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  • @tianqilong8366
    @tianqilong8366 Рік тому +6

    I did it in a more complex way.
    since RHS is an integer, so LHS must be integer as well, so n has to be even.
    let n=2k, it follows that k(k+1) = m4+m2-m+1=(m^2+1)m^2 - (m-1)
    Since RHS has to be product of two consecutive integers,
    And since
    m^2(m^2+1) - k(k+1) = m-1;
    m^2(m^2+1) -m^2(m^2-1) = 2m^2
    2m^2>m-1 for any real number m.
    so (k+1)k>m^2 (m^2-1) is the only solution here.
    Which means k>=m^2, which means m-1

  • @sadeekmuhammadryan4894
    @sadeekmuhammadryan4894 Рік тому +1

    That trick at 2:26 is mind-blowing! 🤯

  • @brinzanalexandru2150
    @brinzanalexandru2150 Рік тому +5

    My method was to set n=2k (following form n(n+2)/4) becouse for this expression every even number will give an integer so then I got the equation k²+k=m⁴+m²-m+1 now move k²+k to rhs and factor in the following way (m²-k)(m²+k+1)=-(m-1) now becouse m,n≥0 it follow that k≥0 but by doing manipulations with that inequalities we get that m²-k≥0 and m²+k+1≥1 but so their product is at least 1 but becouse -(m-1) it would only be possible if m-1≤0 so m≤1 and we. have to check only m=0 and m=1 to get our pair (m,n)=(1,2)

    • @brinzanalexandru2150
      @brinzanalexandru2150 Рік тому

      PS:for the case when m²≤k it follows that m>1 but then we get (2m²)²

    • @tianqilong8366
      @tianqilong8366 Рік тому

      how is m^2-k >=0, what kind of manipulation should I use?

    • @brinzanalexandru2150
      @brinzanalexandru2150 Рік тому

      @@tianqilong8366 I should check 2 cases 1)when m²-k≥0
      2)when m²-k≤0
      Check my second comment in order to see the prove that there are no solutions for the second case

  • @fix5072
    @fix5072 Рік тому +4

    Nice and easy 👍

  • @nit_man
    @nit_man Рік тому

    nice approach

  • @iainfulton3781
    @iainfulton3781 Рік тому +1

    Turn on postifications

  • @brendanmiralles3415
    @brendanmiralles3415 Рік тому

    that was such a beautiful solution mine was vastly more complicated 😭

  • @harshvadher9234
    @harshvadher9234 Рік тому

    Very easy sir.👍

  • @mathcanbeeasy
    @mathcanbeeasy Рік тому +2

    OK,
    Since RHS is integer, then n must be even. If we write n=2k, then
    k*(k+1) = m^4+m^2-m+1
    But a consecutive product is even, so, in the LHS, m must be odd (So no zero from the begining :))).
    Now, the expresion m^4+m^2-m+1 must be a product of 2 consecutive numbers. In fact, we don't need n or k next, is anough just that LHS is a product of 2 consecutive numbers.
    This product, obviously, will be "connected"with m^2-1, m^2, m^2+1.
    So, we are going to prove that our expresion in m is bigger than a product of 2 consecutive numbers and less than the next product of 2 consecutive numbers.
    First product: (m^2-1)*m^2
    Let's prove (m^2-1)*m^2=0 which is allways true (discriminant is negative). More of that,
    (m^2-1)*m^2 < m^4+m^2-m+1 (the inequality is strictly)
    If we take the product of the other 2 consecutive numbers: m^2(m^2+1)
    Let's prove m^4+m^2-m+1=1. But m is odd, so the inequality is allways true, with equal sign when m is 1.
    So
    (m^2-1)*m^2 < m^4+m^2-m+1 -m+1=0 => m=1
    Therefore m=1 is the only solution. And then n=2, of course.

  • @bigalxyz
    @bigalxyz Рік тому +3

    Quite simple with the inequality trick, but how did you think of that trick? Nice anyway 👍🏻

    • @jwy4264
      @jwy4264 Рік тому

      hes seen it many times before

    • @filippomolteni8402
      @filippomolteni8402 Рік тому

      I saw this trick some times to find when an expression is a square, it’s very useful to reduce the possible values of some numbers and then make calculuses with easy values. A simple examples are “find when 9n^2+36n+76 is a perfect square” or “solve 16n^2+7n+4=m^2”

    • @mcwulf25
      @mcwulf25 Рік тому

      It appears a lot in number theory problems. Especially when Michael Penn is solving them!

  • @leif1075
    @leif1075 Рік тому

    Whybeven add 1 after multiplying bith sides by 4..why not just set both sides as a product..n can equal 4 and then n plus 2 equals equals rest ofnthe expression and solve or n equals 2 and n plus 2 equals 2 times all the other terms and so on..

  • @willbishop1355
    @willbishop1355 Рік тому +4

    These problems where the only solution is the obvious one are getting a bit old.

  • @papanujian7758
    @papanujian7758 Рік тому

    nice solution