Certainly but then there would be no country. Hearing the presenter I could well imagine the attitude of the so called Hindus over the many millennia who would give their honour and ethics away for a few pennies or praise
Why? Wants to distort universally? Get a balanced version . Indian History is too polarised . We have to cherry pick truths from the narratives from either side.
This is a common confusion that Non-Muslims just don't understand. Under Islamic Law all citizens must usually pay taxes. For Muslims, the tax was called 'Zakat' and for Non-Muslims, the tax was called 'Jizyah'.
Nobody in history could ever say that Vijaynagar was an Islamic resistance kingdom...but certainly was an powerful Hindu kingdom...very different looking than an Islamic India..
My ancestors worked as AMARANAYAKAS in vijaynagar army . After Thallikota was they moved to Andhra border, we still practice a ritual known as veerlu , that means we worship war wepons before marriage
Wonderful, vivid , comprehensive elaboration of the topic of the whole subject of mediaeval history of India. Sincere applaud to your intellectual prowess and oration skills.❤❤❤
15:37 there is not only one lower caste poet, you can find many lower caste poets of the era who gives glimpses of their social lives..many in marathi... as marathi was also the language in Vijaynagar Empire...the read the writings of Chokha Mela...he gives the best descriptions of Lower caste people lives in central deccan..
It's an eye opener. All they were after is power and wealth. Religion never really mattered like people of current times would like to believe. Krishna Deva Raya's period of rule is described as Golden age of Telugu literature. I guess their love for indulgence in arts and literature is what made them memorable
That's partially true. If Vijayanagar empire really subjugated other regions, those regions and their descendants would remember the atrocities as part of collective history.
The best thing about the comment section under 'Indians' series is that it's free from rude people. If it's not because of actual comment deletion by The Wire, then it's commendable...
Fascinating history.... I am always anxiously waiting for the next episode. Thanks for all the work that goes into making this series. Very enlightening, at a time when history is being distorted.
Agree with 50% of what has been shown here. Disagree with the rest. Caste was prevalent in Vijayanagara as it was in just about every other Hindu and Muslim kingdom in India at that time, with Brahmins forming the privileged elite. But that doesn't mean that the social system was never questioned in Vijayanagara, or that the kings of that empire never accepted meritocracy. The saint Kanakadasa (mentioned in this video) himself is a case at point. Firstly, Kanakadasaru was not a "Dalit", but Kuruba (shepherd community: they're called Dhangar in Maharashtra. The later day Holkars of Indore would hail from this community) by origin. Kurubas were considered "Shudra" as per the caste hierarchy, and not outcaste. As per Kanakadasaru's biography (that has come down to us through oral legends), his father used to be a high ranking army officer in the court of King Krishnadevaraya, which means that caste was not a barrier to merit at least in military and administrative affairs. So Kanakadasa lived a happy and prosperous childhood with his father being able to appoint Brahmin teachers to tutor him. He grew up up to become a scholar, warrior and administrator, but then various events in his life instilled a sense of renunciation in him, due to which he relinquished his administrative position in the Vijayanagara court and went on to become the Bhakti saint we know him as today. Being well lettered since childhood, Kanakadasa was always a gifted poet: in fact, those poems in which he offers his harshest critique against caste discrimination are said to belong to the "pre-renunciation" period of his life, ie when he was employed at the Vijayanagara court! Secondly, the trend of dubbing Bhakti-devotionalism as another form of Brahminism in this series of videos is inappropriate. In case of saint Kanakadasa we're discussing here, after he resigned from worldly affairs, he became a disciple of Swami Vyasatirtha, a famous Vaishnavite monk belonging to the tradition of Madhwacharya. Vyasatirtha was a Bhakti saint-poet in his own right, but was also the preceptor to King Krishnadevaraya and the high-priest of the Tirumala Tirupati temple, which made him the Rajya-guru of the Vijayanagara kingdom! Vyasatirtha was a Brahmin by origin, but he had no qualms about admitting Kanakadasa into his cloister. Coincidentally, Vyasatirtha was Guru to saint Purandaradasa (again, mentioned in this video) as well, which makes all the three saint-poets contemporaries as well as compatriots! So considering Kanakadasa's poetry as "folk" and the works of Vyasatirtha and Purandaradasa as "orthodox Brahminical" makes no sense.
Good explanation Rohit, I can talk about this episode, as I hail from Karnataka and have done lot of unbiased reading on history of Karnataka. I agree to most of your information here. Due to lot of inaccuracies, I went back to see Mr Arora's credentials, and nothing stands clear about his dept of knowledge in Karnataka history. I can't talk about other episodes, as I have not done Indepth reading. I feel, it will be the same with the rest of the episodes. I feel everybody is trying to break happiness and commonsense of simple, hardworking, people. Most people are not obsessed with religion or history (especially fake history) like what we see now. Most people want to have a peaceful and moral life and good family values.
@rohitvenkateshwaran You say, "the trend of dubbing Bhakti-devotionalism as another form of Brahminism in this series of videos is inappropriate." Where do you see that? I think it's a gross misreading on your part. He has clearly distinguished between the two, in this and also in previous episodes. If you believe your understanding is correct, cite some quotes etc. from the episode. Of course, the two sometimes had similar effects-like pushing out the sex-positive Tantric religion-but otherwise they are rightly depicted at distinct in the series, in their origins, beliefs, and practices.
Let's be clear. This isn't a doctoral thesis, but brief articulation of the highlights of an era in easily digestible and interest evoking form. The presenter has done a brilliant job in that respect. Coming to the two points you have raised, the second one is clearly a misreading (or mis-viewing). Namit hasn't called Bhakti as another form of Brahminism, in fact he has clearly differentiated between the two in earlier episodes and also de-hyphenated them here. Coming to your first objection I am a little perplexed. You are using an exception to counter the general view that casteism was the norm. Of course there would be a rare exception. In your comment you have said how Kanakadasa had his harshest criticism coming even while he himself was in the royal service. Unless you are calling him a liar, this is a first hand account what he saw around him, irrespective whether he himself suffered any burnt. Also Namit didn't say Kanakadasa was a dalit, but a shepherd (15:40).
I have thoroughly enjoyed all the episodes and looking forward to the next ones. A suggestion , if these can be edited a bit to make it suitable for high-school students and published separately as such.Also if you can publish it in major Indian languages with some good voice over artist/ scholar. Most of the schools lack good history teachers and history books are boring. Your videos can be of immense help.
At 5:42, both the voice-over and text say " Anjeyanadri" instead of " Anjaneyadri". Hanuman is son of Anjani, hence Anjaneya, and the hill associated with him is Anjaneyadri.
Good to see history with a different and factual perspective. To complete Indians -A brief History of ......, you need to also cover the histories of further South - 'Tamilakam' and its various periods. Different Sangan eras. Please do your research and bring out the history of this important and different region.
Presentation of Mr.Arora is superb. The whole thing when finished should be brought out as one volume as a presentation to hear and as a full book to read and ponder over. Congratulations the Wire and Mr. Arora
It appears that author (of script) while quoting several well meant studies misses some important things about it. "Recent Developments in the Historiography of the Vijayanagara State" Y Subbarayulu (Journal of Karnataka Studies May-October 2008, 5-2) points out how initial Telugu, Kannada nationalisms appropriated it. He points out early Vijayanagara was intact with almost Hoysala state (only latter incorporated Telugu provisions). But here Hakka Bukka strangely become "probably Telugu". Sheep Sacrifice pertains to period (1424-1426) of Deva Raya II (who first brought Turk cavalry into Vijayanagara army). Remember throughout it's history this kingdom was called Karnataka (even after getting Telugu area). Needs to be more sensitive
when you speak about the empire with the less strong economic base being more warlike, I wonder if this is a pattern that can be generalized? would it be fair to say that economically more stable and prosperous 'kingdoms' have been (generally) less warlike? if so, this certainly could explain the invaders from central Asia (without a strong economic base?) coming into the stable, prosperous IVC.
Vijaynagara empire always fascinated me. Having vivid account of the past empire through this narration is very interesting informative and refreshing. So many misconceptions cleared and made transparent the whole idea of imaginary conceptions.
Mr. ARORA first of all thanks you lot for bringing this amazing series , I watched all the episodes of this series they are very fascinating and enjoyable thanks to your lucid presentation...I want to make demand for some more episodes on Chola empire, sangam age, Delhi sultanate, and Temples Architecture. ❤
Great compilation. The negative impact this kingdom created on Tamil lands is significant right from imposing Brahminic vedas in Tamil temples and sanskritisation of temple practices which Tamil kings resisted till last Pandiyas. They were more invasive, had bitter fight with Sambovarayars of Tamil northern borders. Its the weakening of Cholas let them in and rule Madurai for sometime. In fact, they have created all irreversible damages than any muslim kingdoms at least from Tamil Nadu perspective.
As like this video, which intends to show how modern passions are distorting factual history and creating our biased dominant historical lectures, Tamil Nadu needs urgently to understand it. The "Tamil archanai" religion that Muthuvel Karunanidhi clan advocates for is no less the same as how North Indian Hindi speaking Hindutva thinkers deal with their Persianate past. The difference is that the subject of irrational hate here is Sanskrit and Brahminical Culture and Religion, targeted by Telugu speaking or issued leaders ! Pandyas never opposed the Sanskritisation of the Tamil society. In truth, we can even suspect the source of Sanskritisation process down South, with the contemporaneous rise of the "Muvendar" dynasties (Cheras, Cholas and Pandyas), who along the Tamil language and culture (before them, Tamil must have been a less spread and less dominant language than it is now), flourished or colonised tanks to them. The Muvendar seeking a religious legitimacy through their numerous Brahmadeyas and conformism to a kind of religious taught. Brahmins, who, by the way, were already well present in the Tamil society of the early sangam eras. Indo-Aryan language influence can also have been more significant than it is now, through Jainism (Ardamagadhi and Sauraseni reading and praying Samanar) and even Buddhism (Pali). Of the seven Saptapuri or holy cities of Brahmanism, the sole one in Southern India (Aryan Maharashtra and Goa, and Sanskritophile Andhra included) is Kanchipuram. Why ? Maybe the Vijayanagara legacy in Madurai can be irritating for some people now, notably due to the Polygar system and its consequences. But a little North, in the Thanjavur region, Nayaka (and their succeeding Marathas) contribution was huge and still influential positively.
What is stopping wire to do this Series in Hindi Language if they want to change the mind of Indian Hindus then it should be in Hindi Language as well,I request them to run this series in both English and Hindi Language...!!!👍
An excellent presentation based on research.A very valuable contribution for those who wants to rise above their prejudices and gain an insight about the actual facts recorded in India's history.Congratilations to all the team members who contributed in this presentation.Please keep up the good work.
@@Vdbail you better ask the Vloggers about the languages you are interested in! We are only concerned with the contents of the presentation.A very researched and historical Vlog indeed! Not for the biased people of course!
@@MirAli-o4s : Hope you can understand English. I am saying the research is faulty and biased. Vijayanagara Empire was in Karnataka and AP. The language spoken is Kannada and Telugu. There is a lot of literature from that time. Its obviously in the local language of Kannada and Telugu. His accounts on Sati and the way Women were treated is not found in any of them. This is based on so called foreigners account. How true can that be. The foreigners of that time would have written in Pali or Prussian language. The Author is not familiar with those languages either. So its a fake and incorrect video. Some people who hate Indian culture obviously will find it historical and useful. Get cured.
@@MirAli-o4s : How readily you are accepting it as the Truth. On which basis? Non native fellows narrative is considered the truth. Biased people and their fake historical narrative....lol Get cured!
@@DesiBhoy just visit any temple town in India Puri,Thanjavur, Srirangam which has a temple of 1000 years old...and try to find out the meat in the neighbourhoods of temple and it will take you outside the city or at least far away from the city...the cities and their properties hasn't been changed from that times and in that area of temple you will not get meat..
@@ansh_u_r These meat sale bans in temple towns are all relatively modern. Historically, many residents / devotees even offered meat to some deities, and certainly ate it in their homes located in the vicinity of prominent temples. Some groups didn't eat meat, but they were a small minority.
@@DesiBhoy you intermixed the two things... There was tradition of animal sacrifice which could be either performed on certain auspicious occasion or as a tradition in the sole vicinity of the temple by the very priests,of certain animals and there is other meat selling business which is in town markets...where you can buy all kinds of meats..which the video is talking about...but in the temple towns the laws for meat were different...dont confused it with the sacrifices because even they would be given as prasadam for free..not for business..
@@ansh_u_r So now you say that some animals could be slaughtered in temple towns and their meat offered as prasadam (which was of course for eating too) unlike other parts of town where it was sold? So it was mainly a commercial distinction? Lol.
Dear Mr. Namith Arora, I am writing to express my heartfelt gratitude for your video on the anecdotal Indian history. I watched your video with great interest and admiration, as it was both educational and entertaining. I appreciate the effort and time you put in making the history simple and captivating, without losing the accuracy and authenticity of the historical facts and sources. You did an excellent job of presenting the history without prejudice and with a critical perspective, acknowledging the diversity and complexity of the Indian society and culture. Your video is well documented and cited, providing the viewers with resources and references to further learn about the topics and themes you explored. Your video is a wonderful contribution to the field of Indian history and a great service to the public. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion with us.
I don't know why I get through this torture of seeing the wire vedio every time it's posted, the italian guy says no one knew how vijaynagar queens lived , immediately proceeds with women were persecuted ree..... what is Madhura Vijayam then ? Gangamba Devi not a poet how is she describing muslmans in that book ?
I wonder how much importance we can give to Nuniz’s account about the women in the royal palace. Given that royal women were largely secluded, how much access did he have to the day to day life and politics of the female quarters? We already know that much of the foreign accounts of Indian royal households were no more than bazaar gossip. As for the promiscuity of the kings, they may not have been any more ‘promiscuous’ than their contemporaries. So why don’t we hear more about venereal diseases among other royal dynasties if the time? I would also be a little sceptical of a large number of royal deaths due to venereal diseases.
@keeping_1t_real I noticed that not just Nuniz's but Barbosa's account is also cited. The portrait of elite women of Vijayanagar in this episode is hardly controversial among scholars, and is based on multiple sources, not "bazaar gossip". The fact that women of the harem were secluded, carried only in covered palanquins, given no public role, guarded by eunuchs, and were expected to commit sati, is amply indicative of their condition, is it not? Yes, it’s probably true that not all kings of Vijayanagar died of venereal disease. Nuniz couldn’t have known that with any certainty for more than a couple of generations before his time. But that this happened to at least some kings, including Krishnadevaraya, is still an arresting detail. One reason we don't hear much about venereal diseases among medieval Indian royalty may be that the precise causes of death were hardly ever recorded. Portuguese travellers noticed it probably because they were familiar with the symptoms of venereal diseases like syphilis from back home.
We Kannadigas are very proud of Vijaya Nagar empire & great king Krishna Devaraya. Such a prosperous empire which was bigger & wealthier than Rome. Even the foreign travellers were amazed by it's grandeur. When , talking about Devadasi culture, it was in practice every where in Indian culture & cannot be attributed to Vijaya Nagar only. And the practice of King's wanting to possess the beautiful women is also common for all kings, & for muslim rulers. This should not be shown as negative points of the great Kingdom. Even, Upper class & lower class residing at separate parts of the city can be seen even back in Indus valley civilization & Roman Civilization. But , accepting Muslims as soldiers in the army , trusting them ,vwas a blunder done by Ramaraya, the last King of Vijaya Nagar. Though, hindu soldiers warned against making a muslim the chief commander of the army, Ramaraya ignored it. But the Muslim chief, betrayed him & joined with Bahamani Sultan & other muslim soldiers in the army joined him. This was the cause of defeat of Ramaraya.
guy, accusing Vijayanagar of patriarchy & castiesm is also saying , oh don't judge it by binary of Muslims & Hindus when he clearly states that empire was ruled by Hindus common man, tera narrative narrative dusroka narrative not narrative...it's simple if you start looking for consensus in history you'll end up accepting narrative so listen to both sides
Wire kindly release it on more platforms in different languages.
The country need to watch this.
Certainly but then there would be no country. Hearing the presenter I could well imagine the attitude of the so called Hindus over the many millennia who would give their honour and ethics away for a few pennies or praise
@@anand1pillaiesa nhi hai na to be posted😊 3rr😊
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Why? Wants to distort universally? Get a balanced version . Indian History is too polarised . We have to cherry pick truths from the narratives from either side.
The Lie would be in different languages...lol. Namit Arora and his fake version..lol
Like Nehru's Discovery of India..... Bharat ek Khoj
Discovery of India is the most popular fake literature in the world....lol
Muslim rulers exempted Muslims but taxed only non-Muslims. Two of those taxes are jizya and Khara.
Sorry it was Kharaj. Given this, how did Hindu rulers of that time collected taxes? Were they at least taxed in a fair and balanced way?
This is a common confusion that Non-Muslims just don't understand. Under Islamic Law all citizens must usually pay taxes. For Muslims, the tax was called 'Zakat' and for Non-Muslims, the tax was called 'Jizyah'.
Zakat is one of the 5 pillars of Islam:
1. Iman (Faith/Belief)
2. Salat (Prayer)
3. Zakat (Tax)
4. Saum (Fasting in Ramadan)
5. Haj (Pilgrimmage)
@@PercivalDark Not a muslim myself, but zakat is charity, not taxation. Please check authentic sources instead of RW propaganda.
Dear Namit Ji, We are grateful u bring these history episodes and presenting a very logical pictures.
There is a clear slant in his theme of presentation, almost appearing paid!
Logic may be but the partisan agenda of favouring extrinsic forces but paining the intrinsic in a poor light is obvious.
This guy is a mercenary for jihad
I have been watching the series enthusiastically from the beginning. I would love an episode about the Northeast in the later episodes.
Nobody in history could ever say that Vijaynagar was an Islamic resistance kingdom...but certainly was an powerful Hindu kingdom...very different looking than an Islamic India..
Thoroughly enjoying and loving this series....awesome!
Thanks
My ancestors worked as AMARANAYAKAS in vijaynagar army . After Thallikota was they moved to Andhra border, we still practice a ritual known as veerlu , that means we worship war wepons before marriage
Bribery is part of our culture😂😂😂
Good to see a brutally objective history!
Would reserve my opinion till I see how he portrays the Invasions of the barbarians
@@kunals8022he portrays them as liberators.
Amazing. I always make sure to add a comment to increase the reach. Will you please do an episode on the Bengal and East region. Thanks.
Exactly - very little authentic research videos on history of bengal
well done and please continue with more such
As classy as always it is👌
Excellent presentation,👏👏
Fake analysis. First learn local language Kannada and Telugu. Check their historical reference. This video is 100% nonsense.
Wonderful explanation 🙏🙏🙏
Really enjoyed
Well done wire...keep it up ❤
Hooked to this series....very well written and directed👍
Excellent sir.
Wonderful, vivid , comprehensive elaboration of the topic of the whole subject of mediaeval history of India. Sincere applaud to your intellectual prowess and oration skills.❤❤❤
Please think about compiling these episodes as a book, dvd etc before they are taken down.
15:37 there is not only one lower caste poet, you can find many lower caste poets of the era who gives glimpses of their social lives..many in marathi... as marathi was also the language in Vijaynagar Empire...the read the writings of Chokha Mela...he gives the best descriptions of Lower caste people lives in central deccan..
Great insights, as always.
Intresting history telling ways ty sir👍
Amazing narration as always ❤🎉
Shukriya ❤
Fantastic episode. Read Rushdie's Victory City recently and this is all the more interesting right now..
It's an eye opener. All they were after is power and wealth. Religion never really mattered like people of current times would like to believe. Krishna Deva Raya's period of rule is described as Golden age of Telugu literature. I guess their love for indulgence in arts and literature is what made them memorable
That's partially true. If Vijayanagar empire really subjugated other regions, those regions and their descendants would remember the atrocities as part of collective history.
The best thing about the comment section under 'Indians' series is that it's free from rude people. If it's not because of actual comment deletion by The Wire, then it's commendable...
Leftists never accept criticism.
My comment would be deleted immediately.
Fascinating history.... I am always anxiously waiting for the next episode. Thanks for all the work that goes into making this series. Very enlightening, at a time when history is being distorted.
Agree with 50% of what has been shown here. Disagree with the rest.
Caste was prevalent in Vijayanagara as it was in just about every other Hindu and Muslim kingdom in India at that time, with Brahmins forming the privileged elite. But that doesn't mean that the social system was never questioned in Vijayanagara, or that the kings of that empire never accepted meritocracy. The saint Kanakadasa (mentioned in this video) himself is a case at point. Firstly, Kanakadasaru was not a "Dalit", but Kuruba (shepherd community: they're called Dhangar in Maharashtra. The later day Holkars of Indore would hail from this community) by origin. Kurubas were considered "Shudra" as per the caste hierarchy, and not outcaste. As per Kanakadasaru's biography (that has come down to us through oral legends), his father used to be a high ranking army officer in the court of King Krishnadevaraya, which means that caste was not a barrier to merit at least in military and administrative affairs. So Kanakadasa lived a happy and prosperous childhood with his father being able to appoint Brahmin teachers to tutor him. He grew up up to become a scholar, warrior and administrator, but then various events in his life instilled a sense of renunciation in him, due to which he relinquished his administrative position in the Vijayanagara court and went on to become the Bhakti saint we know him as today. Being well lettered since childhood, Kanakadasa was always a gifted poet: in fact, those poems in which he offers his harshest critique against caste discrimination are said to belong to the "pre-renunciation" period of his life, ie when he was employed at the Vijayanagara court!
Secondly, the trend of dubbing Bhakti-devotionalism as another form of Brahminism in this series of videos is inappropriate. In case of saint Kanakadasa we're discussing here, after he resigned from worldly affairs, he became a disciple of Swami Vyasatirtha, a famous Vaishnavite monk belonging to the tradition of Madhwacharya. Vyasatirtha was a Bhakti saint-poet in his own right, but was also the preceptor to King Krishnadevaraya and the high-priest of the Tirumala Tirupati temple, which made him the Rajya-guru of the Vijayanagara kingdom! Vyasatirtha was a Brahmin by origin, but he had no qualms about admitting Kanakadasa into his cloister. Coincidentally, Vyasatirtha was Guru to saint Purandaradasa (again, mentioned in this video) as well, which makes all the three saint-poets contemporaries as well as compatriots! So considering Kanakadasa's poetry as "folk" and the works of Vyasatirtha and Purandaradasa as "orthodox Brahminical" makes no sense.
Good explanation Rohit, I can talk about this episode, as I hail from Karnataka and have done lot of unbiased reading on history of Karnataka. I agree to most of your information here. Due to lot of inaccuracies, I went back to see Mr Arora's credentials, and nothing stands clear about his dept of knowledge in Karnataka history. I can't talk about other episodes, as I have not done Indepth reading. I feel, it will be the same with the rest of the episodes. I feel everybody is trying to break happiness and commonsense of simple, hardworking, people. Most people are not obsessed with religion or history (especially fake history) like what we see now. Most people want to have a peaceful and moral life and good family values.
@rohitvenkateshwaran You say, "the trend of dubbing Bhakti-devotionalism as another form of Brahminism in this series of videos is inappropriate."
Where do you see that? I think it's a gross misreading on your part. He has clearly distinguished between the two, in this and also in previous episodes. If you believe your understanding is correct, cite some quotes etc. from the episode. Of course, the two sometimes had similar effects-like pushing out the sex-positive Tantric religion-but otherwise they are rightly depicted at distinct in the series, in their origins, beliefs, and practices.
Let's be clear. This isn't a doctoral thesis, but brief articulation of the highlights of an era in easily digestible and interest evoking form. The presenter has done a brilliant job in that respect. Coming to the two points you have raised, the second one is clearly a misreading (or mis-viewing). Namit hasn't called Bhakti as another form of Brahminism, in fact he has clearly differentiated between the two in earlier episodes and also de-hyphenated them here. Coming to your first objection I am a little perplexed. You are using an exception to counter the general view that casteism was the norm. Of course there would be a rare exception. In your comment you have said how Kanakadasa had his harshest criticism coming even while he himself was in the royal service. Unless you are calling him a liar, this is a first hand account what he saw around him, irrespective whether he himself suffered any burnt. Also Namit didn't say Kanakadasa was a dalit, but a shepherd (15:40).
Amazed by this new series on Indian history!!!...lovenit❤❤❤
Good lecture. Thanks
A Good job done
Thank you for setting the records of history straight
Misinformation from this video. No truth.
Namit Arora ondu bolli maga. Its in Kannada. Decipher :)
Any body else gets so excited to see new episode on youtube feed!!
Excellently explained and documented...Thanks WIRE
Excellent!
Very nice series
I have thoroughly enjoyed all the episodes and looking forward to the next ones.
A suggestion , if these can be edited a bit to make it suitable for high-school students and published separately as such.Also if you can publish it in major Indian languages with some good voice over artist/ scholar. Most of the schools lack good history teachers and history books are boring. Your videos can be of immense help.
I eagerly wait for your episode of Indians, an excellent factual account of our history
At 5:42, both the voice-over and text say " Anjeyanadri" instead of " Anjaneyadri". Hanuman is son of Anjani, hence Anjaneya, and the hill associated with him is Anjaneyadri.
So fascinating.. ❤
Great work. Please never stop telling facts.
Thanks Again as Always
Very informative! I wish to see an episode on Northeast India also.
Sir, You could have used some more accounts of information from the russian traveller Afanasy Nikintin
Excellent....
Excellent visuals . Thank you sir
Good to see history with a different and factual perspective. To complete Indians -A brief History of ......, you need to also cover the histories of further South - 'Tamilakam' and its various periods. Different Sangan eras. Please do your research and bring out the history of this important and different region.
this episode open the Pandora's box of lies and shame for both north and south Indians....yeh to dhoti khol raha hai sabki :P
amazing history of South India
Thanks for your hard work sir
Very good analysis
👍👍👍 for each and every segment
Presentation of Mr.Arora is superb. The whole thing when finished should be brought out as one volume as a presentation to hear and as a full book to read and ponder over. Congratulations the Wire and Mr. Arora
5:08 thank you ANAM SHEIKH JI for your such a secular video editing 😅😅😅
It appears that author (of script) while quoting several well meant studies misses some important things about it. "Recent Developments in the Historiography of the Vijayanagara State" Y Subbarayulu (Journal of Karnataka Studies May-October 2008, 5-2) points out how initial Telugu, Kannada nationalisms appropriated it. He points out early Vijayanagara was intact with almost Hoysala state (only latter incorporated Telugu provisions). But here Hakka Bukka strangely become "probably Telugu". Sheep Sacrifice pertains to period (1424-1426) of Deva Raya II (who first brought Turk cavalry into Vijayanagara army). Remember throughout it's history this kingdom was called Karnataka (even after getting Telugu area). Needs to be more sensitive
True!
when you speak about the empire with the less strong economic base being more warlike, I wonder if this is a pattern that can be generalized? would it be fair to say that economically more stable and prosperous 'kingdoms' have been (generally) less warlike? if so, this certainly could explain the invaders from central Asia (without a strong economic base?) coming into the stable, prosperous IVC.
They failed to innovate when they needed it the most
why did not talk about Cheras, Cholas and Pandya Kings who were more powerful than many kings in the world?
Sir please make 2nd part of foreign travellers
Great informative episode
Fabulous series. Thank you Mr. Arora. Much needed in today’s day and age.
high respect for this report
Very informative series👍
Thank you for clear growth mindset brief on south Indian history.
Always waiting for next episode
Good knowledge
Please release it in Hindi too. It will help many. Waiting for the next episode ❤
Wonderful series
Vijaynagara empire always fascinated me. Having vivid account of the past empire through this narration is very interesting informative and refreshing. So many misconceptions cleared and made transparent the whole idea of imaginary conceptions.
Fake analysis. First learn local language Kannada and Telugu. Check their historical reference. This video is 100% nonsense.
Mr. ARORA first of all thanks you lot for bringing this amazing series , I watched all the episodes of this series they are very fascinating and enjoyable thanks to your lucid presentation...I want to make demand for some more episodes on Chola empire, sangam age, Delhi sultanate, and Temples Architecture. ❤
Great compilation. The negative impact this kingdom created on Tamil lands is significant right from imposing Brahminic vedas in Tamil temples and sanskritisation of temple practices which Tamil kings resisted till last Pandiyas. They were more invasive, had bitter fight with Sambovarayars of Tamil northern borders. Its the weakening of Cholas let them in and rule Madurai for sometime. In fact, they have created all irreversible damages than any muslim kingdoms at least from Tamil Nadu perspective.
As like this video, which intends to show how modern passions are distorting factual history and creating our biased dominant historical lectures, Tamil Nadu needs urgently to understand it.
The "Tamil archanai" religion that Muthuvel Karunanidhi clan advocates for is no less the same as how North Indian Hindi speaking Hindutva thinkers deal with their Persianate past. The difference is that the subject of irrational hate here is Sanskrit and Brahminical Culture and Religion, targeted by Telugu speaking or issued leaders !
Pandyas never opposed the Sanskritisation of the Tamil society. In truth, we can even suspect the source of Sanskritisation process down South, with the contemporaneous rise of the "Muvendar" dynasties (Cheras, Cholas and Pandyas), who along the Tamil language and culture (before them, Tamil must have been a less spread and less dominant language than it is now), flourished or colonised tanks to them. The Muvendar seeking a religious legitimacy through their numerous Brahmadeyas and conformism to a kind of religious taught. Brahmins, who, by the way, were already well present in the Tamil society of the early sangam eras. Indo-Aryan language influence can also have been more significant than it is now, through Jainism (Ardamagadhi and Sauraseni reading and praying Samanar) and even Buddhism (Pali). Of the seven Saptapuri or holy cities of Brahmanism, the sole one in Southern India (Aryan Maharashtra and Goa, and Sanskritophile Andhra included) is Kanchipuram. Why ?
Maybe the Vijayanagara legacy in Madurai can be irritating for some people now, notably due to the Polygar system and its consequences.
But a little North, in the Thanjavur region, Nayaka (and their succeeding Marathas) contribution was huge and still influential positively.
Really enjoying this series..
Have also shared it! Thank you Sir! 😊
What is stopping wire to do this Series in Hindi Language if they want to change the mind of Indian Hindus then it should be in Hindi Language as well,I request them to run this series in both English and Hindi Language...!!!👍
It felt like reading a history book authored by a scholar named "UNBIASED" . Netflix worthy materials. Let it come....
Thank you for this enthralling series on the History of India. Very informative, educational, insightful !! The series should reach a wider audience.
An excellent presentation based on research.A very valuable contribution for those who wants to rise above their prejudices and gain an insight about the actual facts recorded in India's history.Congratilations to all the team members who contributed in this presentation.Please keep up the good work.
What research? Hahhaha
Does he know the local language Kannada or Telugu?
Fake video...lol
@@Vdbail you better ask the Vloggers about the languages you are interested in! We are only concerned with the contents of the presentation.A very researched and historical Vlog indeed! Not for the biased people of course!
@@MirAli-o4s : Hope you can understand English. I am saying the research is faulty and biased. Vijayanagara Empire was in Karnataka and AP. The language spoken is Kannada and Telugu. There is a lot of literature from that time. Its obviously in the local language of Kannada and Telugu. His accounts on Sati and the way Women were treated is not found in any of them. This is based on so called foreigners account. How true can that be. The foreigners of that time would have written in Pali or Prussian language. The Author is not familiar with those languages either. So its a fake and incorrect video.
Some people who hate Indian culture obviously will find it historical and useful. Get cured.
@@MirAli-o4s : How readily you are accepting it as the Truth. On which basis?
Non native fellows narrative is considered the truth. Biased people and their fake historical narrative....lol
Get cured!
Thank you sir..
13:00 Hampi was always been a temple town but Vijaynagar wasn't...ban on meat in Hampi predates...
Source? Meat bans are all relatively modern in south India (except for cow meat).
@@DesiBhoy just visit any temple town in India Puri,Thanjavur, Srirangam which has a temple of 1000 years old...and try to find out the meat in the neighbourhoods of temple and it will take you outside the city or at least far away from the city...the cities and their properties hasn't been changed from that times and in that area of temple you will not get meat..
@@ansh_u_r These meat sale bans in temple towns are all relatively modern. Historically, many residents / devotees even offered meat to some deities, and certainly ate it in their homes located in the vicinity of prominent temples. Some groups didn't eat meat, but they were a small minority.
@@DesiBhoy you intermixed the two things... There was tradition of animal sacrifice which could be either performed on certain auspicious occasion or as a tradition in the sole vicinity of the temple by the very priests,of certain animals and there is other meat selling business which is in town markets...where you can buy all kinds of meats..which the video is talking about...but in the temple towns the laws for meat were different...dont confused it with the sacrifices because even they would be given as prasadam for free..not for business..
@@ansh_u_r So now you say that some animals could be slaughtered in temple towns and their meat offered as prasadam (which was of course for eating too) unlike other parts of town where it was sold? So it was mainly a commercial distinction? Lol.
Fantastic work... Loved it.
Please upload next episode its very interesting series
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Wonderful series. Looking forward to the next episode.
Thanks for analysis
I am waiting for next episode
Supar
I don't know why I get through this torture of seeing the wire vedio every time it's posted, the italian guy says no one knew how vijaynagar queens lived , immediately proceeds with women were persecuted ree..... what is Madhura Vijayam then ? Gangamba Devi not a poet how is she describing muslmans in that book ?
How to see earlier episodes?
I wonder how much importance we can give to Nuniz’s account about the women in the royal palace. Given that royal women were largely secluded, how much access did he have to the day to day life and politics of the female quarters?
We already know that much of the foreign accounts of Indian royal households were no more than bazaar gossip.
As for the promiscuity of the kings, they may not have been any more ‘promiscuous’ than their contemporaries. So why don’t we hear more about venereal diseases among other royal dynasties if the time?
I would also be a little sceptical of a large number of royal deaths due to venereal diseases.
@keeping_1t_real I noticed that not just Nuniz's but Barbosa's account is also cited. The portrait of elite women of Vijayanagar in this episode is hardly controversial among scholars, and is based on multiple sources, not "bazaar gossip". The fact that women of the harem were secluded, carried only in covered palanquins, given no public role, guarded by eunuchs, and were expected to commit sati, is amply indicative of their condition, is it not?
Yes, it’s probably true that not all kings of Vijayanagar died of venereal disease. Nuniz couldn’t have known that with any certainty for more than a couple of generations before his time. But that this happened to at least some kings, including Krishnadevaraya, is still an arresting detail. One reason we don't hear much about venereal diseases among medieval Indian royalty may be that the precise causes of death were hardly ever recorded. Portuguese travellers noticed it probably because they were familiar with the symptoms of venereal diseases like syphilis from back home.
Hakka raya and bukka raya were kannada feudal commanders of Telugu Kakatiyas kings
We Kannadigas are very proud of Vijaya Nagar empire & great king Krishna Devaraya. Such a prosperous empire which was bigger & wealthier than Rome. Even the foreign travellers were amazed by it's grandeur.
When , talking about Devadasi culture, it was in practice every where in Indian culture & cannot be attributed to Vijaya Nagar only. And the practice of King's wanting to possess the beautiful women is also common for all kings, & for muslim rulers. This should not be shown as negative points of the great Kingdom. Even, Upper class & lower class residing at separate parts of the city can be seen even back in Indus valley civilization & Roman Civilization.
But , accepting Muslims as soldiers in the army , trusting them ,vwas a blunder done by Ramaraya, the last King of Vijaya Nagar. Though, hindu soldiers warned against making a muslim the chief commander of the army, Ramaraya ignored it. But the Muslim chief, betrayed him & joined with Bahamani Sultan & other muslim soldiers in the army joined him. This was the cause of defeat of Ramaraya.
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Thanks Namit sir i love the way you narrate. Awesome work, fantastic research.
Loved the whole series, great research and presentation, Bohat zabardast Namit Sahib, Samandar ko qoozay mai band kardia apnay!!
guy, accusing Vijayanagar of patriarchy & castiesm is also saying , oh don't judge it by binary of Muslims & Hindus when he clearly states that empire was ruled by Hindus common man, tera narrative narrative dusroka narrative not narrative...it's simple if you start looking for consensus in history you'll end up accepting narrative so listen to both sides
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Wonderful insight, love this series!
Bad coverage on the details of South and especially Tamils