The slow speed is entirely down to the fact that these have old style mechanical drives. It's amazing the one in the old one still works if it was used heavily. It's a 5400RPM drive and the newer iMac most likely has a 7200RPM drive. I put a SSD drive in my 2011 and it TRANSFORMED it! It's like a better than new machine. It's child's play to do, the screen pops right off, a few screws and the LCD comes out and then the drive is right there. It takes minutes to swap in the new drive. If you wish to upgrade the CPU to an i7 that requires pulling the logic board but that's not that big a deal. You can ever swap out the graphics card to a more powerful one although that has a lot of issues and complexity. As for the new iMac, pulling that LCD is no fun and if you crack it a new screen will set you back many hundreds of dollars. For the money, a nicely preserved 2011 iMac is a bargain compared to the new one. The ONLY improvement I see in the new one is the picture.
I own a late 2009 27" iMac, and after much deliberation I decided to retire it today. I never really thought I'd get 10.5 years of use out of a computer, however, there are a few areas where it has gotten a bit sluggish and lack of updates for my needed software is what has caused me to move on. However, I will still be squeezing some more life out of it by using it as a second monitor!
Xpress Beats not if they don’t engage the audience! Less than 50 comments & they have responded to none! Not exactly a way to grow. Nevertheless the video was interesting & I love my late 2009 IMAC 🖥 . Still works like a champ
I took in a late 2009 iMac that had been left at the curb by my neighbor for trash. He had acquired it during a house clean out job and had never been able to get past the prior (deceased) owners' password. The 2009 is easy to get into since the front glass is held on by magnets so I removed the hard drive and erased it with my Windows PC and then installed High Sierra with an install disc I bought. Cloned the hard drive to a SSD and cut the boot time from 60-70 seconds to 20 seconds! Still very usable.
My 2008 imac with an ssd and patched version of mojave, boots up in about 40 seconds, and yes, that is with the password entered and the desktop shown ready for use, while your new 2017 imac's startup bar just filled up completely, my imac beats both of yours in startup time, which is insane! How sneaky of apple to ship mechanical spinning hard drives in 2017!
Still using a 2008 Imac - had HD replaced once, a couple of repairs - either upgrading to 6GB ram soon, or upgrading to much newer IMac - though not new - Headgap may provide me with an updated IMac, larger HD, dual partion unit -
I have a Late 2009 21.5" that is my main machine (I run a graphic design company). I burnt-out 2 hards drives, upgraded the Ram, and replaced the screen. It can't be killed (1TB SSD 16GB Ram OSX High Sierra). Purchased in 2009 as a refurb from Apple ...
I have a 2011 Imac works perfect zero issues however, I can at least upgrade my hard drive,ram ETC. It'll be just as good as any new Imac without spending the money for a new one and I can figure out a way to update High Sierra to Mojave or Big Sur if I really want to.
Chill vibes, great video! I just bought the late 2009 iMac Core 2 Duo, 8GB Ram etc. for my mum who mainly just general web surfing, watches videos, netflix, youtube etc. and she loves it so far.
I prefer the thick models. I've got one from 2011 and I'm perfectly fine with it, it's running MacOS High Sierra. It is the highest possible Configuration from 2011 and I got it about a year ago for just 350€.
Older iMacs (compared to current models) had quality and durable components - i still have 2008 iMacs in daily use. In contrast i had many macs bought after 2012-2013 with hardware flaws...
HDD vs HDD. Apple hard drives haven't changed a lot... on base models. SSD's will boot these in less than 20 seconds. Also, for your HP, I recommend getting a linux distro on it.
The front glass easily comes off for cleaning using suction cups at the upper corners. You can also use a plastic pry tool to lift it away along the top edge.
this was really helpful! my [late 2009, 27”] iMac has been a workhorse all these years, but the drive just died. my gut (and my wallet) tells me to get the new drive and keep it running. your video confirmed this - making me VERY happy. THANK YOU!
I'm going to get a new SSD and keep my Late 2009 21.5 running, too. Seems lots of folks are doing that vs. buying a new machine. BTW, my wallet is also crying "Get a new drive and keep it running."
A good SSD will work wonders on this model and if you're brave, you can change out the cpu for an i7 880 3.06ghz cpu. That would give your 2009 imac a real boost!
tbh this channel should have way more subs, I subbed btw also I am starting a tech channel and I am going to make a vid like this (reviewing the iMac 2009).
Thought Id just chime in and also love the video and thanks for uploading,great content!2009 imacs are tough to beat. I have a late 27 core 2 duo with ssd, 16 gb ram and it holds its own against a 2015 imac with i7 quad 32 gb ram and 1 tb fusion drive. The screen on the 2009 is still gorgeous to look at, the 4k on the 2015 is simply clear to look at and is also gorgeous but then I keep my 2009 screen crystal clean. Best of luck keep it up!
I couldn't give the new version a B+ , not being able to more easily upgrade machine yourself is a major detriment - many of us keep our machines as long as possible -
just bought an imac off of WOOT. its a 21.5 imac intel i5 2.7 ghz quad core 8 gb ddr3, 1 tb sata hdd (mac os x high sierra) how will this be doing with simple youtube video editing? right now im running a optiplex 790 intel core i5 with hitfilms program for editing and it does lag a bit any info would be great and great video!!!
my neightbor wrks at an office and they where throwingo ut an old imac from the office *an imac 2010 model* with a core i3 porcessor 8 gb of ram and mac HD hard drive *the hard drive is long gone now* and since it was from an office on the back it said "Electrical safety test due august 2020" DAMM BOI THEY BE LOOKIN' FOR THAT IMAC
Apple keyboards rule! The level keys reduce carpal tunnel, ( Dell et al take notice) the report is perfect and the added right delete is awesome. If I have one criticism, it would be the Num Lock toggle hidden under the clear button
I’m doing a software update on my ‘09 21.5” Imac. We bought this thing brand new in 09 and it has never been good. Super super slow since the day it was purchased. Was never impressed with it. I pulled it out of storage so my daughter can mess around with iMovie. Im going to guess that it isn’t compatible with this relic. Which is too bad because its still a nice looking computer. 🖥
2020computers normally work with ssd - so what are you guys comparing + I have a mac mini 2011 with a Fusiondrive an imac late 2009 and a imac 2019 and your results are absoluteley not in line with my experience - intensive processor use like LogicPro or videoediting should b e considered - whatis your message? If a 10 year old machine would be closely as good as a 2020 machine nobody would buy new computers.
well, i have 10 years old windows laptop dell e6500. Windows 7, runs all tasks prety well. Adobe photoshop 25mb raw files no problem, try adobe premier 2019 and here you can see it's age (all about core 2 duo, hhd drive, 4 gb ram and nvs 160m). As for mac OS in modern days. I found old mac mini running snow leopard, damn, that was The OS from Apple!!!
Sadly the new iMac does not have an SSD storage. That's why the speed on the new iMac is a little disappointed. I hope that Apple will stop selling normal harddrives soon
Where's the follow-up promised? Only three videos produced in total, so it seems you gave up before you really got going. That's a pity, because this shows much potential. Found it because I've a 2011 21" iMac which I'm going to upgrade from 4GB to 12GB tomorrow. Next week I hope to replace the old HD with a new SSD to significantly speed it up. Also got a new 27" i9 eight core with 2TB SSD ordered up. Will probably sell the upgraded 21" in a couple of months while hoping that the £200 I will spend on the upgrade will pay back and help it sell quickly. It is immaculate apart from the usual slight white shading you mention in the video. I kind of hope that this is just dust that has found its way between the glass and the actual screen, but it is only noticeable when the screen is off and, in any case, is more a 'characteristic' of these models than a fault.
Apples charging 1299 and still putting slow hard disk drives in these machines. New macs are by no means a good value lol. That boot time is just ridiculous for a 1200+ 2019 model.
you must upgrade your iMac 27" with a SSD disc, 32 MB of RAM and a Metal graphic GPU (ua-cam.com/video/0b_YzIjOvOE/v-deo.html) & (forums.macrumors.com/threads/2011-imac-graphics-card-upgrade.1596614/)
You can still get RAM for the 2009 iMac. Get it on Amazon or eBay. Fusion drives slowly slow down as they age. If you do not want to pay a premium for the temp sensor cable when upgradeing your slow 2009 hd just boot off a USB SSD. The idea of having to cut the screen off the 2019 iMac to upgrade is less a trauma than opening the 2009 iMac with all the cable you have to disconnect.
My 12-years old phenom II can(!) do all daily tasks on windows 10 with ease, why wouldnt it? This has nothing to do with apple being awesome, more like the growth in cpu power stagnating for years and years.
Tech gets cheaper as dollar inflates. IPhone gets more expensive as users get dumber. Steve Jobs never increase product price but upgrades the specs year after year
apple have got you (need to buy the latest model) silly humans by the ghoulies and its costing you lot thousands buy a older machine and upgrade and maybe save hundreds ,,humans realy make me laugh ,,
Oh dear....Anyone who still says that old Cliche 'it's OK for daily tasks', knows nothing.....If it was 2009 you'd be drooling over it and using it for Creative work, now all of a sudden it's only good for daily tasks! Nonsense....Plenty of 2009 iMacs being used for more than your daily dose of FB cat pics and sad YT Videos about how slow 2009 imacs are! What people's problem is they use SW that wasn't designed to be used with these Mac's, stick to the SW from the era and the iMac doesn't know it's 2022....Running LPX here with a Digidesign 003 Rack and no issues whatsoever (2009 i7 27" 32GB RAM 120GBSSD/1TB HDD) If the iMac you are using does what you need it to do then no need for silly expensive restrictive upgrades for HW you don't need.
The slow speed is entirely down to the fact that these have old style mechanical drives. It's amazing the one in the old one still works if it was used heavily. It's a 5400RPM drive and the newer iMac most likely has a 7200RPM drive. I put a SSD drive in my 2011 and it TRANSFORMED it! It's like a better than new machine. It's child's play to do, the screen pops right off, a few screws and the LCD comes out and then the drive is right there. It takes minutes to swap in the new drive. If you wish to upgrade the CPU to an i7 that requires pulling the logic board but that's not that big a deal. You can ever swap out the graphics card to a more powerful one although that has a lot of issues and complexity. As for the new iMac, pulling that LCD is no fun and if you crack it a new screen will set you back many hundreds of dollars. For the money, a nicely preserved 2011 iMac is a bargain compared to the new one. The ONLY improvement I see in the new one is the picture.
@Michael Douglas as does my low end early 09.
@Michael Douglas dude cool!
I own a late 2009 27" iMac, and after much deliberation I decided to retire it today. I never really thought I'd get 10.5 years of use out of a computer, however, there are a few areas where it has gotten a bit sluggish and lack of updates for my needed software is what has caused me to move on. However, I will still be squeezing some more life out of it by using it as a second monitor!
Why is the video production/quality so high but you guys have no subscribers.. wth I thought u guys were a 10k + channel.
Shemz Ldn amazing. I do my shitty vids on my phone and edit in Kdenlive. And I have more subs last time I looked.
CR Shemz if you build it they will come
IKR
How do I get 1000 subs?
@@orangegherkin3420 step one, cover yourself in oil
by this video seemed yall should be like 2million subs i swear😂
Zach Parrish they will get there!
Xpress Beats not if they don’t engage the audience! Less than 50 comments & they have responded to none! Not exactly a way to grow. Nevertheless the video was interesting & I love my late 2009 IMAC 🖥 . Still works like a champ
True
Troo
I took in a late 2009 iMac that had been left at the curb by my neighbor for trash. He had acquired it during a house clean out job and had never been able to get past the prior (deceased) owners' password. The 2009 is easy to get into since the front glass is held on by magnets so I removed the hard drive and erased it with my Windows PC and then installed High Sierra with an install disc I bought. Cloned the hard drive to a SSD and cut the boot time from 60-70 seconds to 20 seconds! Still very usable.
you saved a beautiful mac before it would become E-waste, great job and enjoy the device.
iMac 27" 2011 - best iMac "2009-2019"
My 2008 imac with an ssd and patched version of mojave, boots up in about 40 seconds, and yes, that is with the password entered and the desktop shown ready for use, while your new 2017 imac's startup bar just filled up completely, my imac beats both of yours in startup time, which is insane! How sneaky of apple to ship mechanical spinning hard drives in 2017!
These tests are bad. New out the box comp vs one with files. Both should be clean os install, with same SSD and RAM for proper test
Still using a 2008 Imac - had HD replaced once, a couple of repairs - either upgrading to 6GB ram soon, or upgrading to much newer IMac - though not new - Headgap may provide me with an updated IMac, larger HD, dual partion unit -
I have a Late 2009 21.5" that is my main machine (I run a graphic design company). I burnt-out 2 hards drives, upgraded the Ram, and replaced the screen. It can't be killed (1TB SSD 16GB Ram OSX High Sierra). Purchased in 2009 as a refurb from Apple ...
also - El Capitan with an SSD HD is the best combo for this year/model - lightning fast ....
I have a 2011 Imac works perfect zero issues however, I can at least upgrade my hard drive,ram ETC. It'll be just as good as any new Imac without spending the money for a new one and I can figure out a way to update High Sierra to Mojave or Big Sur if I really want to.
Exactly!!!
When you upgraded to a 2009 version from a 2007... 🙏
Chill vibes, great video!
I just bought the late 2009 iMac Core 2 Duo, 8GB Ram etc. for my mum who mainly just general web surfing, watches videos, netflix, youtube etc. and she loves it so far.
I actually forgot about those hybrid drives back in the days.
“It’s kinda crazy you can fit a TB hard drive 16 Gb ram and a pretty decent graphics card”
Laptops: am I a joke to you
Yes
I prefer the thick models. I've got one from 2011 and I'm perfectly fine with it, it's running MacOS High Sierra.
It is the highest possible Configuration from 2011 and I got it about a year ago for just 350€.
Really? How? Does it also work with Catalina?
I have no idea why this channel didn't explode in popularity
They only made 3 videos?
@@ghost-user559 they would have made more if they exploded in popularity ofc
Hi boys, I still have my iMac 2009, just wanted to ask will the any apple trackpads work on it🤔
Older iMacs (compared to current models) had quality and durable components - i still have 2008 iMacs in daily use. In contrast i had many macs bought after 2012-2013 with hardware flaws...
HDD vs HDD. Apple hard drives haven't changed a lot... on base models. SSD's will boot these in less than 20 seconds. Also, for your HP, I recommend getting a linux distro on it.
The front glass easily comes off for cleaning using suction cups at the upper corners. You can also use a plastic pry tool to lift it away along the top edge.
or stick some gorilla tape on the screen top and pull
this was really helpful! my [late 2009, 27”] iMac has been a workhorse all these years, but the drive just died. my gut (and my wallet) tells me to get the new drive and keep it running. your video confirmed this - making me VERY happy. THANK YOU!
I'm going to get a new SSD and keep my Late 2009 21.5 running, too. Seems lots of folks are doing that vs. buying a new machine. BTW, my wallet is also crying "Get a new drive and keep it running."
A good SSD will work wonders on this model and if you're brave, you can change out the cpu for an i7 880 3.06ghz cpu. That would give your 2009 imac a real boost!
i m planning to do the opposite: i have the new one, but wanna buy the old one (2), to use in Target display Mode (function not avaible on the newer)
tbh this channel should have way more subs, I subbed btw also I am starting a tech channel and I am going to make a vid like this (reviewing the iMac 2009).
stop self promoting
WHYYY would you buy a mac with a HDD in 2019???
To not spend the $700 at Apple, and upgrade it for $100.
Suren Xavier If only the hard drives had been as easy to upgrade as the ram is
I got iMac 21.5 2019 model i upgraded from 8g to 16g big difference.. next upgrade it's gonna be from 500gb to 2T.
just upgraded my 2011 iMac! i5 2400s to a Xeon 1240(quad core - 8 threads 3.3ghz) 16gb of ram and 1tb SSD. wow!!
I have a 09 iMac ive been working on and I love this thing. W ram maxed and a SSD it does what I need it to do. :-)
I can imagine Apple thought the sound quality wouldn't matter on the newer model since people would most likely connect speakers to it anyway.
I have mid-2010 iMac, and the startup time is just like iMac Pro, weird
Why is that 2019 boot up so slow? They still configured with HDD's??
You can chose I think..
Dude for real 1299 dollars and my 2007 iMac boots faster than that
@@theartshow1476 Our G4 MDD DP with 9.2.2 does as well, silly video.
why are your subs still in three digits? This is quality!
2017 model with 5400 RPM SATA, could've bought the 2012 model instead!
My 27" 2010 Imac runs 1080p perfect
As does my early 09 24".
Thought Id just chime in and also love the video and thanks for uploading,great content!2009 imacs are tough to beat. I have a late 27 core 2 duo with ssd, 16 gb ram and it holds its own against a 2015 imac with i7 quad 32 gb ram and 1 tb fusion drive. The screen on the 2009 is still gorgeous to look at, the 4k on the 2015 is simply clear to look at and is also gorgeous but then I keep my 2009 screen crystal clean. Best of luck keep it up!
I have an iMac 27 i7 with 10 gigs and 512 video card and
late 2009. So how is that one going to stand up in 2019???
I couldn't give the new version a B+ , not being able to more easily upgrade machine yourself is a major detriment - many of us keep our machines as long as possible -
just bought an imac off of WOOT. its a 21.5 imac intel i5 2.7 ghz quad core 8 gb ddr3, 1 tb sata hdd (mac os x high sierra) how will this be doing with simple youtube video editing? right now im running a optiplex 790 intel core i5 with hitfilms program for editing and it does lag a bit any info would be great and great video!!!
ponle un disco duro ssd y la imac volara
my neightbor wrks at an office and they where throwingo ut an old imac from the office *an imac 2010 model*
with a core i3 porcessor 8 gb of ram and mac HD hard drive *the hard drive is long gone now*
and since it was from an office on the back it said
"Electrical safety test due august 2020" DAMM BOI THEY BE LOOKIN' FOR THAT IMAC
Apple keyboards rule! The level keys reduce carpal tunnel, ( Dell et al take notice) the report is perfect and the added right delete is awesome. If I have one criticism, it would be the Num Lock toggle hidden under the clear button
So nobody going to send the link to audio library song here ?
Yes truelah me also use old imac 2011 still running good at kuala lumpur
You guys deserve a lot more subs..❤❤
I’m doing a software update on my ‘09 21.5” Imac. We bought this thing brand new in 09 and it has never been good. Super super slow since the day it was purchased. Was never impressed with it. I pulled it out of storage so my daughter can mess around with iMovie. Im going to guess that it isn’t compatible with this relic. Which is too bad because its still a nice looking computer. 🖥
mylespl all if needs is an ssd. Get the HDD replaced with an ssd and you won’t believe how fast it runs. DONT go to Apple. Go to a local computer tech
First vid ive seen from you guys. Nice! Subbed!
Same
My 2012 Thunderbolt Display has insane sound quality so an apple product was really good speakers.
Holy fuck this edit is lit
WTF 400 subs this dude should have way more then that
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hello
its me
2020computers normally work with ssd - so what are you guys comparing + I have a mac mini 2011 with a Fusiondrive an imac late 2009 and a imac 2019 and your results are absoluteley not in line with my experience - intensive processor use like LogicPro or videoediting should b e considered - whatis your message? If a 10 year old machine would be closely as good as a 2020 machine nobody would buy new computers.
tennessee? Knoxville?
What happened to them
27 inch ones you can still upgrade the ram
well, i have 10 years old windows laptop dell e6500. Windows 7, runs all tasks prety well. Adobe photoshop 25mb raw files no problem, try adobe premier 2019 and here you can see it's age (all about core 2 duo, hhd drive, 4 gb ram and nvs 160m).
As for mac OS in modern days. I found old mac mini running snow leopard, damn, that was The OS from Apple!!!
Sadly the new iMac does not have an SSD storage. That's why the speed on the new iMac is a little disappointed. I hope that Apple will stop selling normal harddrives soon
Good video! I subbed
both sounded great tho
You guys deserve more subscribers.
well obviously the old one takes longer to boot because it only has a spinning hard drive...
This should be in trashcan afternoon or event
You called the 2019 iMacs the 2017 one in the video also new Macs don’t have the chimes anymore because they used to annoy people in meetings
Where's the follow-up promised? Only three videos produced in total, so it seems you gave up before you really got going. That's a pity, because this shows much potential.
Found it because I've a 2011 21" iMac which I'm going to upgrade from 4GB to 12GB tomorrow. Next week I hope to replace the old HD with a new SSD to significantly speed it up.
Also got a new 27" i9 eight core with 2TB SSD ordered up. Will probably sell the upgraded 21" in a couple of months while hoping that the £200 I will spend on the upgrade will pay back and help it sell quickly. It is immaculate apart from the usual slight white shading you mention in the video. I kind of hope that this is just dust that has found its way between the glass and the actual screen, but it is only noticeable when the screen is off and, in any case, is more a 'characteristic' of these models than a fault.
Subscribed already :D !
U need to sort it internet
Great video. But the chemistry of nerd 2 is off. Nerd is not a derogatory term. I am one.
Bro this is higher than Linus tech tips quality but they have 100000x less subs
Apples charging 1299 and still putting slow hard disk drives in these machines. New macs are by no means a good value lol. That boot time is just ridiculous for a 1200+ 2019 model.
After watching this I'm in no hurry to replace my 27" iMac from 2011 running High Sierra that no longer makes that stupid chime at start up!
you must upgrade your iMac 27" with a SSD disc, 32 MB of RAM and a Metal graphic GPU (ua-cam.com/video/0b_YzIjOvOE/v-deo.html) & (forums.macrumors.com/threads/2011-imac-graphics-card-upgrade.1596614/)
Bro that chime the best
You can still get RAM for the 2009 iMac. Get it on Amazon or eBay. Fusion drives slowly slow down as they age. If you do not want to pay a premium for the temp sensor cable when upgradeing your slow 2009 hd just boot off a USB SSD. The idea of having to cut the screen off the 2019 iMac to upgrade is less a trauma than opening the 2009 iMac with all the cable you have to disconnect.
I just found me a 24” iMac 2008 for $29.99, was able to upgrade to El Capitan, planned on selling it but now I kinda want to keep it.
My 12-years old phenom II can(!) do all daily tasks on windows 10 with ease, why wouldnt it? This has nothing to do with apple being awesome, more like the growth in cpu power stagnating for years and years.
Tech gets cheaper as dollar inflates. IPhone gets more expensive as users get dumber. Steve Jobs never increase product price but upgrades the specs year after year
Thicker pannel = Better acoustics
As far as the performance goes, they both sucks since they dont have an SDD, that's the bottleneck.
Wouldn’t say the same for a windows machine?! EXSUCE ME?!
YOU NEED AN SSD
I thought you would have atleast 100k plus subs but I'll help by doing my part and subscribing.
Watched on a 2006 iMac P.S. I hate Apple but I got it for very cheap so I bought it
Give them a MacBook they buy a smaller iMac so they can take it whit them
apple have got you (need to buy the latest model) silly humans by the ghoulies and its costing you lot thousands buy a older machine and upgrade and maybe save hundreds ,,humans realy make me laugh ,,
Oh dear....Anyone who still says that old Cliche 'it's OK for daily tasks', knows nothing.....If it was 2009 you'd be drooling over it and using it for Creative work, now all of a sudden it's only good for daily tasks! Nonsense....Plenty of 2009 iMacs being used for more than your daily dose of FB cat pics and sad YT Videos about how slow 2009 imacs are! What people's problem is they use SW that wasn't designed to be used with these Mac's, stick to the SW from the era and the iMac doesn't know it's 2022....Running LPX here with a Digidesign 003 Rack and no issues whatsoever (2009 i7 27" 32GB RAM 120GBSSD/1TB HDD) If the iMac you are using does what you need it to do then no need for silly expensive restrictive upgrades for HW you don't need.
Subs bro.. ahahahahahahahahaha!
103 subscriber :)
Sub spanish plss
Hp,s are the worst laptop brand
this was bad
how is it that u have 133 subs?