I remember when I was younger I used to believe that pink and purple were the only "girl colors"and every other color was a " Boy color". Even freaking McDonald's has pokemon as "boy toys"! Just Gimme my Pikachu dammit!
I had a friend Medha. Her family was.....a bit different. Her parents always wanted a son but at first they got a daughter. But then they got a son too after a couple years. She is always treated to do stuff like cleaning, dusting and putting the dishes. She can't play, talk and even look at boys. She can only be friends with girls. She can't play sports, be soft spoken, play with dolls (but she should stop when she turns 8 cause now she is big) and she must get married as soon as she will turn 18 years. But her brother can do anything. Be friends with anyone, play sports, be Bully or whatever, be tough, shouldn't cry, not to play with girl stuff (dolls) and he doesn't need to do any chores. Now this is my part When I became friends with Medha, I didnt notice she was trying to change how I think. I used to play football/soccer with boys at school and used to watch DC movies. I also had many friends who were boys. She started to make me think like her. No boys no football, no blue and no marvel. But I noticed quick so I told her not to say such stuff to me. She didn't listen. She left me and went with the other girls and then became a Bully. All the girls were jealous I think Idk I just felt like that. Before they only said mean stuff but then they started to push me and hit me. Well I had complained to our teacher so she said ignore them. But the next day Medha was gonna hit right on my eye so I blocked her hand and punched on her stomach. (I am brown 1 belt in karate) but because I hit her I got punished at school. This wasn't fair. Now, some of u must be like, where were the boys they didn't help me? Well, they used to bystand while I got bullied. Sometimes they would say stop but the girls would insult them. And they were pretty scared too. I am not good in roasting people but I'll improve. Idk why I comment the whole thing but I hope someone reads it...
A child shouldn't stop playing with toys at 8, I still played with them until I was 15 and a half. I find it disgusting when people force 8-14 year olds to stop being childlike.
I’m pretty glad my boyfriend and I have pretty similar ideas about gender roles in the relationship. We both cook and clean (in fact most of our fights are about me not cleaning up my messes). I cook and shop more because I enjoy it, he does technical stuff more because enjoys that, and we take turns taking out the trash because we both hate it. :’)
I hated when I go to McDonald’s and they asked me if I’m a girl or a boy because I never liked girls one tho I am one. I was so ashamed that I wasn’t fit in the gender stereotype. Now I’m super proud of myself for being tomboy.
I was babysitting a girl at a park and then a little boy came up too play with us; idk remember how the question came up but he said, “Can boy do girl stuff?” I of course said yes. And that it would be perfectly fine is he wanted to wear makeup and traditionally feminine clothing. He asked me to braid his hair after that, he was a sweet kid
i’m sad he even calls it “girl stuff”. it should just be stuff you either like or you don’t. things and activities and personalities are not supposed to have a gender ://
@@alezzziia bro. Personality has nothing to do with this. Kids do not know how the world works. When they're growing up their environment shapes them. So when it comes to gender thy classify between the two as 'boy' or 'girl' stuff based on theirr perspective on things. ://
If that story is true, that's ridiculous that they would have assigned toys for the gender of the kid. Why don't they just straight up ask the kid if they want a coloring book or a yo-yo?
My parents mean well, but they’re stuck in old habits unfortunately. And since I’ve grown up in that atmosphere I’ve picked up the same habits. But I’m doing my best to break them. 👍🏻
yes taking it inna positive way i feel I'm learning not to be so when my under responsibility😔that's what i want to learn from this behaviour of theirs.!
I love this!! I think people underestimate the power they have to influence their children's idea of sex/gender and it ultimately leads to a possible lifetime of guilt-shaming nonsense!! Let kids be free and let them be happy :-)
In my family , mom always asks me and my sis to do household chores whereas my brother he gets to relax all day. If I argue about this my mom will say " now he will do dishes for u" I was so disappointed at her. My dad takes my side. And my brother says in name of equality u want to do anything. I think he has some other definition of quality.
Sweet baby Jesus, please send my way a man this mature and this evolved! In this age of rusty, bitter little sycophants running around everywhere, it's nice to be reminded that gems like this man still exist.
@@altruisticflower9627 thank heavens for that 🌸 I get where OP is coming from. People's shitty beliefs are all over the internet for us to see everyday. And the more the shitty the take someone has, the more controversy and hype it gathers. To summarise, being on the internet makes me feel like the world is burning itself down lmao. But I know... I think that things are not that bad. Men and women, just people in general, are definitely a lot more open to questioning gender roles and norms. And that is great! That is probably also why "take us back to a time when women were slaves to our every whim!" kinda people seem so loud and jarring today. More progress means opposition gets louder.
I'm actually writing a paper about the connection between gender and expectations about romantic love, and as background information I had to write about some theories about love and gender. Most of my theories about gender and gender development are focused about the parents' influence on gender development. And it's really interesting to me, bc most of them say the same things with different words.
Arunima Tiwari it's a part of my final in psychology! We have 2 big tests and a paper (a big part of it is based on the information we collect from questionnaires that we send to our friends)
@@rennnnnnnnnnnn have you ever heard of a successful gender studies student? Literally the only thing they can do afterwards is carry on and become a gender studies lecturer. That's literally it. It's about as useful as an online degree in Paranormal Investigation.
Who cares? It's 2018, almost 2019. I don't care what pronouns you use for me or what gender anyone labels themselves or others as. Call me "ew" for all I care. I'm going to wear and do whatever I want either way.
I know that it has been 2 years, but I still want to tell you this. We want everyone to see gender, not ignore it. Don't just say "I don't see gender." Say "I know what gender you are, and I respect you."
Why do we need to police the clothes people wear, the hobbies people have or the toys children play with? Smh, gender stereotypes are crazy. If a little girl wants to play with toy cars, it shouldn't be an issue. If a little boy wants to have princess dolls, whatever. They're peices of plastic, and you guys need to chill out.
That toy thing at the fast food place hit me hard.When i used to like McDonald's and would go there and order kids meals and such they would always ask what toy.Im a girl and have a younger sister and youbger brother.Me and ny brother loved the "boy"stuff and ny sister was oppisite.Whenever we got our food while inside and got the toys out of the kids me boxes a worker would come by and take the toy i had and give me a "girl"one instead.It always made me mad so I always had to go up to the counter and person who took the toy from me and ask for it back.It was frustrating.I didn't understand why they did that then but now I do and its sad.Those times that that stuff happened was when my parents weren't sexist or homophobic.Last summer is when I found out anf it really hurts me.I'm queer (I stuck with saying Bi tho most of the time,I still cant really figure out if I'm bi or pan so till I find out im queer.)and my parents don't know.They do know I love "boy" clothes and toys and don't like "girl" clothes and toy.I'm not trans,i just prefer boy stuff.My parents and brother really don't appreciate this.To them I'm wrong to be that way and not a proper human being,a slob and hobo.They want me to be more like my sister who is such a sweet girly girl but I'm not interested in the stuff she likes.I'm scared to ever talk back to them or come out and I have around 6 years before I can move out (I'm 12)I have so many supportive people in my life though,but all I want is for my parents to accept me for me but they can't.You raise your children well and I love that.I plan to raise my children to respect everyone and to be themselves.To love what they want to and dress how they want,to be nice and good citezens for being polite and helping others.
My country, Romania, was a communist country until 1989. Don't get me wrong, I hate communism, but if there's one thing it did right is creating equality between men and women in the workforce. Even today, we have the smallest salary gap between genders is Europe! Unfortunately, gender roles are still way to present in social and family life. I can see a shift in perspective in my generation, but I can't estimate how widespread it is.
Lol. I remember when I wanted the pokemon toy but they gave me some f**king bootleg looking barbie. I told my brother and he stormed back in there, demanding a pokemon toy.
True Story: Sociology Students at my school made a poster criticizing this sort of thing. They put all the My Little Pony Characters on the girls side as you might expect, but for some reason, Gummy (Pinkie's Pie's Pet Alligator was listed as a boys toy).
I'm a guy and some things I don't like about gender roles is that it's considered weak for a guy to be sensitive also why can't guys where crop tops I don't understand
1:48 i dodged a bullet from learning mysoginistic behaviors as a guy. I have a dad who would bebwilling to do household chores because he is from Shanghai, China. That specific area of China focused on gender equality because Mao ZeDong's wife is from Shanghai and he wanted more gender equality. I guess since his wife is from there Shanghainese had a sense of pride of being more progressive in gender norms and i have my dad participating in household chores. My mom is taiwanese though, and shes very traditional on gender roles though
My cousin made fun of my brother because he like teddy bear I was angry but I didn't knew what to do. Before he use to tell me he wants a room full of teddy bear but now he says he is okay with his one small teddy he doesn't want them anymore. I feel sad for him. This world is just mean.
contrived outrage. i was grew up playing with whatever i wanted, kids don't care what the box says. I would play with my sisters 'girly' toys and my own boy toys as well, who cares what it says on the box? You dont have to condition kids to see everything as gender neutral or whatever, kids do what they want and dont care
You're right, but in some cases kids are not allowed to do that. It's not uncommon for parents to only buy dolls for girls and cars for boys, and then stop them from naturally gravitating towards what they like
Kids *do* care when they learn there's right and wrong about gender. Just watch playground bullies teasing boys for wearing pink or playing with dolls (or indeed doing anything "girlish")
@@silvasilvasilva *"bullies teasing boys"* Duh!! It is a part of male hierarchy formation and it feeds into and gets feedback from female sexual selection after puberty. Personally speaking, bullying should be prevented from taking place, but healthy masculine sports and sparring with safety gear, can be instituted. Post-pubescent females do *not* chose effeminate males. They choose stronger men to *gleefully* offer their bodies to. But they choose effeminate men for non-sexual interaction, money etc.
Freedom of choice for everyone is great. To encourage people to make untraditional choices is ok. To expect there not to be group differences is naive. Frankly, this constant focus of avoiding all stereotypical behaviour at all cost, is imperilling the very concept of freedom to be whoever you want to be. I thought we had moved past these blank slate arguments? It’s certainly not a view supported by science.
I did. The premise of the video is that group differences in interests are a product of outdated stereotypes and norms, and frankly that’s not something most rigorous scholars still believe. The solution he proposes, that people should be encouraged to follow whatever they’re passionate about, is a great solution. I fully endorse that. I’m pointing out that the very same freedom that will allow you to make those choices, is the freedom that unfortunately will reproduce some differences on a group level.
I'd love to read a study if you are referring to one for my own research? I personally haven't seen many scientific papers on testing how the roles in the household affect children in terms of the jobs and hobbies they choose to pursue. Perhaps because it is very difficult to test how children are affected since there are too many variables and it requires too much time to conduct a study to see results.
Iveta Stripeikaite I didn’t get a notification, so I didn’t see your reply until I randomly browsed the comments now. I could refer to the work of scientists like Simon Baron-Cohen, but honestly there’s no point for me to write up a long post citing studies and hypothesis, as I inevitably would leave something out, and then be accused of cherry picking the studies who support my biases. In general, it’s bad practice to seek out single studies to advocate on behalf of, as it’s too easy to find something that will feed into ones own confirmation bias. I’ll advice you to review meta-analysis (and ideally meta-meta-analysis) on the topic. The group differences are well established (and unusually well replicated) cross-cultural findings in personality psychology. You’ll find no well respected psychology scholar who nowadays will advocate that gender differences in interest can be completely eradicated by cultural means. Additionally, fields like evo psych/biology, dev psych, behavioral genetics, neurosci (and so on) have made a ton of findings supportive of innate differences. There’s no way I could do any of the research justice in a simple comment. You could read “The Blank Slate” by Pinker for a fairly straightforward “Pop-Sci” take on the subject. Or you could engage with the scientific literature on the topic if you have some methodological knowledge. Either way, expecting there not to be mean differences on group level is incredibly naive. Group differences are not synonymous to individual differences, though. So in short, knowing the gender of someone will not tell you anything definitive about their interests. Yet, on a population scale, there are significant differences that can tell us something about the likelihood of having certain interests based on gender.
I love this. Unfortunately trumps base want to go back to the 50’s where “ the little women is in the kitchen “ and the man reads the paper while dinner is cooking. Yuk!
Yes thank you. My dad always let me be myself if I wanted to dress boyish that was okay if I wanted to dress girly that was okay. When I came out as bi at 13 he said "cool!" (Boy was I scared though lol) I miss my dad so much :) he really was ahead of his time!
When me and my sister was younger we would play with barbies but we never had enough man doll so we would use the women dolls as man dolls but we never dress the girls masculine we left them as is
When I was growing up, I didn't question the idea that women could be doctors or men could be dancers either. That's silly. But these 'stereotypes' being complained of largely come down to individual choices on the part of men and women. There is a large disparity in life choices that cannot be explained away as the evil influence of stereotypes. And to take the McDonald's toys complaint as an example, though in this *particular* case, with this *particular* toy, your sons might have been unhappy with it, there is actually a very strongly psychologically encoded preference for certain toys exhibited by both sexes. This has even been comprehensively observed in chimpanzees, which demonstrates how deep it goes.
Yeah when I was younger my dad cooked, cleaned, did laundry, dropped my sister and I off to school etc. just like my mom did but growing up we still had generalized ideas based on what we saw. Haha boys and girls have been raised the same since the 70s when parents couldnt spend enough time with their kids bc work so boys and girls did the exact same chores and play, and in the 90s they were both encouraged to do well in school, work, sports etc. but No matter how hard society’s gonna try to eliminate as many gender stereotypes, they’re always gonna be missing something since you can’t change how men and women are different ultimately
At least you didn't scream at the employee for pushing gender roles..a person a Twitter apparently yelled at a young McDonalds employee for asking her "is it for a boy or for a girl"
Meet your kids "where they are"? And what if where they are is conforming to gender stereotypes. What if my boys love trucks and my girls love pretty pink flowers? That's fine, right? Now, what if, on a global scale, this is what the vast majority of boys and girls tend to like, of their own volition? What if the guy who likes to do laundry and the girl who fixes mechanical stuff (which is fine and great and omg I love you! etc), is the exception and not the norm? What then? What do you tell your precious boys then!?! my guess, you'll claim the world is brainwashed by the patriarchy and etc.
Well, if you do the laundry and your wife fixes the appliances, but you still identify as a man and she as a woman, wouldn't that make the whole gender specific toys/clothes/activities poin moot? Or you might be a transwoman and your wife a transman... but never got around to properly identifying your genders because of society's norms at that time?
You HAVE to force the issue, or else it simply persists. They are actively working to combat the expectations society places on boys and girls--you cannot passively do so. Those kids are getting inundated with the opposite message every time they step out of the house or turn the tv on.
@@callies8907 Then that's their decision as individuals to make, there is no "forcing them into gender roles" if they know that the world provides them options. You don't have to "fight" or "force" against anything because if *you* raise *your* kids the right way, they'll get the point.
@@katsygirl28 A five-year-old is not an individual capable of making those decisions with any level of self-awareness and education. They ARE being forced into gender roles--when they watch Disney movies, or listen to Story Time, or walk out into the world. "Cinderella Ate My Daughter" by Peggy Orenstein or Sharon Lamb's "Packaging Girlhood" are good explorations of this. Or just pick up any Sociology 101 textbook. Your kids are affected by the world around them--often, more so than they're affected by you! Ignoring this and "not forcing the issue" will not help your kid understand how to navigate the messages they receive outside. Yeah...you do have to force the issue and bring it up and teach them that the roles they see outside are not indicative of their real capacities, and you have to be forceful about it, and that IS raising your kids "the right way."
@@callies8907 I have read "Cinderella Ate My Daughter", and I thought it was a load of bullshit. They completely disregard the studies performed for cognitive gender on infants pre-enculturation, and refuse to acknowledge their results. And as a social science major with a backing in forensics, I can tell you that Sociology is the laughing stock of the "social sciences" because most of their research is debunked as soon as Evolutionary Biologists get their hands on it. You're underestimating children and their intelligence; most, in fact , have a fully-formed personality and sense of choice by the time they're six. They will know what they as beings want to do, it's just up to the parent to grow with them.
The Atlantic, thank you for the Ah-Ha moment you just gave me. I now realize that my German Shepard, Fuzzy-Was-He, hasn't been allowed to express its own individuality and blossom into the best version of itself it can be. I've been holding it back. I shouldn't have named it Fuzzy-Was-He, that's a sexist name. I'm going to the DMV and getting its name legally changed to Fuzzy-Was-It. I can't prescribe my expectations onto it. The blue collar it wears is homophobic and oppressive. That stops today! Now, I will only dress it in gender neutral black bows and a black tutu. Instead of a sexist bone shaped tag, I'll get a gender neutral skull tag. Also, I've been violating my pet by forcing it to be categorized as a German Shepard dog. But, maybe it isn't even German! I'm going to teach it Italian. Maybe it's not even a dog! I want it to express the essence within. I think my "dog" may be a bird. Every time it sees a bird it gets excited and barks and jumps. Thanks to you, I finally realize Fuzzy-Was-It has been trying to get my attention to awaken me to the fact that it is a bird on the inside. That's it! Tonight, after getting home from my ANTIFA meeting, I'm going to the fifth story balcony of the studio apartment I share with my five roommates, and I'm throwing Fuzzy-Was-It over the balcony so I can finally see it spread it's four legs and fly like the bird it really is inside!
Classifying what men generally do and what women generally do as "gender roles" is a social construct of a privileged few. What men and women generally gravitate toward evolved as a need for survival. As early as a few hundred years ago, the mother was the only food source for the baby. If the mother died, so did baby. The men were responsible for the dangerous task of going out to gather food and hunt because they were, essentially, expendable. As a result, men evolved to be the providers. Today, men may have replaced a club with a briefcase, but it is the same concept. Women being associated with keeping the house in order was not forced upon them by bullish men. It was, again, part of evolution. Throughout history, women were responsible to do whatever they could handle while pregnant and nursing. In today's society, the equivalent would be cleaning the house and going shopping. Men, on the other hand did all the "heavy lifting". For millennia, boys were taught to be strong fearless hunters and girls were taught to be strong fearless caregivers. The children where taught this way not to satisfy the whims of a patriarchal society but to contribute to the survival of their group/tribe/clan. These lessons have been passed down from generation to generation. The lessons change based on the need for survival. These lessons are still very relevant today except for a small percentage of the worlds population who can readily afford nannies/daycare, security, shelter, food, etc. You are so immensely fortunate "privileged" if you can afford to focus on something like "gender roles". If you are one of these privileged few and you have a different perception of gender than the rest of the world - keep it to yourself because not everyone is as fortunate as you are. What you "identify" with is no ones business but your own. In my world, everything that was discussed in the video is sustainable and acceptable, but the world does not revolve around me. The guy owns a washing machine, a car, his own house and everything that comes with it. He can afford to take his kids to a restaurant to eat just because he feels like it. This may be the normal world for anyone who can afford to purchase a devise to watch this video but this guys life is anything but normal in most of the world. Oh, and please do not think your normal is better than someone else's normal. I never like when people try to force their religion on other people and it goes double when you try to force your 'normals' on people. Final thought. People who get gender reassignment are nothing more than innocent and vulnerable lab rats for manipulative, opportunistic and, often, vengeful sadists to experiment with - it's really sad.
Dont be such a soy boy. If you dont teach your boys to be strong they will get the snot kicked out of them when they get out into the real world. You are hurting them with this nonsense.
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“Meet them where they are.”
... or you just don’t get it.
"Meet them where they are" your so progressive... LMFAO
This is the 3rd time I've heard this today 🤔❤
Oh no! "everybody loves glitter" that shit gets EVERYWHERE and stays for years in crevices you never knew existed.
I was like, “Wait! Everyone HATES glitter!” lol
Christopher Roberts they're the devil's dandruff
they are the herpes of the crafting word
thus...why i hate glitter
I love glitter but you're right about the part where you'll find it behind your ear after 20 years 😂
I remember when I was younger I used to believe that pink and purple were the only "girl colors"and every other color was a " Boy color". Even freaking McDonald's has pokemon as "boy toys"! Just Gimme my Pikachu dammit!
Right?? Give me my dinosaur book!
Couldn't care less. McDonald's is trash, burger king is objectively better
I had a friend Medha. Her family was.....a bit different. Her parents always wanted a son but at first they got a daughter. But then they got a son too after a couple years. She is always treated to do stuff like cleaning, dusting and putting the dishes. She can't play, talk and even look at boys. She can only be friends with girls. She can't play sports, be soft spoken, play with dolls (but she should stop when she turns 8 cause now she is big) and she must get married as soon as she will turn 18 years. But her brother can do anything. Be friends with anyone, play sports, be Bully or whatever, be tough, shouldn't cry, not to play with girl stuff (dolls) and he doesn't need to do any chores.
Now this is my part
When I became friends with Medha, I didnt notice she was trying to change how I think. I used to play football/soccer with boys at school and used to watch DC movies. I also had many friends who were boys. She started to make me think like her. No boys no football, no blue and no marvel. But I noticed quick so I told her not to say such stuff to me. She didn't listen. She left me and went with the other girls and then became a Bully. All the girls were jealous I think Idk I just felt like that.
Before they only said mean stuff but then they started to push me and hit me. Well I had complained to our teacher so she said ignore them. But the next day Medha was gonna hit right on my eye so I blocked her hand and punched on her stomach. (I am brown 1 belt in karate) but because I hit her I got punished at school. This wasn't fair.
Now, some of u must be like, where were the boys they didn't help me?
Well, they used to bystand while I got bullied. Sometimes they would say stop but the girls would insult them. And they were pretty scared too.
I am not good in roasting people but I'll improve.
Idk why I comment the whole thing but I hope someone reads it...
My mom was straight up disappointed bc I’m not athletic like her
A child shouldn't stop playing with toys at 8, I still played with them until I was 15 and a half. I find it disgusting when people force 8-14 year olds to stop being childlike.
@@dianasmile2518 so you’re fucking telling me that I didn’t have to force myself to not play with toys at 7 because my parents said I was too old.
I’m pretty glad my boyfriend and I have pretty similar ideas about gender roles in the relationship. We both cook and clean (in fact most of our fights are about me not cleaning up my messes). I cook and shop more because I enjoy it, he does technical stuff more because enjoys that, and we take turns taking out the trash because we both hate it. :’)
There are no "boy toys" or "girl toys". They are just toys.
Super dumb
Exactly!
Right
I hated when I go to McDonald’s and they asked me if I’m a girl or a boy because I never liked girls one tho I am one. I was so ashamed that I wasn’t fit in the gender stereotype. Now I’m super proud of myself for being tomboy.
I was babysitting a girl at a park and then a little boy came up too play with us; idk remember how the question came up but he said, “Can boy do girl stuff?” I of course said yes. And that it would be perfectly fine is he wanted to wear makeup and traditionally feminine clothing. He asked me to braid his hair after that, he was a sweet kid
i’m sad he even calls it “girl stuff”. it should just be stuff you either like or you don’t. things and activities and personalities are not supposed to have a gender ://
No one on earth shud wear makeup, makeup shud be illegal
@@alezzziia bro. Personality has nothing to do with this. Kids do not know how the world works. When they're growing up their environment shapes them. So when it comes to gender thy classify between the two as 'boy' or 'girl' stuff based on theirr perspective on things. ://
“Everybody loves glitter” hell yeah! David Bowie would be proud! ✨✨✨
Yes
If that story is true, that's ridiculous that they would have assigned toys for the gender of the kid.
Why don't they just straight up ask the kid if they want a coloring book or a yo-yo?
So boys and girls are different because of how they were taken care of at a young age. PARENTS CAN YA’LL MAKE US EQUAL?
That's pseudo science bs
I remember lying about my gender at mcdonalds to get the toys I liked better all the time.
McDonalds food tastes like garbage, fact
I hate this romanticization of 50's America that so many people seem to have... newsflash- the 50's wasnt all sockhops and poodle skirts.
My parents mean well, but they’re stuck in old habits unfortunately. And since I’ve grown up in that atmosphere I’ve picked up the same habits. But I’m doing my best to break them. 👍🏻
You really don't have to for the sake of it. You can do whatever you want, provided you have a good enough reason and that it's legal.
@@BoraCM ...
yes taking it inna positive way i feel I'm learning not to be so when my under responsibility😔that's what i want to learn from this behaviour of theirs.!
I love this!! I think people underestimate the power they have to influence their children's idea of sex/gender and it ultimately leads to a possible lifetime of guilt-shaming nonsense!! Let kids be free and let them be happy :-)
In my family , mom always asks me and my sis to do household chores whereas my brother he gets to relax all day. If I argue about this my mom will say " now he will do dishes for u" I was so disappointed at her. My dad takes my side. And my brother says in name of equality u want to do anything. I think he has some other definition of quality.
Sweet baby Jesus, please send my way a man this mature and this evolved! In this age of rusty, bitter little sycophants running around everywhere, it's nice to be reminded that gems like this man still exist.
Still exist? I think they're more common now than in the past, because men are increasingly questioning the way things were before.
@@altruisticflower9627 thank heavens for that 🌸
I get where OP is coming from. People's shitty beliefs are all over the internet for us to see everyday. And the more the shitty the take someone has, the more controversy and hype it gathers. To summarise, being on the internet makes me feel like the world is burning itself down lmao.
But I know... I think that things are not that bad. Men and women, just people in general, are definitely a lot more open to questioning gender roles and norms. And that is great!
That is probably also why "take us back to a time when women were slaves to our every whim!" kinda people seem so loud and jarring today. More progress means opposition gets louder.
@@Toledo2763 Try living in the Deep South.
It feels like it because people on internet are totally crazy for some reason.
@@Toledo2763 try living in latin america
i remember mcdonald’s did hot wheel cars for boys and hello kitty thing for the girls and i would always go for the cars, yes im a girl
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I'm actually writing a paper about the connection between gender and expectations about romantic love, and as background information I had to write about some theories about love and gender. Most of my theories about gender and gender development are focused about the parents' influence on gender development. And it's really interesting to me, bc most of them say the same things with different words.
That sounds very interesting! What is your paper for?
Arunima Tiwari it's a part of my final in psychology! We have 2 big tests and a paper (a big part of it is based on the information we collect from questionnaires that we send to our friends)
I can't wait for you to serve me coffee in Starbucks when your useless Gender Studies "degree" is over. xD
@@Fireglo ????
@@rennnnnnnnnnnn have you ever heard of a successful gender studies student? Literally the only thing they can do afterwards is carry on and become a gender studies lecturer. That's literally it. It's about as useful as an online degree in Paranormal Investigation.
'what they see from me and from their mother as a society is important' yes! leading by example
Who cares? It's 2018, almost 2019. I don't care what pronouns you use for me or what gender anyone labels themselves or others as. Call me "ew" for all I care. I'm going to wear and do whatever I want either way.
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
also 'ew' is the best pronoun. Your _mind,_ OP!
I know that it has been 2 years, but I still want to tell you this.
We want everyone to see gender, not ignore it. Don't just say "I don't see gender." Say "I know what gender you are, and I respect you."
@@hilol4049 nah,we should ignore gender
Why do we need to police the clothes people wear, the hobbies people have or the toys children play with? Smh, gender stereotypes are crazy. If a little girl wants to play with toy cars, it shouldn't be an issue. If a little boy wants to have princess dolls, whatever. They're peices of plastic, and you guys need to chill out.
2:37 look at the legs of the boy on the left.
That looks unhealthy. Who does this?
His legs are the wrong way around
It's not unhealthy. I used to do it all the time.
What an internal outrage most families don’t live in 50s gender roles anymore..smh
That toy thing at the fast food place hit me hard.When i used to like McDonald's and would go there and order kids meals and such they would always ask what toy.Im a girl and have a younger sister and youbger brother.Me and ny brother loved the "boy"stuff and ny sister was oppisite.Whenever we got our food while inside and got the toys out of the kids me boxes a worker would come by and take the toy i had and give me a "girl"one instead.It always made me mad so I always had to go up to the counter and person who took the toy from me and ask for it back.It was frustrating.I didn't understand why they did that then but now I do and its sad.Those times that that stuff happened was when my parents weren't sexist or homophobic.Last summer is when I found out anf it really hurts me.I'm queer (I stuck with saying Bi tho most of the time,I still cant really figure out if I'm bi or pan so till I find out im queer.)and my parents don't know.They do know I love "boy" clothes and toys and don't like "girl" clothes and toy.I'm not trans,i just prefer boy stuff.My parents and brother really don't appreciate this.To them I'm wrong to be that way and not a proper human being,a slob and hobo.They want me to be more like my sister who is such a sweet girly girl but I'm not interested in the stuff she likes.I'm scared to ever talk back to them or come out and I have around 6 years before I can move out (I'm 12)I have so many supportive people in my life though,but all I want is for my parents to accept me for me but they can't.You raise your children well and I love that.I plan to raise my children to respect everyone and to be themselves.To love what they want to and dress how they want,to be nice and good citezens for being polite and helping others.
i got my views from the internet when i was young i used to think like my parents i'm so glad i don't anymore
Cool that u do that at home but how the media, society is gonna shape them is another story
Thaťs why he should care, to make sure the boys don't get only the message spread by people who'd rather live back in the 1950's.
... he got his story on the Atlantic UA-cam channel. He has a small say in what the media produces since he's a journalist.
I think that acknowledging that was partly the point of the video.
@@alisonlaett9625 Exactly. "Meet them where they are", as he said.
Mônica exactly lol he clearly missed that.
My country, Romania, was a communist country until 1989. Don't get me wrong, I hate communism, but if there's one thing it did right is creating equality between men and women in the workforce. Even today, we have the smallest salary gap between genders is Europe!
Unfortunately, gender roles are still way to present in social and family life. I can see a shift in perspective in my generation, but I can't estimate how widespread it is.
*until 1989
@@γιουργια
Yup. Thanks! I corrected the typo
My mom was also way better at putting furniture together and dad mainly cooked dinner
Aren't women expected to do both?
Not anymore fam
My life is a lie! We all live in these stereotypes! We are controlled by them!
Mcdonalds made pokemon toys for happy meals assigned to boys. Such total sexism.
Its also a shame because pokemon is supposed to be gender neutral
Lol. I remember when I wanted the pokemon toy but they gave me some f**king bootleg looking barbie. I told my brother and he stormed back in there, demanding a pokemon toy.
This is fine. But if you have two boys that are play fighting, you shouldn't condemn or punish them for it.
I hated the girls toys in happy meals. They always sucked compared to boy toys which were the coolest
my teacher told me to write 5 pages from this, and idk what to start😭
True Story: Sociology Students at my school made a poster criticizing this sort of thing. They put all the My Little Pony Characters on the girls side as you might expect, but for some reason, Gummy (Pinkie's Pie's Pet Alligator was listed as a boys toy).
When we went to McDonalds I would ask my mom to say the happy meal was for a girl since I often wanted the toys they had for girls. So embarrassing.
I'm a guy and some things I don't like about gender roles is that it's considered weak for a guy to be sensitive also why can't guys where crop tops I don't understand
The original word husband is to live in a house. Husbandry means to care for the household,
I wish if this reaches my parents somehow and influences them !!😣
As a girl, I do not like glitter or colouring anything at all.
n that’s perfectly fine :D
OMG when I'm watching TV I notice how many times they say boy/girl instead of kid & it's like holy crap 3 year old me told y'all so
Wait every body loves GLITTER?!?!?!?!?!?
Nah glitter gets everywhere I hate it!
Me too.
"Is it for a boy or a girl"?
We'd like the soyboy option thanks.
Exactly, so cringe.
You know how rare that is that it works out like that
Love that everyone loves glitter
eh, you know that's not true. I don't like glitter.
that shit gets EVERYWHERE and stays for years in crevices you never knew existed.
I hate glitter, that stuff is pretty much immortal.
That filthy dust is hated. I despise it. That thing gets all in my eyes!
1:48 i dodged a bullet from learning mysoginistic behaviors as a guy. I have a dad who would bebwilling to do household chores because he is from Shanghai, China. That specific area of China focused on gender equality because Mao ZeDong's wife is from Shanghai and he wanted more gender equality. I guess since his wife is from there Shanghainese had a sense of pride of being more progressive in gender norms and i have my dad participating in household chores.
My mom is taiwanese though, and shes very traditional on gender roles though
I grow up thinking that being gay was and is normal thanks to my uncle Tony and uncle dean
One thing in the fast food restaurant a colouring book in not for girls and a yo yo it not for boys
Thank god my parents told me I could be any job I wanted to become
My cousin made fun of my brother because he like teddy bear I was angry but I didn't knew what to do. Before he use to tell me he wants a room full of teddy bear but now he says he is okay with his one small teddy he doesn't want them anymore. I feel sad for him. This world is just mean.
contrived outrage. i was grew up playing with whatever i wanted, kids don't care what the box says. I would play with my sisters 'girly' toys and my own boy toys as well, who cares what it says on the box? You dont have to condition kids to see everything as gender neutral or whatever, kids do what they want and dont care
You're right, but in some cases kids are not allowed to do that. It's not uncommon for parents to only buy dolls for girls and cars for boys, and then stop them from naturally gravitating towards what they like
Kids *do* care when they learn there's right and wrong about gender. Just watch playground bullies teasing boys for wearing pink or playing with dolls (or indeed doing anything "girlish")
@@silvasilvasilva
*"bullies teasing boys"*
Duh!! It is a part of male hierarchy formation and it feeds into and gets feedback from female sexual selection after puberty.
Personally speaking, bullying should be prevented from taking place, but healthy masculine sports and sparring with safety gear, can be instituted.
Post-pubescent females do *not* chose effeminate males. They choose stronger men to *gleefully* offer their bodies to. But they choose effeminate men for non-sexual interaction, money etc.
@@simplehealthyliving4681 Thaťs not what's being discussed here.
@@silvasilvasilva but it's true... 🤷🏾♂️
Strict gender roles support and are supported by modern capitalism.
Socialism is theft
No they don't where do you get this shit from?
*_the proletariat must seize the means of production_*
This was a wonderful video.
I love this yes thank you 😊 keep doing what you are doing
Totally agree with you.
My father doesn’t let my brothers wear pink 😭. I’m scared for them.
So what happens when a spider walks into the room?
Kill it.
Kill it. Those things are nightmares in creature form. It must feel the wrath of your sneakers.
Nothing
Take it outside and hope it doesn’t die?
Hahaha so funny 🤡🤡🤡
i love this!!
Good video. Don't do anything in the name of gender roles, do it in the name of your children 👌👌
Very well spoken
There are 244 dislikes wtf is wrong with you peeps.
ooof I remember the drive through toy bs 🙈
Freedom of choice for everyone is great. To encourage people to make untraditional choices is ok. To expect there not to be group differences is naive. Frankly, this constant focus of avoiding all stereotypical behaviour at all cost, is imperilling the very concept of freedom to be whoever you want to be. I thought we had moved past these blank slate arguments? It’s certainly not a view supported by science.
Using facts and intelligence with proper spelling. Is that allowed? How long is the jail sentence for that? Is it only probation?
I did. The premise of the video is that group differences in interests are a product of outdated stereotypes and norms, and frankly that’s not something most rigorous scholars still believe. The solution he proposes, that people should be encouraged to follow whatever they’re passionate about, is a great solution. I fully endorse that. I’m pointing out that the very same freedom that will allow you to make those choices, is the freedom that unfortunately will reproduce some differences on a group level.
I'd love to read a study if you are referring to one for my own research? I personally haven't seen many scientific papers on testing how the roles in the household affect children in terms of the jobs and hobbies they choose to pursue. Perhaps because it is very difficult to test how children are affected since there are too many variables and it requires too much time to conduct a study to see results.
What is this science you speak of, O enlightened one?
Iveta Stripeikaite
I didn’t get a notification, so I didn’t see your reply until I randomly browsed the comments now. I could refer to the work of scientists like Simon Baron-Cohen, but honestly there’s no point for me to write up a long post citing studies and hypothesis, as I inevitably would leave something out, and then be accused of cherry picking the studies who support my biases. In general, it’s bad practice to seek out single studies to advocate on behalf of, as it’s too easy to find something that will feed into ones own confirmation bias. I’ll advice you to review meta-analysis (and ideally meta-meta-analysis) on the topic. The group differences are well established (and unusually well replicated) cross-cultural findings in personality psychology. You’ll find no well respected psychology scholar who nowadays will advocate that gender differences in interest can be completely eradicated by cultural means. Additionally, fields like evo psych/biology, dev psych, behavioral genetics, neurosci (and so on) have made a ton of findings supportive of innate differences. There’s no way I could do any of the research justice in a simple comment. You could read “The Blank Slate” by Pinker for a fairly straightforward “Pop-Sci” take on the subject. Or you could engage with the scientific literature on the topic if you have some methodological knowledge. Either way, expecting there not to be mean differences on group level is incredibly naive. Group differences are not synonymous to individual differences, though. So in short, knowing the gender of someone will not tell you anything definitive about their interests. Yet, on a population scale, there are significant differences that can tell us something about the likelihood of having certain interests based on gender.
I love this. Unfortunately trumps base want to go back to the 50’s where “ the little women is in the kitchen “ and the man reads the paper while dinner is cooking. Yuk!
What if they both want that??? They can't do it because you say yuck? Good reason...
Geo Hurtado they'll still have the freedom to do so
@@davidc5867 My point exactly
@@AfricaGeo oh ok sorry I guess?
Who cares about that - live your own life
Yes thank you. My dad always let me be myself if I wanted to dress boyish that was okay if I wanted to dress girly that was okay. When I came out as bi at 13 he said "cool!" (Boy was I scared though lol) I miss my dad so much :) he really was ahead of his time!
When me and my sister was younger we would play with barbies but we never had enough man doll so we would use the women dolls as man dolls but we never dress the girls masculine we left them as is
whos here cuz of the teacher?
I like the animation
2:22 But it should be supervised.. 😏
When I was growing up, I didn't question the idea that women could be doctors or men could be dancers either. That's silly. But these 'stereotypes' being complained of largely come down to individual choices on the part of men and women. There is a large disparity in life choices that cannot be explained away as the evil influence of stereotypes.
And to take the McDonald's toys complaint as an example, though in this *particular* case, with this *particular* toy, your sons might have been unhappy with it, there is actually a very strongly psychologically encoded preference for certain toys exhibited by both sexes. This has even been comprehensively observed in chimpanzees, which demonstrates how deep it goes.
Sources or it didn't happen.
Yeah when I was younger my dad cooked, cleaned, did laundry, dropped my sister and I off to school etc. just like my mom did but growing up we still had generalized ideas based on what we saw. Haha boys and girls have been raised the same since the 70s when parents couldnt spend enough time with their kids bc work so boys and girls did the exact same chores and play, and in the 90s they were both encouraged to do well in school, work, sports etc. but No matter how hard society’s gonna try to eliminate as many gender stereotypes, they’re always gonna be missing something since you can’t change how men and women are different ultimately
At least you didn't scream at the employee for pushing gender roles..a person a Twitter apparently yelled at a young McDonalds employee for asking her "is it for a boy or for a girl"
Lead by example
love it!
Don't know about the subject but I like the animation, so kudos to the animators.🙂
So true
0.09 that guy had his foot sickled, Im a dancer and that looks ugly in ballet
Meet your kids "where they are"? And what if where they are is conforming to gender stereotypes. What if my boys love trucks and my girls love pretty pink flowers? That's fine, right? Now, what if, on a global scale, this is what the vast majority of boys and girls tend to like, of their own volition? What if the guy who likes to do laundry and the girl who fixes mechanical stuff (which is fine and great and omg I love you! etc), is the exception and not the norm? What then? What do you tell your precious boys then!?! my guess, you'll claim the world is brainwashed by the patriarchy and etc.
not in arepublian usa or africa
Showed this video to my wife's boyfriend. He gave me a half smile! Black friend: acquired!
But masculine guys and feminine ladies are popular with others.
Except for the tons of “not like other girls” posts
Nah, feminine Women suck,i want a woman who is strong,fixes cars and can drink 2 bottles of whiskey in a row
You can tell his wife is cheating on him
lol
You can tell you've not experienced a mutually rewarding relationship. Careful, your bias is showing.
He's just a red pilled incel, don't pay attention to him
@@lodgin
Hopefully they all hurry up and take the black pill so we won't have to deal with people like him anymore.
I took the rainbow pill.
Well, if you do the laundry and your wife fixes the appliances, but you still identify as a man and she as a woman, wouldn't that make the whole gender specific toys/clothes/activities poin moot? Or you might be a transwoman and your wife a transman... but never got around to properly identifying your genders because of society's norms at that time?
All these poor people in the comments who don't know their gender
Obviously it’s great to break these notions. But let’s not force the issue okay.
You HAVE to force the issue, or else it simply persists. They are actively working to combat the expectations society places on boys and girls--you cannot passively do so. Those kids are getting inundated with the opposite message every time they step out of the house or turn the tv on.
@@callies8907 Then that's their decision as individuals to make, there is no "forcing them into gender roles" if they know that the world provides them options. You don't have to "fight" or "force" against anything because if *you* raise *your* kids the right way, they'll get the point.
@@katsygirl28 A five-year-old is not an individual capable of making those decisions with any level of self-awareness and education. They ARE being forced into gender roles--when they watch Disney movies, or listen to Story Time, or walk out into the world. "Cinderella Ate My Daughter" by Peggy Orenstein or Sharon Lamb's "Packaging Girlhood" are good explorations of this. Or just pick up any Sociology 101 textbook. Your kids are affected by the world around them--often, more so than they're affected by you! Ignoring this and "not forcing the issue" will not help your kid understand how to navigate the messages they receive outside. Yeah...you do have to force the issue and bring it up and teach them that the roles they see outside are not indicative of their real capacities, and you have to be forceful about it, and that IS raising your kids "the right way."
@@callies8907 I have read "Cinderella Ate My Daughter", and I thought it was a load of bullshit. They completely disregard the studies performed for cognitive gender on infants pre-enculturation, and refuse to acknowledge their results.
And as a social science major with a backing in forensics, I can tell you that Sociology is the laughing stock of the "social sciences" because most of their research is debunked as soon as Evolutionary Biologists get their hands on it.
You're underestimating children and their intelligence; most, in fact , have a fully-formed personality and sense of choice by the time they're six. They will know what they as beings want to do, it's just up to the parent to grow with them.
Disagree.... this is most of what's wrong with millennial males now! It's like nobody ever told them that men need to work and make money....
Mothers need to be paid wages by society for bearing and nurturing future generations.
I don't want to reply to the stupid part of your comment, but why is everyone saying "male" instead of boy/man ? What are you, a doctor ?
How is doing chores at home and/or wanting a colouring book instead of a yo-yo teaching anyone they don't need to work to make money...?
ADULTS need to work and make money. Not just men. We're teaching everyone that they need to work for the things/ need
You can tell them that.
In this relationship he is beta daddy
The Atlantic, thank you for the Ah-Ha moment you just gave me. I now realize that my German Shepard, Fuzzy-Was-He, hasn't been allowed to express its own individuality and blossom into the best version of itself it can be. I've been holding it back.
I shouldn't have named it Fuzzy-Was-He, that's a sexist name. I'm going to the DMV and getting its name legally changed to Fuzzy-Was-It. I can't prescribe my expectations onto it.
The blue collar it wears is homophobic and oppressive. That stops today! Now, I will only dress it in gender neutral black bows and a black tutu. Instead of a sexist bone shaped tag, I'll get a gender neutral skull tag.
Also, I've been violating my pet by forcing it to be categorized as a German Shepard dog. But, maybe it isn't even German! I'm going to teach it Italian. Maybe it's not even a dog! I want it to express the essence within. I think my "dog" may be a bird. Every time it sees a bird it gets excited and barks and jumps. Thanks to you, I finally realize Fuzzy-Was-It has been trying to get my attention to awaken me to the fact that it is a bird on the inside.
That's it! Tonight, after getting home from my ANTIFA meeting, I'm going to the fifth story balcony of the studio apartment I share with my five roommates, and I'm throwing Fuzzy-Was-It over the balcony so I can finally see it spread it's four legs and fly like the bird it really is inside!
Why are you so triggered?
Classifying what men generally do and what women generally do as "gender roles" is a social construct of a privileged few. What men and women generally gravitate toward evolved as a need for survival. As early as a few hundred years ago, the mother was the only food source for the baby. If the mother died, so did baby. The men were responsible for the dangerous task of going out to gather food and hunt because they were, essentially, expendable. As a result, men evolved to be the providers. Today, men may have replaced a club with a briefcase, but it is the same concept.
Women being associated with keeping the house in order was not forced upon them by bullish men. It was, again, part of evolution. Throughout history, women were responsible to do whatever they could handle while pregnant and nursing. In today's society, the equivalent would be cleaning the house and going shopping. Men, on the other hand did all the "heavy lifting".
For millennia, boys were taught to be strong fearless hunters and girls were taught to be strong fearless caregivers. The children where taught this way not to satisfy the whims of a patriarchal society but to contribute to the survival of their group/tribe/clan. These lessons have been passed down from generation to generation. The lessons change based on the need for survival. These lessons are still very relevant today except for a small percentage of the worlds population who can readily afford nannies/daycare, security, shelter, food, etc.
You are so immensely fortunate "privileged" if you can afford to focus on something like "gender roles". If you are one of these privileged few and you have a different perception of gender than the rest of the world - keep it to yourself because not everyone is as fortunate as you are. What you "identify" with is no ones business but your own.
In my world, everything that was discussed in the video is sustainable and acceptable, but the world does not revolve around me. The guy owns a washing machine, a car, his own house and everything that comes with it. He can afford to take his kids to a restaurant to eat just because he feels like it. This may be the normal world for anyone who can afford to purchase a devise to watch this video but this guys life is anything but normal in most of the world. Oh, and please do not think your normal is better than someone else's normal. I never like when people try to force their religion on other people and it goes double when you try to force your 'normals' on people.
Final thought. People who get gender reassignment are nothing more than innocent and vulnerable lab rats for manipulative, opportunistic and, often, vengeful sadists to experiment with - it's really sad.
This guy is the ultimate cuk
incel
It is hilarious to me that you consider that to be an insult.
@MrHotPinkBanana voyeurism ftw!
As a trans person I find this idiotic
Probably because you didn't have to grow up with the crap thaťs directed at your present gender.
Dont be such a soy boy. If you dont teach your boys to be strong they will get the snot kicked out of them when they get out into the real world. You are hurting them with this nonsense.
Let the man raise his kids how ever he wants. At the end of the day, they're not your kids.
Okay but, u can also teach a girl to defend herself.
@@incognito6446 mhm
Mostly Biology
Ah yes, because of biology girls shouldn't play with cars and boys shouldn't like flowers 🤡
you know what, i bet his boys didn't care which toy they got. i think the dad was making it an issue
SJW
Modern chaotic roles don't work. See statistics of single mothers.
“Chaotic roles” found the Jordan Peterson fan.
Boys wanting "girl" toys? Smh
What's wrong with a boy wanting a girl toy? If it was the other way around, you would've had no problems with it.
@@rennnnnnnnnnnn yes they would, I think you're confusing tradionalists with feminists.
Ahemm Ahemmmmm ... Boring! !! .. Ahem hem ... This is getting tedious ..
Ahem
So both your kids wanted girl toys....maybe u are influencing them to be odd
what's wrong in that !? you still seem outdated !
Who let this dude make this video? A bunch of waffling.