      Kobayashi Maru.

    • @objection_your_honor
      @objection_your_honor Рік тому +78

      I was that mate!
      I built an FM transmitter and receiver in soap boxes. Wore the receiver and fed the earpiece through my shirt and around my ear lobe, covered by my long hair.
      Sat by the windows and threw my question sheet out the window, and claimed I didn't get one.
      Meanwhile, two grade 12 friends were outside that picked up the question sheet, and transmitted the answers in to my ear.
      Grade 10 Geography was never easier. And a hell of a lot of fun to build and mess with.

    • @bluerizlagirl
      @bluerizlagirl Рік тому

      Like Dick Dastardly from Wacky Races -- he is always in the lead by fair means when he begins his elaborate scheme to cheat!

    • @paulstubbs7678
      @paulstubbs7678 Рік тому +20

      @The Drone Ranger Yeah, making dodgy ioniser's because he never actually got an education.

  • @SilvaD702
    @SilvaD702 Рік тому +328

    I've wondered if they're acquiring injection molds that once belonged to others (leftovers from r&d, mold errors, unpaid projects, etc) and then try to figure out the cheapest way to stuff some type of semi-working guts into them to give the appearance of a viable product...

    • @ehsnils
      @ehsnils Рік тому +21

      That's one way to keep down the population of the world.

    • @IanSlothieRolfe
      @IanSlothieRolfe Рік тому +42

      I've seen videos of people strolling around the vast Schenzen electronics markets, and there are people selling these "generic" cases and other plastic moldings by the thousand for pennies each. Thats why so many Chinese products look the same but are branded different, and have different internals. I get the impression that if a company comissions molds to make cases for a product, once that order has been fulfilled and the molding looks sellable they just go on making them and sell them on the market to smaller companies looking for a cheap case or mechanism. Copyright in China and across the far east is a somewhat flexible concept.

    • @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
      @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Рік тому +14

      @@IanSlothieRolfe As no "copyright laws" exsist in China once someone spends their time and money designing a product others just seem to copy it without the same expense.

    • @samuelfellows6923
      @samuelfellows6923 Рік тому +1

      And the Chineseum crap factory’s pick up the leftovers and make crap with them and “export only” to the west, and expect us to buy them, and eventually throw in the electronic waste. While managing to fool standards/customs from intercepting and destroying them 😠⚠️

    • @IanSlothieRolfe
      @IanSlothieRolfe Рік тому +21

      @@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Oh, if you copied something made by a company run by or that supported the CCP you'd find out about copyright pretty fast....

  • @gloomyblackfur399
    @gloomyblackfur399 Рік тому +153

    It's like that Swees USB adapter you tested. There's so much "all that stands between you and the mains is an 1/8w resistor" or "sub-millimeter separation" in cheap products, it's actually refreshing to see one where there's no separation at all.

  • @ftldny
    @ftldny Рік тому +41

    It's sold under various names at Amazon USA: "Tbh not sure if it even works because I can’t tell the difference. I stopped using it though because it shocked me up my arm."
    And from a review site: "Customer complaints include receiving mild electric shocks from these units and they may be particularly unsuitable if you have young children or pets in your home."

    • @Vilvaran
      @Vilvaran Рік тому +8

      Nothing more than a mild warning for a device designed to waste poor people's money - and a little bit more!
      Between these, dangerous diy videos and fake batteries - it seems like there's just too much in common, either someone wants you dead [why?]; or otherwise wants to kill 'the maker' - that undead adage of "don't burn the house down!" gets it's merit from examples set by fools; and these malcreations...

    • @rjmun580
      @rjmun580 Рік тому +12

      Don't forget that the European supply is nominally 220 volts. Getting a shock at this level is a completely different story to one from a 120 volt system. Mild shocks and 220 volts don't belong in the same sentence

    • @ftldny
      @ftldny Рік тому +4

      @@rjmun580 Yes, very good point. The ones on Amazon USA are all 120V of course.

    • @mernok2001
      @mernok2001 Рік тому +3

      @@rjmun580 200 volts doesnt exist in Europe anymore. Almost all countries standardized 230 V as the nominal voltage in the 1990s.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Рік тому

      @@rjmun580 on the other hand, European shoppers at least have the nominal protection of the CE classification system...
      If they aren't too ignorant to look for it.

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix066 Рік тому +97

    Clive, it's about time the company did an upgrade combining all, in a compact, plug-in unit - an ioniser, power saver and pest repellent of all critters. Now that circuit would be worth analysing.

    • @treborrrrr
      @treborrrrr Рік тому +10

      For the people "designing" these things that would just mean putting a different label on the box.

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Рік тому +6

      If they made a real one, I guess it would just be an ioniser and pest repellent, given that the power savers are BS? I could imagine one of those death fan insect trap things that lures them in with pretty lights and sucks them down through a fan. Perhaps a decent corona discharge would attract the bugs while ionising the air (although, of course, then it wouldn't be a 'repellent' but the aim is still 'less bugs')

    • @channelsixtysix066
      @channelsixtysix066 Рік тому +1

      @@treborrrrr That's an excellent solution. It's cheap, quick and as a result, be put on the market for sale straight away. I recommend you apply for lead designer for label engineering.

    • @channelsixtysix066
      @channelsixtysix066 Рік тому +4

      @@aliveandwellinisrael2507 The power saver function can be added for free, as part of the device upgrade. The power saved can then be used to power the other functions. Sniffff - Aaahhhh I Love The Smell Of Fried Insects In The Evening.

    • @mikepembo8297
      @mikepembo8297 Рік тому +3

      And an ODB2 reader for your house :)

  • @Zanthum
    @Zanthum Рік тому +35

    We need to keep in mind after all that we are talking about people who counterfeit nuts and even eggs. Not edible counterfeit eggs, like egg substitute, just things that look like eggs till you eat them and then you die from ingesting whatever chemicals they were made of.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Рік тому +9

      The eggs were made with sodium alginate and a savoury liquid. Probably not harmful, but not good to fry.

  • @mizterwizerd
    @mizterwizerd Рік тому +418

    When it's sooooo bad that Clive does his best to not giggle like a school child seeing a naughty image badly drawn on the wall, you can not help but giggle right along 🤣

    • @Daremo6969
      @Daremo6969 Рік тому +8

      haha, this is why i watch as well. I have what is best described (and charitably so) a child understanding of electronics but I watch cos I like his personality and way of explaining things. That makes it entertaining for someone like me to watch/listen to.

    • @jkobain
      @jkobain Рік тому +8

      @@Daremo6969 for me, childhood means curiosity, confusion and fun.
      Therefore, Clive's videos bring me a lot of childhood, any day of the year. ^_^

    • @Daremo6969
      @Daremo6969 Рік тому +5

      @@jkobain yeah, as I've passed 50, those memories are long gone (mostly)....I don't even remember that person anymore...

  • @LtKernelPanic
    @LtKernelPanic Рік тому +42

    It's almost like someone was designing a real product then went aww screw it.

  • @moconnell663
    @moconnell663 Рік тому +35

    I think they've made the pins live intentionally, so that anyone who touches them gets a jolt of high voltage to reinforce that the device actually does something.

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Рік тому +6

      If they're still, you know, alive afterwards

    • @moconnell663
      @moconnell663 Рік тому +4

      @@aliveandwellinisrael2507 a prickle from a high voltage brush isn't going to harm you much unless you are otherwise grounded. I've gotten a good shock while part of me was grounded, and just a tickle if I wasn't firmly grounded.

    • @brucepickess8097
      @brucepickess8097 Рік тому +2

      @@moconnell663 Hi, so you got a 'good ' shock , hmmmmm meaning enjoyable, pleasant, agreeable, pleasing, pleasurable, delightful, great, nice, lovely, amusing, jolly, merry, cheerful, congenial, super, fantastic, fabulous, terrific, glorious, grand wow, how weird are you.⚡⚡😏

    • @LaterMeansBrick
      @LaterMeansBrick Рік тому +6

      Maybe the empty spots for the missing resistors were meant for current limiting just to allow enough electricity trough for a tingle in the initial design but then it would cost additional 2 cents sothey went with full on death ionizer pins.

    • @arandomcommenter412
      @arandomcommenter412 Рік тому +2

      @@brucepickess8097 Is this a joke or what

  • @JohnClulow
    @JohnClulow Рік тому +57

    Thank goodness it at least had the CA prop 65 warning label on it.

    • @waltp3373
      @waltp3373 Рік тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @ailivac
      @ailivac Рік тому

      mains voltage: known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects

    • @azumanga111
      @azumanga111 Рік тому +5

      Never mind that there's no way it could be used in California, due to the plug or the voltage.

    • @dougbrowning82
      @dougbrowning82 Рік тому +3

      Apparently, the only concern about these things is a potential risk of cancer and birth defects, and even that is only a concern in the state of California.

    • @uNiels_Heart
      @uNiels_Heart 27 днів тому

      @@dougbrowning82 From chemicals, of all things, if I understood it correctly. So maybe you're supposed to eat it rather than plug it in 🤔

  • @oasntet
    @oasntet Рік тому +55

    Dire schematics are a bit like normal schematics, only a bit bigger and a bit more savage and primitive in nature.

    • @Lemon_Inspector
      @Lemon_Inspector Рік тому +12

      They get double hit dice and +3 natural armor.

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek Рік тому +1

      with a proportionally bigger head

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 Рік тому +4

      They're also fairly easy to tame and can be ridden without a saddle.

  • @jkobain
    @jkobain Рік тому +3

    When YT suggested me some of your videos, I didn't think I'm here to stay.
    It happened like three or four years ago, I don't even know, but I subscribed after watching several unusually calm, friendly and interesting videos, and I'm happy since then.

    • @Toca_waffle843
      @Toca_waffle843 Рік тому +1

      Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. Or should that be resistors are futile?

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi Рік тому +267

    Impressive. You should rebuild the unit into a real working ionizer as cheaply as possible just to see what they could have done

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 Рік тому +50

      And then send it to the original manufacturer with a note explaining how they could have made MORE profit using jellybean ionizer and power supply modules instead of their custom designed bogus bullshit.

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff Рік тому +32

      After you get it working you could send it back as faulty! 🤣

    • @Yrouel86
      @Yrouel86 Рік тому +10

      It would be just half of that pcb with the LED plus an actual ionizer module, or not even LED but a neon indicator and a ionizer module

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Рік тому +3

      I agree! I'd love to see that video.

    • @christophergrove4876
      @christophergrove4876 Рік тому +3

      @@TheWebstaff HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  • @kakurerud7516
    @kakurerud7516 Рік тому +17

    there is a strong possibility that that scam happened earlier on in the parts supply chain. Ive actually ran into one revision of a thing being fake and another being real.

    • @LatitudeSky
      @LatitudeSky Рік тому +1

      Scams happen at every level. Component suppliers swap in bogus parts, assembly contractors use child labor, the packaging companies stole the box design and are also selling it to other companies, and the shipping companies are highjacking the product and subbing in a fake. And every step of the way everybody is swearing they are totally in compliance. Eventually you get so much fraud in a product that it loops around and becomes good. This is not one of those.

    • @rtechlab6254
      @rtechlab6254 Рік тому +19

      Its a well known trick. We were shipped laptop power supplies to test for one of our suppliers. We tortured and destroyed them and sent back the bits announcing it actually took a fair bit to do, they all failed safe and were pretty good, definitely on a par with the original Delta units. Supplier said thank you, ordered a ton of stock, and then a few weeks later, fores, failures and explosions started. The actual stock was borderline lethal. The Chinese supplier sent initial units for certification and evaluation, then having got the contract, sent worthless junk in the same packing and cases. We checked a couple and it was a horror show

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Рік тому +6

      @@rtechlab6254 reminds me of the eBay one I bought that spit out so much RFI it made the laptop malfunction, on teardown it looked pretty scary, board went straight to junkbox and I just used the cable to fix the old one.

  • @ChindoCaine
    @ChindoCaine Рік тому +50

    That's a million dollar idea right there - a 3-in-1 power-saving, insect-repelling ionizer device! You should get that patented! 😂
    Shaking my head about this thing though. I mean it's one thing to just sell an "ionizer" that has nothing inside but a few blinking LEDs, but going to the lengths of designing a circuit board and a potted module that both look very important to average Joe but have absolutely no function (and can by mistake even shock you) - wow. Wouldn't be surprised if it was actually slightly more expensive to design this useless thing than putting together a real functioning device out of existing components.

    • @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
      @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Рік тому +8

      It may be the manufacturer of dodgy goods got duped by another manufacturer of dodgy components. After all they arent going to do any batch testing of the product ato see if it works.

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Рік тому +2

      @@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse That's true... might be a case of the Chinese Chinesing the Chinese

    • @bbgun061
      @bbgun061 Рік тому +1

      I don't understand why they would put extra components to make it appear functional. Anyone who does open it up is going to figure out it's fake. Someone who knows nothing about electronics isn't going to open it in the first place...

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Рік тому

      A shocking new innovation! 🤣

  • @nemo-x
    @nemo-x Рік тому +12

    The fact that they care about it looking real and at the same time connected live to the emitters makes me think it's deliberate to give people a strong albeit likely not lethal shock since a person wouldn't tough all the bristles.

    • @U20E0
      @U20E0 Рік тому +8

      the best theory i’ve seen is that they tried to make yet another “technically it does make a few ions” ionizer, but themselves got scammed when using third-party components.

    • @sweetypuss
      @sweetypuss Рік тому

      @@U20E0 when you sleep with dogs, you get fleas. so that makes the most sense

  • @johnwalton5576
    @johnwalton5576 Рік тому +2

    "It's you that will be ionized" LOL!! I laughed my ass off when you said that Clive!

  • @zh84
    @zh84 Рік тому +68

    One of the op-amps has its two inputs wired together. If it's a differential amplifier like the 741 I used to play with in school, that would mean the output was permanently nothing.
    Edit: 6:45 "More components make more realer!" And that's how you design an electrical circuit.

    • @dj1NM3
      @dj1NM3 Рік тому +12

      This kind-of reminds of the "Chinese mystery pistols" that #ForgottenWeapons did some videos and published a book on, where there are fake features which look almost like they were copied by some-one who didn't understand what they did or how they worked, but sort-of cargo-culted a rough ersatz of a half-remembered real device.

    • @zh84
      @zh84 Рік тому +19

      @@dj1NM3 My father the mediaeval historian told me that some European coinages in the Middle Ages copied coin issues from the Islamic world - complete with the inscription saying "There is no god but Allah", which they thought was just a decorative squiggle!

    • @dj1NM3
      @dj1NM3 Рік тому +6

      @@zh84 It's impressive that the copiers didn't even realise that they were copying writing, but did so well that it could be read.
      The most famous "brand" inscription used on those mystery pistols is "Wauser", sometimes stamped several times in a row.

    • @zh84
      @zh84 Рік тому +6

      @@dj1NM3 As I understand it, the "decorative" inscription got harder to read over time as it came further from the Arabic original.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen Рік тому +2

      It’s *almost* an op amp multivibrator. But not quite.

  • @randacnam7321
    @randacnam7321 Рік тому +22

    I would desolder the IC and test it. It may well be that it is a dead factory reject chip that was bought for scrap since it will be used in a useless application anyway. I know there is a substantial market for these nonfunctional ICs, as an electronics class I had in college almost a decade ago had a huge problem with fake 74LS04s, some of which were just resistor network lead frames with no resistors. One even had 16 pins.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Рік тому +14

      Apparently they laser mark random chips to order.

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Рік тому +3

      @@bigclivedotcom Really? I knew there were a lot of fake 'basically the same thing' versions of common components out there, but that's pretty bad. Guess I shouldn't put anything past them.

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Рік тому +3

      @@aliveandwellinisrael2507 I've even heard of nonfunctional TO-92 transistors, either empty or wildly wrong like BJTs marked as JFETs. IIRC the cheap eBay opamps that behave roughly like an opamp are mostly a handful of the same low performance dies put in different packages.

  • @jkobain
    @jkobain Рік тому +24

    When Clive says something is *dangerously fake,* he is all serious about it.

  • @trevann8213
    @trevann8213 Рік тому +4

    I like how it feels like the time this went from concept phase to actual production was 30 minutes

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA Рік тому +7

    Will say every component on the main board is likely a recycled one, whatever was cheapest on the market that day, and was bought by the kilogram for use. The only part that was critical was the resistors for the LED's, those probably bome from a bin of selected value resistors not to blow up the LED's, and then the rest are potluck. Seems that day they had a lot of 120k resistors going cheap, and any 8 pin IC was used, solder blob by accident, because the internal diode will conduct anyway. Ioniser module DIY, because that was 3c cheaper than buying a real one, and possibly they also have a market selling the real items, and put fakes in some deliveries to improve profit margin, putting the fakes in the loads to the drop reshippers, who also do not care.

  • @Random-re5fc
    @Random-re5fc Рік тому +11

    Hay Clive, I would love to see some fake gas/ carbon monoxide detectors. I am sure you would be able to fine some on eBay. It would be interesting to see how bad they are and dangerous they are.

  • @kay110
    @kay110 Рік тому +34

    Its about time ebay did something about these product sellers. I know they won't because the sellers fees are what ebay wants. Somebody is going to die because of these scam units - and ebay don't seem to care.

    • @antisoda
      @antisoda Рік тому +6

      Fixing this would either require proper governmental oversight and strong consumer protection, massive lawsuits, or eBay taking its own initiative. Which one of these is more likely to happen, I leave up to the AI. :)

    • @mernok2001
      @mernok2001 Рік тому +5

      @@antisoda Many people already dies from non isolated USB chargers and notjing changed. And it will get worse as new phones dont come with cargers anymore, most people will buy the cheapest charger they see.

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 Рік тому

      @@antisoda
      Do you think more legislation would help, when the government just ignores it to keep business ties to China?

  • @keithlambell1970
    @keithlambell1970 Рік тому +5

    What an outrageous product. To go to such lengths to make something not only pointless, but dangerous too. I feel sorry for the OpAmp too !

  • @CollectiveSoftware
    @CollectiveSoftware Рік тому +59

    That's just *bizarre*. Imagine the factory turning these out

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Рік тому +56

      It must be a demoralising job potting thousands of fake "things" in resin.

    • @maxximumb
      @maxximumb Рік тому +59

      @@bigclivedotcom I'd wager the people who actually make the fake potted things have no idea what they are producing. To them it's just another electronics component that gets shipped out to an assembly workshop, where other workers assemble the parts and don't know how it all works.

    • @IanSlothieRolfe
      @IanSlothieRolfe Рік тому +23

      Many of these products are assembled by people working at home or with a few people in a shed, then sold to resellers who just want something to ship. They buy cases and parts at the Schenzen markets for pennies and assemble a plausible product. Obviously some don't appear to understand electronics....

    • @1988dgs
      @1988dgs Рік тому +4

      I imagine it’s like the prison from Andor, people making things they have no idea what they are to be used for

    • @venenareligioest410
      @venenareligioest410 Рік тому +10

      For Chinese ‘factory’ or ‘laboratory’ read ‘leaky old shed in a yard’ 😤

  • @brucepickess8097
    @brucepickess8097 Рік тому +1

    Hello Big Clive, the teardown you did survive, from the unit being live, it had components more than five, glad you're still alive, unfortunatly manufacturers of fakes like these will still thrive.⚡🤨⚡🇨🇳👎

  • @Zerbey
    @Zerbey Рік тому +44

    I just love how much fun you're having pulling this apart, but yeah glad you're putting the word out there that such dangerous things exist!

  • @phils4634
    @phils4634 Рік тому +20

    That's not just an ioniser, Mate! It's a very "multifunctional device" that also doubles up as a contact rodent killer too! 🙂

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 Рік тому +3

      Contact human killer too.

    • @joeb3300
      @joeb3300 Рік тому +1

      @@simontay4851 I was about to say, in the US (probably GB too) outlets are mostly run along the bottom 16" of the wall. This would be perfectly located for an infant to come into contact with the live voltage.

  • @bromisovalum8417
    @bromisovalum8417 Рік тому +9

    I think there are certain people over there that really enjoy making bogus electronic products. It must take some dedication.

    • @IntegerOfDoom
      @IntegerOfDoom Рік тому +6

      When you live in a cheap electronics factory what else are you gonna do on your free time?

  • @Shady97342
    @Shady97342 Рік тому +4

    I'd pay so much money to see some sort of series where Clive got a chance to interview the "engineers" who designed all the circuits in these scam products. Would they try to defend their schematics? I wonder what they'd say. I'm sure it'd be hilarious.

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 Рік тому +14

    Man I really love these cheap and dangerous electronics teardowns you do. Thank you for doing these! The "electronic kettle" you got a long time ago will always be on my mind. It's just two leads directly into water, with a plastic case 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @NinoJoel
    @NinoJoel Рік тому +7

    I bought some Jumper cables for a car and was wondering wy they did not work.
    I cut the thick wire and it was 90% insulation and something like 0.75mm copper.
    The packaging was nice and the clamps as well.
    They stated it would start a V8 xD

    • @Halfpipesaur
      @Halfpipesaur Рік тому +2

      Some Chinese engineer made an error in unit conversion and accidentally designed jumper cables for 12kV car batteries XD

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel Рік тому +1

      @@Halfpipesaur yea i was thinking of using it AS spark plug wire but I'm not brave enough to trust the unmarked isulation 💀

  • @HotelPapa100
    @HotelPapa100 Рік тому

    I love that you publish this indictment that eBay is prone to harbor scammers on YT, who insist on bombarding me with ads of similar, if usually more expensive scams...

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. Рік тому +8

    I wonder at times if some of these are just deliberately made to mess with the west, the things I’ve seen on aliexpress from the less scrupulous sellers raise many questions.

    • @haywoodyoudome
      @haywoodyoudome Рік тому +2

      More like they have no clue how things work and just make copies with whatever parts are on hand.

  • @der.Schtefan
    @der.Schtefan Рік тому +6

    This looks like somebody got tasked to do this, had no idea how to do this, just looked at some other version looked like and just added a lot of confusing components to "make the boss happy".

    • @tactileslut
      @tactileslut Рік тому +1

      Two steps closer to right would have been yet more dangerous with both live and neutral passed to the front with a miswired op amp as an explosive nod toward a fusible link.

  • @NielMalan
    @NielMalan Рік тому +5

    This makes me wonder if it's not the manufacturer/assembler getting scammed by their PCB supplier.

  • @TheBypasser
    @TheBypasser Рік тому +3

    You are so brave to start dismantling those things right off! Who knows what is inside, a charged cap, a red-hot resistor, a seized relay that triggers the moment you shake it and blows some IC to bits using the aforementioned cap... Really a work of courage :)

    • @confusedkemono
      @confusedkemono Рік тому +1

      In case of charged cap hazard he usually just does the finger test :P

    • @TheBypasser
      @TheBypasser Рік тому +3

      @@confusedkemono Well, I'm kinda jumpy when things come down to counterfeit electronics. Own experience: a weird malfunction of own devices, unable to communicate yet seem to power up and work. Checked the crystals first, all marked as 14-something, just as needed. Breaking the thrill though, those still indeed were the crystals, as what frequency do the 14-something (forgot the value) MHz ones resonate at? 13.56 of course (well, at least judging by those we got here) :P. And those were not even counterfeit, just a factory issue. Could cost a lot of time and a broken deadline. Truly counterfeit is much worse, say I had a car fan that nearly set itself on fire (the resistor shined like a bulb). Or a (non) "Vago" connector that burned down from half of it's rated current. Or a few mains extension cords that burned too.

  • @dixieduffy7
    @dixieduffy7 Рік тому +2

    Ah my favorite small appliance disassembeler who only posts at 1 am

  • @gregorythomas333
    @gregorythomas333 Рік тому +8

    Any product that gets the Big Clive Giggle has got to be one of the worst ones on the entire planet...definitely not disappointed with this one...so bad it's good :D

  • @xXRenaxChanXx
    @xXRenaxChanXx Рік тому +4

    The scary thing is these scams aren't limited to eBay. I've seen this crap on Amazon too.

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 Рік тому +5

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thats SHOCKING literally.
    Well you got a nice case and 4 nice carbon emitters, you just need to fill the circuitry part yourself. Thanks for getting this so we don't need too. 2x. 👍👍

  • @paulkile9998
    @paulkile9998 Рік тому +2

    I find it hilarious that they went to the trouble of sticking on a California Prop 65 warning on a device with a UK plug that won't work anywhere here in California!

  • @thevaf2825
    @thevaf2825 Рік тому +2

    This looks like as if they have a single "engineer" or outsourced to someone through one of those online outsourcing services, and the "engineer" threw this in their direction and they didn't even check it before rolling out to production.

  • @andydelarue9344
    @andydelarue9344 Рік тому +6

    This is bizarre and dangerous, I wonder if eBay is libel in anyway, and the 65 warning sticker means it’s sold to the states, so it might take a law suit to give us a answer

  • @leongyokeloong5083
    @leongyokeloong5083 Місяць тому

    Thanks Big Clive for providing us with a schematic diagram.

  • @gcewing
    @gcewing Рік тому +1

    The eco-friendly-looking logo is there because their mission is to save the planet by eliminating humans from it.

  • @stephenashford9006
    @stephenashford9006 Рік тому +7

    I really hate we live in a world where scamming is so prevalent😒 I know for some, they feel its their only option but there's too many who could be making decent products but don't.

  • @michaelosmon
    @michaelosmon Рік тому +1

    Unrelated to this video, thank you for showing me how to use free batteries from the trash to power things. I made a marble machine with a rechargeable power source quite easily from your instructions. Thank you again

  • @rayoflight62
    @rayoflight62 Рік тому +3

    The power pins of the dual operational amplifier are shorted. Truly perplexing, because somebody with design experience made this "device" intentionally, as a bet on the public not able to identify the entire device is a scam... Strange world we live in - with the help of eBay...

  • @toine512fr
    @toine512fr Рік тому +2

    DeathDapter seal of approval.

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri Рік тому +1

    This is a great opportunity for a project.MAke it a proper ioniser.

  • @MAGAMAN
    @MAGAMAN Рік тому +1

    Companies like Amazon and Ebay that sell this stuff need to be held legally and financially accountable.

  • @ksbs2036
    @ksbs2036 Рік тому

    Oh gawd, LOL! I really needed this. Clive you are a treasure. I will never be able to repay you for the glimpses of joy you bring into my life. Thank you my wonderful friend that I have never met

  • @olsmokey
    @olsmokey Рік тому +2

    You might find it's easier removing hot melt glue if you spray it with isoprop alcohol. It works it's way into the joint and breaks down the bond.

  • @barrieshepherd7694
    @barrieshepherd7694 Рік тому +3

    Those emitters put a new meaning on the term "Black Death"

  • @Cornz38
    @Cornz38 Рік тому +3

    The biggest "shock" is Ebay and it's continued propensity to turning a blind eye to shoddy and dangerous products.

  • @foogod4237
    @foogod4237 Рік тому +2

    It doesn't need a solder bridge across the chip. The diode up at the top of the diagram connects everything (half-wave rectified) to live anyway.
    Though I wouldn't be surprised if those op-amp ICs were actually bad to begin with too. This really feels like somebody had some bins full of fake/faulty components lying around that they were trying to get rid of, and just decided to throw them all into this "circuit" so they could make some money off of otherwise useless components...
    All they had to do was not actually connect the first half of the circuit to the second half, and it at least wouldn't have been outright hazardous.

  • @dj1NM3
    @dj1NM3 Рік тому +3

    I'm surprised that those carbon brush emitters are real and that there was even a circuit board under the potting, that there were *any* electronic components other than the diode and resistors to light the LEDs.
    My first guess would have been that the carbon brush emitters were just knotted, hot-snotted in into the box and then potted, but that there was continuity to the live pin is just weird.
    It seems that just about as much manual labour (which would be the expensive part) went into this as would go into constructing real ioniser units

    • @antisoda
      @antisoda Рік тому

      If you have a bunch of surplus parts from (perhaps genuine) production runs, plus faulty parts or parts from different products, why _not_ slap them all together and sell them on the side? ;)

  • @dollarama8652
    @dollarama8652 Рік тому +2

    Every time Big C says "Scam" take a shot... 😵🥛

    • @antisoda
      @antisoda Рік тому

      This drinking game is potentially deadlier than the scam products themselves. 🥴🙂

  • @endleontiozae7061
    @endleontiozae7061 Рік тому +1

    Thats the first time ive seen you genuinely laugh at something, it was a nice moment.

  • @kennethjanczak4900
    @kennethjanczak4900 Рік тому

    absolutly amasing that this product got out on the market, amasing that no one said.... HAY, something is wrong her, its absolutly lethal....
    but thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it.

  • @Gengh13
    @Gengh13 Рік тому +6

    They could have put the leds in anti-parallel and could have removed the diode and 1 resistor.

    • @Toca_waffle843
      @Toca_waffle843 Рік тому +3

      I'm amazed at myself for understanding your suggestion, seems like I'm osmotically gaining an understanding of electronics. Thanks

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 Рік тому +2

      @Genghisnico yep, thats what i'd have done

  • @bigsky1970
    @bigsky1970 Рік тому +1

    What's interesting about "California Proposition 65" is that it's actual title is the "California Safe Drinking Water Act". 😂

    • @samuelfellows6923
      @samuelfellows6923 Рік тому

      The Chineseum crap factory has copied it, and didn’t even know what it stood for 😠

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Рік тому

      Sounds like that side of things alright. Introduce a law, then apply it as broadly as possible or flat-out hide ridiculous crap in the bill that has nothing to do with the main subject

  • @2smoker64
    @2smoker64 Рік тому +2

    I recently purchased a 12v cigarette plug usb car charger with integrated "volt meter" on ebay only to descover the voltmeter was simply a dedicated 12.5 led display. Not volts mind you, just the number 12.5.

  • @skellious
    @skellious Рік тому +1

    It's like someone asked an GAN/AI art program to design an ioniser schematic. It looks plausible at first but once opened it all falls apart.

  • @TheUnknownCatWarrior
    @TheUnknownCatWarrior Рік тому +1

    They tried to give the impression that its a real ionizer. Clive should rebuild the scam ionizer without the useless parts into a working one and see how they could of done better.

  • @heateslier
    @heateslier Рік тому +2

    the electronics aside, it looks like they've used a decommissioned injection mold of a computer mouse to make the casing 😁

  • @reggiep75
    @reggiep75 Рік тому +3

    There's a dark art in making scammy products. Some of these products need a Big Clive rating 😂👍

  • @BjornV78
    @BjornV78 Рік тому +1

    The Zapper 3000, like seen on TV :-) The ideal christmas gift for your mother-in-law

  • @asteroidrules
    @asteroidrules Рік тому +2

    This is the type of thing that makes you wonder how deep the scam goes. Do the people who put this whole thing together know it doesn't do anything? Do the people who made and potted the useless module? Is it even a deliberate scam or just a chain of compounded incompetence?

    • @IanSlothieRolfe
      @IanSlothieRolfe Рік тому +2

      Its possible the people that assembled it bought fake modules and never bothered to test the ones supplied to the assemblers. Perhaps they even bought the PCB assembled and since the LEDs came on they assumed everything else was OK. When it comes down to it they only really care about getting the bits in the case and the product in the cardboard box for the guy selling it on.

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules Рік тому +1

      @@IanSlothieRolfe There's also a chance that the boards were reverse engineered from another product, and either the people doing that reverse engineering didn't understand what they were doing, or the soirce material itself was nonfunctional.

    • @IanSlothieRolfe
      @IanSlothieRolfe Рік тому

      @@asteroidrules True, but that sounds like unnecessary effort if you're just trying to make boxes for export :)

  • @Norman_Fleming
    @Norman_Fleming Рік тому

    When you work harder making a crap version than a real one would take. Excellent.

  • @InceRumul
    @InceRumul Рік тому

    Thank goodness for that Prop 65 warning. I'd hate to risk developing cancer during my electrocution.

  • @Aco747lyte
    @Aco747lyte Рік тому +8

    It makes me wonder what kind of people they are for making such a dangerous scam product. (I have a particularly nasty word for them). BIG thank you for Clive for warning us, plus his usual glee. See you later tonight, homies! Wendi

    • @jhoughjr1
      @jhoughjr1 Рік тому +3

      the ppl assembling them probably have no idea.

  • @ZephodBeeblebrox
    @ZephodBeeblebrox Рік тому

    I have a few things from eBay - usually neat little gizmos that are hard to find that fulfill a specific need that never worked. I'm not sure whether it's just not working for me or whether they're actually scam products.

  • @sonnylatchstring
    @sonnylatchstring Рік тому

    About you saying they mixed up Live and Neutral in the plug connection. Except maybe for the UK plug, but with using a Schuko or Euro plug we tend to do it all the time.

  • @georg2010cz
    @georg2010cz Рік тому

    5:57 ok they got me at this moment, I genuienly loled at this one 😂

  • @heyarno
    @heyarno Рік тому

    Reading the title I wondered if it's a typo on wire or if the schematic is worthy to be called dire.
    The product doesn't disappoint. It's worthy of the title.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Рік тому +2

      No typo. The schematic looks dire because it is so wrong in every way.

  • @Bareego
    @Bareego Рік тому +1

    Not even a capacitive dropper.... OMG.... just wow. Surely this is the king of suicidal death plugs

  • @BrianDickens4
    @BrianDickens4 Рік тому

    "...in which case, it's you who will be ionized"
    😆

  • @LTDunltd
    @LTDunltd Рік тому +2

    Reminds me of the, "This item is free. You just pay shipping and handling. "
    Item is made cheaper than what you pay.

  • @E-BikingAdventures
    @E-BikingAdventures Рік тому +1

    A 4558, some diodes and a nice case. You can make that into a classic Boss overdrive or Ibanez tube screamer.

  • @simonbeasley989
    @simonbeasley989 Рік тому +1

    That's unbelievable! The effort they went to!

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics Рік тому +2

    Yeah, the Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot ionizer. That's the worst case of bovine excrement I've ever seen!

  • @phydeux
    @phydeux Рік тому +2

    The irony of a California Prop 65 warning sticker on a 240V UK plugged item that couldn't be used in California if you wanted to.
    Hey Clive, when you see these truly dangerous items (plastered in regulatory stamps to boot!) do you ever report them to the authorities so they can maybe clamp down on them?

  • @simonmitchell34
    @simonmitchell34 Рік тому +3

    I guess the idea is that when you touch the ioniser and get a belt then it confirms it is doing something.

  • @henrybecker2842
    @henrybecker2842 Рік тому +2

    And on the back of the case there appear to be the safety standard logos?

  • @Ass_of_Amalek
    @Ass_of_Amalek Рік тому +1

    "it's you who will be ionised" xD

  • @MeriaDuck
    @MeriaDuck Рік тому +2

    Of all schematics shown here over the years, this must've been the most confusing one 🤔. The solder blob didn't help either.

  • @nigelman9506
    @nigelman9506 Рік тому

    And a big thank you, now i know what value resistors i need for running LEDs off the mains, question, do i need a reverse current protection diode across the LED ?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Рік тому +1

      I made a video just about running LEDs from the mains. The older reds and greens are more resilient to reverse voltage, but the new white, green and blue ones are easy to damage.

    • @nigelman9506
      @nigelman9506 Рік тому

      @@bigclivedotcom Thank you Clive, by the way, I'm a retired engineer of 41 years, last job, aerospace electronics engineer, if you need any help, just ask, but you are doing OK

  • @TopEndSpoonie
    @TopEndSpoonie Рік тому +4

    Holy shit, that is supremely bad.😳

  • @manslaughter3180
    @manslaughter3180 Рік тому

    That badly soldered resistor is causing me physical pain

  • @MrDeVooluff
    @MrDeVooluff Рік тому +2

    This reminds me of a Geoclense 'Home and Workplace Harmonizer' I had to buy for a client once... I'm pretty sure that was just a mains plug and potting, so at least it was safe (at ~$200AUD, safe for everything except the bank account). I've asked her to give it to me if it ever stops 'working' so I can investigate how it 'works'. :)

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, those things that filter dirty electricity are often just a resin block.

  • @Onio_Saiyan
    @Onio_Saiyan Місяць тому

    These quack products make me wonder if the company that made these has a quality control department manned by mannequins.

  • @Apfelvater
    @Apfelvater Рік тому

    How was i not yet subscribed to you? Youre quality.

  • @phil955i
    @phil955i Рік тому +2

    Not just Ebay, UA-cam & Facebook as well

  • @jamesrichardson1021
    @jamesrichardson1021 Рік тому

    Unbelievable Clive well found sir 👏

  • @EduardGabrielMunteanu
    @EduardGabrielMunteanu Рік тому

    It's also a fire hazard due to the grossly undersized wires coupled with a lack of fuse / reliable current limiting capabilities.

  • @TheSynrgy1987
    @TheSynrgy1987 Рік тому

    Maybe they have a scam product competition, whoever can make the best looking product that does absolutely nothing gets an award.