Why Teaching How to Beat Polygraphs Can Land You in Jail
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2014
- Last September, Chad Dixon was sentenced to 8 months in a federal prison for teaching clients counter-measures for polygraph tests. Federal prosecutors charged Dixon with obstructing justice-they view his business as undermining an important tool used to check the credibility of government employees and prosecute criminals.
The information Dixon was selling wasn't new. Books on beating polygraphs have been around since the machines were invented. So why is the federal government cracking down now?
In an effort to stop the next Edward Snowden, officials are emphasizing polygraphs' ability to prevent leaks by keeping employees honest. The NSA has recently gone from polygraphing its employees once every five years to four times a year.
Relying on polygraphs is extremely risky according to most scientists. "There is no unique physiological signature that is associated with lying," says Steven Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists. Polygraphs can only record physiological responses to situations and, Aftergood explains, you can train yourself to control those responses: "You can learn to regulate your heartbeat, you can learn to control your breath, and you can generate spurious signals."
Supporters of polygraphs believe that up-to-date machines and well-trained operators can detect lies, making the counter-measures Dixon was teaching obsolete. "We're trained in all those type of counter-measures," says Darryl DeBow of the Virginia Polygraph School. "They are so antiquated, we know when they are doing it." Yet if the counter-measures can easily be detected, it throws doubt on the argument that Dixon was hindering the federal government's work.
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Polygraphs aren't even admissible in court, how is teaching people to beat one obstruction?
Stop muddying the water with facts and logic.
It's the belief by bureaucrats that someone who currently holds, or in the future could hold employment in a field that requires a Security Clearance, using that knowledge to fool the government and become a spy for an entity outside of the US Government.
It's a bit like how the DEA argues against legalizing cannabis (or more commonly known by the street name marijuana) because it's a "lethal" drug, when in reality the amount one would need to use to induce death is more than you could even take in (you need to smoke the equivalent of 6 Olympic sized swimming pools filled with cannabis in under 15 minutes in order to die from the chemicals in cannabis).
I had a Top Secret clearance in the service and I never took a lie detector test. Maybe other agencies use them for whatever, but they don't use them for back round security checks, at least not for the military. I had access to the nuclear release codes, so if they're not using them for people that had the kind of job, when would they use them?
@@readhistory2023 no you didn't
It was not being used for court.
Polygraphs are at best a stress test, not a lie detector test... The fact that the government still uses these is a downright embarrassment. I mean damn, they can just ask the NSA for all the info they could possibly want!
I would certainly agree with you that the polygraph causes anxiety and stress. Its a very intense experience. Having to sit perfectly still is madding. I had a polygraph examination about four years. I didn't pass because I was deceptive on two questions. My examiner, a woman, showed me on the chart where there was increase in my blood pressure when I lied. So I have mixed feelings about the polygraph. It exposed me, but others have told the truth and failed. By the way, I didn't get the job.
In most states, polygraphs are not admissible in court. The point of a polygraph is to intimidate, not to measure truth or lie.
Your second point is VERY true. Fear and pressure.
The fact that he was charged with obstructing justice shows how warped and perverted the word "justice" has become in this country.
Aren't polygraphs ignored in a courtroom?
Yes, polygraph tests are inadmissable as evidence...
Yes and what's interesting is that clearly, with the recent state of police activities, polygraph tests are not working. Which, is the reason they're not used in court.
Government can do as it pleases with people without due process. It has the power.
The last ten seconds of this video were the most important, I think.
I worked for a government agency for over seven years. It that period of time, I was polygraphed nine times including my pre-employment examination. My second exam was followed by a third one two weeks later. The whole idea of this is to prevent you from doing anything wrong. And for the most part it worked. I still remember that tan envelope on my desk instructing me to report for a polygraph exam that morning. And that elevator ride to the sixth floor with your heart beating like a trip-hammer. Very intense.
Wait so I can’t buy a book to understand about a silly instrument determining if I’m truthful without the government coming to my home???? I am not trying to beat the lie detector, I just don’t want the lie detector to lie about my truth 😂
Regardless of whether it works or not, I'd love to see politicians have to answer more than 10 follow up questions from the same journalist while hooked up to a polygraph. "Have you ever solicited sex from a prostitute? Have you ever sought out and viewed child pornography? Do you intend to uphold the constitution without compromise? Will you ever sell out the rights of the american people for your own personal gain? Have you ever forced someone to have sex with you? Have you ever done cocaine?"
Their response:
*loud sweating*
So I guess we're all going on a watchlist for viewing this then? See you on the inside.
We are already on a watchlist
1:50 and 3:03 Daaaaaaaaaaaamn...
👏 amazing
The scary part of a polygraph is the examiner who actually believes this nonsense.
Polygraphs have been proven to be insufficient
Penn & Teller already debunked the myth of the polygraph.
here it is: watch?v=bScv6kfxRyE
To quote my lawyer when asked about polygraphs ," Don't you fucking dare ." He seemed pretty serious about it.
How can someone be obstructing justice when the thing they're obstructing isn't valid evidence in a courtroom or enough for an arrest even?
I want to make a video teaching people how to beat a lie detector test to see if i get arrested.
The best way to beat the Polygraph is to change the meaning of all the words. I fully understand we do not both speak and understand the same language.
When I said black I mean a lack of colour but when most of you say black you mean a color its easy to take it one step farther. Now I say black and I really mean red. Did you misunderstand me, oh we don't have an agreed dictionary.
So they made records on who bought books on polygraph "for reasons of national security". Pretty sure the NSA made records of anyone watching this video on youtube.
Our country is going straight down the shitter.
No interest trumps constitutionally protected rights. Why do we let these liars get away with using that excuse over and over again?
Polygraphs are a pseudoscientific way of trying to ferret out the Snowdens of the world. They can be very nerve-wracking for some people. In fact, ten to fifteen percent of all participants can never pass a polygraph.
I lied in my lie detector test to a relevant question and i passed it. It actually measures signs of remorse... if you feel comfortable with something you did, you will show no reaction at all. Make sure to have reaction to the control question and you will pass. I did and i have been hire at the job i applied for.
The irony is that a manipulative criminal could easily pass it, and a scared innocent person usually won't! They should just flip the results backwards!
"MaMa!!" (Pacifier sucking sound)
He was not prosecuted for teaching people how to pass a polygraph. He was prosecuted for teaching specific people to lie on their upcoming polygraph who were applying for border guard jobs. Might want to read the real story.
Dear NSA. Good fucking luck!
@3:01, "I'm sorry ma'am, this isn't working... we're going to need to perform a strip search."
Gary Ridgeway the green river killer passed a lie detector and continued to kill for years
he's not the only serial killer to pass a lie detector test and continued killing Charles cullen also known as the angel of death did the Same thing
I don't see how this policy makes sense.
I expect that the people who present the most serious espionage threats will get this training anyway - and won't do it publicly, in easy view of the federal government.
So, pretending to guarantee the polygraph's efficacy against serious threats by prosecuting publicly visible trainers will yield only a false sense of security.
This reminds me of gun-free zones.
He essentially did the equivalent of saying "If you want to murder someone.. here's how you buy a gun" or "If you want to get high, here's how you can get Heroin" or "If you want to counterfeit, here's what you have to do". Now it might sound to someone not thinking about it that well, he's helping people lie to government officials, ie break the law. Except A) Those things are all against the law. Forcing someone to incriminate themselves...essentially what a polygraph is designed to do, isn't. Or shouldn't be B) Lie detectors aren't admissible in court anyway (unless that's been changed, I don't know). and C) The POINT of a lie detector is is to prove the truth. If someone IS able to beat it, by whatever method.. then they don't work. So.. what exactly is the crime he's breaking? Putting people in jail for this is Gestapo/Secret Police type stuff. EVERY American should oppose this strongly.
that doesn't matter. he should not have gotten in any trouble for that. imparting knowledge on someone is not a crime, and nor should it be treated as one. what happened to him there was absolutely wrong. besides, if cops are allowed to lie to citizens and go undercover and pretend to be someone they're not, then by logic, it should be just as ok vice versa, because citizens should have as many rights and as much freedoms as cops can have.
Funny how they can charge you for cheating the polygraph, which in of itself is completely inadmissible in a court of law. The statement about how the polygraph is accurate was funny. I also know that polygraph practitioners are TOLD to tell you that they know if you have used counter-measures. The real fact of the matter is, they don't know. As the gentlemen in the video stated, "polygraphs, are NOT lie detectors." He is correct.
Goverment has a right to k ow who bought that book? So a registry, if their keeping track of books then they must be keeping track of fire arms.
Ms. Taylor should take a polygraph just to see what's like. How about it Marisa? Just sit in that chair and get hooked up. Your whole life will flash before you. Answer all questions truthfully.
If the polygraph cannot be manipulated, why did they prosecute this guy? Right.
Ok, what kind of list has my name now that I saw this video?
I heard the NSA uses a Rubiks cube to determine if a person is going to give away secrets........and now have a Rubiks cube watch list.
Lol well we’re screwed watching this video.. NSA bout to knock on my door any minute now..
Polygraph evidence is not admissible in U.S.courts.
+george castro congratulations on your felony! Is it your first? It's so cute!
+eastervan1 troll much ?? and yes it is , i did 3 years for it .... learned my lesson , moved on and im now married , living a normal life , thanks lol
+eastervan1 haha wow , looks like u really needed this polygraph for many medical reasons ... anyways , my wife and i are happily married
george castro if they strapped me to a polygraph, I would fondle myself and speak in tongues. Then they can see the results. THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, MR. RICHARD FEYNMAN!
All you need to do is fool the control questions, when you have a random question, imagine yourself relaxing in bed, a nice warm bath etc, when you are given a control question imagine something horrible that has happened or could happen to you.
They're not admissible in court. Why would you agree to do a test that is inadmissible?
"You can't read that book... for your own protection."
These people are insane
Well, you know what they say about the guy who trades liberty for security....
What do they say?
They throw you in jail for anything. Just rebel against them
Damn this lady is stacked 😎
Pseudo science at its best.
Companies teaching them could simply go offshore. If you are not operating in the U.S., you cannot be prosecuted in the U.S.
First of all they aren't accurate, a person can tell the God's honest truth but be so terrified of law because of the situation, can show deception and they are really telling the truth
the most damaging moles in USI history ALL were required to take poly at lease every 5 years. depending on SAP access more often
The ONLY reason that lie detector tests aren't accepted in courts is because if they were, we would be able to use them on government members, police, judges, etc etc.
Phite Onn good theory
Ryan M True no? They're good enough for Jeremy Kyle and in the movies, just not in real life :)
Phite Onn TBH I think I would go as far to say. In the eyes of the powers that be, you can get lie detector tests but government officials, police etc can't unless internal investigations just straight up in equality wtf you gonna do.. But yeah, I never quite though of that idea and I believe its very likely to be true/legit. even in them tv shows im a little like is it accurate etc or all a big act.. Sometimes im gutted by results n shocked if it were true.
Ryan M Like many people you appear to have forgotten that civil servants work for us, we are their boss. Somewhere along the line it seems that the people have forgotten this and it is accepted that our civil servants tell us what to do. That aside, I believe all civil servants (people paid by our taxes including anyone in government, police, etc, or anyone that represents another) should have a very simple lie detector test which would merely test their integrity. If we are paying someone to represent us, then we have every right to know they are doing exactly that. They should pass 100%, why wouldn't they? If they didn't then they would be replaced. We'd soon weed out corruption. It's crazy really because if all the people said we want all our civil servants to take lie detector test, even if it's only 95% reliable, the government would have to do it - they work for us.
Phite Onn I think I briefly mentioned I do not agree that's how it should be (maybe was different comment)
The government is meant to serve the people but im not going to pretend they really give a fuck. In UK.... What you are saying is right but it won't work for certain people. The people who have power, invested interests. I'm just mostly agreeing with Russle brands ideas as it does prove out in news etc with some stuff he said and I can see it makes sense.
They should be our servants but its not the way it is in America or the uk as far as I have witnessed. Its sad n I hope there is hope for the future
Can you obstruct someone getting hired? That's the most ridiculous line of bullshit i've ever heard.
Time to start selling some books.
Awesome job polygraph girl.
Does it really matter when its being eroded internally from the top down...? Just saying
The govt has a right to know who bought a book! What nonsense is that? Here in the UK the govt would be laughed out of office if they wanted to know that kind of thing. Thankfully the polygraph is non existent here too, nobody would ever agree to it.
If these things are so inaccurate, then why do ppl need counter measures to beat them?
you can beat any polygraph is you believe the answers you are giving. pretty much the simplest way I can assert calm presence. basically, you need to master meditation and the practice or power of observation.
WHATS THE BOOK?! I want to buy a thousand of them.
Oh no... Burn Notice is now a criminal instruction manual.
They should arrest Pen Teller too.
the funny thing is anyone who taking this test will be stressed nervous so even if you telling the truth there is probability that you telling truth but cuze you stressed up it will tell that you lying
One question immediately comes to mind... Why would anyone in their right mind ever agree to take a polygraph test? Seriously, many people who ultimately end up in jail/prison probably wouldn't have been in that situation, if they'd just learn to keep their mouths shut in the first place. Do yourself a favor, invoke your 5th Amendment rights! It's as if people are just itching to talk to the authorities and tell them everything.
These trained polygraph administrators are either bullshitting or truly believe that their techniques work. I’ve passed a dozen polys while having to lie about non criminal behavior. Allot of the questions asked have nothing to do with criminality so i see them as invalid. Btw the test is only a small part if the interrogation. You have to play their game while admitting mostly nothing. If you piss them off they can fail u
is anything NOT "obstruction?" exactly what specific case or investigation were they "obstructing?"
The TRUTH is obstruction; obstruction to the purposes of a control state. And your question is a non-starter, because the matter was never tested at trial. The government succeeded in coercing self-incrimination; he copped.
How can you prove it was intent to pass a govt test and not for fun
It shouldn't land you in jail because they aren't even admissible in a Court of law, specifically BECAUSE of their unreliability, so they are little more than "entertainment" or pseudo-science.
So making it "illegal" to understand the tool shouldn't matter one bit. It can screw you even if you're perfect, (yes, statistically there is more of a chance that it will be accurate, but that doesn't change the fact that it can screw you, even if you're innocent, that CAN destroy your life) so it shouldn't matter if it doesn't screw you when you're not perfect and trying to beat it. We've also just learned that Ford, Kavanaugh's accuser was experienced with the Polygraph, so she clearly cheated her own, and may have taught someone else, thus lied in testimony.
Just by watching this video and commenting about it you are no being placed in big brother's list.
i came here because of the thumbnail
Teaching how to lie isn't the reason he was sentenced. He was telling them to lie, which is a crime. Anyone can still teach how to lie.
they are the worst. they lie constantly. they do the same things cops do--manipulate you into saying something that hurts you, whether it's true or not. DON'T TALK TO ANY OF THEM!
There is a computer program that is 80% effective at detecting lies. It studies facial tells and perhaps some other criteria. It will probably be available as a phone app in about 5 years!
BS. There is no Pinocchio affect when you lie. Your nose doesn’t grow, your breathing doesn’t necessarily increase, your heart rate doesn’t increase, your hands don’t sweat more when you lie. Facial expressions, pupil dilation, heart rate, sweaty hands and breathing are physiologic reactions to stimuli. Don’t let those selling this nonsense convince you, they’re just trying to make money and keep the scam going. Think of the old days of snake oil salesman, remedies to cure all.
Every time the President gives a speech, he should be hooked up to one. I know the Majority of Americans would support that, but too bad. Majority only counts when they say it does.
That's ridiculous polygraphs are only 50% accurate at best. They should outlaw the use of lie detectors.
more reason to pay cash
I have searched to find out who the actress (3:01) is but alas I haven't been able to identify her. Come on Internet, we can do it.
3:01 Psyop click bait “squirrel!”
Now they have torture.
Lie detector unnecessary when asking "do people intentionally put anything breasts into thumbnails?"
Most likely, teaching someone how to beat polygraphs is no different than talking about its unreliability.
dinosaur technology
Just another push to move the First Amendment offshore.
Last night I shit my bed......
you want to beat the tests? here you go.
* take a good beta blocker.( it will dull adrenal response. )
* imagine yourself doing the correct answer. ( if you believe it's true, it is.)
Steven Aftergood doesnt know a thing about polygraph. Is sad to hear what hes telling about control parts of our body ruling by the peripheral nervous system. Moronic statement
What a bunch of bullshit, National Security LMAO
beat it twice
+TK-420 I did yesterday. I'm waiting until 9 rolls around so I can beat it again.
if you want to beat it just be relax
+TK-420 you're going to federal prison! You just taught a lot of people how to beat a lie detector!!!!
+TK-420 I beat it every night in order to make me FEEL relaxed.
Her breasts are fantastic
How many less views would you get with a different thumbnail?
Video is a non sequiter - lie detectors don't need to be beaten
Just excuse not to do a real investigations into new and existing gov employees
Wow these guys are edgier than a scottish junkie
Didn't you just teach us? Oh, irony.
Welcome to The New Dark Ages
The only thing relevant in this video, it is the lady with dark grey shirt ----| Big Melons... LoL
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liedetectors are crappy and inaccurate
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Lies.. lies ..lies..
USSSA :D
But if they legit you couldn't manipulate them lmao 🤣😂 hacks