Pantheon can legit go in any role and scales like a monster. It's really funny because most people still think he falls off but the champ will one-shot you in a millisecond with 3 items.
I think it's because of how he's an Assassin/Duelist most of the time to most people but once you build more stuff off the usual builds you realize how much choices he has
Seems to be a pattern of these players having a huge problem with toxicity and then overcoming it to continue growing. Passion makes us do strange things!
I think the source of toxicity is expectations. Expecting your teammates to do x, expecting your lane to go X way. So when X does not happen - we either get surprised or annoyed as we are confused. Expecting nothing from your team is always the best way to play
@@dddmemaybe There is only three ways to play League correct 1- Don’t play it 2- Play only ARAM 3- Praise genocides in all chat when someone makes a mistake in your team If you are not one of these 3 then you are simply wasting your time
@@coffeez1595 ok maybe hes playable now after this season, but I would still debate that he is one of the worse jgers, someone hitting high elo with it just means any champ can just go 5 roles
Pantheon Senna is an insane bot duo because of Pantheon's ability to protect Senna from almost anything by killing them. He gets all the benefits listed in this video, while his team still gets an ADC. Senna provides sustain and poke in the lane and a global ultimate to support Pantheon's roams and can do work with the farm he leaves behind in the meantime. Pantheon makes it nearly impossible to punish Senna in lane via engages.
I actually played this combo with my duo yesterday and everything you listed works perfectly. Insane map pressure with a global and semi global, insane roaming power, really hard to gank with senna w+e and pantheon e and could even turn ganks with senna heal+q execute. You basically get 2 carries and 2 supports in bot lane that can cover each other weaknesses and can peel when the other person wants to do something. Pantheon dives? Senna can q pantheon hitting both the enemy and patheon. Pantheon cant push tower. Senna can hit tower while pantheon sits on senna and lets them work. Pantheon also almost always buys black cleaver anyway so that provides armor shred for senna as well. I think this pick can be improved further as we learn our duo.
As much as I appreciate the damage mitigation on Pantheon's E, I do miss his old E that was basically a paper shredder with its ludicrously high AD scaling
This video really inspired me as I've recently been playing Panth more and more as supp and Panth jg on Wild Rift. The thing about Panth supp is that he's really powerful but it's hard to carry when you're giving everything to your adc/team (+ the less gold income that you have as a supp) but, due to match ups, I never really wanted to play him Top and Mid in the recent seasons. I'll defo try this pick in a draft or smth and hopefully not int my teammates haha ^^' Thx for the great vid, Chime!
May I offer my all time favorite support combo with Panth ADC?? BRAUMTHEON! The shield brothers! Braum Q + Panth empowered W is a stun + 3 autos, which then stuns at the end from braum passive! Panth jumps on enemies, Braum jump onto Panth. They both have shield walls. But best of all… they both have Dragon Slayer skins. Gold Chroma for extra style points 👌
Just discovered your channel and I really enjoy the pace and depth of information. I find most content creators kinda cringe today, your presentations are high quality. Just came from Zac Mid and Ornn sup video. The tier list, the backstory for every player that plays these builds... Really nice job.
Can't wait to try this with my older brother. He loves swain, and I love pantheon. We are hardstuck bronze because of our teammates (whenever we play customs with our friends from platinum we play really good) I hope this helps us climb.
I meant that he spends no gold on armor pen really He gets so much for free from passives and armor shred. So no need for e.g shureldas grudge That's why the build is so efficient
When i first started taking getting better at LoL seriously (still not that good, but whatever) the friend who convinced me to one trick a champ said to pick Pantheon because you can play it in any role and just learn the game. It was true pre rework, and is still true now like 6 or 7 seasons later
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I have been playing an on hit Pantheon mid for like 2 years now. thats a PTA Eclipse BORK build, and for the other items most commonly i go essence reaver, lord dominiks and infinity edge, and it M E L T S people. I haven't tried it in high elo as i dont climb, but for low elo its amazing
@@MyaTimes4 yep, but I dont use it as much cuz i find the shield provided by eclipse a bit more useful, and it alo imo gives better mythic passive for panth
Okay, hear me out. Pantheon + Braum botlane. Panth can jump in and stun, Braum jumps to panth and by the time Panth's stun ends, Braums starts. And then you get TWO shields....
I think that rushing BORK is actually the best. You play around your empowered W and you do 80% of a champs health with it. It's the biggest early powerspike pantheon gets, and I go that first every game I play him. It's disgusting really.
It's fine top but doesn't do much Vs ADCs since they don't buy much hp and thus eclipse does more damage. Could be ok Vs a tank supp but again eclipse has % DMG too so it's just a great option
@@HappyChimeNoises it's not about the health. Current health damage or max health damage, its not only for tanks. Sure it'll do more damage to tanks because they have more health. But relatively speaking, looking at health pools, it all does a % of someone's health. So you'll bring the adc to kill range AND a health stacker to kill range. Both remain with like 20-30% hp. And that's when your q does extra damage. Eclipse is pretty underwhelming. It doesn't even do that much. I go bork - stridebreaker - black cleaver. More utility, can't die, still one shooting. Only problem is playing around your passive w, which takes time to get used to. Thanks for commenting ^^
So weird thing about the range thing. It’s actually a little misleading. While yes, ADC attack range tends to be in the 550 range and Pantheon’s W has 600 range, attack range and ability range work completely differently. Attack range is edge to edge while ability range is center to center. If that was confusing, think of it like this. Every champion has a hurt box that is a circle. In order to basic attack another champion, then the distance between the edges of those circles needs to be within the range. But to use an ability, the distance between the centers needs to be within the range. So if both champions had radius 50, then you can use a 500 attack range at the same distance you can use a 600 ability range. Most champions have a radius bigger than 50, so Pantheon’s W actually doesn’t outrange any ADC’s.
I really wanna play and experiment with more melee bot lane picks. I've gotten really bored of marksmen for the most part since in low elo it always evolves into "which team has a better comp" most of the time it feels like.
tear really only feels good in adc role, because hes behind in levels. Otherwise it just seems like its too much of a power loss during some of your strongest moments in the early game
Guys, armor pen =/= armor reduction. Armor pen lowers the enemy armor for a percentage ONLY for the person with armor pen. Armor reduction lowers the targets' armor so EVERYONE on his team can deal more damage. Thats why black cleaver is important, and he said the build has no armor pen in context of buying flat armor pen as a stat (like LDR)
My friend and I climbed to diamond just going pantheon Leona bot. As the panth. I start pta with longsword. You just gotta survive the level 1 and in some cases level 2. But the burst and engage is so unfair to face it's almost sad. There is virtually nothing that counters us except heimerdinger and Ezreal. And we ban both. Rest of the game is just macro and micro. Abusing the lead and forcing it elsewhere with Leona roams or pantheon R roams.
I've seen Spear Shot run Sunderer over Eclipse a few times and it seemed really good when testing aswell. I assume our adc Panth runs Eclipse for the movespeed?
@@Jemme95 especially vs. tanks, Sunderer healing is way more than Eclipse lifesteal, while also being 1.5 seconds cd instead of Eclipse 8 seconds. The hp is about as much as the shield, while both give a (small) amount of % pen. As said: I can only see the MS benefit.
@@UncleRimo The % pen is probably the least important part of Eclipse for Pantheon since hsi ult naturally de-scales it. The shield, lethality, omnivamp, and movespeed are the major factors.
When ne me and my friend played solo q together, we legit just spammed Pantheon mid + Rell support, crazy lane earlygame with pantheon and good roams, and great teamfighting with Rell. He oneshots squishes and armor shreds tanks, and I can just stun everyone for like 4 seconds. I had 70% winrate on Rell and his Pantheon winrate was similar. I should tell him to try panth adc lol.
Look at zhonyas jarvan IV it’s a super fun build and I’d never heard of it till I played jarvan support for fun and found out it’s porofessors recommended build for the role
34th let’s goooooooooo (34th to comment not 34th to watch the video and also love your videos your off meta build videos inspired me to expirement with off meta builds some were bad some were really good as always keep up the work.)
This is a great video but it reminds me of a video done by a smaller youtuber named identity crisis and i feel like he focuses much more in on the build, give it a look if you want some more off meta.
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Pantheon can legit go in any role and scales like a monster. It's really funny because most people still think he falls off but the champ will one-shot you in a millisecond with 3 items.
Spearshot enjoyer?
I think it's because of how he's an Assassin/Duelist most of the time to most people but once you build more stuff off the usual builds you realize how much choices he has
Not only can he legit go in any role but he can legit build just about anything and it's most likely fine.
@@darkienl5886 yesssss
@@darkienl5886 I am indeed. But I've always played panth even before I found him.
Seems to be a pattern of these players having a huge problem with toxicity and then overcoming it to continue growing. Passion makes us do strange things!
If you are not a toxic player then you are not playing League correct
He's playing pantheon, obviously he would overcome all things
@@Zepp- Nah, playing League correct is stopping playing more than a handful of games in a row rather than getting tired and cringing.
I think the source of toxicity is expectations. Expecting your teammates to do x, expecting your lane to go X way.
So when X does not happen - we either get surprised or annoyed as we are confused.
Expecting nothing from your team is always the best way to play
@@dddmemaybe There is only three ways to play League correct
1- Don’t play it
2- Play only ARAM
3- Praise genocides in all chat when someone makes a mistake in your team
If you are not one of these 3 then you are simply wasting your time
They did It, they made pantheon a 5 role champion.
Like Teemo. Damn, both are quite flexible if you know what you're doing.
@@KhriZippy teemo is really not that playable in jg(someone hit urgot masters in all 5 roles tho)
@@d4s0n282 manco tho??
@@coffeez1595 ok maybe hes playable now after this season, but I would still debate that he is one of the worse jgers, someone hitting high elo with it just means any champ can just go 5 roles
@@d4s0n282 I mean he's def not good. Manco just has good macro which is all that really matters in the jg.
"Dreadboss has nothing to promote aside from Pantheon"
The name, the champ, the swagger, amazing.
Agreed. What a chad.
B A S E D mentality
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Pantheon Senna is an insane bot duo because of Pantheon's ability to protect Senna from almost anything by killing them. He gets all the benefits listed in this video, while his team still gets an ADC. Senna provides sustain and poke in the lane and a global ultimate to support Pantheon's roams and can do work with the farm he leaves behind in the meantime. Pantheon makes it nearly impossible to punish Senna in lane via engages.
Plus even if they build armor Pantheon still shreds them
I actually played this combo with my duo yesterday and everything you listed works perfectly. Insane map pressure with a global and semi global, insane roaming power, really hard to gank with senna w+e and pantheon e and could even turn ganks with senna heal+q execute. You basically get 2 carries and 2 supports in bot lane that can cover each other weaknesses and can peel when the other person wants to do something. Pantheon dives? Senna can q pantheon hitting both the enemy and patheon. Pantheon cant push tower. Senna can hit tower while pantheon sits on senna and lets them work. Pantheon also almost always buys black cleaver anyway so that provides armor shred for senna as well. I think this pick can be improved further as we learn our duo.
@toastedmarsh6185 glad to hear! I think its a duo with insane agency in game
Has nothing to promote other than Pantheon. a true legend.
I used to play lots of panth bot with a premade galio sup, and it was a lot of fun, but I never expected it to actually be viable haha
Me but me and my friend would do pantheon and mordekaiser bot
Me and a friend have been doing the same thing and we have an 80% win rate on it lol
Your videos basically inspired me to go creative and now i'm experimenting too. Thx a lot
I play pantheon top , jngl , mid and sometimes support now it's time to complete the collection
Same here lmao
Pantheon is the main character of league and this proves it
As a person who's been playing pantheon ADC for a while now, this helps, thank you
As much as I appreciate the damage mitigation on Pantheon's E, I do miss his old E that was basically a paper shredder with its ludicrously high AD scaling
More or less you have that on velbeth now
Not damage mitigation. Literally makes you take 0 damage if aimed properly
Mitigation 💀💀
@@omega7057 Old Pantheon's E ability was aoe, but Bel'veth's is single target.
@@berdiebert1 then play urgot maybe
I got most of my mastery on Panth going hail with kraken cheese when it was true damage, and I didn't even think to try it bot. Gonna try now.
This video really inspired me as I've recently been playing Panth more and more as supp and Panth jg on Wild Rift. The thing about Panth supp is that he's really powerful but it's hard to carry when you're giving everything to your adc/team (+ the less gold income that you have as a supp) but, due to match ups, I never really wanted to play him Top and Mid in the recent seasons.
I'll defo try this pick in a draft or smth and hopefully not int my teammates haha ^^'
Thx for the great vid, Chime!
As one handsome pantheon player once said
“Pantheon is just the AD kassadin” 😎
Wait til they see actual AD Kassadin
@@DrSlobGoblin crit 4.5 ats lethal tempo Kassadin support
I love BorK on Pantheon. It makes his empowered W chunk enemies so hard
Ifkr that one item alone is fucking busted on pantheon
Pair it with Kraken Slayer and Rage blade and watch the squishies tremble in fear.
literally just got destroyed by panth adc then this video pops up on my feed 5 minutes later. That guy must've insta-clicked on this video lol
Awesome video Chime as always you make our fridays much more fun!
At this point you can play this champ in any role
true, League's perfect champ, I think
Old Kayle vibes
Panth + Blitz was my best duo bot ever to play with a friend
May I offer my all time favorite support combo with Panth ADC??
BRAUMTHEON!
The shield brothers!
Braum Q + Panth empowered W is a stun + 3 autos, which then stuns at the end from braum passive!
Panth jumps on enemies, Braum jump onto Panth.
They both have shield walls.
But best of all… they both have Dragon Slayer skins.
Gold Chroma for extra style points 👌
Just discovered your channel and I really enjoy the pace and depth of information. I find most content creators kinda cringe today, your presentations are high quality. Just came from Zac Mid and Ornn sup video.
The tier list, the backstory for every player that plays these builds... Really nice job.
Thank you!!
this video is the reason i had a first time adc pantheon in my game
Great video, HappyChimeNoises! Very fun build and play style!
Can't wait to try this with my older brother. He loves swain, and I love pantheon. We are hardstuck bronze because of our teammates (whenever we play customs with our friends from platinum we play really good) I hope this helps us climb.
This build has 0% armor penetration
'shows Eclipse'
and also Panth has built in armor pen too lol
I meant that he spends no gold on armor pen really
He gets so much for free from passives and armor shred.
So no need for e.g shureldas grudge
That's why the build is so efficient
@@HappyChimeNoises Yeah. Eclipse + Black Cleaver already give everything you need.
Drops banger Pantheon tips, doesn’t have any socials to promote, refuses to elaborate, leaves. What a chad Dreadboss is, a true Pantheon main.
When i first started taking getting better at LoL seriously (still not that good, but whatever) the friend who convinced me to one trick a champ said to pick Pantheon because you can play it in any role and just learn the game. It was true pre rework, and is still true now like 6 or 7 seasons later
this guy is making the off-meta, THE META
I REALLY love Pantheon Karma duo. You have enough press, damage, peel, CC and powerful movespeed
2:53 that bard+akali ult
Maybe you should make a video about spear shot's pantheon top, his blade of the ruined King build is interesting
Spearshot isn't exactly an off-meta player, and is way more well known than most of the players featured on the channel. Bossa is Chad af tho
I've decided to transition into Pantheon ADC and it's literally the only thing I play right now. I honestly feel like I'm doing things again!
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1:33 Aah, the good old Shakedrizzle Montages... those were the days
lots of high elo players: "pantheon isnt great, falls off late game and cant scale"
dreadboss: "now what if i made him scale??"
Most high elo players know he scales now. It's just the general playerbase that still thinks he falls off due to the fact that he has a bad mid-game.
@@mastergamer132e4 meanwhile spearshot be like " panth is ad kassadin trust"
Pantheon is officially a 5 role flex now pog
as another master pantheon one trick im now glad i can press fill and play any role with panth
I have been playing an on hit Pantheon mid for like 2 years now. thats a PTA Eclipse BORK build, and for the other items most commonly i go essence reaver, lord dominiks and infinity edge, and it M E L T S people. I haven't tried it in high elo as i dont climb, but for low elo its amazing
Kraken Slayer with BORK is also insanely hilarious
@@MyaTimes4 yep, but I dont use it as much cuz i find the shield provided by eclipse a bit more useful, and it alo imo gives better mythic passive for panth
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LESSGO ANOTHER PANTHEON ADC ENJOYER, AND EVEN A MASTER TIER
so pantheon is for every role? Pantheon mains have really good life.
Okay, hear me out. Pantheon + Braum botlane. Panth can jump in and stun, Braum jumps to panth and by the time Panth's stun ends, Braums starts. And then you get TWO shields....
I think that rushing BORK is actually the best. You play around your empowered W and you do 80% of a champs health with it. It's the biggest early powerspike pantheon gets, and I go that first every game I play him. It's disgusting really.
It's fine top but doesn't do much Vs ADCs since they don't buy much hp and thus eclipse does more damage.
Could be ok Vs a tank supp but again eclipse has % DMG too so it's just a great option
@@HappyChimeNoises it's not about the health. Current health damage or max health damage, its not only for tanks. Sure it'll do more damage to tanks because they have more health. But relatively speaking, looking at health pools, it all does a % of someone's health. So you'll bring the adc to kill range AND a health stacker to kill range. Both remain with like 20-30% hp. And that's when your q does extra damage.
Eclipse is pretty underwhelming. It doesn't even do that much. I go bork - stridebreaker - black cleaver. More utility, can't die, still one shooting. Only problem is playing around your passive w, which takes time to get used to.
Thanks for commenting ^^
Time to try this in my ranked games!
Cant wait to go into a game tommorow and seeing a pantheon on my bot lane
seems like i got a new adc to try out
also you can block a karthus ult. If you e towards him
i mean, this shouldnt be an uncommon role for pantheon. ADC literally means attack damage carry, doesnt say it has to be ranged, nor should it be
Ah yes now I can give my randos a reason why I play him without the usual builds
Lol, cant wait to try this
oh boy here we go again
So weird thing about the range thing. It’s actually a little misleading.
While yes, ADC attack range tends to be in the 550 range and Pantheon’s W has 600 range, attack range and ability range work completely differently. Attack range is edge to edge while ability range is center to center.
If that was confusing, think of it like this. Every champion has a hurt box that is a circle. In order to basic attack another champion, then the distance between the edges of those circles needs to be within the range. But to use an ability, the distance between the centers needs to be within the range. So if both champions had radius 50, then you can use a 500 attack range at the same distance you can use a 600 ability range. Most champions have a radius bigger than 50, so Pantheon’s W actually doesn’t outrange any ADC’s.
I remember I tried it, I was senna "adc" and he did all the damage and made diamond players look bronze for a surrender at 17 minutes
18:24
You clearly don't know Spear Shot, he never misses his r
So we can play pantheon in every role like heimer? Cool!
Dreadboss is the new Mantheon, step away Spearshot
Ayo more melee adc picks I love to see it! I have something to play besides my Morde bot carry pick now! ^^
Before you said how bans I was thinking in my head Caitlin would probably be the only thing you can play or ezreal lol
I really wanna play and experiment with more melee bot lane picks. I've gotten really bored of marksmen for the most part since in low elo it always evolves into "which team has a better comp" most of the time it feels like.
if you play a more offensive support, like a hook support, or a pyke for example, going PTA into Kraken Slayer and BORK makes any botlaner melt
As a top liner i hate ranged matchups however this man chooses the path of the eternal torment.
tear really only feels good in adc role, because hes behind in levels. Otherwise it just seems like its too much of a power loss during some of your strongest moments in the early game
SpearShot approves your video 🗿🍷
Be interested in trying this with Orianna support. Ball's bonus armor/mr would help mitigate poke and the speed-up would be nasty.
"This build has no armour pen" eclipse black cleaver rush giving 30% pen + 5% mythic passive + 12 flat pen from lethality
And the passive pen on his he gets from ult
Guys, armor pen =/= armor reduction. Armor pen lowers the enemy armor for a percentage ONLY for the person with armor pen. Armor reduction lowers the targets' armor so EVERYONE on his team can deal more damage. Thats why black cleaver is important, and he said the build has no armor pen in context of buying flat armor pen as a stat (like LDR)
"11:15 For his ad carry build, which btw has 0 armor pen" then showing Eclipse Blackcleaver xd
My friend and I climbed to diamond just going pantheon Leona bot.
As the panth. I start pta with longsword.
You just gotta survive the level 1 and in some cases level 2. But the burst and engage is so unfair to face it's almost sad. There is virtually nothing that counters us except heimerdinger and Ezreal. And we ban both.
Rest of the game is just macro and micro. Abusing the lead and forcing it elsewhere with Leona roams or pantheon R roams.
What about Morgana
I've seen Spear Shot run Sunderer over Eclipse a few times and it seemed really good when testing aswell.
I assume our adc Panth runs Eclipse for the movespeed?
MS, as well as the shield, the burst it gives with 2 spells, the lifesteal and ofc the armourpen passive
@@Jemme95 especially vs. tanks, Sunderer healing is way more than Eclipse lifesteal, while also being 1.5 seconds cd instead of Eclipse 8 seconds.
The hp is about as much as the shield, while both give a (small) amount of % pen.
As said: I can only see the MS benefit.
@@UncleRimo isn't it also cheaper? The Eclipse? Also maybe he likes the lethality more than the dmg u get from Divine
@@UncleRimo The % pen is probably the least important part of Eclipse for Pantheon since hsi ult naturally de-scales it. The shield, lethality, omnivamp, and movespeed are the major factors.
@@Jemme95 you're right, it's 200g cheaper. Maybe the lethality is more overall dmg than Sunderer passive, good idea.
Fun thing I tried with a pantheon adc, Sejuani with her passive its a free stun
He says no armour pen in the build then proceeds to list Eclipse and Black cleaver
Hello! I was wondering if you had a link to the songs you normally use in your videos like this one. I find them really relaxing. Thanks!
what is this off meta tier list with shaco support being in A - that's a KEKW right there
Would love to watch a stream or UA-cam or this dude
Good stuff
I've been playing this pick for a good while and it works just a little too well
I just tried this and won 3 out of 4 games in ranked, I even got a penta, its really op against immobile adcs
When ne me and my friend played solo q together, we legit just spammed Pantheon mid + Rell support, crazy lane earlygame with pantheon and good roams, and great teamfighting with Rell. He oneshots squishes and armor shreds tanks, and I can just stun everyone for like 4 seconds. I had 70% winrate on Rell and his Pantheon winrate was similar. I should tell him to try panth adc lol.
alright, booting a game with pantheon adc right now, wish me luck to have non toxic team mates
Look at zhonyas jarvan IV it’s a super fun build and I’d never heard of it till I played jarvan support for fun and found out it’s porofessors recommended build for the role
34th let’s goooooooooo (34th to comment not 34th to watch the video and also love your videos your off meta build videos inspired me to expirement with off meta builds some were bad some were really good as always keep up the work.)
Im definitely sending this Video to spear shot haha
"His inner toxicity held him back"
Omg its someone like me
"Stuck in Diamond 4"
Fuck this game
There's a leblank support too
guys try out pantheon leona botlane, we literally never lost with this combo :D
Leona Can Not Tower Dive With Panth As Well As Malz Support. 😎
when I was building manamune on pantheon they called me crazy
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“What role do you play?”
“Pantheon”
Can we get a review of spearshot pls?
Imagine playing such easy hero like Pantheon :P
7:27 why is jhin here
So he is playing support Pantheon but in the ADC role?
any updates on the mundo adc build tho bc it seems like it went away? or like what do i build
Pantheon is the GIGACHAD of League of Legends.
he was but now we have ksante
but I think pantheon's personality would more match gigachad
eclipse + black cleaver = no armor pen?
This is a great video but it reminds me of a video done by a smaller youtuber named identity crisis and i feel like he focuses much more in on the build, give it a look if you want some more off meta.
Second after Chime
is that laudandus the sheik player at 1:35??
*how yuumi support got to iron*