As someone who doesn't watch the MLS, the reason why the MLS has one the least amount of appeal compared to other top leagues (to me) is both the lack of quality and no relegation (no consequences for finishing bottom)
I’m an avid mls supporter and I hate that there is no pro/rel and tbh my team would probably get relegated but that honestly adds to it my team is out quite soon normally and then there is just nothing to fight for the rest of the season
MLS will improve but European leagues and clubs are in different level with 100 plus years history and emotion...you can't top that within few years and decades.
I mean if Newcastle and man city can do it. Then the mls can too. It’s all about money and the us is full of it. The entire country just needs to get on board.
MLS doesn't have a farmer's league reputation. .They have a retirement league reputation. Mls can't be a farmer league because they don't have the same winner every year.
I’ll definitely say as someone who’s Mexican-American I grew up watching Liga MX 12 years ago I always thought MLS was trash. As of recently within the past 7 years they have really made a lot of improvements. They have the $ and potential in 20 years it might be that one of the top 4 most watched leagues who knows.
Just 1 correction. The MLS was created because of the 1994 World Cup, just not for the reasons you alluded to. Long story short, FIFA wasn't going to let a country without a domestic league (back then at least) host the World Cup. Sure the US had the North American Soccer League (NASL), but that folded in or around 1984. But, since they're FIFA (and corrupt by default), they wanted that sweet US dollar. Subsequently, US Soccer was given the opportunity establish a domestic league to help their bid to host the tournament. That was actually part of the arrangement US Soccer had with FIFA and the MLS was announced in 1993 (about a year or so before the tournament).
As a Liga MX fan, I’ve gone from pretty much disregarding the MLS and its clubs, to looking at a calendar and saying “my team needs to save players for that CCL game vs Seattle, it’s going to be one of the toughest matches of the season”. Your growth as a league has been truly insane, and combined with some terrible decisions from the LIga MX Development Board in the last few years, I think that MLS has already caught up with us and even became a more organized and better-marketed league. Liga MX still stands for tradition, but MLS understood that it can represent growth, presenting itself as the most exciting new prospect in the region. Which brings me to the point I wanted to make… thinking about Europe’s Top 5 leagues is an understandable goal, but first we need to establish our leagues as the dominant force in the continent and outside of Europe. Which means both leagues need to focus on their most immediate rivals: the Argentine Superliga & most importantly the Brasileirao. This could shift the focus of attention up to the North American region (since South America is still regarded as superior when it comes to soccer). We’re already hosting a World Cup together, and that’s great; but perhaps the best thing to come out of this recent partnership is the amount of international games we’ll have between Leagues Cup and CCL. Since we’re constantly playing against each other that could be the starting point of that much-needed international competition our leagues need. Now, if they could just expand the Club World Cup to 24-32 teams like they promised, then our region would finally have access to that all-important World-Class Competition that you mentioned in the video!! And of course if some sort of yearly “Atlantic Super League” could be put in place, perhaps something that includes MLS, Liga MX, Argentina, Brazil, and the European Top 5… then that would be something spectacular to watch!!
@rodri darko I mean, I'm down for that! Not a bad idea at all. Maybe an "Atlantic Cup" containing the champion from all 3 confederations + a few other teams? All in one venue, of course
@@eko5666 Indeed buddy! Congratulations 😀 it happened to be Seattle but it just as easily could have been Toronto, LAFC, or Real Salt Lake back in the day. All great teams, but now there is a trophy to tangibly show how much the league has grown.
@@luislicona386 all the things you said are correct! i hope mls teams keeps winning the competition every year and prove the fact that they are a serious league since a very long time :)
Very interesting topic and nice presentation. Congratulations for your 5th sub. MLS has really big potential. And I will add that along with ending the expansions (32 would be a good number of teams), part of the developing current MLS markets would be to deal with the "hard" stuff like the stadium situation of NYCFC, NE Revolution and Chicago Fire (and somewhat also FC Dallas, but I don't see any chance coming up in the future). And the overall marketing in the city and the local community of "failed" clubs like Houston Dynamo, FC Dallas and few others. Things like this really hold the league back. It would be really interesting to see where the league will go after the 2026 WC.
No joke I always feel that the MLS has the potential to really get there. The main advantage of MLS over other global leagues is that its the US. That within itself is a future attraction to European stars who would want to live over here. If the league does everything correctly I don’t see why it could not be the 3rd major sport here within the next two decades Also consider me your 4th sub outstanding quality especially for a first video of a channel great stuff🤌🏼
@@BlakeAerni don’t forget mls needs promotion relegation if they want to Reach the highest level of gameplay and with all This culture will start to come In , big ultra Fans will feel bigger than some other clubs with ultra fans can’t wait for the new soccer president
I think it could overtake hockey and MLB in MOST markets in the country within that time. It won't beat out NFL, NBA, or College football in my lifetime unless something wild happens. I'm here for it. Listos Verde!
@@gregadkins2483 I think it already took over The NFL a lot of people were pissed about the playoffs being a scam and the the whip trades deal and big players getting cutt off
the club world cup serves for them to compete with europe, why should europe compete with america in an intercontinental competition like that but not brasil who has a better level of football than the concacaf, produces a lot more talent, etc, etc. It's simple. It shouldn't.
it's why the club world cup format is changing to every 4 years, because it's a massive pain in the ass to organise yearly. A competition across the atlantic like that would just lead to injuries and burnout. Frankly, there's no need for it at all.
MLS needs promotion and relegation to compete with the premier league. They also need to attract top talent at their peak age. Zlatan at 27 is a complete different player to Zlatan at 37.
top talent at their peak age wants and will be playing on more traditional and bigger leagues and clubs most of the times, except for some few exceptions (maybe Gignac in the Mexican League)
I'd argue another important step to achieve the same audience as the biggest league's would be to introduce a promotion/relegation system. This will make the league more competitive and strengthen your football pyramid which will have the added benefit of improving your grass roots football.
Honestly, I thought when i saw this vid that you would have like 100k subs but when i saw that u only had 20 i was mesmurized by the quality of the video. Keep it up!
I don't think the US lifestyle can really attract top players in Europe. You are talking about competing clubs in London, Paris, Barcelona, Milan, etc., cities with rich culture and lifestyle.
@@sergjim2377 But the problem is that all due respect to the US, the american fan atmosphere in the stadiums is nothing comparable to overseas fan atmosphere, as far as bringing football vibes imo. That for me takes a factor on how spectators enjoy watching the matches.
@@sab-vl4jg neymar had already said he would like to play in the MLS. You never know. La, San Antonio, Miami,NYC, are all great places to live if you're rich.
There are actually certain things that European football can take from the MLS. The salary cap is a good one, bcs the salaries these players get are just astronomical and inflate the market.
I genuinely mean no disrespect by this but I don’t think you know how the market works. Also, If the MLS keeps their salary cap they’ll stay where they are for ages to come.
@@forbes4007 You can always go over the salary cap if you want, but there is going to be a heavy tax associated with it. Salary cap is good because it makes thinks more fair.
@@danielpayne7947 salary caps work for fairness sure, but when it comes to elite level sport it’s just not gonna work, the MLS would have to abandon the salary cap and allow the clubs to compete ruthlessly to entice better players and the floor will rise. The MLS is stuck in fear from the collapse of its predecessor, the NFL, NBA etc are only big in America and their wages make footballers look like peasants so it’s quite obvious that the USA has the ability to make its own league massively successful. Most importantly you need a structure that allows for promotion and relegation that is true competition
Great analysis here. The rate at which the level of play in MLS has improved in the last few years is insane. Huge potential here. Now's the time to invest.
I agree with most of us but one thing that is similar to what you said but not quite is the factor in the United States soccer is still a middle-class or rich kids sports. Most of the worlds greatest players come from humble beginnings. We need to make it more accessible to those who don’t have the money to play; currently it’s a very pay to play system
Also, based on the context with which you used the term it's clear that you don't know what "Farmers League" means. The way you used it implied that it meant that they grow and farm out talent. What it actually means is a league where people have to keep a day job, such as factory worker, or farmer in order to make ends meet. In essence, it's not a fully professional league. Please don't take me wrong, I found this video very interesting. But, you come to this from a very different perspective than most football fans, a corporate perspective that is at odds with the way football is viewed around the world.
Why exactly would MLS clubs play European clubs in a sanctioned club competition (outside of the Club World Cup)? Competition should be based on location, you can't just bypass the local competition in order to play in (what is currently) the best market. If that was the case every country would do that, and there would be 50 countries ahead of yours with a more worthy claim to be allowed to do so. How about doing what you can to bring up the club competition in your own area instead?!
That’s what the club World Cup is for! Smh we already have a competition to see who’s the best in the world but people sleep in this competition 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@gordo9104 It’s expanding tbf, to a larger tournament which will take place every 4 years. The dream would be for every region of the world to have strong domestic teams which could put up a decent fight in this competition
@@ne270 it’s already exiting, maybe not for the Europeans but for everyone else in the world who back up their continent even if we know there’s no chance at winning. It’s that what if it happens moment that will dominate the game and make fans want to keep watching the game to see if a miracle will happen. That’s the beauty of football anyone can win. But Europeans have an ego thinking they have the right to win every game
Que buena men, ojalá sigan estos análisis actualizados cada año, sobretodo que finalizando Qatar 2022 se acerca el Mundial en USA-Mexico-Canadá 2026. Sigue así 🤙🏼
It’s crazy to see how fast this league has grown within the last few years there definitely is a chance that one day it’ll be up there with the top leagues in the world
Crazy how mls started about 20 years ago in a country where golf and tennis are more watched by alot.. yet they still somehow have more money than other leagues that have been around for longer in countries where football is life…
What you fail to realize is that the Premier League is becoming a super league. Every team in the Premier League will eventually have super super rich billionaire owner and in the future the Premier League might decide to break away or let some of Europe top clubs in. Somewhere down the line there will be a super league in Europe. Meanwhile MLS is building itself up catch up with Europe top soccer leagues, Europe will eventually take soccer to the next level when a super league is born. MLS will be playing catch up for decades if not centuries.
4:51 trust me Europe DOES have that lifestyle, especially in a country like Spain, if a player plays at say Ajax Amsterdam, there's very few places that could compete with the night life they could get there in the world. I see your point about the US being different more in the aspect of prestige like they could appear on late night talk shows that are so much more massive or make other appearances at big time events
I shall correct u,sir It's the 94 WC, with Brazil winning in penalties against Roberto baggio Italy. 98 WC was in France with Zidane scoring 2 goals n petit another in the final, against a subdued Ronaldo's Brazil.
@@silkychan6099 Yes, you're correct it was the '94 World Cup (not France '98), but that doesn't change the fact that the '94 World Cup was awarded to the US with the promise that it would form a pro league (MLS). The league didn't spring up as a result of the World Cup.
While it may be bigger I don't think it will ever be considered on the same level based on how commercialised American sports are compared to European sports. During our half times, you get pundits discussing the game, in America you get only ads. I have no evidence of this but I wouldn't be surprised if more people watched the super bowl for half time than the actual game. That right there sums up how Europeans see their sports compared to Americans. Also the way you get a team into the MLS is purely based on money, whereas with the league system in Europe money, despite being nearly crucial, is not what decides success. Right now one of the fastest growing teams I know about are AFC Wimbledon, a team not even 20 years old already playing in the 3rd division. They've taken their time and played great football, they can't just buy their way into the premiere league (let's not discuss middle Eastern owners). I mean, Americans support franchises, we support teams.
"Americans support franchises, we support teams" I will be quoting that in the future. The very fact that they don't even see how corporate and passionless their sports are shows why they don't really get football. It also explains why the American owners of the big 6 teams thought their fans would welcome a Super League. Football almost died for me that day.
Great video, though I feel you missed the most important point. DROP THE DRAFT SYSTEM AND SALARY CAP. It's a great idea and one of my favourite aspects of American sports, but not if your goal is to rival the European leagues that operate without it.
@@DavidBee101 The salary cap is not something that I would get rid of specifically because it provides significant stability across the whole league. Europe is having issues with teams running up mountains of debt because the rules of financial fair play simply do not do enough to limit the issues that arise from too many teams spending too much money on players. Besides, removing the salary cap would not even be feasible for a VERY long time due to the lack of overall exposure and attractiveness of playing in MLS.
@@golfer435 Oh tell me about it, I'm a United supporter, well aware of the issues caused by an inflated wage bill. But that's not what's being discussed. As I said, I like the idea of a salary cap, but the fact is that no top top level players are going to play in America for a fraction of what they can earn in the already established leagues of Europe, same can be said for any top prospect that happens to emerge through the American draft or academy systems. Without the top players, you'll never have a top league, it's that simple. Don't get me wrong, I'm almost certain it wouldn't be a success, but it's undoubtedly the most crucial step the MLS would have to take if it were to stand even a small chance of competing with the top leagues in Europe.
It's me in 2024! 1. Agreed. MLS is set to have #30 San Diego FC in 2025. They need to work with Clubs to root in the fan base. 2. It's already coming into play. The PSV Boys are killing it and Weston is becoming a Name at Juventus. We got to continue to produce better talent. 3. 2022 had the 6th Most Players Called up to the World Cup beating the English Championship and Dutch League. Now with the New Apple TV Deal. The League is the most available one in the World. 2026 is a must for MLS to take advantage of. 4. The new Club World Cup in 2025 could allow that to happen. 5. YES! Now that Inter Miami has signed Messi and established the Barça Avengers, the time is now that the MLS should significantly lossen roster rules. As an Atlanta Fan, I want this because our owner in Arthur Blank is willing to break the Bank to have Quality Squads. Even Apple's VP of Communications is saying that the MLS needs to sign more quality players. 4/5 is in Motion.
The USA is an attractive living place (espacially if you get good money). The MLS just needs a more actractive league system (The country is honestly to big for a normal league like that) and the sport need to be more popular so investors also invest in these leagues. With that it will definetly be the biggest league in the world
well for one get rid of the pay wall you know how many people i played with that have talent? but can’t afford it. start scouting talent in america,canada,mexico,central america. convince older players to come here to bring in viewership but also at the same time building up the youngsters.
cant go directly to face eufa clubs. or the best leagues in europe is a little crazy what the mls needs to do first in north america is to claim over regional confederacion the concacaf champion league MLS is still under MX clubs from mexico .if the MLS claim dominance in concacaf in the future maybe
That will change exactly nothing lol, the best talent plays in europe. Great players raise the competitivenss, getting them at the tail end of their careers doesn't help.
I don’t think the guy that made this video actually watches MLS lol. The day football/soccer becomes the biggest sport in the USA then we can talk about this. For now, MLS is like watching amateur football. I’ve been watching for 3 seasons now and the league is filled with shit managers, sloppy defending and just a general lack of skill.
Rather than looking across the Atlantic, I think Brasileirao and Liga MX, have a similar path of growth as the MLS. Just look at the scale of Brazil's and Mexico's Football markets.
@@milkobaldwin5003 Market Size is 140M + 30M pop at the US. Plus Football is the main sport, no real competition, unlike the US. Facilities are World Class for most Liga MX sides. The issue with Liga MX is its relative isolation to the rest of the World. And the Quality of living while it's good. There is nowhere near at the level of western European countries or the US & Canada.
@@danielhuynh9368 Brazil is huge, Top 10 economy in the World and a Massive Football Culture. Brasileirao is by far the most valuable league outside Europe. Don't sleep on them.
MLS hardly market as it is, until MLs is consistent with marketing especially in the English speaking American mainstream, then nothing much will happen
the relationship that the English have with football is like no other country in the world, they love football regardless of the premier league, they have clubs in the lower divisions with passionate fans, MLS is a franchise league, it doesn't compare with the passion that a English fan has for his heart club.
To improve MLS we need to up the salary cap and adapt a promotion and regulation system format but it’s driven by money and performance. How to improve the MLS Soccer League MLS format 34 teams in total at Max 40 games a year in 40 weeks MLS (17 teams) MLS 2 (17 teams) Group Stage format for MLS, MLS 2 17 teams from 1 group in the league = 17 teams 17 Teams plays other teams 8 games played at home and away = 16 games each per team in the group stage To advance from the Group Stage to the round of 16 You need to be top 8 in points in your league = 8 teams from both leagues advance to the round of 16 Group Stage Points for MLS, MLS 2 3 points for win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss Round of 16 format 8 advanced teams from both leagues combine to one table = 17 teams 16 Teams plays other teams 7 games played at home and away and 1 alternate (whoever has the most points in hand will play in a home match in the alternate match) = 15 games each per team in the round of 16 To advance from the round of 16 to the quarterfinals You need to be top 8 in points In your group = 8 teams advance to the quarterfinals Round of 16 points for MLS, MLS 2 3 points for win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss Quarterfinals 8 teams in 1 group = 8 teams Each Team will play 3 home games, 3 away games and 1 alternative in one group (whichever team receives the most points will get to play in their home stadium in the alternate match) = 7 games each season in the quarterfinals To advance to from the quarterfinals to the semifinals You need to be top 4 in points your group = 4 teams advance to the semifinals Quarterfinals points (extra time, penalties are allowed) If you win the match in 90 mins 3 points for win, 0 for loss If you win the match in 120 mins Extra time 2 point win, 0 for loss If you win the match in Penalties 1 point win, 0 for loss Semifinals (extra time, penalties are allowed) 1st and 4th in points play against each other 2nd and 3rd in points play against each other Winner of the match plays against each other in the Finals (For each round you advance points do not reset,they carry each round until the semifinal final knockout round) MLS, MLS 2 schedule Group stage (February-May) Round of 16 (May-August) 8 match schedule every week in 30 weeks 1 match Friday evening 7:30PM EST 1 match Friday night 9:30PM or 10:00PM EST 2 matches Saturday afternoon 1:00PM EST 2 matches Saturday evening 4:00PM EST 1 match Sunday Afternoon 1:00PM EST 1 match Sunday evening 4:00PM EST Quarterfinals schedule (September-October) 4 match schedule every week in 7 weeks 1 Friday evening match 7:30PM EST 1 Friday night match 9:30 or 10:00 EST 1 Saturday evening match 7:30PM EST 1 Saturday night match 10:00 PM EST Semifinals, Finals (1st week of November) Semifinal matches will be on Friday evening and night 7:30PM, 9:30PM or 10:00PM EST Final will be on Sunday evening 4:00-6:00PM EST Promotion and Regulation rules Teams who are apart of the MLS franchise are only promoted to MLS and demoted to MLS 2 Promotion- Highest 4 teams in the group stage in MLS 2 will play against MLS teams next season in the group stage Regulation- lowest 4 teams in the group stage in MLS in the group will be regulated to play in MLS 2 next season in the group stage Championship Rules Four teams with the most points throughout the competition will play in the semifinals so you will need to accumulate points every round you advance in the competition. League Difference between MLS and MLS 2 Driven by Money on Performance Salary cap to spend on players in the season 30 man squad You can keep the rules of the Roster rules and regulations 2024-2035 MLS teams can spend 9-10 million MLS 2 teams can spend 4-7 million 2036-2050 MLS teams can spend 12-15 million MLS 2 teams can spend 8-10 million 2051-2065 MLS teams can spend 22-25 million MLS 2 teams can spend 17-20 million 2066-2080 MLS teams can spend 28-30 million MLS 2 teams can spend 22-25 million 2081-2100 MLS teams can spend 32-35 million MLS 2 teams can spend 28-30 million Teams who are owners have to be born in the US Domestic and international TV rights money per team MLS and MLS 2 teams 55% of the TV money will go to MLS teams but all the teams will split it equally in the MLS season 45% of the TV money will go to MLS 2 teams but all the teams will split it equally in the MLS 2 season Merit Payment MLS Group Stage 1st 50,000 2nd 48,000 3rd 45,000 4th 42,000 5th 40,000 6th 38,000 7th 35,000 8th 32,000 9th 30,000 10th 28,000 11th 25,000 12th 22,000 13th 20,000 14th 18,000 15th 15,000 16th 12,000 17th 10,000 Total: 510,000 Merit Payment MLS 2 Group Stage 1st 40,000 2nd 38,000 3rd 36,000 4th 34,000 5th 32,000 6th 30,000 7th 28,000 8th 26,000 9th 24,000 10th 22,000 11th 20,000 12th 18,000 13th 16,000 14th 14,000 15th 12,000 16th 10,000 17th 8,000 Total: 408,000 Merit Payment for Round of 16 1st 50,000 2nd 48,000 3rd 45,000 4th 42,000 5th 40,000 6th 38,000 7th 35,000 8th 32,000 9th 30,000 10th 28,000 11th 25,000 12th 22,000 13th 20,000 14th 18,000 15th 15,000 16th 12,000 17th 10,000 Total: 510,000 Merit Payment for Quarterfinals 1st 50,000 2nd 45,000 3rd 40,000 4th 35,000 5th 30,000 6th 25,000 7th 20,000 8th 15,000 Total: 260,000 Merit Payment for Semifinals Winners advance to the final 50,000 (2) Failed to advance to the final 40,000 (2) Total: 180,000 Merit Payment for Finals Winners: 100,000 Losers: 60,000 Compensation MLS total for every team: 2,028,000 Teams can earn in competition at MAX: 290,000-300,000
@@JADBeats because the American mindset of sports wouldn’t allow it, I just created a system we should have a promotion and regulation system but it should be driven by money and then staying as a franchise for all teams. The salary cap should be higher every few years as I put it.
@@davidday2373 yeah it does because it’s different this league won’t move forward if we rely on how the American mindset of sports. The salary cap, regulation, tv deals and maybe a la liga merge to create some kind of North American Soccer League (NASL) can make an impact to improve mls to even become the 2nd most popular sport behind nfl. If not then it will stay behind the nfl, nba, nhl and mlb.
@@JADBeats Normal, meaning what? MLS has a pretty straightforward "normal" format now as it is. Nearly 30 teams... a 14 team Playoffs... Western Conf vs Eastern Conf for the Championship.
Sorry to burst your bubble A competition where MLS play competitive match against a select group of European clubs? Pray tell good sir, where can this be fit in on the already packed European football calendar? Or do u mean a super League of European clubs Vs MLS clubs?
Players will always go where the riches are. If MLS teams can offer top players competitive salaries then they could not only retain their internal talent but top international. MLS is going to be negotiating a new broadcast rights contract in the next year and should see an increase in broadcast revenue. If they continue to draw in the fans then the TV contracts will follow.
MLS just doesn’t have the history that most European leagues do even less the premier league. Also, players grow up dreaming of playing the champions league not the concacaf champions league.
@@Fatherless-stillGreat Your right. At the moment the MLS and its associated competitions do not have the allure of those in Europe. But if then they can build off what they have now then who knows what the long-term future is. Especially if they can get a bigger piece of the US sports TV revenue.
@@captainyank138 I agree for the last few years young South Americans have used the MLS as a way to get to Europe. I’m not saying the MLS isn’t a good league I’m saying I don’t think it will ever be at the level of top leagues around the world.
@@Fatherless-stillGreat a lot of teams and leagues are stepping stones for players. If there was a serious competition where it’s mls vs Europe clubs than I could see stars coming to mls because they of course they want to star and captain a team through victory. Yes of course the lack of history will deter some players from coming but i think that’s so overrated to consider history. As long as the star in question is getting paid a lot he will come to the club. MLS can rival the top leagues as long as the right circumstances can be implemented.
The massive growth is expected and the market is there: it's huge in terms of number of potential fans. It's nice to know but unfortunately it's more commercialism. I generally avoid most major sports due to over-commercialism. I'm fine watching minor league sports like hockey, and the lower division soccer is fine to me.
Don't you think for the teams to get stronger, as much as european ones, it needs a tier system ? And the 4 worst every year, we can call Z-4, goes to second division ? third ? perhaps even forth ?
It is hard to believe that MLS will ever be as big as top European leagues. In this country NFL, NBA, MLB, are in direct competition for fans and interest and MLS is not #1. Bundesliga, Premier League, La Liga, Ligue 1, Serie A those leagues are the top choice for most fans in their respective countries. There is potential when you see 74,479 people attended LA Galaxy vs Charlotte Football Club.... Most Americans are unable to name all the MLS teams (28 total teams).
@@StillAwesome21 it literally creates a new history... js man city winning the treble will be their history and wouldn't be possible without money... so yes if inter miami would buy out the whole man city squad, inter miami would be the best club in the world like that...
Needs pro rel. a 20 team top flight will do much better than a 32 one and generate more revenue for each club. I’m addition strengthening lower division clubs wil generate much more interest in communities around the country and help with talent development through broader and more robust academy networks
The problem with that is in America, a second division team is an irrelevant team regardless of the sport. Any team that gets relegated would quite literally die in America.
Good effort in the video. I have lived and played overseas. The money is there but the US is void of a football/soccer culture and it’s not even close to let’s say American football and/or basketball. Also, sporting events in the USA end up costing way too much money. I’d go to football/soccer matches in LatinAmerica and Europe for a fraction of the ticket price in the USA.
I think it depends if you mean a bigger league in the US market or the Worldwide market. I think they might do a lot better in the US but not the World. And it is more than just the level of play, it is also the culture and structure around it. As a Brit, we can look at other European, South American, Asian, etc leagues and we recognise them but MLS is so different. The fact its calendar and schedule is off, plus the lack of games, infrastructure, etc. It is so out of sync to the rest of the world, it will find it hard to compete with other leagues if it continues in a world of its own.
The biggest League in the U.S. is LigaMX 🇲🇽. MLS catching up with LigaMX would be the litmus test. I personally couldn't care less about European Association Football.
First set up relegation and promotion between MLS and secondary league. Then get to the level of Portuguese premiera liga ! There is French League to aim then! Only Americans will set up two conferences and play artificial playoffs for excitement. Thankfully they didn't name it world series yet :D
The Main problem currently is that there aren't many star players. Over the years there has been some star players but it was a retirement league for them. The big exception was Zlatan who I feel helped boost the leagues popularity. If they can bring in more names in like Zlatan who can still play at a top Level then I'm not ruling out that they can become a top 6 league in the entire World, though I still see it as unlikely
I think the best thing for US football would be to send the best American talent to Europe so they can have a career at a great level so the USMNT would improve a lot. Having a successful national team at the world cup will have much more impact than making the MLS a decent league bc the WC has way more attention. Plus for european championship it's important to have a competitive championship so your team are competitive for champions league and other european cup but MLS don't play continental prestigious cup i think so
One more thing, the US soccer team has to perform well at the world stage and that will also bring eyes to the MLS. Especially if they can field some players that play in the MLS but still manage to outshine European National teams then we are talking.
Nothing I would love more than to see this happen but as long as the MLS mimic the format of American sports and not the format of football in the rest of the world then I don't see it ever happening.
You make a few good points. 1 to 3 will happen, just a question of time. The problem are #s 4 and 5. CONCACAF doesn't have anything close to UEFA's Champions League or CONMEBOL's Libertadores. You might be able to boost your regional competition a bit but won't get to the level of those two unless other C'CAF leagues rises to the level of MLS and Liga MX. No chance of MLS teams competing in UEFA's CL. Maybe, maybe a few MLS teams might be able eventually get into Libertadores (just like Mexican teams once did) but I don't see it happening before MLS becomes a top league. So chicken and egg problem. Regarding attacking top talent. Europe is rich and CL is the best tournament in world soccer, so no. Even if you eventually match or even pay better the best players will still have an incentive to play in the best region where they can compete in the best regional league. You will be able to attract players earlier in their careers but not at their best. MLS can became a top 10 league in the world (and surpass Brazilian and Argentine league) but I doubt it will ever be a top 5.
Bringing top talent is not possible. MLS will stay a retirement league bc there is not enough money to attract top talent and the level is to low the MLS trophy isn't prestigious at all. You still can have old talented players with a nice carrer that want a last big contract.
As someone who doesn't watch the MLS, the reason why the MLS has one the least amount of appeal compared to other top leagues (to me) is both the lack of quality and no relegation (no consequences for finishing bottom)
I’m an avid mls supporter and I hate that there is no pro/rel and tbh my team would probably get relegated but that honestly adds to it my team is out quite soon normally and then there is just nothing to fight for the rest of the season
They can't add relegations when they barely have a decent following for the league
Adding it will only hurt the league as oppose to assisting it
Pro/rel would hurt the league more than heal it.
MLS will improve but European leagues and clubs are in different level with 100 plus years history and emotion...you can't top that within few years and decades.
I mean if Newcastle and man city can do it. Then the mls can too. It’s all about money and the us is full of it. The entire country just needs to get on board.
@@lucyfromseventeenth Same league, different investors, and a different culture surrounding football. MLS is not the same.
Exactly
@@lucyfromseventeenth I don’t think you get it england Italy and Spain has build their leauge for so many years not just a few
Premier League existed since 1992. Biggest league in the world.
MLS doesn't have a farmer's league reputation.
.They have a retirement league reputation. Mls can't be a farmer league because they don't have the same winner every year.
Ironic pfp
I want that the same winner every year
I’ll definitely say as someone who’s Mexican-American I grew up watching Liga MX 12 years ago I always thought MLS was trash. As of recently within the past 7 years they have really made a lot of improvements. They have the $ and potential in 20 years it might be that one of the top 4 most watched leagues who knows.
It will never happen!
Bruh MLS is boring asf
@@SnoopyMDL I thought the same thing as well but 20 years is a long time from now.
Viva Mexico y las chivas! MLS will never be bigger their teams still suck
@@gordo9104 mls is already better, liga mx hold back their players, valen verga
Just 1 correction.
The MLS was created because of the 1994 World Cup, just not for the reasons you alluded to.
Long story short, FIFA wasn't going to let a country without a domestic league (back then at least) host the World Cup. Sure the US had the North American Soccer League (NASL), but that folded in or around 1984.
But, since they're FIFA (and corrupt by default), they wanted that sweet US dollar. Subsequently, US Soccer was given the opportunity establish a domestic league to help their bid to host the tournament. That was actually part of the arrangement US Soccer had with FIFA and the MLS was announced in 1993 (about a year or so before the tournament).
As a Liga MX fan, I’ve gone from pretty much disregarding the MLS and its clubs, to looking at a calendar and saying “my team needs to save players for that CCL game vs Seattle, it’s going to be one of the toughest matches of the season”.
Your growth as a league has been truly insane, and combined with some terrible decisions from the LIga MX Development Board in the last few years, I think that MLS has already caught up with us and even became a more organized and better-marketed league. Liga MX still stands for tradition, but MLS understood that it can represent growth, presenting itself as the most exciting new prospect in the region.
Which brings me to the point I wanted to make… thinking about Europe’s Top 5 leagues is an understandable goal, but first we need to establish our leagues as the dominant force in the continent and outside of Europe. Which means both leagues need to focus on their most immediate rivals: the Argentine Superliga & most importantly the Brasileirao. This could shift the focus of attention up to the North American region (since South America is still regarded as superior when it comes to soccer). We’re already hosting a World Cup together, and that’s great; but perhaps the best thing to come out of this recent partnership is the amount of international games we’ll have between Leagues Cup and CCL. Since we’re constantly playing against each other that could be the starting point of that much-needed international competition our leagues need. Now, if they could just expand the Club World Cup to 24-32 teams like they promised, then our region would finally have access to that all-important World-Class Competition that you mentioned in the video!! And of course if some sort of yearly “Atlantic Super League” could be put in place, perhaps something that includes MLS, Liga MX, Argentina, Brazil, and the European Top 5… then that would be something spectacular to watch!!
@rodri darko I mean, I'm down for that! Not a bad idea at all. Maybe an "Atlantic Cup" containing the champion from all 3 confederations + a few other teams? All in one venue, of course
@rodri darko that would be dope, even if it's just in one venue and only a few teams
and seattle have just won the ccl!
@@eko5666 Indeed buddy! Congratulations 😀 it happened to be Seattle but it just as easily could have been Toronto, LAFC, or Real Salt Lake back in the day. All great teams, but now there is a trophy to tangibly show how much the league has grown.
@@luislicona386 all the things you said are correct! i hope mls teams keeps winning the competition every year and prove the fact that they are a serious league since a very long time :)
Very interesting topic and nice presentation. Congratulations for your 5th sub.
MLS has really big potential. And I will add that along with ending the expansions (32 would be a good number of teams), part of the developing current MLS markets would be to deal with the "hard" stuff like the stadium situation of NYCFC, NE Revolution and Chicago Fire (and somewhat also FC Dallas, but I don't see any chance coming up in the future). And the overall marketing in the city and the local community of "failed" clubs like Houston Dynamo, FC Dallas and few others. Things like this really hold the league back.
It would be really interesting to see where the league will go after the 2026 WC.
Absolutely. Having every team have soccer specific stadiums is so important.
I appreciate the sub. There's more to come!
As a Houston dynamo supporter, you are right. The club is absolute crap, and the stadium sometimes isn't even a quarter of the way full
Once we get to 32 then it’ll be time to bring pro/rel and get rid of salary cap
As an American I will
Tell you that the MLS will never be bigger than the Premier League
MLS could be as good as Serie A or Bundesliga probably, but likely not Madrid (atl and real), Barca, or almost any premier league squad
@@Patrick61804 if Brazil
Can’t be better than them then there’s no way MLS can
Thanks for the laugh with this video title and thumbnail, was a great laugh!
No joke I always feel that the MLS has the potential to really get there. The main advantage of MLS over other global leagues is that its the US. That within itself is a future attraction to European stars who would want to live over here. If the league does everything correctly I don’t see why it could not be the 3rd major sport here within the next two decades
Also consider me your 4th sub outstanding quality especially for a first video of a channel great stuff🤌🏼
I appreciate people like you! There's much more to come!
@@BlakeAerni don’t forget mls needs promotion relegation if they want to Reach the highest level of gameplay and with all
This culture will start to come In , big ultra Fans will feel bigger than some other clubs with ultra fans can’t wait for the new soccer president
I think it could overtake hockey and MLB in MOST markets in the country within that time. It won't beat out NFL, NBA, or College football in my lifetime unless something wild happens. I'm here for it. Listos Verde!
@@gregadkins2483 I think it already took over The NFL a lot of people were pissed about the playoffs being a scam and the the whip trades deal and big players getting cutt off
@@gregadkins2483 agree I could see MLS overtaking NHL and MLB in my lifetime, it be great if they can also pass the NBA and NFL….
good video lad keep it up and you’ll become a top tier football youtuber
I like MLS, been supporting it since the beginning, but before competing with Europe, I think MLS should at least dominate the region first.
the club world cup serves for them to compete with europe, why should europe compete with america in an intercontinental competition like that but not brasil who has a better level of football than the concacaf, produces a lot more talent, etc, etc. It's simple. It shouldn't.
it's why the club world cup format is changing to every 4 years, because it's a massive pain in the ass to organise yearly. A competition across the atlantic like that would just lead to injuries and burnout. Frankly, there's no need for it at all.
MLS needs promotion and relegation to compete with the premier league. They also need to attract top talent at their peak age. Zlatan at 27 is a complete different player to Zlatan at 37.
top talent at their peak age wants and will be playing on more traditional and bigger leagues and clubs most of the times, except for some few exceptions (maybe Gignac in the Mexican League)
I'd argue another important step to achieve the same audience as the biggest league's would be to introduce a promotion/relegation system. This will make the league more competitive and strengthen your football pyramid which will have the added benefit of improving your grass roots football.
Honestly, I thought when i saw this vid that you would have like 100k subs
but when i saw that u only had 20 i was mesmurized by the quality of the video.
Keep it up!
I don't think the US lifestyle can really attract top players in Europe. You are talking about competing clubs in London, Paris, Barcelona, Milan, etc., cities with rich culture and lifestyle.
Id argue that NYC, LA, Miami and Toronto have the appeal to bring top talent
@@sergjim2377 But the problem is that all due respect to the US, the american fan atmosphere
in the stadiums is nothing comparable to overseas fan atmosphere,
as far as bringing football vibes imo.
That for me takes a factor on how spectators enjoy watching the matches.
@@sab-vl4jg neymar had already said he would like to play in the MLS. You never know. La, San Antonio, Miami,NYC, are all great places to live if you're rich.
@@sergjim2377 European above US bro
@@PTS-Maid neymar in mls would be gold
There are actually certain things that European football can take from the MLS. The salary cap is a good one, bcs the salaries these players get are just astronomical and inflate the market.
I genuinely mean no disrespect by this but I don’t think you know how the market works. Also, If the MLS keeps their salary cap they’ll stay where they are for ages to come.
@@forbes4007 You can always go over the salary cap if you want, but there is going to be a heavy tax associated with it. Salary cap is good because it makes thinks more fair.
@@danielpayne7947 salary caps work for fairness sure, but when it comes to elite level sport it’s just not gonna work, the MLS would have to abandon the salary cap and allow the clubs to compete ruthlessly to entice better players and the floor will rise. The MLS is stuck in fear from the collapse of its predecessor, the NFL, NBA etc are only big in America and their wages make footballers look like peasants so it’s quite obvious that the USA has the ability to make its own league massively successful. Most importantly you need a structure that allows for promotion and relegation that is true competition
Deformed brain
It’s comment like this why Americans get hate in this sport. You have no respect for the traditions of football and want to americanize everything.
Man also if you keep doing vids with this quality of content you gonna be big !!
Absolute quality content, looking forward to your next video.
Great analysis here. The rate at which the level of play in MLS has improved in the last few years is insane.
Huge potential here. Now's the time to invest.
They can improve at a much faster pace
Buen video manito, sigue asi ;)
¡Gracias!
I agree with most of us but one thing that is similar to what you said but not quite is the factor in the United States soccer is still a middle-class or rich kids sports. Most of the worlds greatest players come from humble beginnings. We need to make it more accessible to those who don’t have the money to play; currently it’s a very pay to play system
MLS bigger than the Premier League? Thanks, I needed that laugh.... 🤣🤣🤣
Only 309 subscribers? Well, you just gained a new one! Keep it up!✅
Also, based on the context with which you used the term it's clear that you don't know what "Farmers League" means.
The way you used it implied that it meant that they grow and farm out talent.
What it actually means is a league where people have to keep a day job, such as factory worker, or farmer in order to make ends meet. In essence, it's not a fully professional league.
Please don't take me wrong, I found this video very interesting. But, you come to this from a very different perspective than most football fans, a corporate perspective that is at odds with the way football is viewed around the world.
Really interesting video on MLS
Appreciate you!
This video still makes me laugh.
Why exactly would MLS clubs play European clubs in a sanctioned club competition (outside of the Club World Cup)?
Competition should be based on location, you can't just bypass the local competition in order to play in (what is currently) the best market.
If that was the case every country would do that, and there would be 50 countries ahead of yours with a more worthy claim to be allowed to do so.
How about doing what you can to bring up the club competition in your own area instead?!
That’s what the club World Cup is for! Smh we already have a competition to see who’s the best in the world but people sleep in this competition 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@gordo9104 It’s expanding tbf, to a larger tournament which will take place every 4 years. The dream would be for every region of the world to have strong domestic teams which could put up a decent fight in this competition
@@ne270 it’s already exiting, maybe not for the Europeans but for everyone else in the world who back up their continent even if we know there’s no chance at winning. It’s that what if it happens moment that will dominate the game and make fans want to keep watching the game to see if a miracle will happen. That’s the beauty of football anyone can win. But Europeans have an ego thinking they have the right to win every game
Great vid man. Deserves more love!
Loved the video length and getting to the point! Also for me, we need to win CCL
Good video, subbed
Love the editing in this
How do you only have 21 subs ? (I’m your 21st sub ) your content is so good and so is the quality you should have more subs
The only way the MLS surpasses the Premier League is if the U.S. eliminates baseball, NFL, hockey and England ends up underwater.
Que buena men, ojalá sigan estos análisis actualizados cada año, sobretodo que finalizando Qatar 2022 se acerca el Mundial en USA-Mexico-Canadá 2026. Sigue así 🤙🏼
Este es el comentario en español que estabas buscando 👻
It’s crazy to see how fast this league has grown within the last few years there definitely is a chance that one day it’ll be up there with the top leagues in the world
Loved the vid
Also here is a sub. As long as you stay professional and informative as you were in this video I will stay subbed. lol.
Crazy how mls started about 20 years ago in a country where golf and tennis are more watched by alot.. yet they still somehow have more money than other leagues that have been around for longer in countries where football is life…
Almost like poor countries can only invest so much in football compared to filthy rich countries like the US.....
What you fail to realize is that the Premier League is becoming a super league. Every team in the Premier League will eventually have super super rich billionaire owner and in the future the Premier League might decide to break away or let some of Europe top clubs in. Somewhere down the line there will be a super league in Europe. Meanwhile MLS is building itself up catch up with Europe top soccer leagues, Europe will eventually take soccer to the next level when a super league is born. MLS will be playing catch up for decades if not centuries.
4:51 trust me Europe DOES have that lifestyle, especially in a country like Spain, if a player plays at say Ajax Amsterdam, there's very few places that could compete with the night life they could get there in the world. I see your point about the US being different more in the aspect of prestige like they could appear on late night talk shows that are so much more massive or make other appearances at big time events
3:14 Nope, you got it backwards. The US got the '98 World Cup because it promised FIFA to form MLS. And it's MLS, not the MLS.
I shall correct u,sir
It's the 94 WC, with Brazil winning in penalties against Roberto baggio Italy.
98 WC was in France with Zidane scoring 2 goals n petit another in the final, against a subdued Ronaldo's Brazil.
@@silkychan6099 Yes, you're correct it was the '94 World Cup (not France '98), but that doesn't change the fact that the '94 World Cup was awarded to the US with the promise that it would form a pro league (MLS). The league didn't spring up as a result of the World Cup.
Great vid! Subbing and hoping you make more vids like this
good vid bossman
While it may be bigger I don't think it will ever be considered on the same level based on how commercialised American sports are compared to European sports. During our half times, you get pundits discussing the game, in America you get only ads. I have no evidence of this but I wouldn't be surprised if more people watched the super bowl for half time than the actual game. That right there sums up how Europeans see their sports compared to Americans. Also the way you get a team into the MLS is purely based on money, whereas with the league system in Europe money, despite being nearly crucial, is not what decides success. Right now one of the fastest growing teams I know about are AFC Wimbledon, a team not even 20 years old already playing in the 3rd division. They've taken their time and played great football, they can't just buy their way into the premiere league (let's not discuss middle Eastern owners). I mean, Americans support franchises, we support teams.
"Americans support franchises, we support teams" I will be quoting that in the future.
The very fact that they don't even see how corporate and passionless their sports are shows why they don't really get football.
It also explains why the American owners of the big 6 teams thought their fans would welcome a Super League. Football almost died for me that day.
MLS is just a retirement home. It’s like having a team with Del Piero, Pirlo, Gullit ecc. nowadays and calling it the best team in the world
W video😤💪🏽🔥
Great video, though I feel you missed the most important point. DROP THE DRAFT SYSTEM AND SALARY CAP. It's a great idea and one of my favourite aspects of American sports, but not if your goal is to rival the European leagues that operate without it.
The salary cap being removed would be a path to financial collapse. Especially with the lack of domestic focus on soccer
@@golfer435 If that's the case, MLS will never be one of the best leagues in the World, end of discussion.
@@DavidBee101 The salary cap is not something that I would get rid of specifically because it provides significant stability across the whole league. Europe is having issues with teams running up mountains of debt because the rules of financial fair play simply do not do enough to limit the issues that arise from too many teams spending too much money on players. Besides, removing the salary cap would not even be feasible for a VERY long time due to the lack of overall exposure and attractiveness of playing in MLS.
@@golfer435 Oh tell me about it, I'm a United supporter, well aware of the issues caused by an inflated wage bill. But that's not what's being discussed. As I said, I like the idea of a salary cap, but the fact is that no top top level players are going to play in America for a fraction of what they can earn in the already established leagues of Europe, same can be said for any top prospect that happens to emerge through the American draft or academy systems. Without the top players, you'll never have a top league, it's that simple. Don't get me wrong, I'm almost certain it wouldn't be a success, but it's undoubtedly the most crucial step the MLS would have to take if it were to stand even a small chance of competing with the top leagues in Europe.
@@golfer435 wise beyond your years
U.S. soccer needs to do more to encourage pickup game culture. It would grow the domestic talent pool and increase the interest in MLS.
It's me in 2024!
1. Agreed. MLS is set to have #30 San Diego FC in 2025. They need to work with Clubs to root in the fan base.
2. It's already coming into play. The PSV Boys are killing it and Weston is becoming a Name at Juventus. We got to continue to produce better talent.
3. 2022 had the 6th Most Players Called up to the World Cup beating the English Championship and Dutch League. Now with the New Apple TV Deal. The League is the most available one in the World. 2026 is a must for MLS to take advantage of.
4. The new Club World Cup in 2025 could allow that to happen.
5. YES! Now that Inter Miami has signed Messi and established the Barça Avengers, the time is now that the MLS should significantly lossen roster rules. As an Atlanta Fan, I want this because our owner in Arthur Blank is willing to break the Bank to have Quality Squads. Even Apple's VP of Communications is saying that the MLS needs to sign more quality players.
4/5 is in Motion.
The USA is an attractive living place (espacially if you get good money). The MLS just needs a more actractive league system (The country is honestly to big for a normal league like that) and the sport need to be more popular so investors also invest in these leagues. With that it will definetly be the biggest league in the world
Nice video g
Anybody watching when Messi joins Miami
Nice video!
well for one get rid of the pay wall you know how many people i played with that have talent? but can’t afford it. start scouting talent in america,canada,mexico,central america. convince older players to come here to bring in viewership but also at the same time building up the youngsters.
cant go directly to face eufa clubs. or the best leagues in europe is a little crazy
what the mls needs to do first in north america is to claim over regional confederacion the concacaf champion league
MLS is still under MX clubs from mexico .if the MLS claim dominance in concacaf in the future maybe
You should make more Vids These are so good I see this going Places
You are very spot on, Market the hell out of the league. That the key 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
love that he shows portland
MLS is a completely different system than is seen in European leagues and in the rest of the world. I think that's the biggest challenge.
Win at least 5 club world cups in a period of 10 years and then the conversation can start
Who cares about club world cups lol
That will change exactly nothing lol, the best talent plays in europe. Great players raise the competitivenss, getting them at the tail end of their careers doesn't help.
Bro u went to mill valley didnt you? What are you doing on my recommendations on youtube😂
Lmaooo what??? Yeah
I don’t think the guy that made this video actually watches MLS lol. The day football/soccer becomes the biggest sport in the USA then we can talk about this. For now, MLS is like watching amateur football. I’ve been watching for 3 seasons now and the league is filled with shit managers, sloppy defending and just a general lack of skill.
Rather than looking across the Atlantic, I think Brasileirao and Liga MX, have a similar path of growth as the MLS. Just look at the scale of Brazil's and Mexico's Football markets.
I don't believe in Brazil. Soccer goes where the money goes. Soccer money is in North America and Asia.
Mexico ??
Thing about Mexico is that many there already have a team they/their families support. People are just discovering MLS.
@@milkobaldwin5003 Market Size is 140M + 30M pop at the US.
Plus Football is the main sport, no real competition, unlike the US.
Facilities are World Class for most Liga MX sides.
The issue with Liga MX is its relative isolation to the rest of the World. And the Quality of living while it's good. There is nowhere near at the level of western European countries or the US & Canada.
@@danielhuynh9368 Brazil is huge, Top 10 economy in the World and a Massive Football Culture.
Brasileirao is by far the most valuable league outside Europe.
Don't sleep on them.
im here the day after MLS just beat both premier league teams that they played
Charlotte FC 1-1 Chelsea FC (5-3 Penalties)
Minnesota 4-0 Everton
MLS hardly market as it is, until MLs is consistent with marketing especially in the English speaking American mainstream, then nothing much will happen
the relationship that the English have with football is like no other country in the world, they love football regardless of the premier league, they have clubs in the lower divisions with passionate fans, MLS is a franchise league, it doesn't compare with the passion that a English fan has for his heart club.
To improve MLS we need to up the salary cap and adapt a promotion and regulation system format but it’s driven by money and performance.
How to improve the MLS Soccer League
MLS format
34 teams in total at Max
40 games a year in 40 weeks
MLS (17 teams) MLS 2 (17 teams)
Group Stage format for MLS, MLS 2
17 teams from 1 group in the league = 17 teams
17 Teams plays other teams 8 games played at home and away
= 16 games each per team in the group stage
To advance from the Group Stage to the round of 16
You need to be top 8 in points in your league
= 8 teams from both leagues advance to the round of 16
Group Stage Points for MLS, MLS 2
3 points for win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss
Round of 16 format
8 advanced teams from both leagues combine to one table = 17 teams
16 Teams plays other teams 7 games played at home and away and 1 alternate (whoever has the most points in hand will play in a home match in the alternate match)
= 15 games each per team in the round of 16
To advance from the round of 16 to the quarterfinals
You need to be top 8 in points In your group
= 8 teams advance to the quarterfinals
Round of 16 points for MLS, MLS 2
3 points for win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss
Quarterfinals
8 teams in 1 group = 8 teams
Each Team will play 3 home games, 3 away games and 1 alternative in one group (whichever team receives the most points will get to play in their home stadium in the alternate match)
= 7 games each season in the quarterfinals
To advance to from the quarterfinals to the semifinals
You need to be top 4 in points your group
= 4 teams advance to the semifinals
Quarterfinals points
(extra time, penalties are allowed)
If you win the match in 90 mins
3 points for win, 0 for loss
If you win the match in 120 mins Extra time
2 point win, 0 for loss
If you win the match in Penalties
1 point win, 0 for loss
Semifinals
(extra time, penalties are allowed)
1st and 4th in points play against each other
2nd and 3rd in points play against each other
Winner of the match plays against each other in the Finals
(For each round you advance points do not reset,they carry each round until the semifinal final knockout round)
MLS, MLS 2 schedule
Group stage (February-May)
Round of 16 (May-August)
8 match schedule every week in 30 weeks
1 match Friday evening 7:30PM EST
1 match Friday night 9:30PM or 10:00PM EST
2 matches Saturday afternoon 1:00PM EST
2 matches Saturday evening 4:00PM EST
1 match Sunday Afternoon 1:00PM EST
1 match Sunday evening 4:00PM EST
Quarterfinals schedule (September-October)
4 match schedule every week in 7 weeks
1 Friday evening match 7:30PM EST
1 Friday night match 9:30 or 10:00 EST
1 Saturday evening match 7:30PM EST
1 Saturday night match 10:00 PM EST
Semifinals, Finals (1st week of November)
Semifinal matches will be on Friday evening and night 7:30PM, 9:30PM or 10:00PM EST
Final will be on Sunday evening 4:00-6:00PM EST
Promotion and Regulation rules
Teams who are apart of the MLS franchise are only promoted to MLS and demoted to MLS 2
Promotion- Highest 4 teams in the group stage in MLS 2 will play against MLS teams next season in the group stage
Regulation- lowest 4 teams in the group stage in MLS in the group will be regulated to play in MLS 2 next season in the group stage
Championship Rules
Four teams with the most points throughout the competition will play in the semifinals so you will need to accumulate points every round you advance in the competition.
League Difference between MLS and MLS 2
Driven by Money on Performance
Salary cap to spend on players in the season
30 man squad
You can keep the rules of the Roster rules and regulations
2024-2035
MLS teams can spend 9-10 million
MLS 2 teams can spend 4-7 million
2036-2050
MLS teams can spend 12-15 million
MLS 2 teams can spend 8-10 million
2051-2065
MLS teams can spend 22-25 million
MLS 2 teams can spend 17-20 million
2066-2080
MLS teams can spend 28-30 million
MLS 2 teams can spend 22-25 million
2081-2100
MLS teams can spend 32-35 million
MLS 2 teams can spend 28-30 million
Teams who are owners have to be born in the US
Domestic and international TV rights money per team
MLS and MLS 2 teams
55% of the TV money will go to MLS teams but all the teams will split it equally in the MLS season
45% of the TV money will go to MLS 2 teams but all the teams will split it equally in the MLS 2 season
Merit Payment MLS
Group Stage
1st 50,000
2nd 48,000
3rd 45,000
4th 42,000
5th 40,000
6th 38,000
7th 35,000
8th 32,000
9th 30,000
10th 28,000
11th 25,000
12th 22,000
13th 20,000
14th 18,000
15th 15,000
16th 12,000
17th 10,000
Total: 510,000
Merit Payment MLS 2
Group Stage
1st 40,000
2nd 38,000
3rd 36,000
4th 34,000
5th 32,000
6th 30,000
7th 28,000
8th 26,000
9th 24,000
10th 22,000
11th 20,000
12th 18,000
13th 16,000
14th 14,000
15th 12,000
16th 10,000
17th 8,000
Total: 408,000
Merit Payment for Round of 16
1st 50,000
2nd 48,000
3rd 45,000
4th 42,000
5th 40,000
6th 38,000
7th 35,000
8th 32,000
9th 30,000
10th 28,000
11th 25,000
12th 22,000
13th 20,000
14th 18,000
15th 15,000
16th 12,000
17th 10,000
Total: 510,000
Merit Payment for Quarterfinals
1st 50,000
2nd 45,000
3rd 40,000
4th 35,000
5th 30,000
6th 25,000
7th 20,000
8th 15,000
Total: 260,000
Merit Payment for Semifinals
Winners advance to the final 50,000 (2)
Failed to advance to the final 40,000 (2)
Total: 180,000
Merit Payment for Finals
Winners: 100,000
Losers: 60,000
Compensation MLS total for every team: 2,028,000
Teams can earn in competition at MAX: 290,000-300,000
Why not just use a normal league system?
@@JADBeats because the American mindset of sports wouldn’t allow it, I just created a system we should have a promotion and regulation system but it should be driven by money and then staying as a franchise for all teams. The salary cap should be higher every few years as I put it.
Pro-Rel makes ZERO sense in this day-n-age especially for the U.S.
@@davidday2373 yeah it does because it’s different this league won’t move forward if we rely on how the American mindset of sports. The salary cap, regulation, tv deals and maybe a la liga merge to create some kind of North American Soccer League (NASL) can make an impact to improve mls to even become the 2nd most popular sport behind nfl. If not then it will stay behind the nfl, nba, nhl and mlb.
@@JADBeats Normal, meaning what? MLS has a pretty straightforward "normal" format now as it is. Nearly 30 teams... a 14 team Playoffs... Western Conf vs Eastern Conf for the Championship.
Sorry to burst your bubble
A competition where MLS play competitive match against a select group of European clubs?
Pray tell good sir, where can this be fit in on the already packed European football calendar?
Or do u mean a super League of European clubs Vs MLS clubs?
Players will always go where the riches are. If MLS teams can offer top players competitive salaries then they could not only retain their internal talent but top international. MLS is going to be negotiating a new broadcast rights contract in the next year and should see an increase in broadcast revenue. If they continue to draw in the fans then the TV contracts will follow.
MLS just doesn’t have the history that most European leagues do even less the premier league. Also, players grow up dreaming of playing the champions league not the concacaf champions league.
@@Fatherless-stillGreat Your right. At the moment the MLS and its associated competitions do not have the allure of those in Europe. But if then they can build off what they have now then who knows what the long-term future is. Especially if they can get a bigger piece of the US sports TV revenue.
@@Fatherless-stillGreat top South Americans talents are coming to the mls so that’s a great start
@@captainyank138 I agree for the last few years young South Americans have used the MLS as
a way to get to Europe. I’m not saying the MLS isn’t a good league I’m saying I don’t think it will ever be at the level of top leagues around the world.
@@Fatherless-stillGreat a lot of teams and leagues are stepping stones for players.
If there was a serious competition where it’s mls vs Europe clubs than I could see stars coming to mls because they of course they want to star and captain a team through victory. Yes of course the lack of history will deter some players from coming but i think that’s so overrated to consider history.
As long as the star in question is getting paid a lot he will come to the club.
MLS can rival the top leagues as long as the right circumstances can be implemented.
Me cries tears in I S L, we even call it football, and we love football as well
The massive growth is expected and the market is there: it's huge in terms of number of potential fans. It's nice to know but unfortunately it's more commercialism. I generally avoid most major sports due to over-commercialism. I'm fine watching minor league sports like hockey, and the lower division soccer is fine to me.
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it definitely has potential
Don't you think for the teams to get stronger, as much as european ones, it needs a tier system ? And the 4 worst every year, we can call Z-4, goes to second division ? third ? perhaps even forth ?
No, not really. They’ll have to get better anyways because they would want more money coming in from viewers like every other league in the US.
I’m here for it but good luck. EPL FTW
It is hard to believe that MLS will ever be as big as top European leagues. In this country NFL, NBA, MLB, are in direct competition for fans and interest and MLS is not #1. Bundesliga, Premier League, La Liga, Ligue 1, Serie A those leagues are the top choice for most fans in their respective countries. There is potential when you see 74,479 people attended LA Galaxy vs Charlotte Football Club.... Most Americans are unable to name all the MLS teams (28 total teams).
Living in Oregon I like to watch the Timbers but I hope the mls never gets bigger then the liga Mx! Viva Mexico primero y las chivas segundo
What about adding a relagation system
Bro any second division team in Europe will destroy a division 1 team but idk about the mls all star but the normal teams they would get destroyed
History of EPL is unbreakable
History doesn’t matter when they could buy out your whole teams 😂😂
@@uabforfindingthisbutalr6464Money doesn't erase history lol, what are you on about? 😂
@@StillAwesome21 it literally creates a new history... js man city winning the treble will be their history and wouldn't be possible without money... so yes if inter miami would buy out the whole man city squad, inter miami would be the best club in the world like that...
I think fifa club world cup shoud be bigger, you would also need to make some champions leagie like cup in north and centeal america
Needs pro rel. a 20 team top flight will do much better than a 32 one and generate more revenue for each club. I’m addition strengthening lower division clubs wil generate much more interest in communities around the country and help with talent development through broader and more robust academy networks
The problem with that is in America, a second division team is an irrelevant team regardless of the sport. Any team that gets relegated would quite literally die in America.
@@wiiplayers19 I don’t think so. There are USL teams and USL2 teams with passionate fan bases as well as other sports like minor league baseball
@@cw4959minor league baseball loses teams consistently and is nowhere near the relevance in the US. It wouldn’t work.
for your only video very good.
Good effort in the video. I have lived and played overseas. The money is there but the US is void of a football/soccer culture and it’s not even close to let’s say American football and/or basketball. Also, sporting events in the USA end up costing way too much money. I’d go to football/soccer matches in LatinAmerica and Europe for a fraction of the ticket price in the USA.
Short answer: no
Long answer: nah
Good video
I think it depends if you mean a bigger league in the US market or the Worldwide market. I think they might do a lot better in the US but not the World. And it is more than just the level of play, it is also the culture and structure around it. As a Brit, we can look at other European, South American, Asian, etc leagues and we recognise them but MLS is so different. The fact its calendar and schedule is off, plus the lack of games, infrastructure, etc. It is so out of sync to the rest of the world, it will find it hard to compete with other leagues if it continues in a world of its own.
0:11 pure classic, where is he now I wounder?
The biggest League in the U.S. is LigaMX 🇲🇽. MLS catching up with LigaMX would be the litmus test. I personally couldn't care less about European Association Football.
First set up relegation and promotion between MLS and secondary league. Then get to the level of Portuguese premiera liga ! There is French League to aim then! Only Americans will set up two conferences and play artificial playoffs for excitement. Thankfully they didn't name it world series yet :D
@Histalian which is why MLS is ass
The Main problem currently is that there aren't many star players. Over the years there has been some star players but it was a retirement league for them. The big exception was Zlatan who I feel helped boost the leagues popularity. If they can bring in more names in like Zlatan who can still play at a top Level then I'm not ruling out that they can become a top 6 league in the entire World, though I still see it as unlikely
Need more.
Well said BA
I think the best thing for US football would be to send the best American talent to Europe so they can have a career at a great level so the USMNT would improve a lot. Having a successful national team at the world cup will have much more impact than making the MLS a decent league bc the WC has way more attention. Plus for european championship it's important to have a competitive championship so your team are competitive for champions league and other european cup but MLS don't play continental prestigious cup i think so
One more thing, the US soccer team has to perform well at the world stage and that will also bring eyes to the MLS. Especially if they can field some players that play in the MLS but still manage to outshine European National teams then we are talking.
Nothing I would love more than to see this happen but as long as the MLS mimic the format of American sports and not the format of football in the rest of the world then I don't see it ever happening.
It would have to be MLS plus Liga MX to be competitive
You make a few good points. 1 to 3 will happen, just a question of time. The problem are #s 4 and 5. CONCACAF doesn't have anything close to UEFA's Champions League or CONMEBOL's Libertadores.
You might be able to boost your regional competition a bit but won't get to the level of those two unless other C'CAF leagues rises to the level of MLS and Liga MX. No chance of MLS teams competing in UEFA's CL. Maybe, maybe a few MLS teams might be able eventually get into Libertadores (just like Mexican teams once did) but I don't see it happening before MLS becomes a top league. So chicken and egg problem.
Regarding attacking top talent. Europe is rich and CL is the best tournament in world soccer, so no. Even if you eventually match or even pay better the best players will still have an incentive to play in the best region where they can compete in the best regional league. You will be able to attract players earlier in their careers but not at their best.
MLS can became a top 10 league in the world (and surpass Brazilian and Argentine league) but I doubt it will ever be a top 5.
Bringing top talent is not possible. MLS will stay a retirement league bc there is not enough money to attract top talent and the level is to low the MLS trophy isn't prestigious at all. You still can have old talented players with a nice carrer that want a last big contract.