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Hi Allen , I am a tile, I am self employee , I have 20 years experience but as you know when we get bathroom job we need Plummer , some time very hard to fined Plumber I want to learn pluming job , maybe not to much just change sink ,toilet and bath . what should I do ? Than you.
Brilliant. you give so much back to the industry and you must spend countless hours doing these videos and the prep. I used to be a teacher and not only are you teaching, doing prep in your workshop but editing videos, giving your time to apprentices, doing your job... Don't know how you do it but its brilliant!
Hi Allen, I did a fast track course 8 years ago, it cost thousands. These course provider's don't tell there students that unless they have minimum of 2 _ 5 years experience, your not going get a job. I contacted many local plumbing companies offer my services for free, but most aren't interested in helping you get experience. You have gain experience yourself buying doing jobs, for family and friends 1st. Anyway Allen, a followed up would be great, I think there must many plumber's out there, in that situation and need help to move forward, but don't where too turn. Looking forward to seeing the next video.👊⭐
Great vid allen ....best plumbing and heating site on you tube without a doubt ....35 years in the trade ...still learning everyday ....youngsters I've worked with always late for work and always on their bloody phones ...and they know it all .....have also worked with lads who are spot on and willing to listen and learn
I gained my level 2 plumbing NVQ in 1999 but then lost my apprenticeship. Which meant I couldn't continue and gain the level 3 NVQ/ Gas qualifications. So I stepped away from the trade altogether until 2016 when I was in a position to get back into the trade and I am now a fully qualified level 3 NVQ/ Gas engineer. Since December 2019 at the age of 37.
This is a really helpful perspective. I'm 31 and on the verge of switching careers - the thought of staring at a screen for the rest of my life is starting to look like a bloody terrible idea, but don't know where to start. Glad I found your channel!
You're not the only one. I'm nearly 40 and have been in a corporate office world for 14 years - I'm fed up of pushing pixels for overdemanding managers and clicking send on emails. At the same time my industry in changing and I fear for the next 5-10 years in terms of my skills becoming obsolete. I want to do something more real that will actually help people rather than make someone else money.
@@SpaceshipRocketFuel I'm here for the same reasons. Looking at entering into Gas Engineer career. Here to find out more as well. Nice to meet you guys and Allen as well!
Informative video 👍 im 43 an fed up of driving artics, in traffic most the time so its not really driving at all 😩. I moved house and helped decommission an old system an run a full new central heating system back in. Enjoyed doing it i then took the city an guilds level 2 6035 diploma course and completed that. I have done a few basic jobs since, there is so much to learn, which i want to do, no one will take me. I have even offered free labour several times so i can complete my NVQ 2. I have come this far i cant give up, im not sure what to try next but hopefully will figure it out. I have liked an subscribed, will be watching your other videos and the ones you recommended. Thanks 👍
@@AllenHart999 since this comment i done some voluntary, got a bit of regular work, now have completed all tasks on the 6189, assessment completed, just have to finish off the portfolio, un a much better place now and gained more knowledge 👍
When I started my fast track course over a 1 year period I got job smart metering then worked my way into service and breakdowns. today im diving into boiler installs with bit training . ive just passed my reassessment acs . It would not been possible without amazing you tube teachers like Allen Hart, pb plumbers tom plum john wilson. to name a few. the video advice got me where i am today a special thank you. And for the newbies starting out re watch as much lessons as i did. respect.
40 years in the Trade for me Alan, another 5 and that's me done. Certainly has changed, not always for the better. Some people come into the trade and think it's a licence to print money, you see them come and go, you never finish learning, wish I could start all over again but with the knowledge I have now ha ha. Another good video👍
Im 26, currently a time served welder, hate it, hate being stuck in a factory or a yard all day, I like freedom, out and about working in domestic properties with everyday being a new & different day. I'm currently in the process of starting a plumbing & heating apprenticeship I'll be 31 by the time im qualified again, but I think its worth it for me. I can't wait.
The best Plumbing/Heating/Electric Professional I know ( he’s got every qualification and does the whole job including joinery and plastering if needed ) stopped taking on apprentices when he realised they just weren’t focused on what he was telling them . As soon as they thought he wasn’t looking they were straight on their phones doing social media and dating apps. If I was taking on an apprentice they would have to leave mobile phones at home. I’ve suggested he creates a firm where he employs people and has say 10 jobs on the go at once. His role would be to go out initially and diagnose correctly which is the greatest skill and quote a price then go round from one job to the next spending 10 mins at each one to make sure his guys are doing it properly. He would be a rich man but he’s old school and wants to do it all himself . That’s all well and good but he’s still working with health problems instead of living in a villa on the Costa Del sol.
I start a Bpec gas foundation course in September which lasts 34 weeks through the college and the course also puts you out with a gas engineer 2 days a week. Then I will start my own business.
Hi Alan. I did the fast track multi skilled gas engineers course when I retrained to become a corgi registered gas engineer which I was for all of 7 months before gas safe took over. I had to go straight from training to becoming self employed and I felt that the training was just no where near enough. I've been in business now going on 13 years, there has been a lot of ups and downs and you learn everyday on the job and I try to strive to be better and to give my customers the best work I can. Great vid 👌 keep um coming. Phill. From Broad Plumbing.
Great video ,only thing I would add is you need to be confident in your abilities and focused and prepared to spend a little extra time making sure that when you leave a customer house they will remain dry and above all safe , This is a rewarding occupation aim for high standards, cheers Alan
I served my time the only way the old fashioned way.And still learning ! Now 43 years old, self employed and have gained lots of useful knowledge from UA-cam🤓 patitculy this channel thanks AH👨🔧
Your videos are brilliant. Keep them coming. I particularly liked your video explaining all the different heating systems. You have a really good way of explaining things. I am currently doing a fast track plumbing course so I can do my own plumbing. I am a joiner to trade and I have really enjoyed the soldering and pipe bending so far. Looking forward to doing the more advanced stuff like heating systems etc.
Another good video Allen . I would like advice on a job I was asked to do only yesterday. Customer has sold the house and the estate agent has asked for the boiler to be serviced before the hand over. It is a Baxi duo-etc 28 he. Installed 2008. Worked fine all those years.One of Baxi’s best in my opinion.20 Mbar.gas at the meter 16 Mbar at the appliance. Flue runs down from boiler instead of back. Condensate drain is like an overflow pipe that just runs at high level in to the back yard. P/ relief terminal was flattened at the end ( they must have thought that was the best way to stop it dripping😳) no fuse spur near the boiler. Wired direct in to up stairs ring main. Incorrect cables in to boiler. Not multi core heat resistant flex.I started servicing the boiler before I noticed all the installation defects. I have now caused all sorts of problems by writing on a report all the above issues. I am writing to ask what you would do in this situation. ( new boiler installed correctly ) my advice but it’s not what they want to hear. Estate agents are now asking for all boilers to be serviced before the sale transfer are they trying to pull a fast one.
Did a three year apprenticeship in 90,we was the first group to go through NVQ as C&G was out dated for level 3 Gas Engineering. The Gas Engineers used to laugh at us saying we would know F all at the end of three years.....😂. Yep they was right.
Brilliant advice! I thought that I would enjoy being a network engineer after years in the offices. I hated and loathed it in reality! I had always done DIY such as kitchen fits and general house repairs so figured I would be OK. The day to day life of ladders and cold UK weather meant it was miserable. So yes try before you commit always.
So I’m 29 I originally trained as a manager to a Costa coffee, then when covid hit I was made redundant. My career took a turn and in became a courier, it was only suppose to be until the pandemic passed. 3 and a half years late I’ve taken a sabbatical from work. My friend is a plumber and I did some work with him on Saturday just gone on a new build site. Now I’m just trying to find some sort of starting point, I feel a bit silly looking at the apprenticeship route being 29 but I also feel it will be the most beneficial
So I was lucky enough to have trained with the local gas board to city and guilds 2 years and an intermediate qualification got you your bag of tools,we used to walk and catch the bus!.More apprentices than fitters in the depot .The nationalised industries were great for training people , moved on to contracting with the privatised gas board and then working for a housing management company untill I called it a day .You are spot on when you said you never stop learning ,I never did ! However it is true that a high percentage of gas fitters are coming close to retirment .so I am quite surprised so few jobs going .
I really wanted to retrain as a gas engineer to repair boilers, was thinking of doing it as self-employed, working evenings and weekends. But don't see how I could get experience once I finish the course.
B B this is misinformation, 23 million homes in the UK are powered by gas fired boilers, the ban only applies to new builds in 2025, clean electricity isn’t a viable replacement for gas heating, installation and servicing of gas boilers will still be an industry for decades
I’m doing a plumbing apprenticeship through my local council. Most plumbing apprenticeships now are 4 year fully served apprenticeships, specialising in environmental technologies and not gas. I earn nearly 21k per year because the council is a living wage employer most others on my course earn a lot less. Hope this helps anyone thinking about doing plumbing 👍🏼
@@nunny671 i worked for a company as a skilled labourer for a year and a half then asked if they could put me through it mate. Get your feet in the door to somewhere and ask the question good luck mate 👍🏼
I was a house basher [gas engineer] for about 15 years. What I don’t like about these clips is no one tells you is the toll the job takes on your body. I had to retire in 2015 due to health issues, I am now 66 and not one part of my body doesn’t hurt. My hands are permanently clawed and even my eye lids hurt, it is grueling. I started in about 1998 so the internet was in its infancy then, today, most gas engineers would struggle without a tablet/I pad etc. P/S…I had to stop praying cos I can’t kneel down anymore 😂😂😂
I work as a planner for a well known fuel supplier. New gas supply installations is at an all time low for us, and we are seeing more customers asking for their gas supplies to be terminated in a bid to save money. Some of my team have already been moved over to the electricity wing. We all knew the gas revolution was coming, but the fuel price hikes have really made people more aware and has really pushed things along from what I am starting to see. I wouldn't be surprised to see government bring the 2035 deadline forward another 5 years.
Nice vid Al. My 1st year level 2 was cut off due to the lock down. Before the lock down mess i was send c. V's out left right and centre. There are very few jobs out there for now and maybe for some time to come. £2300 for level 2 plus £1200 for NVQ assessments. If companies are not recruiting where is the new trades people going to come from??? Supposedly you can't get a good plumber for love or money. I WANT A JOB 🙏🙏🙏
Hi Allen, I took the plunge and did both routes into the industry, the latter was with BG. In my experience : avoid the fast track, I'd happily talk to you about each. And I'd also love to do some work along side you to learn.
I went straight for my level 2 with plumbing I wound say I would of been better off doing my level 1 because level one gets you the practice you need to get used to your pipe bending
I'v got my ACS Gas qualifications (fast track course) just waiting to do the gas safe (very first) assessment, assuming I pass, it's very unlikely I will get an apprenticeship anywhere (it was hard enough getting help from anyone just to do my portfolio, begging so many people), I've got 99% of the tools needed for plumber/gas engineer (couldn't afford a van I have a car, ) I feel like after passing the gas safe assessment I will have no choice but to go it alone (I'm ok at soldering), I don't know F-all about boiler faults/repairs yet, hopefully I should get the hand of this if I watch enough youtube videos plus I've heard there's a few boiler fault finding courses probably will do one of those, there's also a guy on youtube (for a fee) he takes you out with him and show you the most common faults/repairs on boilers, (I've also got a bit of confidence problem as well), any advice on should I go it alone or hold out and try to find some plumber who will take me on (this may take years, it may never happen, 1 year's already been wasted due to pandemic), MY APOLOGY IN ADVANCE YOU PROBERY GET QUESTIONS LIKE IN ALL DAY LONG.
I have an engineering background and have held a ccn1 certificate over fifteen years ago but for reasons didn't continue with domestic gas . I have a lot of building experience but now have decided that I want to get into gas /plumbing and my local college has made this possible through free intermediate qualifications however the years have caught up with me . I am now 48 yrs old , my question is am I too old ?
I am doing my gas portfolio and the trust was lost with my engineer, He still has to sign off jobs. But his questions about if im seeing anyone or sitting outside my house asking if i will invite him round., Just put me in a situation that Ii cant work with him. I still have 3 boiler installs and I cant bring myself to work with him. I felt embarassed and its hard to complete my potfolio with covid. It knocked me back. All I want is to learn from an Engineer that doesnt just see an opportunity to put inappropriate questions to me about my life. Ive work in other trades so im not niave. But women are put through this and we have to except it. I just thought I would share this with you. As it made me feel like entrapment. At some point I have to speak with him to sign off my work. It is stressing, to the point can sleep as Monday draws closer.
I was a plumber in Africa and now am in uk and I won’t to work as plumber in uk to but I don’t won’t to go to college and my problem is that the system that we follow to do our plumb in Africa is different from the system in uk and I don’t know what to do
Amazing video good insight and things to think about. I’ll be leaving the forces next year. I definitely want to be a plumber but I’m still trying to decide how to become one. Around my family and what courses to do, while still trying to keep a roof on our heads. Any ex forces out there had the same problems I am going to face ?
Total agree with you. Experience is time, I did 23yr army and then did the ACS gas course. Struggle putting all the difference aspects of the ACS case into the bigger picture but work with a experience gas guy brought it together. I learnt more with that guy on the tools than any training cse I have done. You can’t become a pornstar without practising 😂 all I can say to any young guys confidence is everything 👍🏻
@@AllenHart999 all’s good with a lot of practices, I’m not doing any installs or big jobs just servicing, breakdowns and landlords for a big southern housing company. But a big thanks to your self, PB and tomcat for the quality vids that help 👍🏻
My comments were my realistic experience as to finding a job in the plumbing industry. Be positive and persistent 💪💪💪 the virus shit has made life even harder 🙄🙄🙄🙁🙁🙁 stay safe from corona virus everyone
@@AllenHart999 i don't wish to be a doom and gloom merchant Al but I Instagram with lots of Plumbers and plumbing forums and for now there is nobody looking to employ mates or apprentices. I live in a London Borough and have emailed companies big and small so far no success. I think it will be a stroke of luck to find a job. Stay motivated and be lucky 🙏🙏🙏🙏 i like your enthusiasm Al 👍👍👍
@@paul_my_plumbs_uk Unfortunately there is no incentive whatsoever for the one man band to take on an apprentice. Its all hassle and cost, and yet they are the very people the government should be encouraging to take on a youngster. Its all geared to bigger companies and always has been.
@@timhancock6626 the big boys are not recruiting either 😕😕😕 when this country has a skills shortage of trades people maybe the government will wake up and realise that they have invested fuck all in training future skilled workers by then it will be too late to play catch up
Thanks for the video! Im 35 and have completed apprenticeship, school, and have a license in Indiana over in the states. My family and I are moving to the UK next year in May, and was wondering if you could give me more insights on good companies to work for, as well as what kind of weight my experience will carry across the pond. Should I start looking into these courses you recommended now, or wait till I find an employer? We are using and immigration consultant to assist us in finding work, but I want real opinions on companies from real plumbers. Thanks again!
Hi Allen great video as usual, I am a 3rd year apprentice gas engineer for a housing company with over 30,000 homes and would love to work with you on a empty property and do a full heating install and show the importance of flushing and protecting the system, only Manchester based so not too far from you, thanks again.
I'm in my second year of gas engineering and its really hard and getting to me. Im not smart and i hate studying and i dont know if i can do it. My Mum and Dad keep telling me i can but theyre only telling me that because theyre my parents, but i genuinely dont think i can do it. Im 26 and time is running out for a job and i dont know what to do. Im in a really scary place in my life right now.
Hi there, I did my training while doing work experience on building sites and helping my uncle, cousin and friends who are or were plumbers when I was younger but I didn't get any qualifications. All my training was very hands on, they taught me the basics such as cutting the pipework, bending and soldering, and I have done a few small jobs, mainly replacing sink and bath traps, emergency work including repairs to burst pipes and repairing or replacing toilet and tank ballvalves etc. My biggest test of my experience as a plumber was replacing a full bathroom suite and it took a long time to do because I wanted to make sure everything was done properly and there was no leaks but the only thing that really pissed me off is that the person who lived there kept running to the toilet every five minutes which delayed the job and I couldn't get anything done. There were no problems with the job until I turned the water back on and it started making a loud noise, I checked everything until I got to the main stopcock and lo and behold, there was a big kink in the service pipe, so I had to repair it and it was an absolute bastard to do (sorry for swearing), the repair to that piece of pipe took me hours to do. The main stopcock caused me a hell of a lot of problems, but I persevered and kept at it and it was repaired, thank goodness. I was absolutely knackered afterwards. I wouldn't want to go through the pain of replacing the main stopcock again. I am thinking of starting my own business as Arrow Emergency Plumbing Repairs and I would like some advice on how to do it.
Hi Allen thank you for you content I’ve got a question if you don’t mind. I’ve completed my level 2 and I’m unsure wether to proceed to level 3 or my level 2 nvq instead? If I do my nvq do I need to quit my job (not plumbing related) and find one as an apprentice or could I do both simultaneously? So many people tell me level 3 is unnecessary unless you want to proceed into management. Please if you or anyone else could advise me on this. Thank you!
You should 100% become a Gas Engineer but after 2 or 3 years working for the most busy firm that you can find, that work on all makes and models of boiler either domestic, commercial or both, whatever you choose to do. Working for a company is crappy money, they are all thieving you know what's and keep most of YOUR hard earned cash. Remember you are the one that is on the job and out there. You literally do ALL of the work. One thing that you don't do though is the admin. Admin, you will have to get used to doing over the 3 years you are learning the trade inside out working for a company like British Gas. You want a company that actually repair boilers and don't cut corners and put customers at risk and pressure you to do the same to tick off the job. BSW do this. As do many council housing and housing associations Gas companies. After the 3 years work for yourself and you will do the best in that trade. Take it from 20 years exp.
Fantastic video mate so much detail and useful information. At 31 aftet 9 years of working for the NHS i am thinking about retraining to become a tiler boiler engineer or plumber.
Thanks for this video. I'm a 37 year old looking to retrain to get away from a desk job. I'm going for evening classes at college to do level 2 City and guilds in plumbing. Then hoping to find a job and continue training. My question would be as an older guy would I get a job with just a level 2 City and guilds?
Would you recommend just ringing up loads of plumbers to try and get an apprenticeship I'm doing a plumbing course at college but I don't think I'm learning because it isn't enough time working. Cheers mate appreciate the channel!
Good evening Allen,I really appreciate your time to explain in detail to know the right steps to take.I want to learn a plumber,I have a passion for the job.can you put me through on this.am awaiting your response.I am EBENEZER
I'm a 33 year old and looking to change careers. I live in the west Midlands area and am currently working within the NHS. Due to what I have seen during the last year and with the lack of respect the government is showing to us that work within the NHS, I have had enough and need a change. I want to be in a career that I feel valued for what I give. My biggest problem is I can't just leave work though and go to college due to having a mortgage, so think that an apprenticeship is the best way forward for me. So a couple of questions. Would you recommend I do an "introduction to plumbing course" before trying to get an apprenticeship? I have no experience within plumbing. Where is the best place to find an apprenticeship? Is a plumber mate secure income and regular hours? How much would a plumber mate likely be payed (I need to see that I would be earning roughly the same as I would within my current job). Thank you so much Allen for sharing your knowledge about your trade! I have learned more watching these videos that all the research I have currently read up on 🙂.
Think you might be a bit old to do a apprenticeship a plumbers mate would be on around 100_ 200 pound a week but have known people to get 45 pound a week 😉
Hi Allen, im 29 years old. I passed level 2 plumbing (non nvq) back in 2012 at college. I never found work in the industry until the last year ive decided its something I want to do. Ive managed to arrange working with a plumbing/ gas engineer luckily & get paid at the same time as well as learning. Would you suggest i do a course also or not? Any other advice mate?
At 43 I’m too old financially to do an apprenticeship, and don’t have four years to invest in training. I get fast courses may not be the answer, what is the best way to get qualified as a plumber with a view to going self employed?
I’m just about to start a gas engineering apprenticeship with a national company. What would you say the benefits and negatives are from working for a large company compared to smaller company and also compared to going the self employed route.
Hi Allen, Great video! I went to college and got a city&guilds qualification in plumbing that has now expired as our college teacher told us we had a 1/10 chance to be recruited and honestly I feel he was right. I am really interested in starting again now times have changed. But I have found lot of titles given to the roles such as apprentice, trainee, junior or plumbers mate. Do you have any more videos or advice about where I could start or about these different job titles?
I'm a water treatment engineer and wanted to get into Central heating, phoned around and it seems the courses are 6-8k and run full time for 25 or 26k weeks. You would need to be financially secure for that amount of time as you wouldn't be working during the day. I then phoned around local gas fitter companies and even those smart meter companies and not a single one would take anyone on without experience so I personally would uave to build my experience for probably working for free for god knows how longnand again would need finance's to cover this amount of time. I also read stories about people who have had a fast track course and got all the qualifications and tried to do it self employed only to go to thier first job and its its been a absolute disaster. The the only people iv seen that take on new starts are that company "AO" that sell white goods and appliances but they reviews are 99% lugging a cooker up 20 flights of stairs and then 1% installing a gas cooker lol I even thought about retraining as a carpet fitter, phoned about 20 people, only 1 guy got back to me and asked what I'm doing now and why I would want to be a carpet fitter, told him I wanted a different industry and then he asked me age, told him in 36 and the cunt slammed the phone down LOL.
Hi Allan I'm 32 I have my level 1 and 2 plumbing Diploma over a year ago and I'm finding it hard to get work to get the experience to do the level 2 nvq. I've offered to work the free just to get the experience but no one seems to be willing to help.
Hi Allen I did a c&g apprenticeship in the early 90s and only done bits of plumbing over the last 20 years as I do maintenance as my job now have u got any tips to get me into full time plumbing again as I think I’ve lost my confidence in doing the job and a lot of knowledge over the years 👍
Best thing I find is to do the Saturday job self employed. Take on a skill builder every two weeks, build up your skills as well are looking at the UA-cam. That will give you the confidence.
I’ve got 15 years experience designing/installing/maintaining complex control systems in the oil, gas, chemical and power industries. I’ve got qualifications to install pipework the operates at over 1000 bar, I’ve got dozens of safety qualifications. I work with equipment such as gas turbines, compressors and control systems for some of the worlds biggest companies. I’ve got a degree in control engineering and could quite legally get a job working for Baxi etc designing boilers. Yet when want to obtain gassafe status nothing is recognised and you’re treated exactly the same as Dave who was putting lids on jam jars or bob who worked at Argos last week. Yet in industry I’ve worked with plenty of domestic plumbers. They are simply given a trade test to demonstrate competence.
Allen Hart It’s been a good life but it’s a lot of working away. I’d also like to use the money I earn to start a small heating/construction firm so my son has a job should he need one.
Allen Hart domestic boilers aren’t that much different controls wise to industrial calorifiers or gas turbines. They just have less health mentoring/safety stuff. I’m going through the gas path way thing for new entrants and putting another guy through it too. It just seems like a way to extract cash rather than a real effort to produce competent people.
Hi Allen I'm thinking of changing careers i have watched lots of videos including yours. I have had some diy experience and enjoyed doing what i have, my question is I'm 55 would it still be possible to take this up as a career.
@@AllenHart999 cheers mate,I was thinking about installing a prv just above the mains coming in,but could cause problems being on shared supply. Cheers anyway
Hi Allen would a good starting point be to do the nvq 2 diploma? I am changing jobs and want to start out training while I still work at my current job. Thanks Darren
Serious question.... I have thought about becoming a plumber in the past and always talked out of it by people saying I am too tall.... Would you say I will struggle being 6 foot 5 ????
hi allen I’m 21 with no plumbing experience, I’m looking to work with a plumber for experience for 6 months and then fast track level 2 diploma and nvq, then not sure what to do after
Morning Alan great video, I did a fast track training for level two C/G with able skills everything you said was right I’m at a cross road now because I’ve just been doing plumbing work (bathroom/kitchens) I’m now thinking do I do the gas training?? But I know I will have to work with someone to get experience ?? Which isn’t easy because a lot of guys don’t want to train you ?? Many thanks Alan love your channel Ahmet AJ
Hi Ahmet, hope you are well. Are able skills any good? I am on a cross road following the pandemic and in a situation whereby I need to find a new career path and it would be great to understand how your training went? Did it live up to your expectations? Confidence only grows with experience but did you feel competent after the training? - Sorry to the questions just have to be sure. TS
@@muhammadabbasi9128 I didn’t see a question from Ahmet, Also I get around 500 messages or more every day, I try my best to reply to as many as possible.
Hey there I’m a 15 year old and I’m starting an engineering apprenticeship after the summer.and i want to do electrical as I do physics and I’m wondering did you do anything to do any electrical stuff if so what did you do and was it similar to being a gas engineer thanks👍
I’ve got my Level 2 City and Guilds Diploma in Plumbing but i’m not sure where i should go from there? I’ve been applying for several apprenticeships but not succeeded in one.
Hi Allen I am looking to start a level 2 city and guilds at college would this be a good course for me to get into the industry or should I keep looking for a hard to come by apprenticeship? Thanks for your expert advice.
What about courses that last about 6 months but offer some sort of kick starter program at the end? I’ve seen one that offers 1st year technical support and a couple of paid jobs a month for a fee
Hi Allen I’m currently studying level 3 plumbing at collage for a level 3 diploma, due to COVID and lack of being in collage I don’t believe I’m going to pass, what would u recommend next? ThankYou
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Hi Allen , I am a tile, I am self employee , I have 20 years experience but as you know when we get bathroom job we need Plummer , some time very hard to fined Plumber I want to learn pluming job , maybe not to much just change sink ,toilet and bath . what should I do ? Than you.
You're very good guy God bless you and your family 👊👊
Thank you so much.
Brilliant. you give so much back to the industry and you must spend countless hours doing these videos and the prep. I used to be a teacher and not only are you teaching, doing prep in your workshop but editing videos, giving your time to apprentices, doing your job... Don't know how you do it but its brilliant!
Thank You.
56 years old and retraining as a plumber, thanks for the help 👍
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kindly please advise your way to be a plumber, thx
Looking to do the same fella
Hi Allen, I did a fast track course 8 years ago, it cost thousands. These course provider's don't tell there students that unless they have minimum of 2 _ 5 years experience, your not going get a job. I contacted many local plumbing companies offer my services for free, but most aren't interested in helping you get experience. You have gain experience yourself buying doing jobs, for family and friends 1st. Anyway Allen, a followed up would be great, I think there must many plumber's out there, in that situation and need help to move forward, but don't where too turn. Looking forward to seeing the next video.👊⭐
Can you tell me please what fast track course did you do?
Are they still running?
It's a little bit different at the moment as BG are actually taking on newly qualified gas engineers. Thanks.
Great vid allen ....best plumbing and heating site on you tube without a doubt ....35 years in the trade ...still learning everyday ....youngsters I've worked with always late for work and always on their bloody phones ...and they know it all .....have also worked with lads who are spot on and willing to listen and learn
carrie sparks Thank you very much ❤️
I gained my level 2 plumbing NVQ in 1999 but then lost my apprenticeship. Which meant I couldn't continue and gain the level 3 NVQ/ Gas qualifications. So I stepped away from the trade altogether until 2016 when I was in a position to get back into the trade and I am now a fully qualified level 3 NVQ/ Gas engineer. Since December 2019 at the age of 37.
good luck.
How did you get back into the trade did you have to pay for a 6-8 month course ?
This is a really helpful perspective. I'm 31 and on the verge of switching careers - the thought of staring at a screen for the rest of my life is starting to look like a bloody terrible idea, but don't know where to start. Glad I found your channel!
Hi Duodecimal Bear. Good luck and if you need anything just ask. Thanks.
You're not the only one. I'm nearly 40 and have been in a corporate office world for 14 years - I'm fed up of pushing pixels for overdemanding managers and clicking send on emails. At the same time my industry in changing and I fear for the next 5-10 years in terms of my skills becoming obsolete.
I want to do something more real that will actually help people rather than make someone else money.
@@SpaceshipRocketFuel I'm here for the same reasons. Looking at entering into Gas Engineer career. Here to find out more as well. Nice to meet you guys and Allen as well!
@coachgordonso how did you get on are you still training?
how did you get on? in the same boat, 5 years older...
I did a four week intensive C & G plumbing course 15 years ago, it was ok but it just gives you the basics.
4 weeks? Really. Never heard of a 4-week course before. Thanks.
Informative video 👍 im 43 an fed up of driving artics, in traffic most the time so its not really driving at all 😩. I moved house and helped decommission an old system an run a full new central heating system back in. Enjoyed doing it i then took the city an guilds level 2 6035 diploma course and completed that. I have done a few basic jobs since, there is so much to learn, which i want to do, no one will take me. I have even offered free labour several times so i can complete my NVQ 2. I have come this far i cant give up, im not sure what to try next but hopefully will figure it out. I have liked an subscribed, will be watching your other videos and the ones you recommended. Thanks 👍
Good luck.
@@AllenHart999 since this comment i done some voluntary, got a bit of regular work, now have completed all tasks on the 6189, assessment completed, just have to finish off the portfolio, un a much better place now and gained more knowledge 👍
@@hunkydoryangling8200love this -
When I started my fast track course over a 1 year period I got job smart metering then worked my way into service and breakdowns.
today im diving into boiler installs with bit training . ive just passed my reassessment acs .
It would not been possible without amazing you tube teachers like Allen Hart, pb plumbers tom plum john wilson. to name a few. the video advice got me where i am today a special thank you.
And for the newbies starting out re watch as much lessons as i did. respect.
Thank You
Looks like it the fast track course worked out for you!
Hi David, what training agency did you complete your course with? Thanks
@@rowlandobiora7105 brookhouse traing centre
40 years in the Trade for me Alan, another 5 and that's me done.
Certainly has changed, not always for the better.
Some people come into the trade and think it's a licence to print money, you see them come and go, you never finish learning, wish I could start all over again but with the knowledge I have now ha ha.
Another good video👍
Mark Cliff Hi Mark, Thank you so much, I would retire tomorrow if I could afford it😂😂😂
Same here pal,but with three daughters not much chance in the near future 😭😭😉😉
Im 26, currently a time served welder, hate it, hate being stuck in a factory or a yard all day, I like freedom, out and about working in domestic properties with everyday being a new & different day. I'm currently in the process of starting a plumbing & heating apprenticeship I'll be 31 by the time im qualified again, but I think its worth it for me. I can't wait.
Where are you training at? Good luck.
Absolute Legend. Well respected in the plumbing world. Well done Alan
The best Plumbing/Heating/Electric Professional I know ( he’s got every qualification and does the whole job including joinery and plastering if needed ) stopped taking on apprentices when he realised they just weren’t focused on what he was telling them . As soon as they thought he wasn’t looking they were straight on their phones doing social media and dating apps. If I was taking on an apprentice they would have to leave mobile phones at home.
I’ve suggested he creates a firm where he employs people and has say 10 jobs on the go at once. His role would be to go out initially and diagnose correctly which is the greatest skill and quote a price then go round from one job to the next spending 10 mins at each one to make sure his guys are doing it properly. He would be a rich man but he’s old school and wants to do it all himself . That’s all well and good but he’s still working with health problems instead of living in a villa on the Costa Del sol.
Jack of all trades?
Tell me his name. I'll work for him. I'll leave me phone where ever her wants. ;-)
I start a Bpec gas foundation course in September which lasts 34 weeks through the college and the course also puts you out with a gas engineer 2 days a week. Then I will start my own business.
Good luck with it Daniel.
@@AllenHart999 thanks Allen, would you be able to help me with a price list as there seems to be a wide range lol?
Hi Alan.
I did the fast track multi skilled gas engineers course when I retrained to become a corgi registered gas engineer which I was for all of 7 months before gas safe took over. I had to go straight from training to becoming self employed and I felt that the training was just no where near enough. I've been in business now going on 13 years, there has been a lot of ups and downs and you learn everyday on the job and I try to strive to be better and to give my customers the best work I can.
Great vid 👌 keep um coming.
Phill. From Broad Plumbing.
Thank You.
Great video ,only thing I would add is you need to be confident in your abilities and focused and prepared to spend a little extra time making sure that when you leave a customer house they will remain dry and above all safe , This is a rewarding occupation aim for high standards, cheers Alan
Hi Frank. Thank you very much for all your continued support.
I served my time the only way the old fashioned way.And still learning ! Now 43 years old, self employed and have gained lots of useful knowledge from UA-cam🤓 patitculy this channel thanks AH👨🔧
Hi Chris. Do you have the bad knees and back yet? 😂😂😂 Thank you so much for watching.
@@AllenHart999 1 bad knee😫 backs holding up 😂 I try to avoid second fixing sinks👨🔧
Your videos are brilliant. Keep them coming. I particularly liked your video explaining all the different heating systems. You have a really good way of explaining things.
I am currently doing a fast track plumbing course so I can do my own plumbing. I am a joiner to trade and I have really enjoyed the soldering and pipe bending so far. Looking forward to doing the more advanced stuff like heating systems etc.
Did you pass your course? Who did you do it with?
Another good video Allen . I would like advice on a job I was asked to do only yesterday. Customer has sold the house and the estate agent has asked for the boiler to be serviced before the hand over. It is a Baxi duo-etc 28 he. Installed 2008. Worked fine all those years.One of Baxi’s best in my opinion.20 Mbar.gas at the meter 16 Mbar at the appliance. Flue runs down from boiler instead of back. Condensate drain is like an overflow pipe that just runs at high level in to the back yard. P/ relief terminal was flattened at the end ( they must have thought that was the best way to stop it dripping😳) no fuse spur near the boiler. Wired direct in to up stairs ring main. Incorrect cables in to boiler. Not multi core heat resistant flex.I started servicing the boiler before I noticed all the installation defects. I have now caused all sorts of problems by writing on a report all the above issues. I am writing to ask what you would do in this situation. ( new boiler installed correctly ) my advice but it’s not what they want to hear. Estate agents are now asking for all boilers to be serviced before the sale transfer are they trying to pull a fast one.
Hi Shaun. Sorry i missed this. If you still need advice give me a call. Thanks.
Another great video Alan, I’m watching your videos to help me through my fast track gas course starting end of July
Best of luck!
Warren did you end up going through the course?
@@Brad-zt6iq yes i did. i passed my ACS last week.
@@warrenfegan8872 nice
@@warrenfegan8872 well done. How did you do after with finding a job ?
Did a three year apprenticeship in 90,we was the first group to go through NVQ as C&G was out dated for level 3 Gas Engineering.
The Gas Engineers used to laugh at us saying we would know F all at the end of three years.....😂. Yep they was right.
Darth Fader I was one of the last to do C&G 😂 longtime ago now. 😂
Brilliant advice! I thought that I would enjoy being a network engineer after years in the offices. I hated and loathed it in reality! I had always done DIY such as kitchen fits and general house repairs so figured I would be OK. The day to day life of ladders and cold UK weather meant it was miserable. So yes try before you commit always.
Thanks.
So I’m 29 I originally trained as a manager to a Costa coffee, then when covid hit I was made redundant. My career took a turn and in became a courier, it was only suppose to be until the pandemic passed. 3 and a half years late I’ve taken a sabbatical from work. My friend is a plumber and I did some work with him on Saturday just gone on a new build site. Now I’m just trying to find some sort of starting point, I feel a bit silly looking at the apprenticeship route being 29 but I also feel it will be the most beneficial
Maybe a gas course would suit you?
So I was lucky enough to have trained with the local gas board to city and guilds 2 years and an intermediate qualification got you your bag of tools,we used to walk and catch the bus!.More apprentices than fitters in the depot .The nationalised industries were great for training people , moved on to contracting with the privatised gas board and then working for a housing management company untill I called it a day .You are spot on when you said you never stop learning ,I never did ! However it is true that a high percentage of gas fitters are coming close to retirment .so I am quite surprised so few jobs going .
john Boy I know loads of experienced guys with little to no work, It’s not easy to run a business these days. Thanks 🙏
I really wanted to retrain as a gas engineer to repair boilers, was thinking of doing it as self-employed, working evenings and weekends. But don't see how I could get experience once I finish the course.
Gas boilers are being phased out by the government because of greenhouse gas quotas. They will be gone very shortly.
B B this is misinformation, 23 million homes in the UK are powered by gas fired boilers, the ban only applies to new builds in 2025, clean electricity isn’t a viable replacement for gas heating, installation and servicing of gas boilers will still be an industry for decades
@@brendangray www.logic4training.co.uk/blog/heating/gas-engineers-in-demand-now-and-in-the-future/
How did you get on Tim?
I’m doing a plumbing apprenticeship through my local council. Most plumbing apprenticeships now are 4 year fully served apprenticeships, specialising in environmental technologies and not gas.
I earn nearly 21k per year because the council is a living wage employer most others on my course earn a lot less.
Hope this helps anyone thinking about doing plumbing 👍🏼
Thank you for taking the time to watch my video.
Startin a adult apprenticeship next year. Been watching your videos just soaking as much as possible in. Thanks mate 👍🏼
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What company are you starting with?
Good luck.
Congrats! Just wondering how you managed to get an adult apprenticeship, were you looking on Gov website or local job sites? Thanks
@@nunny671 i worked for a company as a skilled labourer for a year and a half then asked if they could put me through it mate. Get your feet in the door to somewhere and ask the question good luck mate 👍🏼
I was a house basher [gas engineer] for about 15 years. What I don’t like about these clips is no one tells you is the toll the job takes on your body. I had to retire in 2015 due to health issues, I am now 66 and not one part of my body doesn’t hurt. My hands are permanently clawed and even my eye lids hurt, it is grueling. I started in about 1998 so the internet was in its infancy then, today, most gas engineers would struggle without a tablet/I pad etc. P/S…I had to stop praying cos I can’t kneel down anymore 😂😂😂
I work as a planner for a well known fuel supplier. New gas supply installations is at an all time low for us, and we are seeing more customers asking for their gas supplies to be terminated in a bid to save money. Some of my team have already been moved over to the electricity wing.
We all knew the gas revolution was coming, but the fuel price hikes have really made people more aware and has really pushed things along from what I am starting to see. I wouldn't be surprised to see government bring the 2035 deadline forward another 5 years.
Once you train as a gas engineer you can also move into renewable technologies. Thanks.
am doing my domestic gas now and it's hard work trying to find anyone that will train you
Good luck. Who are you training with?
Nice vid Al. My 1st year level 2 was cut off due to the lock down. Before the lock down mess i was send c. V's out left right and centre. There are very few jobs out there for now and maybe for some time to come. £2300 for level 2 plus £1200 for NVQ assessments. If companies are not recruiting where is the new trades people going to come from??? Supposedly you can't get a good plumber for love or money. I WANT A JOB 🙏🙏🙏
My phone hasn’t rung very much for the past 6 weeks. Hopefully, things will pick up for everyone. Thanks and good luck.
Hi Allen, I took the plunge and did both routes into the industry, the latter was with BG. In my experience : avoid the fast track, I'd happily talk to you about each.
And I'd also love to do some work along side you to learn.
Maybe we could do a video together and share your story? Thanks.
I'd be happy to discuss it and see if it's something you may find worthwhile for you're channel
Owen Attewell Where are you in the country? Thanks
I went straight for my level 2 with plumbing I wound say I would of been better off doing my level 1 because level one gets you the practice you need to get used to your pipe bending
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Many thanks for your video Allen!
You're right. There's no age limit, most of converting jobs are like in 40 average, and in trades college You get practice as well
Thanks.
I'v got my ACS Gas qualifications (fast track course) just waiting to do the gas safe (very first) assessment, assuming I pass, it's very unlikely I will get an apprenticeship anywhere (it was hard enough getting help from anyone just to do my portfolio, begging so many people), I've got 99% of the tools needed for plumber/gas engineer (couldn't afford a van I have a car, ) I feel like after passing the gas safe assessment I will have no choice but to go it alone (I'm ok at soldering), I don't know F-all about boiler faults/repairs yet, hopefully I should get the hand of this if I watch enough youtube videos plus I've heard there's a few boiler fault finding courses probably will do one of those, there's also a guy on youtube (for a fee) he takes you out with him and show you the most common faults/repairs on boilers, (I've also got a bit of confidence problem as well), any advice on should I go it alone or hold out and try to find some plumber who will take me on (this may take years, it may never happen, 1 year's already been wasted due to pandemic),
MY APOLOGY IN ADVANCE YOU PROBERY GET QUESTIONS LIKE IN ALL DAY LONG.
Hi the unknown. Not really sure where to start in answering all this but feel free to give me a call. Thanks. Good Luck.
How did it end up going?
I know kids who left school with no qualifications whatsoever now tradesmen on good money, and also self esteem and job satisfaction.
Thank You
I have an engineering background and have held a ccn1 certificate over fifteen years ago but for reasons didn't continue with domestic gas . I have a lot of building experience but now have decided that I want to get into gas /plumbing and my local college has made this possible through free intermediate qualifications however the years have caught up with me . I am now 48 yrs old , my question is am I too old ?
No, Definitely not too old. Good Luck.
I am doing my gas portfolio and the trust was lost with my engineer, He still has to sign off jobs. But his questions about if im seeing anyone or sitting outside my house asking if i will invite him round., Just put me in a situation that Ii cant work with him. I still have 3 boiler installs and I cant bring myself to work with him. I felt embarassed and its hard to complete my potfolio with covid. It knocked me back. All I want is to learn from an Engineer that doesnt just see an opportunity to put inappropriate questions to me about my life. Ive work in other trades so im not niave. But women are put through this and we have to except it. I just thought I would share this with you.
As it made me feel like entrapment. At some point I have to speak with him to sign off my work. It is stressing, to the point can sleep as Monday draws closer.
Hi Kudos, This is very sad to read, Hope you managed to sort it all out. Good Luck.
I was a plumber in Africa and now am in uk and I won’t to work as plumber in uk to but I don’t won’t to go to college and my problem is that the system that we follow to do our plumb in Africa is different from the system in uk and I don’t know what to do
What trade are you doing here buddy? Thanks.
You doing very well job passing knowledge is help people to learn and making decisions keep it up
Thank You.
Amazing video good insight and things to think about. I’ll be leaving the forces next year. I definitely want to be a plumber but I’m still trying to decide how to become one. Around my family and what courses to do, while still trying to keep a roof on our heads.
Any ex forces out there had the same problems I am going to face ?
Hi Thomas, Please let us know how you get on. Thanks.
Great video Alan well done.
Thank you so much for the feedback. 👍
Total agree with you. Experience is time, I did 23yr army and then did the ACS gas course. Struggle putting all the difference aspects of the ACS case into the bigger picture but work with a experience gas guy brought it together. I learnt more with that guy on the tools than any training cse I have done. You can’t become a pornstar without practising 😂 all I can say to any young guys confidence is everything 👍🏻
Hi Russell, How you getting on with the trade now?
@@AllenHart999 all’s good with a lot of practices, I’m not doing any installs or big jobs just servicing, breakdowns and landlords for a big southern housing company. But a big thanks to your self, PB and tomcat for the quality vids that help 👍🏻
@@russellbird2246 If you want any videos just let me know, I will try and cover whatever you need. Thanks.
My comments were my realistic experience as to finding a job in the plumbing industry. Be positive and persistent 💪💪💪 the virus shit has made life even harder 🙄🙄🙄🙁🙁🙁 stay safe from corona virus everyone
Do you have any tips on finding work? Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 i don't wish to be a doom and gloom merchant Al but I Instagram with lots of Plumbers and plumbing forums and for now there is nobody looking to employ mates or apprentices. I live in a London Borough and have emailed companies big and small so far no success. I think it will be a stroke of luck to find a job. Stay motivated and be lucky 🙏🙏🙏🙏 i like your enthusiasm Al 👍👍👍
@@paul_my_plumbs_uk Unfortunately there is no incentive whatsoever for the one man band to take on an apprentice. Its all hassle and cost, and yet they are the very people the government should be encouraging to take on a youngster. Its all geared to bigger companies and always has been.
@@timhancock6626 the big boys are not recruiting either 😕😕😕 when this country has a skills shortage of trades people maybe the government will wake up and realise that they have invested fuck all in training future skilled workers by then it will be too late to play catch up
Thanks for the video! Im 35 and have completed apprenticeship, school, and have a license in Indiana over in the states. My family and I are moving to the UK next year in May, and was wondering if you could give me more insights on good companies to work for, as well as what kind of weight my experience will carry across the pond. Should I start looking into these courses you recommended now, or wait till I find an employer? We are using and immigration consultant to assist us in finding work, but I want real opinions on companies from real plumbers. Thanks again!
I am not really sure but good luck.
Hi Allen great video as usual, I am a 3rd year apprentice gas engineer for a housing company with over 30,000 homes and would love to work with you on a empty property and do a full heating install and show the importance of flushing and protecting the system, only Manchester based so not too far from you, thanks again.
Hi Badger. Your are very welcome to send me some Videos, I will add them on this channel if I can. Thanks.
What housing company is this? I have been looking for a gas engineer apprenticeship for a while
Thank you for your advice.
Greeting from ALBANIA 🇦🇱
Hi Allen, have you heard of 247 training? They offer a course in UK, that has some mixed reviews.
No i have never heard of them, Where abouts are you? If you are local check out NGCFE ngcfe.co.uk/
You are good
Thank you 🙏 so much for your video it helped me.
Hi Shabbir raja, Good Luck and thank you.
Ya brill. Good advise. Thank you ❤
No problem 👍
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@@AllenHart999 your welcome Allen. Stay true. I've subscribed 👍
thank you sir, helped a lot
Thank you.
I'm in my second year of gas engineering and its really hard and getting to me. Im not smart and i hate studying and i dont know if i can do it. My Mum and Dad keep telling me i can but theyre only telling me that because theyre my parents, but i genuinely dont think i can do it. Im 26 and time is running out for a job and i dont know what to do. Im in a really scary place in my life right now.
Keep trying, it will be worth it in the end. Good luck.
Hi there, I did my training while doing work experience on building sites and helping my uncle, cousin and friends who are or were plumbers when I was younger but I didn't get any qualifications. All my training was very hands on, they taught me the basics such as cutting the pipework, bending and soldering, and I have done a few small jobs, mainly replacing sink and bath traps, emergency work including repairs to burst pipes and repairing or replacing toilet and tank ballvalves etc. My biggest test of my experience as a plumber was replacing a full bathroom suite and it took a long time to do because I wanted to make sure everything was done properly and there was no leaks but the only thing that really pissed me off is that the person who lived there kept running to the toilet every five minutes which delayed the job and I couldn't get anything done. There were no problems with the job until I turned the water back on and it started making a loud noise, I checked everything until I got to the main stopcock and lo and behold, there was a big kink in the service pipe, so I had to repair it and it was an absolute bastard to do (sorry for swearing), the repair to that piece of pipe took me hours to do. The main stopcock caused me a hell of a lot of problems, but I persevered and kept at it and it was repaired, thank goodness. I was absolutely knackered afterwards. I wouldn't want to go through the pain of replacing the main stopcock again. I am thinking of starting my own business as Arrow Emergency Plumbing Repairs and I would like some advice on how to do it.
Hi Mark. I have only just seen this, Sorry for the late reply, Feel free to give me a call if it will help you. Thanks.
Hi Allen thank you for you content I’ve got a question if you don’t mind. I’ve completed my level 2 and I’m unsure wether to proceed to level 3 or my level 2 nvq instead? If I do my nvq do I need to quit my job (not plumbing related) and find one as an apprentice or could I do both simultaneously? So many people tell me level 3 is unnecessary unless you want to proceed into management. Please if you or anyone else could advise me on this. Thank you!
You should 100% become a Gas Engineer but after 2 or 3 years working for the most busy firm that you can find, that work on all makes and models of boiler either domestic, commercial or both, whatever you choose to do. Working for a company is crappy money, they are all thieving you know what's and keep most of YOUR hard earned cash. Remember you are the one that is on the job and out there. You literally do ALL of the work. One thing that you don't do though is the admin. Admin, you will have to get used to doing over the 3 years you are learning the trade inside out working for a company like British Gas. You want a company that actually repair boilers and don't cut corners and put customers at risk and pressure you to do the same to tick off the job. BSW do this. As do many council housing and housing associations Gas companies. After the 3 years work for yourself and you will do the best in that trade. Take it from 20 years exp.
Thank You
Fantastic video mate so much detail and useful information. At 31 aftet 9 years of working for the NHS i am thinking about retraining to become a tiler boiler engineer or plumber.
Hi Chris. Good luck
@@AllenHart999 thanks mate
@@chris881989 I’m with nhs right now did you end up doing the course ?
@Harmz Woke no I have just got another job within the NHS.
@@chris881989 ah ok how come u didn’t do it mate
Thanks for this video. I'm a 37 year old looking to retrain to get away from a desk job. I'm going for evening classes at college to do level 2 City and guilds in plumbing. Then hoping to find a job and continue training.
My question would be as an older guy would I get a job with just a level 2 City and guilds?
Where are you doing evening course for plumbing? I'm haven't found one down south Bournemouth
How did you get on? Thanks.
Looking to take a gas engineering apprenticeship, do u have any idea if I will learn any other plumbing skills like fitting bathrooms, guttering etc
This will really depend on the company you go and work for. Good luck.
Hey Allen do you recommend going to college part time to train as a plumber/gas engineer instead of a fast track course ? Thanks
Would you recommend just ringing up loads of plumbers to try and get an apprenticeship I'm doing a plumbing course at college but I don't think I'm learning because it isn't enough time working. Cheers mate appreciate the channel!
I would advise you to watch as many videos as possible. Then when you are in college you will understand it all better. Thanks.
How did you get on? Thanks.
Great video mate!
Thank You.
Good evening Allen,I really appreciate your time to explain in detail to know the right steps to take.I want to learn a plumber,I have a passion for the job.can you put me through on this.am awaiting your response.I am EBENEZER
I'm a 33 year old and looking to change careers. I live in the west Midlands area and am currently working within the NHS. Due to what I have seen during the last year and with the lack of respect the government is showing to us that work within the NHS, I have had enough and need a change. I want to be in a career that I feel valued for what I give. My biggest problem is I can't just leave work though and go to college due to having a mortgage, so think that an apprenticeship is the best way forward for me.
So a couple of questions. Would you recommend I do an "introduction to plumbing course" before trying to get an apprenticeship? I have no experience within plumbing. Where is the best place to find an apprenticeship? Is a plumber mate secure income and regular hours? How much would a plumber mate likely be payed (I need to see that I would be earning roughly the same as I would within my current job).
Thank you so much Allen for sharing your knowledge about your trade! I have learned more watching these videos that all the research I have currently read up on 🙂.
Hi Gareth. I cannot really offer advice as you need to decide what’s right for you. Maybe you could ring some local training providers? Good Luck
Think you might be a bit old to do a apprenticeship a plumbers mate would be on around 100_ 200 pound a week but have known people to get 45 pound a week 😉
Take agency job on the side you will make more money, or move overseas Canada or the US pays more
Great video man thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Allen, im 29 years old. I passed level 2 plumbing (non nvq) back in 2012 at college. I never found work in the industry until the last year ive decided its something I want to do. Ive managed to arrange working with a plumbing/ gas engineer luckily & get paid at the same time as well as learning. Would you suggest i do a course also or not? Any other advice mate?
You could do a sat gas course
@@AllenHart999 Thanks mate, will look into the gas once I've mastered the water side of plumbing first....would you agree?
At 43 I’m too old financially to do an apprenticeship, and don’t have four years to invest in training. I get fast courses may not be the answer, what is the best way to get qualified as a plumber with a view to going self employed?
Hi Jag. Fast track could be a good start though, Then spend as much time as possible gaining more knowledge. Good Luck.
I’m just about to start a gas engineering apprenticeship with a national company. What would you say the benefits and negatives are from working for a large company compared to smaller company and also compared to going the self employed route.
Hi Ryan. Maybe you could let us know how you are getting on. Thanks.
Hi Allen, Great video! I went to college and got a city&guilds qualification in plumbing that has now expired as our college teacher told us we had a 1/10 chance to be recruited and honestly I feel he was right.
I am really interested in starting again now times have changed. But I have found lot of titles given to the roles such as apprentice, trainee, junior or plumbers mate.
Do you have any more videos or advice about where I could start or about these different job titles?
That’s weird cuz my college still does city and guilds for plumbing
How did you get on? Thanks.
Top bloke and top video 🏴
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Cracking video 👍
Thank you.
Wonderful! Thank you 😊
Thank You.
I'm a water treatment engineer and wanted to get into Central heating, phoned around and it seems the courses are 6-8k and run full time for 25 or 26k weeks. You would need to be financially secure for that amount of time as you wouldn't be working during the day.
I then phoned around local gas fitter companies and even those smart meter companies and not a single one would take anyone on without experience so I personally would uave to build my experience for probably working for free for god knows how longnand again would need finance's to cover this amount of time.
I also read stories about people who have had a fast track course and got all the qualifications and tried to do it self employed only to go to thier first job and its its been a absolute disaster.
The the only people iv seen that take on new starts are that company "AO" that sell white goods and appliances but they reviews are 99% lugging a cooker up 20 flights of stairs and then 1% installing a gas cooker lol
I even thought about retraining as a carpet fitter, phoned about 20 people, only 1 guy got back to me and asked what I'm doing now and why I would want to be a carpet fitter, told him I wanted a different industry and then he asked me age, told him in 36 and the cunt slammed the phone down LOL.
Would you advice the fast track course? Or would you day do it but dont be thinking youll be set?
Hi Allan I'm 32 I have my level 1 and 2 plumbing Diploma over a year ago and I'm finding it hard to get work to get the experience to do the level 2 nvq. I've offered to work the free just to get the experience but no one seems to be willing to help.
You can create your own work placement, as long as you know a fully qualified plumber who can over see your work
Keep trying. Good luck.
Hi Allen I did a c&g apprenticeship in the early 90s and only done bits of plumbing over the last 20 years as I do maintenance as my job now have u got any tips to get me into full time plumbing again as I think I’ve lost my confidence in doing the job and a lot of knowledge over the years 👍
Watch as many videos as possible and read books, Study and you will be fine. Good Luck.
Best thing I find is to do the Saturday job self employed. Take on a skill builder every two weeks, build up your skills as well are looking at the UA-cam. That will give you the confidence.
It’s a shame so many barriers are out in place for those coming from related industries.
Please tell me more? Thanks.
I’ve got 15 years experience designing/installing/maintaining complex control systems in the oil, gas, chemical and power industries.
I’ve got qualifications to install pipework the operates at over 1000 bar, I’ve got dozens of safety qualifications.
I work with equipment such as gas turbines, compressors and control systems for some of the worlds biggest companies.
I’ve got a degree in control engineering and could quite legally get a job working for Baxi etc designing boilers.
Yet when want to obtain gassafe status nothing is recognised and you’re treated exactly the same as Dave who was putting lids on jam jars or bob who worked at Argos last week.
Yet in industry I’ve worked with plenty of domestic plumbers. They are simply given a trade test to demonstrate competence.
Chris B Why would you want to do domestic. All that stuff sounds absolutely amazing. I would swap jobs no problem. 👍
Allen Hart It’s been a good life but it’s a lot of working away. I’d also like to use the money I earn to start a small heating/construction firm so my son has a job should he need one.
Allen Hart domestic boilers aren’t that much different controls wise to industrial calorifiers or gas turbines. They just have less health mentoring/safety stuff.
I’m going through the gas path way thing for new entrants and putting another guy through it too. It just seems like a way to extract cash rather than a real effort to produce competent people.
I hear lots of bad talk about fast track courses, what dyu reckon? Good idea to get an NVQ via them or not?
Hi Allen I'm thinking of changing careers i have watched lots of videos including yours. I have had some diy experience and enjoyed doing what i have, my question is I'm 55 would it still be possible to take this up as a career.
It’s definitely possible. Good luck.
Decent honest guy 👏👏👏
Thank You.
Hi Allen great vid! Do you still think it’s worth doing the gas course I’m currently working in plumbing but looking for a change
How can I stop banging on mains stop tap from shared water supply next-door
Driving me mad..
That is a hard question to answer, You may need a plumber to come and check the pipes and the main stop tap. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 cheers mate,I was thinking about installing a prv just above the mains coming in,but could cause problems being on shared supply.
Cheers anyway
Am I too old to get into self employed plumbing and electrics at 42?
Definitely NOT. Thanks.
great video, thanks 👍
Hi Allen would a good starting point be to do the nvq 2 diploma? I am changing jobs and want to start out training while I still work at my current job. Thanks Darren
You would be best to speak with a training provider. Thanks.
Serious question.... I have thought about becoming a plumber in the past and always talked out of it by people saying I am too tall.... Would you say I will struggle being 6 foot 5 ????
I am sure you will be ok. Good luck.
hi allen I’m 21 with no plumbing experience, I’m looking to work with a plumber for experience for 6 months and then fast track level 2 diploma and nvq, then not sure what to do after
Morning Alan great video, I did a fast track training for level two C/G with able skills everything you said was right I’m at a cross road now because I’ve just been doing plumbing work (bathroom/kitchens) I’m now thinking do I do the gas training?? But I know I will have to work with someone to get experience ?? Which isn’t easy because a lot of guys don’t want to train you ?? Many thanks Alan love your channel Ahmet AJ
Hi Ahmet, hope you are well. Are able skills any good? I am on a cross road following the pandemic and in a situation whereby I need to find a new career path and it would be great to understand how your training went? Did it live up to your expectations? Confidence only grows with experience but did you feel competent after the training? - Sorry to the questions just have to be sure. TS
@@tawindersingh284 hi Tawinder, did you end up doing any course with AbleSkills or not? If yes, how did u find? Thanks
Thank You
@@AllenHart999 Guy ask you full questions and all u reply back is a thank u lol what a joke
@@muhammadabbasi9128 I didn’t see a question from Ahmet, Also I get around 500 messages or more every day, I try my best to reply to as many as possible.
Thank you for your advice
You're welcome
In my experience...sorry i havent got any experience yet ....hehe day 1 here gas safe training
How are you getting on? Good luck.
I'm currently doing a gas enginer course it's a fast track one
Good luck 🤞
@@AllenHart999 Thank you and good video it was very informative
Hi I'm thinking about doing a plumbing course or a gas engineering course. Do you have a preference on what would be best to do.
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Sorry I have just seen your reply. I will contact you when I get a chance about the training
@@davidbryan1999 if you want any advice feel free to call me.
Hey there I’m a 15 year old and I’m starting an engineering apprenticeship after the summer.and i want to do electrical as I do physics and I’m wondering did you do anything to do any electrical stuff if so what did you do and was it similar to being a gas engineer thanks👍
I only do gas at the moment. Good Luck.
What’s the difference between NVQ level 2 and 3 plumbing?
I’ve got my Level 2 City and Guilds Diploma in Plumbing but i’m not sure where i should go from there? I’ve been applying for several apprenticeships but not succeeded in one.
Hi Allen I am looking to start a level 2 city and guilds at college would this be a good course for me to get into the industry or should I keep looking for a hard to come by apprenticeship?
Thanks for your expert advice.
What about courses that last about 6 months but offer some sort of kick starter program at the end? I’ve seen one that offers 1st year technical support and a couple of paid jobs a month for a fee
Sounds like a good idea, Let me know how you get on. Thanks.
Hi Allen I’m currently studying level 3 plumbing at collage for a level 3 diploma, due to COVID and lack of being in collage I don’t believe I’m going to pass, what would u recommend next? ThankYou
Watch as many videos and read as many books as possible. Good Luck