The time I left a union shop for a non-union shop and got better benefits

[@FordBossMe]

Mind you I still work for this company today little disclaimer

[@Nathan_Jay]

The best part about unions is when you find a company where you don't need em.

[@jimmyaber5920]

Yes, unions set the bar that some employers use to make sure they don't have more limiting workplace rules of the union. Delta airlines comes to mind. In the south where the unions are not much of a factor dealer techs will often pay more than $1000/month to cover 2 kids and a wife for $15000 yearly deductible coverage.

[@allencolvin4320]

Or start working for yourself and hire an accountant...

[@DynoSauR4Truth]

I've had the same experience with Unions in my line of work. They will help bad employee's and not help good employee's. I've only ever been held up by a Union and had to grease their palms to get them to stop holding me back. If you are a good worker then you usually don't need a Union.

[@billsimons6658]

The number one sign of bad management is employees feeling the need to unionize.

[@Patrick-qv8qe]

I just finished leading with the NLRB and had the union voted out of my shop! NLRB was very helpful with the proper way to do everything and it took about three months. Surprisingly the union never fought back because they new we had enough interest to shut the door.
*Contract was a page in a half! Not much they were doing anyways*
Nice your old employeer took care of you, this isn't the norm nowadays.

[@treborg777]

I have the same viewpoints on unions. I’ve had some bad experiences with unions, but I recognize conditions exist that require unions. I believe that unions are a sign of poor management.

[@Craig-wp3pz]

Nice to hear not one but two positive things about previous employers, can see why you ended up where you have, sometimes it's worth accepting less money to be working with or for a better quality of company or person, but you bagged an increase!!!!!
Great channel, TONS of great content, and a great positive attitude!
Keep it up FBM!

[@theturtle2121]

That’s awesome that they paid you for the two weeks!👍

[@leebrowwski]

I can identify with you. I am a lone wolf AND a team player. The union where I worked was never backing up every last member. I just wanted to do my job without politics, so I didn't go postal.

[@ronnestman4696]

Me too man. I’m right there with you.

[@boondocker7964]

I did go Postal, stayed there for 25 years, been retired for 11 years, a union is only as good as the people in it.

[@MyTheBlackJack]

I've had this same experience where my old union (up in Canada here) was in the owners pocket (previous dealership). I find it hard to believe a union manager in Canada can afford a brand new 90k$ Mercedes-Benz. I got a better offer working for my old boss but in a new dealership that was non-union. In my first interview, I was asked if I have ever got into trouble enough to use the Union. My response to that was "If I do my job right, don't mess up or make bad calls, or don't show up late to work, why would I need a union?". I'm proud to say I got a 4$/hr pay raise, a damn good crew that are serious and goofy at the same time (think monkeys in the shop), a fantastic dealership owner and I am finally completely over my extreme depression as well as anxiety and fear of working in this trade.

[@stevemasterson7776]

Good luck on the move. 2 week notices are tricky

[@Mike-jn2hn]

The way I see it is, " You be you! " I always defer back to the way my mother raised me. Which sometimes involved the hibiscus bush across my butt. Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.

[@SALEEN961]

I've never liked labor unions, they hold back the best employees and prop up the worst ones. I don't want to take a pay cut just so the new guy can get a starting salary that's twice what I made. Starting out at $9/hr sucks, but if you're good you won't be at a low wage like that for long. A good friend of mine transferred from a union shop to a non-union shop in the same company because the company wanted to promote him and give him a raise but the union wouldn't allow it. He hadn't been there very long and the union contract said that raises and promotions were scheduled based on years worked in the union, didn't matter how good or bad you were, when you had enough time in you got a raise.

[@johnb9394]

Unions get more money when you pay the employees more. " Unions = Money magnet" You pay them they shut up. They just want a piece of the pie for their services.

[@thebaldmechanichardatheari1124]

If you are good you can sell yourself. Don’t need an union.

[@jsjizzaone3590]

Thats an awesome and true story!! Very honorable company to acknowledge an employee and what youve done for them!! Thats how notices should end....awesome thx for the story AB Be blessed !

[@matt2118]

Didn’t know you were a veteran, thank you for your service.

[@domusdebellum3042]

my grandmother has received a check every month for the past 20 years thanks to union negotiated retirement plan. she never worked for the company, and was never in the union. but she ran the household of a man who did. the union recognized her for that. its been 20 years and a few months my grandfather died after 10 years of retirement. theyve paid her ever since and they will until she dies.

[@randyjenkins8743]

So the union is spending union dues on a non-union member doesn't sound corrupt at all...

[@chapulineroenohio5406]

Railroad Union? Norfolk Southern has something like that.

[@Terminxman]

@@randyjenkins8743 Right? Lol. Same with donating millions to the clintons and having their pension fund run out of money like the teamsters and others

[@domusdebellum3042]

@@randyjenkins8743 no, thats not what union dues are spent on. its payed for because the company invests 150% of what the employees invest. this allows the spouse to focus on running the household and raising the children. it used to not be uncommon for families to thrive and retire on single incomes. its not so common these days. if you want to buy a home these days you almost need 2 incomes.

[@domusdebellum3042]

@@randyjenkins8743 i find that people most likely to object to unions are conservatives who like to hire illegal workers for poverty wages.

[@leoowes2234]

You are very blessed brother. Keep up the great work.

[@captidgas]

the union is only as strong as its members

[@Xander1Sheridan]

only if they actually try. Plenty of unions are happy taking your money and ignoring you completely.

[@ronnestman4696]

Man you just hit my raw nerve. I’m in a union and I have some strong feelings about it.

[@NewBeginningNewCreation]

I'm glad you said that about the union. I commented on one of your videos about the union and you know where I was coming from.

[@brooklynbummer]

It all depends on the employer who cares or does not care about employees. Some employers are great people while others treat employees like machines.

[@johngz3413]

Ive been a member of two union's one kinda watched out for us the second one was a fucked situation where the negotiations for yearly raises hadn't even managed to maintain the rate at a par relative to inflation. I got a 5 cent raise while watching the bank say 4% inflation so far and another 3% to come by year end... So my 5 cent raise worked out to be a 2% rate reduction relative to inflation.... I left that place right after calling a building inspector and the apprentice board of Canada.

[@oldbiker9739]

over the years I have worked for teamsters and operating engineers mostly mechanic on OTR trucks , and with operating engineers as heavy equipment operator and HD mechanic , I never had a problem they paid really well , buy law they have to pay your pension or savings plan out at 60 years old in Canada . I totally forgot about the union pension plan , then 3 years a go a 15k cheque from operating engineers in the mail . a year later a teamster cheque 13k nice ,in 2001 went to work as a heavy duty mechanic for BP petroleum , they paid better than union just to keep the union out , Devon petroleum was the last great company as well as Dome petroleum.

[@robertholden8956]

Unions aren't really needed in the UK as there are plenty of legal protections, state healthcare and mandated holidays of around 28 days. These conversations about healthcare just don't happen in the UK. For every person here who complains about some doctor they didn't like, I hear 50 who tell me what a great experience they had with our NHS. You still get best outcomes by being proactive and asking about treatments. Many expect doctors to be psychic and diagnose when you don't explain yourself.

[@macs65mustangrestoration]

Pass on the union.

[@JoshuaBrown-is8fb]

I used to work for a union steel plant. A union is only as good as the people in it and the people backing it. Although there are decent employers out there that actually care about their employees that aren’t union.

[@bwillan]

When you give your notice, most companies will pay you for that time and have you leave right away. In Canada the labour laws require notice or pay in lieu notice from the company when you are terminated without cause from your job.

[@NIKOSAUTOS]

Union does not mean you automatically have the best benefits out there. Smaller companies typically have the best benefits.

[@AdriftAndAtPeace323]

It’s good to hear the rush you worked for took care of you. The rush I worked for was not a great experience. It was so poorly run and maintained that a lot of mornings walking into work I would look around and just be blown away I worked for a dealership and not some hole in the wall mom and pop shop

[@davidspangler7667]

Depends on the union and industry. I'm a truck driver local, and make more money being g union. Plus free Healthcare for entire family and pay almost nothing in co-pays plus company pays 130 a month into health savings account. My kids getting free braces.

[@stevennunez6013]

My state doesn't even have unions lol and I get pretty good benefits I worked at a nissan dealership that was owned by berkshaw hathaway I have now been at a family owned chevy dealership since 2015

[@bml33]

Years ago I learned that its always proper to give at least 2 weeks notice to be considerate of your employer and not leave them high and dry but today we're in a different place. The rise in workplace violence over the last 15-20 years has made it so that anyone seen as a liability has to be off the premises. Terminate employment when they give notice, even if it leaves the shop short staffed. You just never know who is going to come in with an AR-15 and finish things off. Its a sad fact of life in the 21st century. In my type of work I don't think they would do that to me....but who knows. I see a lot of job openings today that say start immediately, maybe they know that even if they hire someone who is currently employed they won't be after they give notice.

[@jamesr5741]

I think it's more for staff who want to sabotage the business to get back at them.

[@bml33]

@@jamesr5741 Well that happens a lot more today than years ago as well, sadly.

[@georgemartin1436]

Holy crap 450 a month? GEEZ that's a lot! I only had one union position offered, but they had no pension, I'd have been locked out of the company pension plan and 401K, lose all vacation time, have consistent (but low percentage) raises and then the dues of course. So I had to turn down the position. I also didn't like the same raise for everyone deal...the laziest guy gets the same raise as the best worker...

[@PP-mu4mn]

In the UK unions are a joke I was a member of one of the biggest unions in the country and when we were getting made redundant the union really screwed us all over and theregional union guy we had used to go out for dinners with the company bosses ill never join a union again

[@jamesr5741]

Same here in Aus with the heads of my former union going out for steak dinners with the company bosses. Sleeping with the enemy.

[@Zeamus634]

@@jamesr5741 you see your bosses as the enemy? Why would you continue to work there???

[@jamesr5741]

@@Zeamus634 It's a conflict of interest, everyone knows that....

[@Zeamus634]

@@jamesr5741 that wasn't my question...

[@jamesr5741]

@@Zeamus634 It doesn't require explanation.....that's the point. Companies often cry poor and act only in their own interests, why should we let them?

[@peterkovacs8654]

Yeah, the union screward. You get screwed while the company benefits. That doesn't always happen, but it's pretty common

[@edgarpadilla7397]

Unions are a money suck. They never did anything for me at any job but take my dues.

[@junglejim5785]

And spend them on their political hacks.

[@jamesr5741]

The trouble with unions is a lot of the members themselves are too petty to stick together. Watch the movie 'Life of Brian'. Very funny and it shows it perfectly!

[@MySparkle888]

Agreeded, I have never been helped by a union!

[@VitaliyKofman]

I never worked for a union and never had any problems

[@janakakumara3836]

I like your channel. It seems like even highly skilled technicians have to deal with mistreatment from management and others frequently. It seems there are many bad-faith actors in the world who are out to abuse the goodwill of others.

[@FordBossMe]

Thanks Brother

[@danielguerra626]

I'm sorry for your union experience. I worked in both non union and union shops. If it wasn't for the IBEW, I would be on disability, because of my medical condition, that I was born with.

[@PumaPete]

I am in a union and I've got a great job. But I understand exactly what you're saying. You present your situation with honesty and I appreciate that. Union's have their flaws. There are things I don't like about mine. But I know I wouldn't make what I do and have what I have without them. I hate that lousy workers are protected by them when they should be fired but you take the good with the bad. When you're good at what you do, you don't necessarily need a union. Your work speaks for itself.

[@FordBossMe]

Amen Brother

[@zubirhusein]

Worker's unions are created when an employer treats its employees bad enough that they decide to overcome the obstacles and risks to create one. Aside from the power imbalance between employers and unions, ideally we would live in a world where unions aren't necessary

[@Zeamus634]

I'd never continue to work somewhere where I'd need the services of a union...

[@WCGwkf]

My job pays all medical plus the entire big ass family of others there. If I have a visit I do have a small copay but last time I went I got a check in the mail for the copay so it was free for some reason. It's such a huge dollar per hour number to not have to pay half or some shit (like 4 per hour for just a young single person would be 10 for a family). It is unfortunate that at least one guy has like literally everyone in his family tied on and the company told everyone to make sure you take peoole off that aren't supposed to be on just abusing it. Makes the company have a huge savings on me being young and no family to add on.

[@blue.5058]

I work in (what used to be) the film business here in L.A. and I remember when you could make a GOOD living doing stuff like independent (meaning non-Union) features, commercials, and even music videos. The unions would concern themselves with the BIG features and shows and not even bother with the smaller stuff. One entity wouldn’t mess with other.
But then NAFTA came to be in 1993 (something the film biz unions stupidly advocated for) and everything left for Canada and beyond, which killed the business here (and is still a problem to this day- you could shoot a cannon through any of the major studios with the lack of stuff going on).
This resulted in the unions out here sticking their tentacles into stuff they originally had no presence in including those commercials and independents, as the unions realized they slit their own throats by advocating for NAFTA. This eliminated any chance of seeing anything cool in them, all because the unions swallowed up any budgets that would have gone to the production with payoffs and other bureaucracy.
The worst is getting threatened by Union enforcers to join at risk of having your work truck torched (or worse). I’ve seen those kind of mafia-like tactics happen first hand.
The only times I got massively screwed over as far as my pay (and even personal safety) were on Union shows, too. Union reps would pull me off of jobs because of “reasons”, only to put their nephews in… days would be deleted from my pay… hours toward my retirement (which is underfunded by millions due to embezzlement from Union bosses) would go poof with no explanation…
Now the film unions out here are pushing that woke nonsense with regard to future potential members. Never mind the fact that the ones doing the crying about that wouldn’t dream of doing what I do for example, as a lot of the work is dirty, incredibly labor-intensive, and even incredibly dangerous. In short, they want the glory and don’t want to do any of the work.
So yeah- I used to make a TON more money during independent stuff when compared to the Union stuff.

[@bardrick4220]

Here in Canada all my medical is paid for; basically everything except medications, and I'm covered for any preexisting or chronic condition! I'll never understand why Americans don't want this! (Sorry for the politics)

[@nicke5786]

I do know in Michigan anytime I have done that and they tell me to leave, I do believe they are obligated to pay you for that time especially if u do it writing. It’s happened to me on more than one occasion. No need to burn bridges when you don’t have to

[@AusWash]

I believe Rush Trucking is now closed down

[@FordBossMe]

I know they closed the bunch of facilities that were not producing but I didn't know everything closed down

[@rcsd2007]

Rush Truck the Dealership is alive and well and growing everyday. I'm at tech for them in GA. We're either announcing a new location or remodeling a current location monthly.

[@brot5246]

You should do a whole video on the 90's model ranger with that 4.0 engine...."chasing demons"

[@chuckdarwin6887]

You would probably make more getting paid flag hours. Hourly is lame if your quick and accurate.

[@jacksheredano9190]

No offense to any skilled labor union (Electricians, Carpenter, Plumbers,etc.) but most Unions I have been was a joke. I was in the Teamsters as a Temporary in a Factory in 2006 which was a joke and I want my money back because they were going to fire us anyway. Grocery union as College kid, Joke. I also tried to get an Apprenticeship with Local 3 back in 2004 for Elevator Technition and was 29 on a list and never got a call back after a year, I guess I should have benn related to one of the member. At this point in my life I am going back to school for Cybersecurity and I will probably never pay another Union due the rest of my life. Now thanks to the Millenials there is a shortage of skilled Union workers but personally the Baby Boomer Tech's were to lazy to teach they next generations and too picky on who they hired years ago. They reap what they sew!

[@crash2332]

i thought about joining a union shop but i didn't because you need to pay $100 pension a month? or a week i dont remember plus they require you to have health insurance so that was a turn off for me because i couldn't afford it. but i heard they have really good benefits.

[@sellison2192]

Why does everyone refer to the Union as a separate entity? If you are in the union then you are the union. If your not happy with something then get involved. Not happy with leadership then get your butt to classes so you can lead your brothers and sisters.

[@jewels696989]

awesome! happy for ya

[@billmonroe8826]

Unions use to be a good thing when they started. I have never seen where they do anything for the employees now days. Now they take your union dues and use it for political candidates that you don't support!

[@cablenowadays6586]

That’s how my dad was when he was younger. Now he’s older and works for GM and i just see the union as a bunch of pigs realistically. During the Union strike at his plant they banged in the windows of cars with children in the back seat as they were going to daycare. They put nails on the exits so salary workers couldn’t get to work. Somebody was actually ran over by a someone trying to take their kid to day care and passed away because they were walking on the highway. I just feel like almost all unions are just greedy and selfish and you don’t gain anything. Where a non-union base job allows you to capitalize on about every aspect of your pay, leave, insurance, ect.

[@junglejim5785]

100% spot on Bill.

[@Xander1Sheridan]

It really depends on the industry. Some unions are necessary because management is a bunch of morons. That is why the UPS unions are needed. Some of the trade unions are really awesome and really help people find jobs and learn more about their craft. Hell my aunt worked for a grocery store for a decade and recieved a $30,000 retirement benefit because of that union.

[@bwest-yq3uc]

Bad Companies and Bad Unions...you can find corruption in both. But the republican party and chamber of commerce wants to keep the Bad Companies and Kill the Unions. They do not want the average working person to have any voice or control over his working environment. It has been that away since Reagan election in the 80's.

[@Xander1Sheridan]

@@bwest-yq3uc that's just baloney. The democrats hate everyone and have been trying to make us all their slaves since the party started. The democrats taught the Nazi's everything they believed and the democrats still believe it.

[@RJ_Cormac]

Just a thought; that 2 weeks paid time off, was the "Union helping you". Without that Union, you wouldn't have gotten a paycheck for that pay cycle from them. 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ekcoupe5059]

You paid $400 a month in union dues wth?? What union was that and I’m hoping you were getting paid well , still hard to Believe you paid that much in dues . Union construction workers in Chicago average $45-$53 per hour depending on the trade and I only pay $150 every 3 months to my local in dues

[@FordBossMe]

Yeah remember is a new guy you have one year of dudes that you have to pay for it so your money being paid as a lot higher than the any year after

[@APDLuu]

Dude, are you Full Cend?

[@Justin-lp7bl]

It all depends on the contract and company not to mention which union you are in

[@allencolvin4320]

Unions are not for everyone

[@balor7]

The reason you were able to get better benefits is because unions exist.

[@james8226]

I live in a right to work for less state and I chose to work union. I never had an insurance copay and I cry all the way to the bank with the pension I wouldn't have had working rat.

[@thomasrenfrow609]

480 a month in dues, lol. C'mon. The auto workers union does cant be that high. How's your annuity? Does the non union job offer that? I also bet that your annual limits on medical or dental is higher than the non union benefits.

[@FordBossMe]

I'm not going to engage in conversations that people are doubting what I say so that's the story and that's it

[@TheBravo13x]

My dues are $89 each month. Not a whole lot but also not a little bit.