Hello Rob.i Just bought one of your guns.its a great build sure.But I have been a Builder for 36 years and am not so weak but oh my I cannot load this as the butt of your gun is so streamline and small .Some feed back .offer a pad for the chest.i will return the gun tomorrow as I don't think buying a longer rubber for less power was the point.Again beautiful gun the Scorpia rail 700 but not for me.
All new divers battle until they get the technique, I'm very surprised you can't load a 700? Please get the guys to make sure it has the right length rubber before you give up.
I have this gun on the way cant wait to get it wet once out of quarintine reason for picking was from all the great reviews and your content on youtube cheers rob from south island nz
I do it your way also.its easy.i have an imersion speargun,the is a botton on the grip written on the letter S,1,2.s is for secure what means the other numbers.ty.
Good morning, I have a speargun I made. It's a wooden 110 cm, the shaft is 160 cm with 2x16 mm rubbers. The length of the rubbers are 26 inches. My question is can I use 14mm rubbers when this setup? And would I cut them at the same length as the 16mm. Is the original setup okay?
Hi Shark, it is not possible for me to make suggestions as I do not know the dimensions related to how and where you spear sits in relation to the rubbers. Our 110cm gun would use a 150 length spear. The spear length and the spear diameter will have a big effect. Going smaller diameter with the rubbers will change the power. If you were over powering the spear with the 16mm rubbers then the 14mm would be better. If it was already under powered it will become more under powered. I hope this helps.
I wish I could say I found it helpful. You said you’re using a longer band and a shorter gun but I bought your Kobe speargun. It’s a long gun with a short band that technique does not work on it. I wish you could show us a real video of you using the band that the gun comes with, thank you though
This video is purely to show beginners the technique. Once you learn the proper technique it becomes easy. If it is the Cobia gun you are having problems with it should not be the case as these have light 16mm rubber. You will need to change out the rubber if you fine it to hard to load. Try with a 14mm for now. One you have mastered the technique you will find it easy to load. As mentioned in the video, it is not about strength but much more about getting the technique right.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing thank you so much for your reply. I’m not trying to be a jerk or anything like that. I will order some 14 mm bands from my local supplier I’m going to watch the video again and try your technique but these bands are so short and stiff. it just pushes the gun off my chest. I am able to successfully load it, but it takes brute strength and my chest hurts after the easiest way for me to load it is to shove it in between my thighs. I have more leverage that way. I’ve loaded plenty of my friends guns before and it never has been this hard is there an email address or something that I can take a picture or a video of me loading my gun I’m just wondering if I got the rent wrong bans on it my brother weighs 240 pounds mostly muscle and he can barely load it. I’m 190 pounds 5 foot six very in shape very strong with the shortness of the bands and how stiff they are. I really don’t see how using that technique is going to help but I will keep trying. I know you said it’s not about strength. I keep trying that technique and the bands just don’t let that technique work with my gun. I just don’t know how I’m gonna be able to load it in the water. This is my first gun that I’ve bought I’ve pole spared for 10 years now. and hoping to take the next step with your speargun. is there any videos of you guys using this technique with the actual bands that the gun comes with that would be a great video and more helpful than this one since as you guys said in the video you’re not using the band that the gun came with, so how can this instructional video be accurate? I feel like if it wasn’t hard to load your gun with the bands that it came with that you would’ve made a video that shows you loading one of your guns with the bands that it came with one of these videos would be amazing. thank you for your time. I’m going to figure this out. I have no choice.
I rewatch the video to try the technique again the band he’s using is super fluffy super pliable my band does not flex like that. I’m just curious how many millimeter band that is cause that’s nothing like the one I have super stiff super short that one kind of flops around in the video, mine doesn’t have a chance of moving like that one it’s black I don’t know if that means anything to you on what type of band is the one in the video is blue did your supplier just give me the wrong band?
@@livetofish5601 Hi again, It is possible that the bands on your gun are wrong? Please email me on rob@roballen.co.za or, message here. Give me the barrel length and rubber length. The colour does not make a difference, it is just the pigment. I also can not be certain that the rubber has been changed after it left the factory here. In that video as explained, the rubbers are long just for the demonstration. I needed to talk and show the technique at the same time of pulling on the rubber. Believe me when I say it is much more about technique than strength. It is also a movement you need to get familiar with. Keeping the hands in the correct position and using the thumbs when too tight. I can send you a video loading a way stronger rubber. We sell 20mm rubbers. this was what I started diving with. It hurt like hell to load but the chest eventually gets used to it. Today most wear a wetsuit with a loading pad so it helps pad the chest. I did crack my breast bone 40 years ago trying to load the "wrong rubber" It was sold to me as an 18mm. I cut it too short. There were lots of fish around and I was struggling to load. I eventually did but broke or separated ribs from my breast plate. After measuring the rubber properly it was 22mm.
Hello, I am new to speargun, want to get a roller soeargun for reef or. Shore spear fishing, I am 5”5 and 170 lbs, what size of the roller speargun would you recommend? Thank you
Hi Tom. There is no exact size. It is more about what fish you are hunting and how clean the water is. Anything from a 90cm to a 110cm will do, maybe go in the middle and get a 100cm.
Ahh, thanks Rob - I got the 900 Scorpia and always get muzzle wrap. I will try moving the mono to the left in future. PS: I have missed the sound of hadedas, don't get them in the UK.
So, you can teach an old dog new tricks! Those tips at the end were great. Thanks, Rob👍(We’ve just gone out of lockdown today snorkeling allowed but no spearfishing yet. I’m going for a stroll soon and seek out some pāua NZ perlemoen) and crays at low tide as we’re only allowed 1m. Update - Spearfishing allowed but no boats and within 200m of the shore👍
Hi Mathew, Mono can and does take a set. If you stretch it out and leave it in the sun a few hours, it should sort it. The coil obviously took a set while being stored a long time. Worst is when it is spooled tight in a small diameter. Long term, if you just leave it on your gun under the tension of the bungee it should come right after a week or so. I hope this helps.
Unfortunately I have tried it and I still miss 10-15cm to reach the shark fin, I tried the thumbs but not able to reach it... any additional advice? I am not a weak guy I can do 12 pull ups with my weight (105kg) 🤣 but this rubber is killing me 😬 BTW great video! Thank you very much!
@@RobAllenSpearfishing whats a load assist? Rubbers are brand new made in a specialized shop by measurements from the gun...is there a way they will relax a bit if left on the first shark fin (the only one of three I can reach ?
Спасибо за Ваши видео, очень полезно. У меня недавно появился такой же speargun. Скажите, можно ли его использовать в дальнейшем для upgrade? Хочу заменить баррель с направляющей 1100 и открытую голову, чтобы охотиться на рыбу побольше. Не будет ли проблем с заменой частей? Или всё же подкопить денег на другое ружьё Вашего производства с большей длинной? Берегите себя!
You can upgrade to a rail barrel no problem. Just make sure the shaft is the right length. A 1100 barrel needs a shaft of 1500. Вы можете перейти на железнодорожную бочку без проблем. Просто убедитесь, что вал имеет правильную длину. Стволу на 1100 нужен ствол на 1500.
This one is the most instructive and efficient video i have ever seen on loading a hard speargun. Thanks..
Taught by professional not fly-by-night spearos.
Pull up muscles are back muscles like Latissimus dorsi....
I’ve just bought the tuna railgun, It’s my first. Hoping I will be able to load it. Tomorrow is opening day for grouper here in Florida. Just in time!
Thanks Rob, the little tricks and tips are very useful even to an experienced spearo.
Dude just load the fucking thing already
Thanks Rob. Good tips.cant wait to own my first speargun. Love to have the tuna Pro.
Thankyou for the tip..I'm still using the 1.1m and is still the best..Arob..Bougainville
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Hello Rob.i Just bought one of your guns.its a great build sure.But I have been a Builder for 36 years and am not so weak but oh my I cannot load this as the butt of your gun is so streamline and small .Some feed back .offer a pad for the chest.i will return the gun tomorrow as I don't think buying a longer rubber for less power was the point.Again beautiful gun the Scorpia rail 700 but not for me.
All new divers battle until they get the technique, I'm very surprised you can't load a 700? Please get the guys to make sure it has the right length rubber before you give up.
Thanks, and new subscriber!!
as usual, valuable videos thanks Rob , be safe, greatings from Algeria.
you rock ! ty !
Thank you sir.
I have this gun on the way cant wait to get it wet once out of quarintine reason for picking was from all the great reviews and your content on youtube cheers rob from south island nz
Is that the snapper 110?
@@dcgo44r scorpia 800 in the video if that's what you were wondering
@@NorthWalesspearfishing looked like a Rob A. 👍
Thank you very much for this excelent vidéo!
You are welcome.
Nice❤❤❤
by far the very informative video and very straightforward tutorial how to load a spear gun
Great helpful video. Thanks from an Aussie beginner spearo
Bloody hell, I was doing it wrong. Will try next dive, huge thanks mate!
Thank u
Just ordered the gt to use in Cornwall at the end of sept hoping for some decent weather thanks for the info 😬👍🏻🇬🇧
I saw you at the beach yesterday lol I didn’t catch anything
This video would have been better it it explained where the line goes when loading.
Thanks for the video Rob. I fully agree with the Cengiz comments. Well done indeed!
thanks you for these tips sir.
You are welcome.
very informative thanks a lot,you are a true legend.
Love the thumb walking trick, helps me lots. Thanks!
Håfa Adai From Guam 🇬🇺 Thanks for the tips Sir Rob Allen!👌🤙
Loading my 120 is ridiculous let’s see it with a long gun….
I'm struggling as I got old suddenly. Good tip on the pull ups. Gonna try it.
Mr Rob I amazed by you
the most clear video over charge a long speargun, so thank friend
Nice one Rob! Great advice
Wow, doesnt that make loading my "Tuna" a lot easier!!! Thank you.
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Awesome, thanks so much for the detail! Loving my Rob Allen gun
YOUR A LEGEND ROB ALLEN!!!
Many thanks 👍
Thank you sir . So helpful information
very useful ， thanks Rob
Thank you sir for sharing your idea...
Hi sir.love spearfishing you inspired me so much...
I REALLY need one how mush your charging me love this video😮
You need one gun?
Thank you! useful!
How long is it ? 110cm?
That last little bit... great tip!
100 percent...good tips
Thank you.
grazie
So interesting..
Thanks so much my grandpa...best explanation ever..🤝🤝🤝
Hi Rob, why isn't there a rail on those series of guns?
We did have this as an option but no longer.
I do it your way also.its easy.i have an imersion speargun,the is a botton on the grip written on the letter S,1,2.s is for secure what means the other numbers.ty.
No idea, we don't get Imersion guns here.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing oh ok ty.
I have a 750 version of this speargun, but the small blue rubber connected to the cable is snapped, will I need to replace it.
+ when I load the cable it's very loose as well, is that because the wee blue rubber is broken or am I loading it wrong?.
@@MRDAthe5TH It is loose because of the small rubber being broken, replace it.
The way to avoid muzzle wrap is intresting..will sure try it thanks!!
Good morning, I have a speargun I made. It's a wooden 110 cm, the shaft is 160 cm with 2x16 mm rubbers. The length of the rubbers are 26 inches. My question is can I use 14mm rubbers when this setup? And would I cut them at the same length as the 16mm. Is the original setup okay?
Hi Shark, it is not possible for me to make suggestions as I do not know the dimensions related to how and where you spear sits in relation to the rubbers. Our 110cm gun would use a 150 length spear. The spear length and the spear diameter will have a big effect. Going smaller diameter with the rubbers will change the power. If you were over powering the spear with the 16mm rubbers then the 14mm would be better. If it was already under powered it will become more under powered. I hope this helps.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing it's a 7mm spear. Thanks
@@lmnop20sharks best thing to do is change to 14mm rubbers. I can't give you a length with out seeing the gun.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing thank you
Thank you ❤😊
You are welcome.
I wish I could say I found it helpful. You said you’re using a longer band and a shorter gun but I bought your Kobe speargun. It’s a long gun with a short band that technique does not work on it. I wish you could show us a real video of you using the band that the gun comes with, thank you though
This video is purely to show beginners the technique. Once you learn the proper technique it becomes easy. If it is the Cobia gun you are having problems with it should not be the case as these have light 16mm rubber. You will need to change out the rubber if you fine it to hard to load. Try with a 14mm for now. One you have mastered the technique you will find it easy to load. As mentioned in the video, it is not about strength but much more about getting the technique right.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing thank you so much for your reply. I’m not trying to be a jerk or anything like that. I will order some 14 mm bands from my local supplier I’m going to watch the video again and try your technique but these bands are so short and stiff. it just pushes the gun off my chest. I am able to successfully load it, but it takes brute strength and my chest hurts after the easiest way for me to load it is to shove it in between my thighs. I have more leverage that way. I’ve loaded plenty of my friends guns before and it never has been this hard is there an email address or something that I can take a picture or a video of me loading my gun I’m just wondering if I got the rent wrong bans on it my brother weighs 240 pounds mostly muscle and he can barely load it. I’m 190 pounds 5 foot six very in shape very strong with the shortness of the bands and how stiff they are. I really don’t see how using that technique is going to help but I will keep trying. I know you said it’s not about strength. I keep trying that technique and the bands just don’t let that technique work with my gun. I just don’t know how I’m gonna be able to load it in the water. This is my first gun that I’ve bought I’ve pole spared for 10 years now. and hoping to take the next step with your speargun. is there any videos of you guys using this technique with the actual bands that the gun comes with that would be a great video and more helpful than this one since as you guys said in the video you’re not using the band that the gun came with, so how can this instructional video be accurate? I feel like if it wasn’t hard to load your gun with the bands that it came with that you would’ve made a video that shows you loading one of your guns with the bands that it came with one of these videos would be amazing. thank you for your time. I’m going to figure this out. I have no choice.
I rewatch the video to try the technique again the band he’s using is super fluffy super pliable my band does not flex like that. I’m just curious how many millimeter band that is cause that’s nothing like the one I have super stiff super short that one kind of flops around in the video, mine doesn’t have a chance of moving like that one it’s black I don’t know if that means anything to you on what type of band is the one in the video is blue did your supplier just give me the wrong band?
@@livetofish5601 Hi again, It is possible that the bands on your gun are wrong? Please email me on rob@roballen.co.za or, message here. Give me the barrel length and rubber length. The colour does not make a difference, it is just the pigment. I also can not be certain that the rubber has been changed after it left the factory here.
In that video as explained, the rubbers are long just for the demonstration. I needed to talk and show the technique at the same time of pulling on the rubber. Believe me when I say it is much more about technique than strength. It is also a movement you need to get familiar with. Keeping the hands in the correct position and using the thumbs when too tight. I can send you a video loading a way stronger rubber. We sell 20mm rubbers. this was what I started diving with. It hurt like hell to load but the chest eventually gets used to it. Today most wear a wetsuit with a loading pad so it helps pad the chest.
I did crack my breast bone 40 years ago trying to load the "wrong rubber" It was sold to me as an 18mm. I cut it too short. There were lots of fish around and I was struggling to load. I eventually did but broke or separated ribs from my breast plate. After measuring the rubber properly it was 22mm.
Hello, I am new to speargun, want to get a roller soeargun for reef or. Shore spear fishing, I am 5”5 and 170 lbs, what size of the roller speargun would you recommend? Thank you
Hi Tom. There is no exact size. It is more about what fish you are hunting and how clean the water is. Anything from a 90cm to a 110cm will do, maybe go in the middle and get a 100cm.
Rob, thank you so much just couldn't hold out the ring rubber, this method really works great
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Ahh, thanks Rob - I got the 900 Scorpia and always get muzzle wrap. I will try moving the mono to the left in future. PS: I have missed the sound of hadedas, don't get them in the UK.
The hadedas were a pain, had to try film around them 😜🤣
What brand of gun is that?
good day do you offer lifetime warranty on reels the dove take on mine cracked and no longer holds on the anchor under my gun.
Hi Sashtri, please email me on rob@roballen.co.za
Absolute legend!!
75 cm bir tüfek almak istiyorum Türkiye’de satış noktanız mevcut mu acaba?
Sorry, I don't understand.
Rob he is asking “is there any sales point of Rob Allen in Turkey?”
@@tokert1571 Thank you. Sorry no one in Turkey.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing GOOGLE translate helps.
So, you can teach an old dog new tricks! Those tips at the end were great. Thanks, Rob👍(We’ve just gone out of lockdown today snorkeling allowed but no spearfishing yet. I’m going for a stroll soon and seek out some pāua NZ perlemoen) and crays at low tide as we’re only allowed 1m. Update - Spearfishing allowed but no boats and within 200m of the shore👍
Hey rob, I recently bought new mono shooting line but even after rigging it to my gun it still just coils up into circles. Do u have any advice?
Hi Mathew, Mono can and does take a set. If you stretch it out and leave it in the sun a few hours, it should sort it. The coil obviously took a set while being stored a long time. Worst is when it is spooled tight in a small diameter. Long term, if you just leave it on your gun under the tension of the bungee it should come right after a week or so. I hope this helps.
RobAllenSpearfishing thanks for the help for rob
Unfortunately I have tried it and I still miss 10-15cm to reach the shark fin, I tried the thumbs but not able to reach it... any additional advice? I am not a weak guy I can do 12 pull ups with my weight (105kg) 🤣 but this rubber is killing me 😬 BTW great video! Thank you very much!
Hi Johnnie, do more pull ups 😜 Jokes aside, try using a load assist or, just make the rubbers longer.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing whats a load assist? Rubbers are brand new made in a specialized shop by measurements from the gun...is there a way they will relax a bit if left on the first shark fin (the only one of three I can reach ?
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@@RobAllenSpearfishing managed it finally...a freediver frend told me to inhale and hold the breath while doing it, that gave me the extra length...
Спасибо за Ваши видео, очень полезно. У меня недавно появился такой же speargun. Скажите, можно ли его использовать в дальнейшем для upgrade? Хочу заменить баррель с направляющей 1100 и открытую голову, чтобы охотиться на рыбу побольше. Не будет ли проблем с заменой частей? Или всё же подкопить денег на другое ружьё Вашего производства с большей длинной?
Берегите себя!
You can upgrade to a rail barrel no problem. Just make sure the shaft is the right length. A 1100 barrel needs a shaft of 1500.
Вы можете перейти на железнодорожную бочку без проблем. Просто убедитесь, что вал имеет правильную длину. Стволу на 1100 нужен ствол на 1500.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing да, вал я отдельно буду выбирать. Большое Вам спасибо за то что отвечаете и объяснянте🙏
@@ianshragger 👍👍
Uncle rob the man that makes everything simple for you 🫡
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Thank you Rob, was a great help and much appreciated.
Very good instructor and professional