You saved me! I had exactly this problem at the beginning. I used a shorter stroke and my colours wouldn‘t pack into the skin. Now I use a 4.2 stroke and it‘s perfect for my blackwork/realism stuff. Thank you for your advice!
I have personally taken Joshua's 1on1 Zoom seminar. It changed everything for me. If you can afford it, do it. If you can't afford it, spend less money elsewhere and take the seminar. Its not just a lecture. It is a personally crafted 1on1 with Joshua talking about the challenges YOU have. Don't wait, DO IT!!!
What most don’t realize is how the difference in how a needle strikes the skin with different stroke lengths can really be compensated for by just adjusting your hand speed and stretch… once you figure out how to utilize those variables the way a machine actually runs becomes secondary… the best part about rotary pen style machines aside from those comfort would be the amount of feedback you get to your hand… I found that the be one of the biggest benefits in my experience…
@@carltontattoo 100% it’s unfortunate this is the stuff that is lacking when mentors take on apprentices these days…I try and explain this to coworkers as often as the opportunity arises… Ps, your work is still as stunning as I ever remember seeing it! Keep spreading the good word man!🙏🏼
Right!? That’s mostly what I do as well. Once you learn how to use pressure and skin stretching techniques it’s amazing what you can achieve.:) thanks for watching.
Thanks for explaining this. I was pretty confused by what stroke lengh does. I am 4 month in tattooing and my first rotary(Ego switch) starts falling apart. So I am slowly looking for what to replace it with. Hi from Czech republic ✌️
totally agree but will add from my expiriene adding a little bit give we usually think the machine will become softer hitting but in fact it will become softer at first impact on the skin at the beginning but this will make the needle spend more time in the skin and even let us be able to push with our hand more comfortably without being affraid to go to deep and i feel more give or softer bar is better for lining and color packing than a machine with no give or using a hard bar on the inkjecta
Thank you for the info. I’m kind a new were in the past like two or three years to struggling. So I found it very helpful. I’m also finding that I definitely prefer little bit longer struggling around for 4.2. But thank you
i love me a long stroke! been starting to dabble with these battery-powered machines and so far they all have the stupid 3.5 throw. gonna have to take the plunge and get something with a 4 or 5 to get my feel back to what I did with my coils i think.
Thank you this was confusing me from coil machine dime like 2mm throw then rotary is 4mm and I don’t get if it really moves that much that means the tattoo cart is going alll the way in and out the tip of the tube and maybe bad idk
I maybe wrong but the way I understand stroke length is that the 4mm stroke seems harder because it takes a longer turning distance on cam…… it’s builds up more kinetic energy therefore hits the skin harder.
I just ordered the new cam for my bishop V6, when I ordered the machine I got the 3.5mm stroke because it was the default and I had no clue on my preferences. Today my new cam should be here giving me a 4.2mm stroke, I'm going to test it on myself first before a paying client. What I would like to know is how it effects your lining?
"throw" was used to refer to coil machines. how far the armature bar would throw the needle down to the coil top. still the same as stroke for rotaries. just older terminology.
What’s up dude! Commented back and forth with you on TSA. Interested in a 1 on 1 seminar for black and grey realism since that is 90% of what I focus on.
Really nice work, can you tell me what equipment your using to record such clear quality videos. iPhone, or DSLR camera?/ ring light/ tripod / lighting? Editing app/ programsThank you Also how can I get hold of seminars you have out
Hey man, Thanks for the informative video. How does stroke length translate for lines? Does it mean 2.5mm would be good for a small 1-5 liner? And 4 for maybe bigger groups?
I probably have like 8 tattoo machines & some say something about strokes I'm just like hu😮 😅 so that's why I'm here. Recently bought another fancy one & cost wayyy more & says something about strokes😮 I'm learning. Trying to understand
Hi! Hope u can help me.. I just got this rotary with different tension bars.. now is that the same as changing the stroke?Manual just said changes the hit of the machine..is it referring to stroke?
I’m a beginner so I’ll explain both too.. STROKE is how far (UP & DOWN ) the machine is moving the needle, that distance⬆️⬇️ is measured in millimeters. THROW is how much of the needl’s (TIP) is exposed when the stroke drops⬇️ all the way down.
Fatty tissue and bouncing with a 5mm stroke?!?!?!?I e only done 3 chest pieces....I recently took in a "bigger" client and he sits absolutely great!but I notice even with the stretch,pressure,and long stroke I'm still getting bounce on lining?any kind of tips or tricks from anyone would be great.i wanna hear from everyone who knows
Hey man I’m thinking of buying a serious tattoo machine as a apprentice and I have this problem with the stroke I’m looking for doing black and grey and shading should I go with 3.5 or 4.0
On the begining i stareted sith 2.5 and 3.5 and now im staring using 4 for everything but still is good shaiding with 3.5 and for lines using 4 is what i found good for me.
You just validated everything I “figured I knew about cam ratios. Thank you so much
Thank you for sharing! 10 years in and every day is still a school day! With hugs from Canada!
You saved me! I had exactly this problem at the beginning. I used a shorter stroke and my colours wouldn‘t pack into the skin. Now I use a 4.2 stroke and it‘s perfect for my blackwork/realism stuff. Thank you for your advice!
I went from 3.5 to 4.2 and it's a game changer
You changed the game bud. Try the 2.5
Even better. Try coils.
GMe changer how ? Can u do thing lines n light shading with it as well ? Let me know please
RIP. Thank you for all the help over Instagram. Sleep easy man.
Solid information personally.
I have personally taken Joshua's 1on1 Zoom seminar. It changed everything for me. If you can afford it, do it. If you can't afford it, spend less money elsewhere and take the seminar. Its not just a lecture. It is a personally crafted 1on1 with Joshua talking about the challenges YOU have. Don't wait, DO IT!!!
I remember seeing you in indiana and you done a bat on a woman's foot and it was amazing. Looked so real and very high quality
What most don’t realize is how the difference in how a needle strikes the skin with different stroke lengths can really be compensated for by just adjusting your hand speed and stretch… once you figure out how to utilize those variables the way a machine actually runs becomes secondary… the best part about rotary pen style machines aside from those comfort would be the amount of feedback you get to your hand… I found that the be one of the biggest benefits in my experience…
Absolutely. A good smooth running machine can give you the results you want if you take the time to understand the finesse of the machine.
@@carltontattoo 100% it’s unfortunate this is the stuff that is lacking when mentors take on apprentices these days…I try and explain this to coworkers as often as the opportunity arises…
Ps, your work is still as stunning as I ever remember seeing it! Keep spreading the good word man!🙏🏼
I really like the way you explained this, very simple and straight to the point. Thank youu! I will subscribe!
I have a shading 3.2 and for lines I have 4.0,thank you for the video.
Well said brother, I hear so many people misrepresenting stroke and throw, but I think you’re spot on, and agree with everything you said 🤘
I also found a longer stroke is more versatile and can be used to get both solid and soft by pressure applied
Right!? That’s mostly what I do as well. Once you learn how to use pressure and skin stretching techniques it’s amazing what you can achieve.:) thanks for watching.
Great advise..I'm using coils..time to play around with the contact screw and a mm ruler❤
Thank you dude. Easily translatable to coils too.
Top man with loads of knowledge🙌
If the viewers watching ur video without skipping then u success man u made it valuable information thank you
Thanks for explaining this. I was pretty confused by what stroke lengh does.
I am 4 month in tattooing and my first rotary(Ego switch) starts falling apart.
So I am slowly looking for what to replace it with.
Hi from Czech republic ✌️
Thanks 👍 I'm ready to understand these things six months in. My 4mm stroke rotary comes tomorrow and can't wait to lay into some fake skin.
totally agree but will add from my expiriene adding a little bit give we usually think the machine will become softer hitting but in fact it will become softer at first impact on the skin at the beginning but this will make the needle spend more time in the skin and even let us be able to push with our hand more comfortably without being affraid to go to deep and i feel more give or softer bar is better for lining and color packing than a machine with no give or using a hard bar on the inkjecta
Thankyou so much for this !!
Such a loss of a superb tattoo legend RIP
Thank you ☺️
Thanks a lot for information dude 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thank you for the info. I’m kind a new were in the past like two or three years to struggling. So I found it very helpful. I’m also finding that I definitely prefer little bit longer struggling around for 4.2. But thank you
You got me watching the whole video. Thumbs up 👍
thank you for this.
Very informative
i love me a long stroke! been starting to dabble with these battery-powered machines and so far they all have the stupid 3.5 throw. gonna have to take the plunge and get something with a 4 or 5 to get my feel back to what I did with my coils i think.
Great info.
Thanks Mr.C.
Thank you this was confusing me from coil machine dime like 2mm throw then rotary is 4mm and I don’t get if it really moves that much that means the tattoo cart is going alll the way in and out the tip of the tube and maybe bad idk
I maybe wrong but the way I understand stroke length is that the 4mm stroke seems harder because it takes a longer turning distance on cam…… it’s builds up more kinetic energy therefore hits the skin harder.
I just ordered the new cam for my bishop V6, when I ordered the machine I got the 3.5mm stroke because it was the default and I had no clue on my preferences. Today my new cam should be here giving me a 4.2mm stroke, I'm going to test it on myself first before a paying client. What I would like to know is how it effects your lining?
What do you think the best stroke is for soft realism.
Nice. Extra psyched on my Valhalla now & been considering a Nano. What do you prefer these days?
Hey thanks for the tip man ;)
"throw" was used to refer to coil machines. how far the armature bar would throw the needle down to the coil top. still the same as stroke for rotaries. just older terminology.
Thank you
What’s up dude! Commented back and forth with you on TSA. Interested in a 1 on 1 seminar for black and grey realism since that is 90% of what I focus on.
Really nice work, can you tell me what equipment your using to record such clear quality videos. iPhone, or DSLR camera?/ ring light/ tripod / lighting? Editing app/ programsThank you
Also how can I get hold of seminars you have out
Hey man, Thanks for the informative video. How does stroke length translate for lines? Does it mean 2.5mm would be good for a small 1-5 liner? And 4 for maybe bigger groups?
yes def. not 2.5mm but around 3.5 is good choice for smaller lines.
Hope all is well bro.
I use 4.0 stoke for smooth black and gray and solid lines. Have to do less passes
I probably have like 8 tattoo machines & some say something about strokes I'm just like hu😮 😅 so that's why I'm here. Recently bought another fancy one & cost wayyy more & says something about strokes😮 I'm learning. Trying to understand
hey buddy ! cool video. hope youre doing well, Sir
essential info
Can I use a 4.2 as a good all arounder ? I do script n light shading but also bold dark lines and str8 black so would this stroke work for me ?
Hi! Hope u can help me.. I just got this rotary with different tension bars.. now is that the same as changing the stroke?Manual just said changes the hit of the machine..is it referring to stroke?
Does amiture bar length make a difference on liner coil machines
I need to find a Machine for lining and shading wireless
I’m a beginner so I’ll explain both too..
STROKE is how far (UP & DOWN ) the machine is moving the needle, that distance⬆️⬇️ is measured in millimeters.
THROW is how much of the needl’s (TIP) is exposed when the stroke drops⬇️ all the way down.
What about rotary with adjustable needle cao
Rip Master.
How do i get a one on one?
i got the flite nano, i dont like how i got to take my whole gun apart just to change the cam, im tryna get dat valhalla
Fatty tissue and bouncing with a 5mm stroke?!?!?!?I e only done 3 chest pieces....I recently took in a "bigger" client and he sits absolutely great!but I notice even with the stretch,pressure,and long stroke I'm still getting bounce on lining?any kind of tips or tricks from anyone would be great.i wanna hear from everyone who knows
Im having a hard time blending
My problems are solved
The higher the stroke, the more experience is required.
Hey man I’m thinking of buying a serious tattoo machine as a apprentice and I have this problem with the stroke I’m looking for doing black and grey and shading should I go with 3.5 or 4.0
2.5mm
On the begining i stareted sith 2.5 and 3.5 and now im staring using 4 for everything but still is good shaiding with 3.5 and for lines using 4 is what i found good for me.
Actually yeah I do want to see the puppers to hahahaha
What is needle depth for color packing
I keep getting lines and dark spots
Speed up your machine
All you need to know is in google
I see alot artist using 4.0 plus stroke and they dont know why their work looks like trash. Basically they can control it
That five will fuck ya off lol
Just get coils.
Yeah you gotta do your home work