How did HHH squash Carmello - He's still a rookie. And last I checked Carmello failed to get over with the audience, in his matches with Cody Rhodes or his BEST OF 7. And last I checked HHH's NXT with HBK built Carmello? No? HHH gave him a BEST OF 7 series that built Benoit and Booker T... so at what point are you d*mb fans gonna stop cherry picking reality and put the onus on the FANS who aren't getting them over and the talents who failed to capitalize as well? Correction - American fans aren't getting over with their stupid AEW vs WWE rivalrly that is everywhere in their culture from SYNDER VS GUNN to politicians.. its pathetic.. because Europe and Canada know how to POP the stars. This attitude that talents are just OWED success is some weak ass arrested development thinking.
Lol people just cant seem to understand that HHH just really isnt a great booker. Look what he did with the Otis Gable storyline. Went nowhere, did nothing for either guy. Ruined DIY, i mean what is Karrion Kross really doing at this point. Punk can make anything work, same with Drew.. and Bloodline has been the same thing for 4 years and a Vince idea so. Idk
@ your entire logic is based on the immediate with no ability for foresight McMahon had Gable as shorty G and wasted Otis MIB The fact is the Alpha academy are elevated jobbers You all expecting every wrestler to be a star exposes your immaturity The stuff you guys should be worried about is despite the current cultural climate why are the American made wrestlers portrayed as heels and goofs?
It's not HHH's fault they can't wrestle and give us 5⭐ bangers. HHH is the best booker and businessman. We want PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING and not "sports entertainment" and Hunter gives us that. He listens to intelligent fans like us.
Triple H is a lazy booker and NXT Black and Gold was overrated. He inherited a booming market from Vince since Vince's final year was when the current record breaking started once COVID restrictions were lifted.
Lashley just sucks. He can't wrestle. He can't give 5⭐ bangers. Vince tried to destroy our great sport PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING with "sports entertainment", no wonder he liked Lashley.
Even though I thought the Hurt syndicate still had something left in them before they left WWE, when looking at it from different perspectives, I think it was mostly about their ages why Triple H let them go, since all 3 are in their 40’s. Also, with the developmental system, they always got young talent coming up from NXT on regular basis, so I highly doubt it had anything to do with race or anything like that. Remember as well, Triple H reached out to Swerve about possibly coming back, which he wouldn’t have done if he really was a racist, nor would he have signed Jade Cargill either. So MVP and anyone else can believe whatever they want, but when they regularly have young talent coming up from NXT, it’s understandable that Triple H would want to give the young talent those spots.
McMahon did "sports entertainment". HHH does what we intelligent fans want, PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING. He pushes athletic wrestlers who give us 5⭐ bangers. HHH is the best 👑 Acknowledge him ☝️
So basically what MVP just said was - "Hey as a former convict I was down with McMahon's operations and all the illegel sh*t he was doing. Was I involved? no. But did I benefit? Yes. Now Triple H... he's kinda racist" Honestly I'm kind of sick of listening to the Black Community lose their minds when SOME black talents are not being pushed despite tons of others who are. Do I think HHH in the past, IN HIS YOUTH, was an arrogant bully who may have crossed the line racially with talents like Mark Henry - Yes. HHH reminded me of the most popular guy in a frat house and he picked on EVERYONE. And HHH spent two decades from the new millennium up to the 2020's being hated on for his antics and mechinations. I was one of those harsh critiques. But here's the fact - he stepped up and followed through on his goal, earning his spot. And he did it as he told CM Punk he would in their epic promo. Do I think he's grown as a person - Yes. He's in his 50's and he's gone through a lot, from having kids, to his heart attack, to being responsible for other people's careers and well being. And I think he's beholden to a certain fraternity order who's esoteric symbolism he openly wears, and he has to conduct himself by their tenets. I think the Street Prophets being used as an example is - weak. The fact is a lot of the audience, despite the hype surrounding him, do not like Monetz Ford as a personality... sure he's physically talented be he's OBNIXIOUSLY arrogant, a hollywood celebrity wannabe, a trend following poser and he's out shined by his wife. He looks like Norm Smiley trying to be a GQ model for the "Hunger Games" At least with Rollins and Lynch you knew there was absurdity element to their gimmick, Monetz wants to be fashionista. And so far only Damien Priest has been able to pull that off because he keeps his private life and professional life seperate with Kayfabe. and the truth is I think D'Angelo is the better investment. And Carmello out shines Monetz. Same goes for the LWO and Zelina Vega. Overrated. It doesn't matter if part of the audience want to push DEI agendas, they haven't earn it yet. Once they truly get over with the audience at the level people are projecting them to be at, and start moving merch, while proving to be assets outside the ring, as well as in. They maybe. But I wouldn't expect ADHD GQ or ONLYFANS Zelina to gain too much in the near future. They use social media and express a mentality of entitlement only allowed in AEW.
If I had to guess if HHH had his way during EC3 era, you would've seen him alongside Robert Roode and Samoa Joe as HHH's new authority. HHH explored it a little with Samoa Joe but it seems that Vince curbed Joe's rise to further facilitate his investment in Roman Reigns, which proved to not be a Sunk cost fallacy. I always saw EC3, when in the role of a heel, he's the ideal management stooge. I high-end stooge but a stooge none the less - the way Orton and Kane were for the earlier version of the Authority. I think Vince over looking EC3 and Roode's potential was a strategic error that was only compensated by Vince's codependency for Lesnar and Cena.
@Spoeism it's been well-documented so you're the one with the Papa H revision history since Vince kept giving Joe a push as a top heel despite the injuries
He's blaming Triple h but we'll see what that hypocrite Tony Khan does with him.....because I only see him having these mid title reigns with that stupid TNT title
MVP and Lashley aren't good in the ring. They don't give us real wrestling fans what we want, classics and 5⭐ bangers. HHH ensures the workrate is top level and I'm glad those oldtimers are gone. I acknowledge HHH, he's the best ☝️👑🐐
After Triple H just ruined Street Profits title shot & squashed Carmelo Hayes… MVP & Bobby Lashley look more justified in leaving WWE. 🤷🏽♂️
💯 🎯
How did HHH squash Carmello - He's still a rookie.
And last I checked Carmello failed to get over with the audience, in his matches with Cody Rhodes or his BEST OF 7.
And last I checked HHH's NXT with HBK built Carmello? No?
HHH gave him a BEST OF 7 series that built Benoit and Booker T... so at what point are you d*mb fans gonna stop cherry picking reality and put the onus on the FANS who aren't getting them over and the talents who failed to capitalize as well?
Correction - American fans aren't getting over with their stupid AEW vs WWE rivalrly that is everywhere in their culture from SYNDER VS GUNN to politicians.. its pathetic.. because Europe and Canada know how to POP the stars.
This attitude that talents are just OWED success is some weak ass arrested development thinking.
Lol people just cant seem to understand that HHH just really isnt a great booker. Look what he did with the Otis Gable storyline. Went nowhere, did nothing for either guy. Ruined DIY, i mean what is Karrion Kross really doing at this point. Punk can make anything work, same with Drew.. and Bloodline has been the same thing for 4 years and a Vince idea so. Idk
@ your entire logic is based on the immediate with no ability for foresight
McMahon had Gable as shorty G and wasted Otis MIB
The fact is the Alpha academy are elevated jobbers
You all expecting every wrestler to be a star exposes your immaturity
The stuff you guys should be worried about is despite the current cultural climate why are the American made wrestlers portrayed as heels and goofs?
It's not HHH's fault they can't wrestle and give us 5⭐ bangers. HHH is the best booker and businessman. We want PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING and not "sports entertainment" and Hunter gives us that. He listens to intelligent fans like us.
If you look at the bookings of Rey Mysterio, LWO, The Street Profits, and Zelina Vega, Carmelo Hayes.I mean, it makes you wonder.
Triple H is a lazy booker and NXT Black and Gold was overrated. He inherited a booming market from Vince since Vince's final year was when the current record breaking started once COVID restrictions were lifted.
Tripple H flogged the bloodline story to such an extent there is no room for anything else....😢
The Bloodline storyline jumped the shark and now it's not even bumping the declining SD tv viewership
Vince preferred Lashley. He’s Vince’s ideal body type. Which probably made Lashley prefer Vince
Lashley just sucks. He can't wrestle. He can't give 5⭐ bangers. Vince tried to destroy our great sport PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING with "sports entertainment", no wonder he liked Lashley.
Even though I thought the Hurt syndicate still had something left in them before they left WWE, when looking at it from different perspectives, I think it was mostly about their ages why Triple H let them go, since all 3 are in their 40’s. Also, with the developmental system, they always got young talent coming up from NXT on regular basis, so I highly doubt it had anything to do with race or anything like that. Remember as well, Triple H reached out to Swerve about possibly coming back, which he wouldn’t have done if he really was a racist, nor would he have signed Jade Cargill either. So MVP and anyone else can believe whatever they want, but when they regularly have young talent coming up from NXT, it’s understandable that Triple H would want to give the young talent those spots.
You gotta look like a Nordic conqueror to reach the top of papa h mountain
What you talkin bout EC3…you were FIRST 24/7 CHAMPION
EC3 was ruined by WWE 😢
Nah sadly ec3 ruined ec3 with all his dumb remarks during that CYN period lol ill never get why he didnt go back to TNA though.
Featherstone translations… old - ode ….earth - errrff … shoulder - Showder
Hhh push jobbers Vince push stars
McMahon did "sports entertainment". HHH does what we intelligent fans want, PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING. He pushes athletic wrestlers who give us 5⭐ bangers. HHH is the best 👑 Acknowledge him ☝️
Hhh was an overhyped mid he doesn't want anyone to get above mid besides roman and rock who is on head now
So basically what MVP just said was - "Hey as a former convict I was down with McMahon's operations and all the illegel sh*t he was doing. Was I involved? no. But did I benefit? Yes. Now Triple H... he's kinda racist"
Honestly I'm kind of sick of listening to the Black Community lose their minds when SOME black talents are not being pushed despite tons of others who are.
Do I think HHH in the past, IN HIS YOUTH, was an arrogant bully who may have crossed the line racially with talents like Mark Henry - Yes.
HHH reminded me of the most popular guy in a frat house and he picked on EVERYONE.
And HHH spent two decades from the new millennium up to the 2020's being hated on for his antics and mechinations.
I was one of those harsh critiques.
But here's the fact - he stepped up and followed through on his goal, earning his spot. And he did it as he told CM Punk he would in their epic promo.
Do I think he's grown as a person - Yes.
He's in his 50's and he's gone through a lot, from having kids, to his heart attack, to being responsible for other people's careers and well being.
And I think he's beholden to a certain fraternity order who's esoteric symbolism he openly wears, and he has to conduct himself by their tenets.
I think the Street Prophets being used as an example is - weak.
The fact is a lot of the audience, despite the hype surrounding him, do not like Monetz Ford as a personality... sure he's physically talented be he's OBNIXIOUSLY arrogant, a hollywood celebrity wannabe, a trend following poser and he's out shined by his wife.
He looks like Norm Smiley trying to be a GQ model for the "Hunger Games" At least with Rollins and Lynch you knew there was absurdity element to their gimmick, Monetz wants to be fashionista. And so far only Damien Priest has been able to pull that off because he keeps his private life and professional life seperate with Kayfabe.
and the truth is I think D'Angelo is the better investment.
And Carmello out shines Monetz.
Same goes for the LWO and Zelina Vega. Overrated. It doesn't matter if part of the audience want to push DEI agendas, they haven't earn it yet.
Once they truly get over with the audience at the level people are projecting them to be at, and start moving merch, while proving to be assets outside the ring, as well as in. They maybe.
But I wouldn't expect ADHD GQ or ONLYFANS Zelina to gain too much in the near future. They use social media and express a mentality of entitlement only allowed in AEW.
You're fired dead Vince 0 The end dead
What ????
Speak English are you from the Bizarro world?
If I had to guess if HHH had his way during EC3 era, you would've seen him alongside Robert Roode and Samoa Joe as HHH's new authority.
HHH explored it a little with Samoa Joe but it seems that Vince curbed Joe's rise to further facilitate his investment in Roman Reigns, which proved to not be a Sunk cost fallacy.
I always saw EC3, when in the role of a heel, he's the ideal management stooge. I high-end stooge but a stooge none the less - the way Orton and Kane were for the earlier version of the Authority.
I think Vince over looking EC3 and Roode's potential was a strategic error that was only compensated by Vince's codependency for Lesnar and Cena.
Samoa Joe kept getting injured. EC3 unfortunately was not liked by Vince and we know how that ends up (ex: Christian)
@ Joe got injured after being shelved don’t reinvent history
As HHH destroyer he was healthy the whole time
@Spoeism it's been well-documented so you're the one with the Papa H revision history since Vince kept giving Joe a push as a top heel despite the injuries
@@dkmenace1990 present the timeline of Samoa Joes feud with Roman reigns as the Destroyer
Vs his injury off time
You’re off by a year
He's blaming Triple h but we'll see what that hypocrite Tony Khan does with him.....because I only see him having these mid title reigns with that stupid TNT title
Let me guess you have aew and wwe toy too.
Tony Khan can't even control Lashley and MVP in the media scrum LOL
Triple h is saving the wwe from Dwayne Johnson and Vince russo
Triple h is the best boss ever
MVP and Lashley aren't good in the ring. They don't give us real wrestling fans what we want, classics and 5⭐ bangers. HHH ensures the workrate is top level and I'm glad those oldtimers are gone. I acknowledge HHH, he's the best ☝️👑🐐