Their govt worried the majority people get angry when allowing conversion from religion A to other religion, since it is against the teaching. But forcing them to stay only worsens the image. I guess the people have forgotten that religion cannot be forced.
@shamshulanuar7718 forced conversion from a father who kidnapped his own children. Don't talk if u don't know the facts of the case. Or wait..maybe u do know..n pretending. Nothing new with your kind of people
The government and constitution should protect and not stress children with unnecessary unwarranted interference in the private lives of Malaysian- mind your own business. Leave children alone.
Justice prevails. I'm very happy for you and your children. So Maips, mufti dan lain lain yang sewaktu dengannya tu tak payah lah nak menyibuk mengganggu hidup mereka lagi. Just get lost from their sight, leave them alone and let them live their lives in peace.
Why some people just cannot leave others alone? They cannot sleep well at night knowing they didn't complete what they set out to do? o they get extra bonus end of the year?
Corruption is already haram in Islam. Maybe you didn't know. Maips is one of the best religious authorities . Maips built , repaired more houses for the poor, even the first that helps when storms or disasters. Maips helps universities students. Kuips is a free university
And there are those who dare claim that there's no compulsion in Islam. Religious indoctrination has ruined some people's ability to think objectively.
There is no compulsion in Islam. It's in the Quran. Second chapter. Can't remember which verse. I'm a Muslim. (Opening myself up to the risk of being lambasted by fellow Muslims.) Allah said in the Quran (which is the word of God) that there should be no compulsion in Islam. Islam simply means submission to God. Hence, Muslims should not compel other Muslims to act this way, that way, etc, and Muslims should not force others to adopt or follow their religion. It is when THE STATE gets involved, that things get messy. When the state considers itself the guardian of religion etc then interpretation of the Quran is seen through the lens of codified law or codified norms. I am not pro or anti law. I am a Muslim, and a proud Malaysian. What my race is does not matter. But it is stated in the Quran - let there be no compulsion in religion. And I wish many small-minded half-illiterate under-educated self-appointed Muslim "teachers" would stop bastardising the line between the law and religion and understand the Quran is God's final word and it states clearly, let there be no compulsion in religion. And to all the bots or keyboard warriors who may attack me, go for it. Just know Imma get on with my life and ignore your comments. I'm a devoted Muslim and my faith in God is absolute so have at it, anyone who wants to "attack" me. Peace out.
The mother who force his husband. Should the husbnad sue that women? This real thing was "women alway right" is big deal now. Shame for man to have this kind of women who didn't know where she came from.
Well. Who is a liar but the person who denies that Jesus is Christ. The person who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist. John 2:22 I dont understand how people can't see it.
@@chitrasakrabani5213 Our Constitutional / Law reform & changes accurate because of her. Its lead today court judgement be in favour for Miss Loh, She is d one , we should & must APPRECIATED
Maips has no business in her family affairs. It's her very private family matters - no one has the moral legitimacy or authority - be it the government or any religious agency or authorities. 😊
It is very wrong to play God. Religion is between man and God . Don’t suppresses freedom of believe and Faith it will keep ypu backward l change is progress.
@@Fir6075 please lah, who gives u the right to decide on behalf of the parents? if the children want to convert to any religion, they could do so after 18 years old...but not now
God has given every human being the birthright to make choices at every moment of their lives, It's a God-given right. Tuhan telah memberikan setiap manusia hak kesulungan untuk membuat pilihan pada setiap saat dalam hidup mereka . Itu hak yang Allah berikan
@@DH89715 siapa ckp jd islam lepas undang2?..bapa dia da dihukum.. Siapa kita nak nilai dia selepas ini?.. Xsemua jd jahat selamanya.. Hukuman da jalan pun utk bapa dia.. Jika anak2 itu ada pilihan knp kita nak halang?.. Mereka amalkan hidup Islam.. Urusan agama adalah urusan kerajaan negeri..
@@abdulrazaksulaiman2211 ada saya kata bapa dia lepas undang2?. Saya kata DIA INGAT DIA AKAN LEPAS DRP HUKUMAN. Anak2 dia baru umur 7 tahun waktu itu. Biar lah anak2 dia dewasa utk pilih apa2 pegangan. Nak harapkan bapak yang keluar masuk penjara jadi teladan anak2 ke? Atau biar tinggal dgn mak dan dijaga dgn elok dan ikut agama asal?
It is amazing that the country allows religious agencies to squander and fritter away taxpayers' sweat and toil money on matters relating to a religion and his god when those agencies should be working hard on improving the economic level of the country. Any religion worth its grain of salt should be loved not hated because there is no compulsion in religion.
This the most problematic, selfish, full of contradictions religion... how do they even called themselves 'religion of peace' without feeling guilty...
Nasib baik ada tempat bagi tutup mulut maips one's for all kalau tak cabar lagi.. So as penjual bah ku teh saya bagi free makan for rest of life.. For madam loh and your children 😊
Just don’t ever marry a Muslim nor convert into one ever for love to avoid these problems. Only genuine faith in any belief should allow conversion into any faith you choose. True Freedom of religion should apply to the individual and not determined by religious bodies.
In the future no matter what decision from the court, the children will choose their own faith when they know their rights. The time will come quite soon as the children not too young and quite matured enough. At that time even their mother can't force them.
They already told the judge in private sitting that they are happy and peaceful as hindus - they go to the temple etc. They told the judge they dont want to be a muslim
Focus corruption in Malaysia,the country is in crisis due to high corruption, who choose what religion their business nothing will happen if loh children remain, life will go on as usual
In that case don't live here. Live in Singapore. Here upon conversion to Islam, have to follow syariah law not federal law. What is Allah a bad god?. What's wrong with Islam?
So I wish people be more courteous and grateful for the sincere help from the Muslim people ( like Mufti Perlis Group )for their hospitality and Care when the father of the kids themselves asked for Help to shelter the kids when the biological mother was missing in Action !!
Respect...laa keputusan Mahkamah... Hormatlah Keluarga Loh.. Bukankah dlm Agama ada menyebut "layan & sayang jiran bukan seagama dgn Adil" ? Kita jgn Keruh2 keadaan lagi dan Buatkan mana2 Agama dibenci2... Bukankah Agama yg war2kan tu Universal? So everyone, Pls move on. Lapang Dada...lol
THE LORD JESUS SAID; And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [John 10:28] 🙏🙏🙏☺️☺️☺️
the things is that the religious department has no concern about the children wellbeing and emotional damage it bring to the mother. they only see this case as their tanggungjawab as muslims.
Wait until the children are 18 years old then they can decide the truth way of life until hereafter@doomsday Dont yet excited!All muslim in this country will always pray for them to avoid them of being dragged into hellfire.
Menghairankan islam malaysia boleh pula memaksa yg lain mengikut ideology durang tapi kalau bangsa melayu keluar islam dihukum pula?kenapa?begitulah kejadian di sabah yg dari dulu lagi ramai sabahan dipaksa ikut ideology islan yg lebih banyak mengakibatkan kesusahan terhadap sabahan!islam buatan malaysia lebih banyak mengajar pemimpin negara mengamalkan rasuah dan penipuan!
The government should be protecting it's citizen, not make life difficult for them and torturing them.
Their govt worried the majority people get angry when allowing conversion from religion A to other religion, since it is against the teaching. But forcing them to stay only worsens the image. I guess the people have forgotten that religion cannot be forced.
@@audiousfpvh4499 I think this religion is full of do's and dont's contradictions that's messing everyone life even to non believers
@@w_k773 in other word?HYPOCRITES.
Forced conversion is a sin against man and his God. Luckily justice prevails.
Not a forced conversion
@shamshulanuar7718 forced conversion from a father who kidnapped his own children. Don't talk if u don't know the facts of the case. Or wait..maybe u do know..n pretending. Nothing new with your kind of people
@@shamshulanuar7718so what is maip trying to achieve by appealing?
@@shamshulanuar7718 considered forced conversion sbb the victims is bawah umur 18 and need permission from both parents...
Publicity Stunt
Never force others to convert to other religion..let them live their own way of life..MAIPS get lost
Sokong sangat2...keadilan dan kemenangan kpd ibu tunggal yg teraniayai sekian lama...
Very happy for her
Please leave her alone , her children
MAIP has every rights to appeal, & re-appeal as per the laws.
@@smartguy1008 listen to their aspect of laws... dont be so prejudice
@@smartguy1008harassment comes in many forms.
@@smartguy1008 Already final appeal at Federal Court, where got further right of appeal?
So sad to be a Muslim hope got blessed here
Why force a unwanted religion on the family. There is supposed to be no compulsion. Leave them alone and let them choose their right one.
In some Countries, Religion is Big Business
@@Hs5687 in most countries religion is based on fear, shame and lies.
One & only Theocracy
no compulsion verse already abrogated my friend
Because here is bolehland
The government and constitution should protect and not stress children with unnecessary unwarranted interference in the private lives of Malaysian- mind your own business. Leave children alone.
they revert back when they are 18
@@THALJIMDKADRI They wont hahahahahahah - they are hindus and will remain- Pergi mimpi
Congratulations Madam Loh
Maip.lain kerja tiada.. always disturb.the other races.. what u get ????
Congratulations 👍🏻👍🏻 please leave her alone give her and children peaceful life 👍🏻 what kind of religion harass other people's life??
Justice prevails. I'm very happy for you and your children. So Maips, mufti dan lain lain yang sewaktu dengannya tu tak payah lah nak menyibuk mengganggu hidup mereka lagi. Just get lost from their sight, leave them alone and let them live their lives in peace.
Why some people just cannot leave others alone? They cannot sleep well at night knowing they didn't complete what they set out to do? o they get extra bonus end of the year?
You are the one who will get the biggest lost for being the inbeleivers.. lol
@@faqirahabdullah1865you dont know that.. any holy book can be truth and if yours is not, then you will be the loser!
Biggest looser can be the other way around also
@@faqirahabdullah1865 John 2:22 google this and tell who is it talking about.
Leave them alone, let them move on with their life, don’t ever disturb them
Maips should focus and teach people to stop corruption
Corruption is already haram in Islam. Maybe you didn't know. Maips is one of the best religious authorities . Maips built , repaired more houses for the poor, even the first that helps when storms or disasters. Maips helps universities students. Kuips is a free university
Betul betul ini setuju.
@@nafriz2010 .............And also harass people to convert
Poor mother had suffered enough
Read the story from beginning when the father who converted into islam before he died.
Finally she's relived ..
Happy 4her n her children ...❤
@@Fir6075 but without the permission from the mother
@@Fir6075so what? The guy willingly convert let the children have a choice also lah
@@Fir6075 can a Malay choose his own religion in this country?
Leave her alone. Don't bully and oppressed non muslims
And there are those who dare claim that there's no compulsion in Islam. Religious indoctrination has ruined some people's ability to think objectively.
There is no compulsion in Islam. It's in the Quran. Second chapter. Can't remember which verse. I'm a Muslim. (Opening myself up to the risk of being lambasted by fellow Muslims.) Allah said in the Quran (which is the word of God) that there should be no compulsion in Islam. Islam simply means submission to God. Hence, Muslims should not compel other Muslims to act this way, that way, etc, and Muslims should not force others to adopt or follow their religion. It is when THE STATE gets involved, that things get messy. When the state considers itself the guardian of religion etc then interpretation of the Quran is seen through the lens of codified law or codified norms. I am not pro or anti law. I am a Muslim, and a proud Malaysian. What my race is does not matter. But it is stated in the Quran - let there be no compulsion in religion. And I wish many small-minded half-illiterate under-educated self-appointed Muslim "teachers" would stop bastardising the line between the law and religion and understand the Quran is God's final word and it states clearly, let there be no compulsion in religion. And to all the bots or keyboard warriors who may attack me, go for it. Just know Imma get on with my life and ignore your comments. I'm a devoted Muslim and my faith in God is absolute so have at it, anyone who wants to "attack" me. Peace out.
madam loh should sue this maips for interfering with her family and demand for compensation
Good idea! This will teach such religious extremists not to meddle with our lives
The mother who force his husband. Should the husbnad sue that women?
This real thing was "women alway right" is big deal now. Shame for man to have this kind of women who didn't know where she came from.
@@Juvnahanafi Mother forced the husband to take drugs? Forced the husband to abuse his wife? Is this what your religion teaches you?
@@Juvnahanafi That convict drug addict beat her and left her hospitalised ! As long as he is Muslim he is always right ?
@@Party-fh3nx Women always right?
Malaysia government should protect madam loh and her 3 children from extremist . The children could be kidnapped and never be seen
Not really.
Not really? Wow..u should try eating pork bro. Will rejuvenate your braincells lol😂@ahmadyusof2480
Well.
Who is a liar but the person who denies that Jesus is Christ. The person who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.
John 2:22
I dont understand how people can't see it.
You mean like MH370 ? … that’s Scary
My govt?really??? What a joke
Why is MAIPS still trying to revisit this case??
Such persecution should not have happened at all.
why peaceful followers like to force others convert to?
Fake peaceful of religion
yes but they will revert back when reach 18
@@THALJIMDKADRI revert back to what?
Don't make it a 3R issue, there's still sensible minds from all fronts.
they are not forced, their convicted father was a muslim help convert their children..the question is madam loh should mind her own business
PLS PROCEED NEXT- Mdm INDRAGHANDI CASE , bring back her daughters frm d cowards who disobey court order.
Yes
@@chitrasakrabani5213 Our Constitutional / Law reform & changes accurate because of her. Its lead today court judgement be in favour for Miss Loh, She is d one , we should & must APPRECIATED
By now the daughter must be a teenage. Im sure she has read reports on social media. If she wanted to she can reach out to her mother.
@@josiefun56 Yes Josie, Really Hopes that. GOD BLESS
@@josiefun56 yes provided the father has not brain washed her.
Maips has no business in her family affairs.
It's her very private family matters - no one has the moral legitimacy or authority - be it the government or any religious agency or authorities. 😊
Harassment
Definitely....❤
Glad for you Madam. Good closure. Stay well and focus on your kids education. Take care.
Can she relocate to Sabah or Sarawak? I feel for her mental stress.
I agree.
Sabah and Sarawak don't accept Peninsula people to stay there. It's almost Peninsula people are treated almost like foreigners
please come Sarawak
Peninsula people are not allowed to stay in Sarawak and Sabah as they like. Why are you all censoring my comment
@@hailyrizzo5428 We welcome everyone in North Borneo EXCEPT religious zealots :)
Faith is supposed to be personal.............not imposed by law.....???
It's time to respect the Malaysian Court ruling !! It's part of the Constitution ,let's Stop force Conversion and respect the Rule of Law..!! 👌🙏
It is very wrong to play God. Religion is between man and God . Don’t suppresses freedom of believe and Faith it will keep ypu backward l change is progress.
And who plays God here
@@shamshulanuar7718don't understand simple English?
@@shamshulanuar7718 , those who want to force the children to be muslims. If the children want to , they can convert on achieving the age of majority.
@@shamshulanuar7718 MAIP
@@shamshulanuar7718ur species🤮
Doesnt Maips have anything better to do.
Please read lah the whole story to why maips was involved
@@Fir6075 please lah, who gives u the right to decide on behalf of the parents? if the children want to convert to any religion, they could do so after 18 years old...but not now
@@Fir6075 have read it. You should read the lsw and try to understand lah. So should Maipd. They should understand when to back off
@@Fir6075please lah why don’t they do something more useful like educate our youngsters to stop merempit and stop dadah
@@Fir6075probably you have read it without understanding. Maip has a sinister motive in their appeal.
People who harass her should
Leave the poor lady and children alone. She won the legal battle.
MAIPS is doing nothing but proving how weak their religion is that the only way they can get people to be in it is by force
Maips just fcking let go la. Why force religion on people.
God has given every human being the birthright to make choices at every moment of their lives, It's a God-given right.
Tuhan telah memberikan setiap manusia hak kesulungan untuk membuat pilihan pada setiap saat dalam hidup mereka . Itu hak yang Allah berikan
Leave them alone. Why force people? Stop with torment lah.
Anak Anak Jadi Mangsa sebab pertukaran agama.. Adakah itu satu Pilihan anak anak.. Agama tersebut nampak macam mendesak atau terdesak di mata org.
Pilihan anak2 dgn ayahnya..
Siapa cakap
@@abdulrazaksulaiman2211pilihan ayah dia sorang sebab kes pukul bini dan dera. Dia ingan masuk islam n pakai kopiah dia lepas drp tindakan undang2.
@@DH89715 siapa ckp jd islam lepas undang2?..bapa dia da dihukum.. Siapa kita nak nilai dia selepas ini?.. Xsemua jd jahat selamanya.. Hukuman da jalan pun utk bapa dia.. Jika anak2 itu ada pilihan knp kita nak halang?.. Mereka amalkan hidup Islam.. Urusan agama adalah urusan kerajaan negeri..
@@abdulrazaksulaiman2211 ada saya kata bapa dia lepas undang2?. Saya kata DIA INGAT DIA AKAN LEPAS DRP HUKUMAN. Anak2 dia baru umur 7 tahun waktu itu. Biar lah anak2 dia dewasa utk pilih apa2 pegangan. Nak harapkan bapak yang keluar masuk penjara jadi teladan anak2 ke? Atau biar tinggal dgn mak dan dijaga dgn elok dan ikut agama asal?
Such a disgraceful society we live in.
You are very right.
The said a very religion of peaceful.. Propaganda Malaysia is moderate muslim country.
The fact that peoples unwillingness to be part of the religion, tells a lot
Jangan paksa orang MAIPS.
Tak ada kerja lain kah?
Orang nak ikut apa ugama orang punya suka la.
Paksa orang dapat apa?
konon tiada paksaan. penipu mmg tk boleh lari dri mulut penunggang agama
nobody should be born into a religion. Everyone deserve to choose what they believe in. Race and Religion are 2 different things.
There is no compulsion in islam. Dont mock your own quran. 256 Al-baqara.
Talk only.
It doesnt apply to this country. Over here its Hotel California
They will now cry 'islamophobia' after losing the case
Lucky u ar... God bless u. .. too forcing people really.. 👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🥳🥳🥳🥳
It is amazing that the country allows religious agencies to squander and fritter away taxpayers' sweat and toil money on matters relating to a religion and his god when those agencies should be working hard on improving the economic level of the country. Any religion worth its grain of salt should be loved not hated because there is no compulsion in religion.
👍👍👍👍
RELIGION RIDERS
why force religion on people. Same goes to malays who dont identify with their religion anymore, let them change their religion
MALAYSIA islamic law is always not logic. one of the parents convert muslim doesnt mean kids must convert
1 way ticket
This the most problematic, selfish, full of contradictions religion... how do they even called themselves 'religion of peace' without feeling guilty...
Nasib baik ada tempat bagi tutup mulut maips one's for all kalau tak cabar lagi.. So as penjual bah ku teh saya bagi free makan for rest of life.. For madam loh and your children 😊
Negaraku negara sekular..?
Benar.... Adanya.
Tima kasih
ye
No need to talk anymore. Just respect the court decision.
Banyak kes orang menyalahguna agama utk mementingkan sendiri, utk ambik anak mereka.
Just don’t ever marry a Muslim nor convert into one ever for love to avoid these problems. Only genuine faith in any belief should allow conversion into any faith you choose. True Freedom of religion should apply to the individual and not determined by religious bodies.
100%
👍
Congratulations Ms Loh .
Maybe We should set up a Levy Fund for her.........??
In the future no matter what decision from the court, the children will choose their own faith when they know their rights. The time will come quite soon as the children not too young and quite matured enough. At that time even their mother can't force them.
They already told the judge in private sitting that they are happy and peaceful as hindus - they go to the temple etc. They told the judge they dont want to be a muslim
Actually no compultion in religion. So if your children were given hidayah by Allah its ok. Even Prophet Noh son also died as non Muslim.
Tell this to your group
Focus corruption in Malaysia,the country is in crisis due to high corruption, who choose what religion their business nothing will happen if loh children remain, life will go on as usual
The wise man said, when the snare has hit, then only the owner of the trap can release you or you will suffer living inside forever. 😂
Religion suppose to be peaceful but whats happening here.
In that case don't live here. Live in Singapore. Here upon conversion to Islam, have to follow syariah law not federal law. What is Allah a bad god?. What's wrong with Islam?
So I wish people be more courteous and grateful for the sincere help from the Muslim people ( like Mufti Perlis Group )for their hospitality and Care when the father of the kids themselves asked for Help to shelter the kids when the biological mother was missing in Action !!
There is No Compulsion in Islam ....in fact the Muslim people were approached to take care of the Kids when the mum was missing in Action
Respect...laa keputusan Mahkamah...
Hormatlah Keluarga Loh..
Bukankah dlm Agama ada menyebut "layan & sayang jiran bukan seagama dgn Adil" ?
Kita jgn Keruh2 keadaan lagi dan Buatkan mana2 Agama dibenci2...
Bukankah Agama yg war2kan tu Universal?
So everyone, Pls move on.
Lapang Dada...lol
hahahhalancaooo..ke kt korg respect mahkamah ...kuil haram suruh roboh korg lawan bomba pun mati...sembang gajah terbang
Glad that the Malaysian judiciary is independent and operates as per the constitution and laws provisions
The farther should took a wright prosedure in his move nexttime, but tomorrow never dies...remember that 😊
I remembered Dr MAZA asked her 2 daughters wanted to be muslim without any force!
Just leave them alone...they are only answerable to God...we have better things to do
Respect her wish lah
Then why corruption in Malaysia highest in world, what authorities doing,
Cuba kalau diaorang kena paksa masuk agama lain macamana?... Free will is everyman right given by God on birth
Jai Sri Ram.
Let them grow to independence and learn more to determine the right path.
Leave them alone!
They Changed only the Name to “ Malaysia “ Not her Habits … ie. MA63
Don't force religion.
THE LORD JESUS SAID;
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[John 10:28]
🙏🙏🙏☺️☺️☺️
waiting to be 18 to make own decision
yes they will decide to remain a hindu they already mentioned to the judge the other day hahahahahahah
@@singatakberpura umur 18 tahun mereka bebas menganut islam tanpa celahan mahkamah ikut bapa mereka ... ini politik je
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
The kids will grow up and they will choose their way of life.
Praying for the children ❤
They already told the judge the other day they are happy and peaceful being hindus
Relax2 sja,jgn adu domba....
why it need to reach court level when it should end with just common sense ?
They should compensate the family for the hardships they endured.
the things is that the religious department has no concern about the children wellbeing and emotional damage it bring to the mother. they only see this case as their tanggungjawab as muslims.
Hi KiniTV, please check the mid frequency as Camilia's voice isn't cutting through.
Zukor nail. Given free stay in Malaysia by Dr. Mahathir. Anwar Ibrahim will give these people stay?
Wait until the children are 18 years old then they can decide the truth way of life until hereafter@doomsday
Dont yet excited!All muslim in this country will always pray for them to avoid them of being dragged into hellfire.
Islam a compassionate Religion.......👍👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😍😍😍😍😍😍
What is good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander.
Menghairankan islam malaysia boleh pula memaksa yg lain mengikut ideology durang tapi kalau bangsa melayu keluar islam dihukum pula?kenapa?begitulah kejadian di sabah yg dari dulu lagi ramai sabahan dipaksa ikut ideology islan yg lebih banyak mengakibatkan kesusahan terhadap sabahan!islam buatan malaysia lebih banyak mengajar pemimpin negara mengamalkan rasuah dan penipuan!
Wise choice...
Why Paranoid over religion??? let the children decide !!
Choice of belief and faith is a God given right. As long as it does no harm to society then all should be left alone to serve their own God.
Interesting claim on being independent media.
LAKNATULLAH.......
🤔!!!
Butohyoulah
HARBI LAKNATULLAH, HARBI LAKNATULLAH, HARBI LAKNATULLAH....
HARBI LAKNATULLAH, HARBI LAKNATULLAH, HARBI LAKNATULLAH.....
@@mohamadanuarariffin8294 KEPALA BUTOHYOULAH, KEPALA BUTOHYOULAH, KEPALA BUTOHYOULAH, KEPALA BUTOHYOULAH, KEPALA BUTOHYOULAH,
Faith is a person's choice...