John Bonham isolated drum track from the song "Kashmir", the sixth song of Physical Graffiti (1975). Support the channel with a donation: ko-fi.com/ludwigson
The thing that makes all of Bonhams' tracks come to life is his hi hat pulse and rock solid foot and snare bombs. His son hacks and drags and lags when playing this track. Jason is nothing like Pops here. If I've said it before I have said it a dozen times -- John was the glue in Zep that held everything together with John Paul Jones. There is something that breaths in his hi hat pulses in between the 2 and 4 that brings everything into a heartbeat pulse. It really breathes life into everything this chap plays on. He does not waffle on the timing / meter. You know where the meter and 1 is. His snare blasts help lock in the 2 and 4 so you do not wander off in the weeds when playing the guitar part. I played his drum parts (Tried playing at age 5 and onwards that is) before switching to guitar later on a few years later. When playing the guitar track with other drummers, they simply fumble fuck it wherein, the meter drags and continues spiraling downhill in tempo. It drives me mad to the point I have to stop before smashing a guitar out of frustration. I hear other drummers also do the same thing or wobble in meter to the point of retarding the feel from the start of the tune or worse, have to speed up to catch up when using sequencers for the synth parts live. This track, if one really listens, the way his hi hat fills the space and talks in between the snare and bass drum is something I never noticed until hearing it isolated. It is almost like a call and response in blues music. It is not a compression gate effect. Bonham mixes himself so perfectly that all of his instruments are so well balanced. Other people try to stomp the shit out of the kick or snare and lose the timekeeping aspect of the tick-tock clock like sound. I really love Bonhams' ability to mix himself and the way he always has that tick-tock thing going on like in Custard Pie. It locks the ear and heart in instantly thus making the entire body just move to the groove. I love lots of different drummers. So many are very gifted and musically flow like wine. John Henry Bonham was The Master Timekeeper.
Kashmir is one of the greatest songs ever written for many reasons but for me it’s the drumming. It’s got such a hypnotic groove, you never want it to stop.
A lot of drummers play two distinct notes on the bass drum when playing this song, it drives me nuts! I’ve yet to hear anyone land that DuDuh properly! Not to mention those ghost notes on the snare… This groove really breathes!
The kick drum was run through a Binson Echorec. Bonham only does the kick drum once and then the Binson kicks in and adds that second kick. This is on the verse parts. The other parts don't have the Binson. The phaser on the drums/cymbals is an Eventide Clockworks PS 101.
That kettle flare at 8:07 is what separated Bonham from his contemporaries. Not that it was ever an even playing field. Bonham was simply a force of nature.
It is bloody astonishing how a powerhouse drummer like Bonham, known for his thunderous intensity, delivers his most compelling performance when he is restrained and tempered, as he is on "Kashmir." Particularly when it crashes down around 4:15
Listening to this amazing sound and looking at this John’s pic took me back to my childhood, I had a big teddy bear I called Bonzo, the unkempt hair reminded me of the bear's messy fur... ❤
John Bonham’s drumming was like a battering ram. Like I posted in James Maher cover of communication breakdown. John Bonham was a beast before the term was coined and popularized.
While John is one of my favorite drummers, this is just such a stupid comment. FFS, go look up Stan Bicknell. His groove was fucking phenomenal, his foot was just better than anyone else...AT THE TIME.
you can get echo-like sounds with reverb, but ultimately echo/delay would be smarter and easier. The whole "natural echo in the hallway of Headley Grange" has been proven to be BS, as they used an echo to achieve that When The Levee Breaks sound. This is completely different to my ears though; more obviously a doubled bass drum because of the inconsistency of the doubled note
@@tanneryordan The stairwell 8snt bs but they probably used both. Yeh the bass Dr feffinately sounds played to me as you say its not consistent from 1 beat to the next
The argument rages on till this day wether the second ghost on the bass is actualy played or a product of the mix.I personaly think Bonzo played it and im happy to live with that.He was just that good.
It's actually 2 room mics on channel 2 and 3, and then one channel put through eventide phaser. And that's pretty much it! The verb comes from the staircase where it was recorded.
You were thinking in the right direction because the effects, while different with how they operate, end up sounding quite similar! I didn't mean to sound like a smartass, just wanted to share the info because I learned about it recently and wanted to share. Have a nice day! @@giantclam1822
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The thing that makes all of Bonhams' tracks come to life is his hi hat pulse and rock solid foot and snare bombs. His son hacks and drags and lags when playing this track. Jason is nothing like Pops here. If I've said it before I have said it a dozen times -- John was the glue in Zep that held everything together with John Paul Jones. There is something that breaths in his hi hat pulses in between the 2 and 4 that brings everything into a heartbeat pulse. It really breathes life into everything this chap plays on. He does not waffle on the timing / meter. You know where the meter and 1 is. His snare blasts help lock in the 2 and 4 so you do not wander off in the weeds when playing the guitar part.
I played his drum parts (Tried playing at age 5 and onwards that is) before switching to guitar later on a few years later. When playing the guitar track with other drummers, they simply fumble fuck it wherein, the meter drags and continues spiraling downhill in tempo. It drives me mad to the point I have to stop before smashing a guitar out of frustration.
I hear other drummers also do the same thing or wobble in meter to the point of retarding the feel from the start of the tune or worse, have to speed up to catch up when using sequencers for the synth parts live.
This track, if one really listens, the way his hi hat fills the space and talks in between the snare and bass drum is something I never noticed until hearing it isolated. It is almost like a call and response in blues music. It is not a compression gate effect. Bonham mixes himself so perfectly that all of his instruments are so well balanced. Other people try to stomp the shit out of the kick or snare and lose the timekeeping aspect of the tick-tock clock like sound.
I really love Bonhams' ability to mix himself and the way he always has that tick-tock thing going on like in Custard Pie. It locks the ear and heart in instantly thus making the entire body just move to the groove.
I love lots of different drummers. So many are very gifted and musically flow like wine. John Henry Bonham was The Master Timekeeper.
Bass drum kicking like a heartbeat
Kashmir is one of the greatest songs ever written for many reasons but for me it’s the drumming. It’s got such a hypnotic groove, you never want it to stop.
It's very therapeutic almost like driving a car
It's a perfect riff.
It builds, then cascades into the next measure only to repeat itself again and again and again....
How I love all these isolated drums in your vids. I could listen to Bonzo tap a desk with pencils and never tire of it 😊
An Immersion set with just Bonham's isolated tracks is at the TOP of my wanted List.
A lot of drummers play two distinct notes on the bass drum when playing this song, it drives me nuts! I’ve yet to hear anyone land that DuDuh properly! Not to mention those ghost notes on the snare… This groove really breathes!
Agree 100%. That second note on the kick is more like a ghost note. Even Jason Bonham didn’t play it right. 😂
The kick drum was run through a Binson Echorec. Bonham only does the kick drum once and then the Binson kicks in and adds that second kick. This is on the verse parts. The other parts don't have the Binson. The phaser on the drums/cymbals is an Eventide Clockworks PS 101.
@@ChannelingJohnBonham but its different t everything. If it was echo its sound the se all the time
I think bonzos doubling it up
@@ChannelingJohnBonhamthe binson echorec was used on When The Levee Breaks.. not Kashmir
@@BamBam_PDXjason doesn’t even try to sound like his dad it seems. it kind of annoys me although i understand he wants to be himself as much as he can
One word: Legend ❤️
That kettle flare at 8:07 is what separated Bonham from his contemporaries. Not that it was ever an even playing field. Bonham was simply a force of nature.
Great comment
No Bonham... No Led Zeppelin.
Is he going over to the timpani on that? I never noticed. I thought it was just the phaser on the snare drum.
This is quite awesome!! Thank you.
Thank you. Always wanted to hear him alone. Dope as fuck.
It is bloody astonishing how a powerhouse drummer like Bonham, known for his thunderous intensity, delivers his most compelling performance when he is restrained and tempered, as he is on "Kashmir."
Particularly when it crashes down around 4:15
The true definition of what it means to "be in the pocket" and asleep at the wheel.
filthy groove from this guy every time
Listening to this amazing sound and looking at this John’s pic took me back to my childhood, I had a big teddy bear I called Bonzo, the unkempt hair reminded me of the bear's messy fur... ❤
My first dog was called Bonzo after the great one.
John Bonham’s drumming was like a battering ram. Like I posted in James Maher cover of communication breakdown. John Bonham was a beast before the term was coined and popularized.
Do you realise, you Youngest dudes, that Bonzo used a SINGLE BASS DRUM FOR ALL CAREER ! A Phenomea drum player, i tell you guys!
No he didn’t - he had a Double Bass kit in late 68’ and parts of ‘69. Plenty of videos you can see it featured in.
He used a Double Bass Kit for at least one show. Photo Documented. But Jimmy and Plant told Him NO! He didn’t need it. And as We know. He did not!
While John is one of my favorite drummers, this is just such a stupid comment. FFS, go look up Stan Bicknell. His groove was fucking phenomenal, his foot was just better than anyone else...AT THE TIME.
Double pedal is cool and meant for metal not rock
God bless him.
just wonderful !
The drums are played slightly off beat to the guitar but the high hat keeps steady on the beat. That's crazy.
2:51
First beat accented on the kick, second with less power, feathered almost. Thats how I play it to get that heartbeat going
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD thank you
There was John Henry Bonham- then everyone else..
Only two U87 captured this timeless awesomeness. The master mixed himself live.
Wonder how they placed them
@@user-zn8uo67pd Engineer said when interviewed they were placed on the sides.
his beat sounds so simple... until it doesn't.
Agreed
Wow! Can you isolate drums from the live 1979 Knebworth one?
Iv always suspect he eas doubling the bass drum. Consensus was its just reverb but there's sound like he's doing 9t!!
you can get echo-like sounds with reverb, but ultimately echo/delay would be smarter and easier. The whole "natural echo in the hallway of Headley Grange" has been proven to be BS, as they used an echo to achieve that When The Levee Breaks sound. This is completely different to my ears though; more obviously a doubled bass drum because of the inconsistency of the doubled note
@@tanneryordan
The stairwell 8snt bs but they probably used both.
Yeh the bass Dr feffinately sounds played to me as you say its not consistent from 1 beat to the next
Is it a double kick or a single with an echo?
The bass drum only gives one hit, it sounds double because of the atmosphere, right?
The argument rages on till this day wether the second ghost on the bass is actualy played or a product of the mix.I personaly think Bonzo played it and im happy to live with that.He was just that good.
It's obvious he's doing double
Who else plays this far back on the beat? Eric Kretz, Tony Thompson....anyone else? 🤔
Then, why can’t you hear a double note during the chorus is definitely playing a double hit on the kick and I can nail the shit out of it
Who else is singing the eeeeeeeeeeeww on the breakdown?
Bass drum is flanged and echoed
Yep. Interludes really pronounced with effects...
It's actually 2 room mics on channel 2 and 3, and then one channel put through eventide phaser. And that's pretty much it! The verb comes from the staircase where it was recorded.
@@Txiki6x I stand corrected..why I said flange is beyond me lol.
You were thinking in the right direction because the effects, while different with how they operate, end up sounding quite similar! I didn't mean to sound like a smartass, just wanted to share the info because I learned about it recently and wanted to share. Have a nice day! @@giantclam1822
Love this track, but the production sounds like shit compared to other tracks I've heard from him.