Joe Biden debating tax policy 2008-2024

[@YangBalanceYin]

He's not stupid. He's old. He's very old, and he is doing a job where you don't get to sleep and one slip-up can result in a country getting bombed. He should be on a beach chilling somewhere, and there absolutely must be an age limit for politicians. If you can be considered too young, you can be too old.

[@MarvelousLXVII]

When they wrote the rules for President--the average life span in America was 35. Crazy to think about it.

[@fuzzywhyyy9639]

@@MarvelousLXVII some died at birth and some lived to their 60’s...

[@MarvelousLXVII]

@@fuzzywhyyy9639 Hence the average age of 35.

[@Pc118Gamer]

The first few presidents left office between 61 and 69 years of age, it is said that aging has slowed around 10 years due to modern medicine. The age limit therefore should be set up so that presidents will leave office before they turn 80. The age limit should therefore be that a candidate must be under 76 on inauguration Day. This would, unfortunately make the Hoover rule impossible to continue by 2040,

[@VainakhQuranites]

@@MarvelousLXVII That's only the life expectancy of the masses, due to living conditions and diet. The wealthy, often the people that ran for president, usually lived to an old age.

[@jornjorn4571]

Biden himself deteriorating aside, it's crazy how they actually discussed specific tax policies back then instead of just going "my economy good, yours bad" "no! my economy best, yours worst!"

[@NiallOwenMcCusker]

This should be the top comment. Fr

[@dizont]

my economy boom, your economy boo

[@punchgod]

To be fair, actual policy is rarely discussed since Trump shifted the discourse from actual politics to culture war bullshit

[@PaulPaul-ym6hu]

Man say

[@jsquared1013]

All he did was lie with more specificity.

[@victorvandenbrink6851]

Seeing him go from razor sharp in 2008 to a stumbling, blabbering mess in in 2024 makes me just terrified of growing old.

[@barsabe]

Focus on neurogenesis to keep your brain young

[@FutureAbe]

@@barsabeneurogenesis is BS. You can’t grow new braincells. It’s mumbojumbo

[@qekruxt5089]

I remember a guy who recently won the physics nobel prize at 95. He sounded sharp at 95

[@daggerclick-ps4cc]

avoid those sugary foods like ice cream i think

[@victorhumphrey131]

We all age differently and Biden happened to have a massive cognitive decline between 2020 and 2024.

[@nomnomnom5732]

Man, aging is depressing af.

[@water9892]

The rolling stones said it best; "what a drag it is getting old"

[@angelofdeath275]

when youre under public scrutiny and every little thing you do is a headline, it becomes depressing.

[@credman]

*Dementia

[@liu3chan]

​@@credman *America

[@MigWith]

yeah. aging in general is depressing, your body falling apart after you've reached your biological "objective". growing up and getting older are two completely different things, one is getting to your intended structure, the other is that intended structure falling apart because of time.

[@snakyjake9]

It's honestly not even funny anymore. Joe needs to retire and spend his few remaining years with family and friends.

[@inquerion8867]

Well, his family...google Hunter Biden...

[@dafeekielelliott2442]

That’s the worst part, his family (wife and son) are seemingly two of the loudest people keeping him in the race… obviously he trusts them and they really should be doing what’s best for him

[@leomagnusson5254]

@@dafeekielelliott2442 Because Joe´s political career makes them money and any one else in his family has no chance to get elected because of Beu´s death they have no other in the Biden family that has a chance to get elected

[@electroAM]

@@dafeekielelliott2442 they dont care about him they just want power

[@JtMoney88]

Nope. Democrats made their bed, now they have to lay in it. We tried to tell everyone in 2020, and we were called crazy conspiracy theorists. Trump will demolish Biden in November, and I can't wait to see it.

[@joltbv]

he looked so confident and alive back then. the decline is legitimately sad

[@civotamuaz5781]

It isn't. He is a creep, liar and if i continue this comment will get banned

[@joltbv]

@@civotamuaz5781 seeing almost anybody decline this far is sad. his creepiness is probably part of his decline. he probably wouldnt have done that stuff 20 years ago (idk for sure though im not an expert on joe)

[@idontexist1155]

If I start what Trump did, I can never stop commenting. Slow your horses.​@@civotamuaz5781

[@Grooove_e]

Not sad. Go watch videos of him from the 1980's, the 1990's and the 2000's. He has always been a racist, a liar, and a plagiarist. He is a pure bred politician who doesn't care about anyone but himself, money, and power. That's why he refuses to drop out even in his final few years he simply will not relinquish power.

[@AveTrueToCaesar8212]

@@joltbv
I’m sure his decline attributed to the acts his daughter mentioned in her diary too?

[@tim.a.k.mertens]

Remember how much older Obama looked after his first term as president. Now apply that to a senior citizen.

[@YaIdcReportMe]

Obama looked older from his guilt of selling the country out to health insurers and putting children in cages 😅

[@Justshortsandothers]

Joe biden looked the same after his first term as president.

[@draculadd]

@@Justshortsandothersnot necessarily

[@Justshortsandothers]

@@draculadd, you're right. Biden looks more wrinkly now.

[@draculadd]

@@Justshortsandothers that and his stuttering and tripping over words has gotten worse. He’s just old old. Time for him to relax on a beach somewhere. I’m tired of these old men trying to hold office. We need a cat.

[@DetChesmond]

In that first speech I had just finished middle school. Now I’m bald. Time is weird.

[@CairoAshby]

Pretty much same here lol

[@Bass_fishing_boygames]

Underrated commet

[@bellacap]

and i was 3 yrs old and now i can legally vote 💀

[@AC-nq6os]

Me too.

[@hasoonnine]

If you wanna feel even worse, Joe biden tried to run for presidency in the 80s!!!

[@stevensmith1031]

The change between 2020 and 2024 is bad enough, but comparing 2024 to 2008 is fucking rough.

[@ZachRULES96]

People were already in 2020 saying he was declining

[@ayushbajaj4708]

@@ZachRULES96 Yeah I remember people were saying Biden had dementia and that he's too old to run all the way back in 2020, and now 2020 Biden seems so sharp in comparison to the Biden we have

[@Kanglar]

Remember when everyone was saying Bernie was too old to run in 2016? LOL

[@CC45-As]

@@Kanglar “They’re not going to recover from this one! 😈” ahh

[@stevensmith1031]

@@ayushbajaj4708 and even the 2019 dem debates are like a different guy

[@biffalobull2335]

He ran FOR PRESIDENT IN 1988

[@hangten1904]

He didn't debate in the 80s because he dropped out due to plagiarism.

[@VladimirTheAesthete]

I wasn't even born back then.

[@amelgicic7588]

​@@VladimirTheAestheteAnd Biden was born before WW2 concluded.

[@electrodynamicorb6548]

@@hangten1904like the former First Lady

[@rutabega306]

Damn we weren't even alive then

[@wizzzer1337]

In 2012 his age was an atvantage, he made Paul Ryan look like a schoolboy.

[@StocksIn60Seconds]

And Paul Ryan was certainly no slouch…nothing like Kamala. Geez.

[@CelestialWolf246]

It's depressing to see how he had the ability to not give a chance for an opposite speaker to interrupt his own speech back in the day where as he is just stumbling in 2024

[@miltongurl28]

The decline in the last four years says it all. He’s a shell of who he was in 2008 and 2012, and even 2020. It’s like the light in his eyes has gone out. It’s sad, like watching a parent age.
Retire, Joe. Live a quiet life with Jill and your grandkids.

[@rizaradri316]

Our wish has been granted

[@AaBbCcDdEeF]

He was doing so much better before he beat Medicare.

[@amosdarnall6865]

“He beat it to death”

[@BigWinniePooh]

@@amosdarnall6865and hes destroying medicare

[@vondas1480]

“despite the constant negative press covfefe”

[@simonreily7143]

Literally cracked me up with that comment. The old Joe Biden was brilliant.. 2020 Biden wasn't great but 2024 Biden is just sad to watch

[@megazombiekiller9000]

@@simonreily7143Brilliant isn’t quite what you’d use to describe the old Joe Biden. Even back then nobody thought he was smart, our standards have just fallen so far that he looks brilliant compared to what we’ve been given. Back in 09, Robin Williams was making fun of Rambling Joe. He had a massively failed presidential run in 87 because he just word for word plagiarized speeches and lied about his grades in law school among other things like lying about being a civil rights activist/marcher (which he still does to this day)

[@spugesdu]

Absolutely heartbreaking. Getting old and losing your touch is normal, it happens to everyone, but doing it like this in the most public way imaginable at the highest level of office…just awful.

[@ComedyBros5]

He’s the dumbass who decided to run for office.

[@elFulberto]

Hey, you voted him in. That's on you.

[@theunfunnyjokester]

@@elFulbertowhat makes you think that

[@elFulberto]

@@theunfunnyjokester wasn't he elected, first as a Democratic candidate and then as the President?

[@xandradice]

​@@elFulberto Be more respectful. Besides, we all know he was hand picked by the DNC. You can't blame some random commenter on YT.

[@jeremymr]

Proof that Obi-Wan Kenobi aging that much between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope is realistic

[@To.me.my.X-Men.97]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brentpearson4877]

How much time frame difference was that

[@eliboles6459]

​@@brentpearson4877 19 years

[@larsderfresheeisbar9137]

19 years but also on a planet with two suns, probably plays a part too

[@ErenTheWarcriminal]

@@larsderfresheeisbar9137 also losing many loved ones...

[@christianhaugaard5853]

He was sharp and alert in 08 and 12. In 2020 he still had most of it but in 2024 he was long shot

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

The presidency really ages you. Like Obama literally grayed by 2012 💀

[@John-v5m]

@PremierCCGuyMMXVI Fr Obama needs to dye his hair to make it black again

[@jannivannibell]

He literally doesn’t look or sound like the same person at all. He can no longer speak in complete sentences

[@jacoblentz2092]

Its a symptom of Parkinsons from my understanding

[@jayguero2123]

It’s the stutter. He’s always had it since before he joined politics and trained himself to suppress it. When you’re tired, ofc it’s harder to manage it. Being president has never been easy for anyone.

[@Hyperdrive]

@@jayguero2123massive copium

[@jayguero2123]

@@Hyperdrive X to doubt.

[@Vinske30]

@@jayguero2123Referencing his stutter is copium. If it's solely down to his stutter, why was he in so much better shape in 2008 and 2012? I'm sure he was also under considerable strain back then, in the middle of the election campaigns, as Senator/VP. The obvious answer is: He has lost a step. He‘s been going downhill.

[@heyrakorzlar]

We were making fun of him in 2020, but in hindsight he seemed to be doing alright back then still.
Meanwhile 2024 Joe isn't him anymore.

[@Mauruud]

Hes been a mess from the start…

[@CM-ls6fh]

This, the comparison between 2024 and 2020 seems like he aged 100 years in 4, this is ridiculous. In 2020 I can see why people would have voted for him - he could actually formulate sentences and not trip up every second word. Christ allmighty...

[@Mauruud]

@@CM-ls6fh was still very bad. I cant understand how People did not see This coming. People need to read several sources and not just one perspective

[@rollerknobster]

He forgot that he’s him

[@BellicIV]

Imagine 2028 Joe

[@Enk64]

The sad thing is... in his mind he's still the guy from 2008.

[@To.me.my.X-Men.97]

Ikr😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@itslittleboi]

​@@To.me.my.X-Men.97 That's not funny.

[@davidruckle7064]

He was an absolute dude. I feel bad for him. Time does not wait.

[@mclarenfan6032]

an absolute genocidal dude, yes.

[@williedwardsmire1253]

@@mclarenfan6032cognitively speaking he was

[@Funknwanker]

He literally looked like a different person in 2008. He doesn’t even look like an older version he just looks different.

[@matthewball9851]

he's had a lot of plastic surgery / hair implants. His earlobes are a good sign of face lifts

[@justinw-bs7053]

@@matthewball9851 His eyes are so small In 2008, but they've gotten so much bigger since then.

[@gweedus]

@@justinw-bs7053 yeah, because of the the facelift. hes not a reptilian

[@realkekz]

No he doesn't, you can see it in the face, he just had more fat on him back then

[@cleverman383]

He's been replaced by a homunculus

[@jonahmays]

This is beyond politics, I feel bad for him.

[@Sans_Solo_]

No I feel bad for the American people who deserve a capable president. This is wrong what the democrats and media have allowed to happen the past 3.5 years. Period

[@axgrf]

@@Sans_Solo_Trump is just as incapable.

[@ktm1125]

​@axgrf Biden is no longer capable, meanwhile Trump is only capable of wrongdoings 💀
Neither is a fair choice. And this just showcases the problem with the American political scene.

[@TacoFlako]

I feel bad for my wallet since he’s been president, and all those who died in the Russia-Ukraine war because of him.

[@innocentnemesis3519]

@@axgrf stay on topic, no one said he was more capable lmao. we are talking about Biden here

[@jeffreytomaszewski2483]

This is incredibly sad. He was a sharp guy and it's cruel/humiliating to put him on this stage at this point.

[@fergalhennessy775]

nah. he was a puppet for so long he doesn't even realize how embarassing it is anymore.

[@mikeyswift2010]

Time is such a thief man. Just let this man rest. No matter how much you hate him, or how much you love him, he deserves that much.

[@ParallaxEffect]

Its all in the eyes. Just look how his eyes move now. Theyre confused, distant, unfocused. Says it all, no dialogue needed.

[@allhailthee]

They’re vacant and dead. Unfortunately, that happens when you age. He shouldn’t be here anymore.

[@sergeantbigmac]

The thing even more evident to me than his eyes glazing over is the slack jawed mouth gape... Thats the biggest signal to me a geriatric person has deteriorated. Losing control over bodily functions, your brain cant remember to tell your mouth to shut. Thats not just physical decline its a sign there is something wrong mentally. I remember seeing that in the nursing home my Grandma was in, you could tell who had alzheimers/dementia/late stage parkinsons because they are just hollow eyed and slack jawed.

[@onesmileybaldy8303]

I saw one comment from a guy that was watching the 2024 debate and his mom appeared to watch it with him. When he turned to her a couple minutes later she was balling her eyes out,she said the way Baiden was acting reminded her so much of her dad and she thought it was beyond cruel to put a man like that in power

[@BlueHen123]

Bro he's a ghost now

[@courier6960]

For real, as soon as I saw him at the debate I knew he was cooked (I say this as a lifetime democrat). I mean the way he’s looking at trump whenever he speaks alone was terrifying.
You could see he was so DESPERATELY trying with every fiber of his being to just hang onto what was being said.
The Democratic Party needs a new candidate for 2024 or it’s so over. The problem is that he’s not making it an easy transition by digging his heels in.

[@Zwala101]

Look at how much Obama aged during his presidency, even just the first four years. The job's tough. It ages you hard. When you start out old, you end a withered husk like what we see here.

[@jonathanmezzenga2501]

The man’s a feral ghoul

[@BlippiHarlemShake]

And from the withered husk stage you decide its a good idea to run for president again

[@crunchysauce]

And imagine, Obama was in hIs 40s...

[@briggy4359]

Trump looks pretty vivacious

[@sharpieman2035]

Not to mention Biden’s just an old guy. He’s not that bad considering his age, he’s just really old…

[@awgie]

Damn, this man was an absolute bulldog when he was with Obama. It’s very annoying that people belittle him just for getting old, that’s America for you how can you get mad at that. Have you seen McConnell? He’s a literal goblin but still working. Half the people that call Biden “sleepy joe” wouldn’t have lasted 5 mins in a debate with him in the heyday

[@ayhamshaheed7163]

People forget bro is 81 years old..most people don’t even live that long, this guy meanwhile is in office. We need to cut him some slack but at the same time, why are we having two 80 year old guys run for president? This is so stupid

[@Guava11534]

I just don’t get it man this country is so fucked.

[@bob_from_teamspeak]

the soviet union was torn down by old men. seems like it's americas turn now

[@fordakacar]

you can’t cut the president of a country any slack

[@kooroshrostami27]

@@Guava11534 I can't believe these 2 are the best candidates in a country with 333 million inhabitants. Here in Europe we have a lot of clowns in office as well, but these 2 are something else. One is a rambling narcissist who wants to abolish democracy, the other is a rambling mummy with advanced dementia. So embarrassing.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Welp, at least we have Harris now ❤

[@BrendanP]

The difference from 2020 and 2024 is staggering.

[@johnkla7866]

He was already in steep decline in 2020, how people didn't notice that and still voted for him is beyond me. Maybe because he had an excuse due to Covid to be bunkered up at home for most of the campaign.

[@sterlingarcher7101]

It’s sad. And even some Democrats are seeing that he has aged hard from being in one of the most stressful jobs in the world

[@kaltblut]

it already showed somewhat in 2020

[@vozza14]

Covid years..

[@mickeysimon3789]

@@kaltblut I think he was still good in 2020

[@shipwreck8847]

Man, I forgot about 2008 Biden. Biden back then was sharp and feisty.

[@fntatn]

feisty, can confirm

[@Helcaraxe385]

​@@fntatnmany children can also confirm I'm sure

[@Helcaraxe385]

​@@fntatnmany children can also confirm I'm sure

[@sir_john_hammond]

@@fntatn a feisty hair sniffer

[@BlueHen123]

He was top tier debater. Really good with those teeth too lol

[@EatingWaffles]

Aging really sucks man.
Life is just depressing.

[@mojolmao1752]

And people keep breeding lol

[@John-v5m]

Aside from his voice, I couldn’t even recognize Joe Biden in the 2008 debate.

[@hkhilner]

Biden has had so much excessive cosmetic surgery. His face has been so stretched through repeated procedures. It doesn’t make him look younger. He now looks like a corpse.

[@Slaarduk]

Holy shit, the debate between Biden in late 2000s and Trump would have been a spectacular experience.

[@user-tp8pf5ke8o]

Probably would've been an actual debate and not a stupid golf insulting contest

[@orngpeelr9017]

@@user-tp8pf5ke8o not really because Trump is still a clown.

[@nikolaisedov2295]

It doesn’t seem like Donald Trump could hold up in a reasonable argument against a sharp opponent. Not an American btw, that’s what it looks like to me as an outsider

[@Slaarduk]

That's a very good insight. I would feel like they would be on the same level hence why it would be interesting to see how the debate would go.

[@nikolaisedov2295]

@@Slaarduk yeah you might be right, and I’m not that familiar with Trump and his debate skills. But from what i’ve seen he really seems to lean heavily into populism rather than actual reasoning and rational discussions.

[@parcomolo256]

It's terrible to see, what jet lag can do to a person.

[@kamrhd]

Jet lag? His mind is deteriorating, this isn’t jet lag…

[@beardykane]

​@@kamrhdHence the joke.

[@quanganhvu6791]

​@@kamrhdit's a joke. But at the same time that's what the media has been saying to defend him

[@rare6499]

Must have been a heavy cold.

[@nuddin99]

@@quanganhvu6791 The funny part is that he has been in the US for 2 weeks. There is no jet lag.

[@heezythecasual]

damn, Joe in 8-12 shouldve been a president at one point, not 2020-2024 joe,
Joe was sizzling the opps back in the day and he seemed to be passionate about politics

[@ronandynan1228]

It’s made all the more sad when you appreciate just how sharp he used to be. He has never been stupid he’s just past his use by date

[@williamsmith1604]

Joe Biden was a capable candidate in 2008 and 2012. At his peak, he could deliver a good speech and debate performance. The hiccups were starting by 2020, but the contrast between 2020 Joe Biden and 2024 Joe Biden is day and night. Biden fell off fast.

[@user-cp6mt6xl5y]

To be fair, they did choose the 2024 clip of him when he was at his worst. There are plenty of moments where he’s speaking coherently even in the last week.

[@RandomVidsforthought]

After the debate, his performance at the rally in nc was noticeably better

[@AdditionalAccountRequirement]

He’s kinda all over the place at the moment with his poor aging made worse by the frequent travels he does as part of the job as he also didn’t give himself sufficient time to rest before the debate unlike the North Carolina rally when he had more rest from the travels. However according to people close him he’s only fully functionally from 10Am to 7PM and afterwards is poor

[@casuallydone468]

​@@user-cp6mt6xl5y So i assume when he started talking about hunter was his peak in that debate?

[@NoPe-n1j]

@@RandomVidsforthought😂😂😂 he’s better off at speaking when he doesn’t have to answer to anything? When he can just read what’s written for him? Woooooow thank you Mr Holmes 😂😂😂 you truly are brilliant 😂😂😂

[@patrickmanway290]

2008 Joe Biden and 2024 Joe Biden are two different people.

[@tiefensucht]

replaced by an reptiloid ;-)

[@irsvd]

Literally different people I can't believe most people don't see that

[@patrickmanway290]

@@irsvd Nah, he's just old asf now!

[@patrickmanway290]

​@MasDouc Well, look what happened to Diane Fienstein.

[@GoronTico]

@@MasDouc Dude he called zelensky "putin", are you sure we can trust this guy with international politics?

[@MrMiguel211]

He used to be so sharp, so strong with his tone... poor man. It really is just age and not that "he's stupid"

[@WizardSoon]

2008 he is sharp.
2012 he look wise and charming.
2020 he is still fine.
2024...is really rough. He should really retire and let the younger generation steer USA...😢

[@framey3830]

He wasn't "fine" in 2020; his cognitive abilities were a worry then.

[@cduncan6182]

@@framey3830I think this video makes a good case that he was actually cognitively ok, just got words out a little slower in 2020. But the cognitive issues now are undeniable.

[@roddydykes7053]

The little slow downs and stumbles in the 2020 one are so much more noticeable once you see where they started from and where they end up

[@PresbianTier]

Yep, and unfortunately 2020 was much better than 2024.

[@crimson4729]

It’s not much different he was as bad back in 2020 they just pumped him full of drugs

[@willbentley8856]

I just don't understand why he wants a second term. It's an incredibly stressful job and he's already struggling. Doesn't he just want to be with his grandkids?

[@Luck00001]

Maybe he deep down knows what will happen to America if he doesn’t do a second term

[@asAbsolute]

⁠@@Luck00001Thrive and prosper?

[@cleverman383]

Jill wants to stay in the White House

[@guillaumeroussel8633]

There are plenty of rulers in history who clinged to power even when they were cleary too old for it.
Joe Biden is no different.

[@Brandon_J]

​@Luck00001 Didnt people say the same thing in 2016? Trumps administration was the most peaceful the US had been in years.

[@aaronnikels5706]

5:27 “I skibiddi with” 😱💀

[@mrgameshow9688]

Joe Biden = Skibidi Toilet 🥶💀

[@JamesIsNotHere.]

Biden has been infected with brainrot ig

[@vjmcgovern]

Man, I missed when him and trump played Minecraft together.

[@Aa-fg6jf]

We finally beat Medicare 😃

[@HunterShows]

That's due to Biden making sure every single person is eligible for what he's been able to do with the, uh...COVID...uh...dealing with, uh...everything we had to do with...uh...sorry, was this a tax or healthcare question?

[@yungbackshots]

well he's right he did beat medicare, he beat it to death

[@didiervandendaele4036]

TRUMP is my VP.
I´ll beat Trump in 2020 again.
Here´s Putin the President of Ukraine.
Stop him now ! 😮

[@michaelchen2718]

hahaha

[@harrythedirty4256]

Hopefully we beat paying for the industrial military complex

[@cameronsmith1977]

He lost the glint in his eye from 2008 - 2012

[@hutchviews]

blepharoplasty

[@Carson117]

Like an old dog that’s about to die

[@archie7218]

I think the difference between 2008-12 is the smallest. 2012-20 is massive as is 2020-2024. He was clearly too old in 2020 to run for President considering it can be an 8 year job

[@babygoat8582]

@@archie7218it’s smaller but it’s still there

[@EbenWatson]

See ten years ago he was sharp and quick and smart!
This is the man that would’ve gotten my vote without question!

[@icemanemalik]

Imagine a 2008 Joe vs Trump debate 💀

[@bright4608]

Dude was sharp in 2020 compared to now 😭

[@djv1227]

Being president is a tough job

[@dwaynethewokjohnson7773]

@@djv1227that’s why senile sleepy joe is not the guy for it. Would he win again he would be the worst ever with that bad of a cognitive ability

[@Broatch6]

@@bright4608 well … sharp-er

[@Reminisciences]

There are ads from 2020 where even in the best take he had gaffes, he’s been like this a while. The moments of clarity are getting shorter though

[@ComedyBros5]

Like hell he was. “Corn Pop” would like to have a word with you. He hasn’t been in the right mental health or state to run for POTUS for the past 8yrs at the least.

[@Oswaldo_Zuniga]

if your parents or grand parents are getting old like Biden but they still alive, go hug them.

[@michaeljones7372]

What a wonderful comment. Thank you for the reminder

[@teoxvi1432]

Who’s here after he dropped out of the race?

[@beastking2572]

bro looked so aware in 2008 and somewhat young aging is rough

[@BrooksOrlando]

Yeah difference between 65 and 81 is startling. He still basically seemed like a middle-aged guy in 1st clip…maybe on back-end of it, but far from elderly. Fast forward, and he’s a shell of himself. You can sense his mind has left him. You see it in his eyes in 2024. It’s not always mid 60s to 80 where you see this..sometimes it’s 90. Regardless, he hit that wall. He’s not gonna be alive much longer

[@IsaiahGuerrieri]

Im not a fan of Biden but man HE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK.

[@lemonstealinghorse]

Right, man was never able to understand the difference between million, billion and trillion. The amount of times he's mixed those up like it's a small difference is staggering.

[@patrickwthornton]

@@lemonstealinghorse That’s probably the stutter. He quickly corrects himself, but he seems to make mistakes like that frequently.

[@lemonstealinghorse]

@@patrickwthornton LOL are you trolling? He never had a stutter before, now he's suddenly developed one, get real.

[@isaacm2374]

@@lemonstealinghorse Still he was much better debator and communicator than 99% of politicians. Palin, Ryan couldn't keep up with him and his points. Now he's done

[@khobys]

you can notice his stutter in earlier clips, but he recovers within fractions of a second. you can see that over the years increase to a half second, to a second, to eventually what it is today

[@pastywhiteboy9393]

It’s joever.

[@misterjohn2]

Byeden

[@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb]

We're bidone

[@ryandobal]

that can be read two ways, j-OVER, or jo-EVER

[@Cannotoad1201]

@@ryandobalyou forgot the e

[@isaacmak0496]

Owari Da 😞

[@CelestialWolf246]

It's quite saddening how people just started making fun of him recently. Even in his old age he is trying his best to make sense that's rather sad and not something one should make fun of whether due to age or a health condition.

[@intrapersonaI]

2012 he wiped the floor. man i'll miss him

[@thomaspeterson9505]

If he ran in 2016 he could have won

[@nicebluejay]

ahh, politics without trump would have been a dream.

[@accurategamer7085]

​​@@nicebluejay Trump a baller, rest a sore loser 🏀

[@TryNSave]

@@nicebluejayYay, more drone condoning. No, thanks.

[@nicebluejay]

@@TryNSave better than a country where one half hates the other and vice versa.

[@tony84.]

💯. Not allowing President Biden to run in 2016, as he was very loyal, was the WORST decision in American history. He would have won!

[@StormForthcoming]

Oh so it was a lie when the media kept saying he has always had that stutter. Nope, it’s new. He’s way too old to be president.

[@ltfringr]

He actually has had a stutter since childhood, the lie is that his obvious cognitive decline is just his stutter.

[@mma0911]

Well he's had a bit of a stutter in the past. It's FAR more pronounced now. These are just example clips but you can find other clips of Joe Biden stuttering in the past, though nowhere near as bad as 2024.

[@ltfringr]

@@mma0911 Yeah, I wasn't trying to say that he isn't stuttering more, just that the fact that he stutters isn't made up even though his cognitive decline is obvious.

[@uNki23]

He might be too old, but Trump is too stupid and too crazy.

[@wile123456]

No the media didn't lie. He was born with a stutter. It's litterally a speech disability that comes from a small defector in the brain. He was bullied in his childhood for it. But over his life he has been able to suppress it and minimize to the point where he doesn't stutter. However as he ages, gets older and more tired, supressing the stutter becomes harder. It has always been a speech debugger for him, having to spend energy to supress it, but as he gets old, it becomes more impossible. You can hear he already starts to mumble words more in the 2012 clip.
It's impossible to completely understand for someone without the disability.

[@ItsMeGPZ]

To have a sharp political mind is a gift that is given to hardly anyone these days, and to lose your ability to express your thoughts is heartbreaking. To finally get the job of your dreams, only when you're far too old to make the best use out of it, then to be told by your friends and colleagues that you have to step aside and leave has to be one of the most difficult things that can happen to a man like that. I wish it came earlier, I wish it happened under better terms. It shouldn't be, "Go away, you old fart. We don't want you here." It should be, "Joe, you've had one of the most remarkable political careers in America. You've lived a life of service, you've done your duty to this country, and right now, the last step in insuring the future of your country is to step aside and let the future take over." It has to happen. It has to be this way, but it doesn't come out of malice. It comes out of absolute necessity, because the threat that faces this country is too large to make mistakes over. Joe Biden was a good president. He did his job, he did his duty, but the future is imperiled and we can't afford to take chances.

[@slamsuperslam]

So true, he’s been chasing this his entire career, the pinnacle of American politics, becoming the President. And it’s just too late, he’s too old. Really a tragedy.

[@OliverS0319]

People acting like Trump ain’t also old af

[@ripvanwinkle9935]

Looking? He is

[@OliverS0319]

@@ripvanwinkle9935 very true, I’ll edit the comment to be more accurate

[@trishapaytasbabyisthequeen4733]

(Not a Trump fan) but Trump has definitely not cognitively declined like Biden has. But, the presidency is so stressful I don’t think it’ll take long for Trump to decline too. The age that they’re both in is so risky. My grandma went from hiking up a fort and solving complex puzzles to being bedridden and imaging things in her head in a span of three years. And she was retired so no stress there really

[@WetToast06]

Yeah but he’s still fine mentally unlike Biden

[@GDUBLU_Fan]

@@trishapaytasbabyisthequeen4733exactly

[@Joker-yw9hl]

I always assumed back in 2020 that he would serve just the one term and pass it on to his VP. Can't understand why he won't stand down. George Washington was the President that set the example to all future Presidents.

[@Pllayer064]

Well well well

[@stache2272]

You're not gonna believe what I'm about to tell you

[@OrangeBoiiii]

About that…

[@colesmith4145]

Small but important detail: up until this year the visual backdrop for the candidates was the Preamble to the Constitution. Now it’s the CNN logo. A small but telling sign of one of the many things that has gone wrong with this whole process.

[@consumer6622]

Since 1988, presidential debates have been organized by the Commission on Presidential Debates. This year, Biden's and Trump's campaigns circumvented the Commission and agreed to debates organized by TV networks.

[@RaunchyLemon]

​@@consumer6622Biden would not, for any reason, do a debate that ISN'T on Cnn. That was the biggest demand when agreeing to the debates. Trump felt confident and agreed, we saw what happened.

[@xyz.anonymous]

@@consumer6622that's so messed

[@pipodrankje]

​@@consumer6622 Only in corporate America...

[@brick.jonas1]

Bruh this hits different now that he's stepping down

[@ddodd69]

yep.

[@woodsmaneh952]

Integrity.

[@luisayala7226]

He’s been old for a long time

[@alexandersanchez9138]

4:45 He's so old, he's accidentally outing America's 1000 trillionaires.

[@gn8437]

This is just sad. I almost feel bad for him

[@justinp5661]

Almost lol

[@jeffmccullough7341]

Happens to almost all of us who will be lucky enough to grow old

[@Noah-pr2or]

​@justinp5661 Well yeah, he's ruined America and made us a joke.

[@jeffmccullough7341]

@@Noah-pr2or no point in conversing with the stupid. Good luck, I hope one day the staff will give you something sharper than crayons to write your manifesto with

[@luckylanno]

​@Noah-pr2or are you a bot?

[@HeyHax]

Have an age limit. Why is the capital building a retirement home for these boomers

[@hazamelis]

The 2020 to 2024 impresses more than the one from 2008 to 2004. 2008 to 2024 are decades apart, they are naturally going to be different. In 2020 he looks old, stumbles a little, but I still see him as competent and has strength on his voice, it makes me think, yeah, I can get old, but I will still be competent. 2024 shatters all those illusions.

[@luker3752]

He has achieved much in his time in office such as finally beating Medicare and being the first black woman to be president of the United States, but it's time to step aside and let Vice-President Trump take over.

[@justinbaker2883]

This has gotta be the top 5 funniest YT comments ever written. I'm dyin

[@EGO0808]

…. and work together with president Putin from Ukraine.

[@cleverman383]

He's doing the goodest job he can

[@whyme3772]

Actively working with China to stop communism

[@ComedyBros5]

Truly a man

[@fluorideenjoyer]

If he ran in 2016 he'd probably have a much better legacy than he does now

[@jeffmccullough7341]

He might still have lost. People really didn’t know how bad the undercurrent of america was at this point

[@sheevpalps3846]

I think he would’ve won, it was off of Obama and he had a better reputation than Clinton with the rust belt states and independents

[@joshua3630]

As a conservative, his legacy would be fine as an American Senator, VP and President if he were to step aside now.
But if i was him i wouldnt step aside either. Theres been far worse presidents than Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden combined.

[@jeffmccullough7341]

@@joshua3630 Trumps didn’t get much accomplished, but his rhetoric alone puts him in the bottom 5.

[@endmysuffering2699]

@@jeffmccullough7341I’m sure you’re looking at it objectively with no bias.

[@DaltonFan28]

Joe was freaking ROARING in 2008 and his voice sounded so different it was shocking! It's genuinely depressing seeing him in his current state. Bro needs to retire from politics for GOOD!

[@geeday1619]

He did so well in the debates in 2020. For his age. He deteriorated so much after that.

[@hsue-shen626]

Yeah, I guess being a president is very draining

[@JoshLuck95]

Cannot argue against his motivation, if he didnt care he would of thrown in the towel a long time ago, but everyone can see his time is up.

[@shanekeenaNYC]

Like, he doesn't have the same glint in the eye and his collagen levels have decreased dramatically.

[@LolzLiamz]

Calm down guys, in 2024 he did so much, like appointing Vice President Trump, welcoming the president of ukraine, President Putin, and beating medicare!

[@scanorama346]

And being the first black woman to serve with a black president

[@Broatch6]

@@LolzLiamz and never fell over or tripped on the stairs

[@romeobanerjee1216]

You are so childish and stupid making fun of an old man whose health has deteriorated, in old age, you will not escape this either.

[@ZValenT]

People don't seem to realise that there are 16 years between 2008 and 2024. As far as im concerned, Joe was still pretty lucid when he became president. He just didn't know when to step down

[@jacquielantern-]

can joe brandon discuss the fanum tax next

[@DJ13854]

Imagine how he would be in 4 more years!

[@Bd-ng1zv]

He definitely won’t be president in 2028, even if he gets elected.

[@rAleksandrrrDunkelheit43666]

Ded

[@tanakaaiko-]

💀

[@extreme97554]

🪦

[@GoronTico]

I dont think he has 4 years left in the tank

[@doubtful8262]

LETS FINALLY BEAT MEDICARE BOYS! 🔥 WE CAN DO THIS 💯🔥🔥

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

He did beat Medicaid, he beat it to death and he’s destroying Medicare.

[@andresreal8261]

For those saying this is a "he's too old" issue... It's not. My mother is 77, that is just 4 years younger than Biden. She never has to re-calculate and backtrack her wording, she's just as quickwitted as she was when she was 45-50, she can keep up the pace with my regular walks while chatting without taking a break nor needing to catch her breath (I'm 35)... This is not "just" an age issue. Biden aged BADLY. It happens to some people. He also survived 2 brain aneurysms when he was 45. They didn't evolve into fullblown strokes, but even then, that's not "free". There's a high likelyhood complications like those will eventually catch up to you in your old age.
IDK if he'll live 4 more years or not, but he FOR SURE won't be cognitively adept to live without almost constant caretaking for 4 more years, which, for the PRESIDENCY... It's kind of the same thing. And besides... LOOK WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE: "You think this guy will fucking DIE in 4 years?"... Screw policy, we're not even sure he'll be drawing breath! He needs to step down and let someone else take the lead. This isn't about him as much as taking the car keys from grandpa isn't about grandpa. It's about the pedestrians (aka: the rest of the country, in this case).

[@xTheSweetyMan]

Tldr

[@andresreal8261]

@@xTheSweetyMan K

[@Overhemd]

Tldr, can you rephrase in a couple of sentences please?

[@andresreal8261]

@@Overhemd I can.

[@honzikca8757]

Him stepping down would effectively make it a guaranteed win for Trump, it's just not possible for that to realistically happen. I also don't think you can compare him your mother, unless she had an incredibly high stress job that was essentially her life, I get what you're trying to say but it's just not a proper comparison. At such a high age people just deteriorate, it's how it is. While ideally he would step down and have someone take the place, it's not a realistic solution, and it isn't happening.
With all that said, even a moldy piece of bread is better than Trump as president.
People rag on Biden for talking badly, but that's about it, his office makes good decisions and overall his presidency is not bad, unlike Trump's. If you see the news, you will notice Trump is someone who should be in jail, but because of his status and the corruption in the government, he gets off scot free. He should not be running either, yet nobody is talking about that.

[@frujey]

I thought 2020 Biden wasn't that fit for president. Looking at this, 2020 biden is miles better compared to Biden now. I don't really give a crap about politics, but I hope he can live his last few years in peace.

[@Youtubedictatorship]

Two words “billion trillion million dollars taxed for humfumgrghgh”

[@VIAOV]

Finally, someone who reaaly speaks to us gjfucjcn

[@strattino]

This makes me sad

[@ornlu_the_wolf]

Big decline from 2012-2020. He shouldn't have even been the 2020 nominee. 2024? Forget it.

[@LatvianGambit]

You can see Trump going down the same path as well

[@stewiegriffin12341]

2012 Biden was peak.

[@steveconnor1076]

Nah he just kept interrupting and not letting that other dude finish a point

[@SapeHallward]

​@@doxtopsPeak for the republicans

[@mido7ad947]

​@@SapeHallward💀

[@isaacm2374]

@@steveconnor1076 Isn't that what all US politicians do? Any debate I've watched republicans or democrat have people talking over each other

[@yakmilch]

i mean he was debating paul fucking ryan, almost impossible to not win that debate

[@GabrielsLogic]

Im not shocked honestly. Its normal for a man his age to decline. He is a decent man who is simply old

[@jakeman025]

You’re really unaware of the irreversible damage he’s done to the US and frankly the world.

[@GabrielsLogic]

@@jakeman025 nothing to do with my comment but whatever

[@CC45-As]

@@GabrielsLogic You said “He is a decent man” though, reminds me of the “You’re a decent man Arthur Morgan” thing. So yes, it does have something to do with it.

[@GabrielsLogic]

@@CC45-As what are you talking about?

[@CC45-As]

@@GabrielsLogic Read again please

[@DAMfoxygrampa]

Dude was a lion in 2008, now he's a withering old man

[@MrJoshualee2479]

He’s still a lion.

[@Joshua-gc8sg]

​@@MrJoshualee2479 🤣🤣😊 a staggering old man with dementia is not a lion

[@MrJoshualee2479]

@@Joshua-gc8sg but you think a cheeto is? Interesting. 💋

[@spooky_pluto1]

The way Trump looks at him at the end. He looks like he feels sorry for him.

[@mee091000]

I noticed that too actually. First time I watched I was so focused on what Joe was saying that I didn't realize exactly how Trump responded there. It's like he _wanted_ him to both do and sound better.

[@simonzonenblick395]

Off topic, but as a Brit two things struck me about the language used: in the UK, "Middle class" is always used as a slur - "Ugh! That's such a middle class thing to say...", "They only care about the middle classes..." and hardly anyone ever admits to being part of it - there is even a trend for very comfortably off middle class people to drop their t's or h's and pretend to be less well off; almost everyone comes "from a working class background" and is apparently the first person in their family to go to University. The phrase "prolier than thou" is attached to such people. In the States, I've noticed that it tends to be used in a positive sense, to basically most people, on average/middle incomes. In the UK class is much more bound up in background and supposed attitudes and tastes. The second thing, perhaps trivial, is that he says "not one penny," rather than "not one cent," and I hadn't realised "penny" - UK currency of course - is referenced in American parlance.

[@yabbaguy]

Just in case… our one-cent coin is a “penny”, but then we say “two pennies”, not “pence”.
Never thought of middle-class as perjorative, interesting!

[@watsonwrote]

Yeah, in the US people who are poor will often consider themselves middle-class and people who very well-off will do the same because being the everyman--not to poor and not too rich--is usually preferable and people don't want to consider themselves an outlier.
Also our single-cent coins are called pennies, so they're often referenced in expression. Our coins are pennies, nickles, dimes, and quarters.

[@locorum9103]

Yes, the United States is not class conscious. It's the same in Australia, this nebulous notion of the 'middle class' covers everyone from apartment renters to millionaires at this point. I think the UK is different because they never got rid of the aristocracy.

[@rudid3227]

Germany is also more like US in this, everyone wants to be part of Mittelstand or middle class

[@izzy4reel]

@@yabbaguy We did have a Mike Pence.

[@Bighoodiekid]

5:26 Trumps face when Biden says I skibidi with gets me every time 😂

[@NickHernandez2024]

"uh ecuse me"

[@Luck00001]

We finally learned what lead to bidens rapid deterioration he’s been watching skibidi toilet for the last 4 years

[@mattyice2099]

Gen alpha brainrot got you

[@mrgameshow9688]

5:27

[@lucasnadamas9317]

He does an honest double take lmao

[@fvtown]

Guy did the right thing. Had a more effevtive term than anyone ever expected

[@thomas_the_cat]

man has aged like 10-15 years just from 2020 to 2024... being the us president sure shaves years off an individual

[@Broatch6]

Oh dearie me 🤔☹️
Biden 2008 👍
Biden 2012 👍
Biden 2020 👍👎
Biden 2024 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Oh dearie me
God Save America 🇺🇸

[@Weirdgeek83]

You can tell he even declined in 2020 when you compare to 2012. Everyone thinks he sounded so good compared to now,but there was a noticeable difference between his performance in 2012 and 2020. Imagine 2012 Biden debating trump

[@Taxiway_Alpha]

Your room temperature IQ is showing.

[@0w3nn]

his decline is crazy

[@Ronam0451]

​@@Taxiway_Alpha u mad?

[@jhenmoran2]

the difference is that trump has been insane since 1992. He left a child Home Alone in his hotel.

[@shmoo1000]

Look at that debilitating "stutter" that he definitely always had

[@jaymothman]

He definitely has always had a stutter, he can no longer contain it because he’s going senile

[@IsomerSoma]

He always had a stutter indeed, but ... this very obviously isnt just a stutter.

[@flouserschird]

Also that little laugh when he knows he’s losing an argument

[@dylancarr8415]

I feel so bad for Joe being strung up to dry like this on such a public stage. Horrific really.

[@SFSomega]

People get old, that's a normal thing. In fact he got older than most people do, especially in his country.
He achieved a lot in his life, so why does he not retire with dignity, while he still can.

[@HunterShows]

You can see how this guy got into office. Now he's just there because he was a senator and "incumbency."

[@inquerion8867]

He is also easy to control...for example President Kennedy wasn't, so he had to go...

[@MichaelBarnathan]

@@inquerion8867 if you think he's easy to control, you haven't been paying attention for the last two weeks

[@user-tp8pf5ke8o]

@@inquerion8867 shut up with your conspiracy theories man

[@ricksanchez6766]

@@user-tp8pf5ke8oit’s not a conspiracy theory when he visits Putin every other month and admits to knowing about the invasion of Ukraine

[@user-tp8pf5ke8o]

@@ricksanchez6766 Absolute bloke, you serious? There was literally Russian troop buildup across the Ukrainian border in 2021, there were tons of news outlets discussing it, as well as tons of videos predicting the obvious invasion. But I guess you can't just look at the obvious proof that says, that yeah, there was troop build up all along the border, I wonder what will happen, instead of thinking that it was completely unknown that it would happen

[@RandomShowerThoughts]

My god, 2012 to 2020 was a hell of a difference

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

I love Biden but I’m glad he dropped out. It’s actually sad how much age effected him both mentally and his appearance

[@Aaron.Seabolt]

I’ve said since 2020 let the man go retire and be with his friends and family. You can tell his thoughts are rapid firing. But his mouth can’t keep up and is getting jumbled.