I was told when I started off in IT, "you don''t choose your path in IT it chooses you", so far that statement has been spot on. Training and broaden your skills, will open more doors of opportunity.
This was probably the most useful talk on IT career path that Ive heard in 10 years. I lost my job like two years ago and the disgusting experience of applying for jobs where ever description is saturated with buzz words and technology that the business barely uses was BRUTAL. Eventually, I landed a job where the hiring manager went "Wow Im impressed with everything youve been able to accomplish this far" and was actually picked up to do Project Management because of my broad experience range. Only requirement was that I pass the PMP. Now I have an entirely different track ahead of me just because an opportunity presented itself.
Thanks for this intellectual discussion. I think majority of people including myself have these problems. We all want to learn so many things at a time, forgetting that you are bound to forget if you don't apply the things you've learnt.
Excellent conversation! What resonated with me the most was the comment that Jeff Kish made at 13:05 A lot of companies shift everything to the cloud, unaware of the costs involved. And now, a good number of them are starting to move a lot of their Workloads back On-Prem. And great point made by Kelvin; On-Prem isn't going anywhere any time soon. Private Clouds are still a thing. IMHO, Hybrid is the sweet spot. Don't feel like you have to chase after the shiniest, newest Technology all the time, remember what happened to IPX 😅? I also feel like Automation isn't for everyone and the urgency for it isn't as great as many people make it seem. Don't feel like you're missing out, but do be flexible and adapt where it's necessary. Excellent points from each one of you on the panel.
Very good discussion. There are surprising parallels, too. When I began programming on my own, I made one big mistake: I set out to "learn language X" instead of "build project Y by learning language X." This really derailed my learning until I got some formal instruction. I see the same issue discussed here, the importance of having an application for the knowledge and skills. Cheers.
just like life, in order to learn it you just jump right in and move forward...... that's how I started in high tech 46 years ago (I was 15) and don't plan on stopping anytime soon......
Incredible conversation to listen to and all of the information couldn't be truer. I always find myself feeling like I'm left in the dust by friends or people I see on social media or UA-cam, but in reality, unless there's a business application at my current employer for whatever it is I'm envious about, there's no reason to have those feelings because I would just be learning something to learn it and not apply it.
This is a great conversation. I've worked in IT for only 4 years now, after switching from the educational system. We're a very small MSP, and I've noticed as well the FOMO runs full force. While I don't know everything, I've learned a ton from my field experience. This was an inspiring conversation! It's good to have a pragmatic approach, and I try to have that every day, but I still get caught up so easily in the "ooh shiny" parts of new tech at times haha
While i havent actually acquired a job in the field yet, ive studied for about 4 years (no job b/c health issues held me back) And when the middlel left guy at 10:30 says his buddy got a hold of him and asked "howd you become double CCI blabla". And he says "One day at a time" "everyday i studied a little bit and pushed myself forward." I'm reading Atomic Habits rn and thats exactly what they say in that book. Don't burn yourself out studying 8 hours a day. A 1% increase everday for a year means youll be e7x more knowledgeable or competent or just in-the-know about it. Plus the daily study and pushing yourself a little everyday keeps it fresh in your mind. A lot of stuff i studied has disappeared because i had no daily use for it. Anyway best of luck to everyone!
Stumbled over this video, it was very enlightening. I want to learn and grow but when i learn something i have no way or applying it and it gets discouraging.
I am with Knox. I would like to stick with working with physical hardware, etc. I would like to assist in designing network systems at data centers and large enterprises. I am wanting to get my CCIE Data Center (CCDE and CCIE Enterprise Infrastructure - maybe also tackle CCIE Wireless & Service Provider)
At 15:50 Knox mentions that "you don't want to use the cloud for virtual machines, you want to use it for platform." Can you explain what he meant by "platform?" Thanks in advance!
One important factor which I feel is not discussed is the number of opportunities and pay rate. Currently, as cloud and cyber security fields are still in the early stages compared to other fields the demand for talent is high and the pay rate is higher compared to traditional networking roles.
I feel like it’s a sprint for me since I’m starting so late I’ve been around computers since they began but I was more into gaming etc now my focus behind the curtain and it’s the biggest regret I wasn’t shown earlier where/how to get this information anyways the regret is the time how much can I take in the next five to ten years forty hour weekends alone will only make up so much plus during the week
Guys I have 2 years experience as a VMware admin. I have moved recently to Infra Design role, and i have been bombed with all these datacenter concepts and design and network concepts. Im having trouble getting to learn all that making decisions. What should do in terms of learning and preparing myself outside of work hours so i can excel at this role and learn quicker? I need some guidance. Thank you so much in advance
just gonna have to sink hours of study and testing like any other skill brother, theres no shortcuts to learning. You first have to be bad at something to be good at it later
@@GroovyKid94 if you look up job postings for the position you want you can see what responsibilities are to be done and usually include software names and technologies
On-prem networking is dead, do not let vendors, who sell you on-prem networking gear, tell you otherwise. If you don't learn cloud today, you will be left behind. Networking today has become "point and click" Ubiquiti gear.
I was told when I started off in IT, "you don''t choose your path in IT it chooses you", so far that statement has been spot on. Training and broaden your skills, will open more doors of opportunity.
True that hey. I have been fighting so hard to be out of testing still stuck even after so many certificates
Exactly
I'm in the military for IT Networking where this statements holds significantly more truth
I.m in networking, it feels like home, It clicks
@@erickonassis6310 hey
1st time ive EVER EVER EVER heard a clear & concise definition of what service provider is!! Thx
This is the 1st truthful conversation about networking that I have ever seen
This was probably the most useful talk on IT career path that Ive heard in 10 years. I lost my job like two years ago and the disgusting experience of applying for jobs where ever description is saturated with buzz words and technology that the business barely uses was BRUTAL. Eventually, I landed a job where the hiring manager went "Wow Im impressed with everything youve been able to accomplish this far" and was actually picked up to do Project Management because of my broad experience range. Only requirement was that I pass the PMP. Now I have an entirely different track ahead of me just because an opportunity presented itself.
That's awesome. I see myself in PM roles eventually, but that's 5 or 10 years away.
I need 60 mins of this weekly, greatly informative guys!!
Four individual perspectives and practical tips about working and training in the IT space.
Thank You all for Sharing!
Thanks for this intellectual discussion. I think majority of people including myself have these problems. We all want to learn so many things at a time, forgetting that you are bound to forget if you don't apply the things you've learnt.
That's correct...I faced these things on my job also. If you aren't applying or rehearsing, you surely forget.
Excellent conversation! What resonated with me the most was the comment that Jeff Kish made at 13:05 A lot of companies shift everything to the cloud, unaware of the costs involved. And now, a good number of them are starting to move a lot of their Workloads back On-Prem. And great point made by Kelvin; On-Prem isn't going anywhere any time soon. Private Clouds are still a thing. IMHO, Hybrid is the sweet spot. Don't feel like you have to chase after the shiniest, newest Technology all the time, remember what happened to IPX 😅? I also feel like Automation isn't for everyone and the urgency for it isn't as great as many people make it seem. Don't feel like you're missing out, but do be flexible and adapt where it's necessary. Excellent points from each one of you on the panel.
It’s gold for someone who didn’t even know which path is right for myself
Very good discussion. There are surprising parallels, too.
When I began programming on my own, I made one big mistake: I set out to "learn language X" instead of "build project Y by learning language X." This really derailed my learning until I got some formal instruction. I see the same issue discussed here, the importance of having an application for the knowledge and skills. Cheers.
this is pure gold guys, thank you! Please, many more of these discussions are welcomed!
Great point, I’ve been kicking myself for not knowing python when I don’t even need it for my current job. FOMO is real in IT.
Lol
just like life, in order to learn it you just jump right in and move forward...... that's how I started in high tech 46 years ago (I was 15) and don't plan on stopping anytime soon......
As someone who, at this point in my IT career, is taking a serious look at Networking, this episode has been exceptional.
I had misconceptions about networking's relevance but it is clearly exceedingly important.
Keith and Jeff are awesome helping me with my CCNA training, my 7 trail is up but loved every moment of it!
Incredible conversation to listen to and all of the information couldn't be truer. I always find myself feeling like I'm left in the dust by friends or people I see on social media or UA-cam, but in reality, unless there's a business application at my current employer for whatever it is I'm envious about, there's no reason to have those feelings because I would just be learning something to learn it and not apply it.
This is a great conversation. I've worked in IT for only 4 years now, after switching from the educational system. We're a very small MSP, and I've noticed as well the FOMO runs full force. While I don't know everything, I've learned a ton from my field experience. This was an inspiring conversation! It's good to have a pragmatic approach, and I try to have that every day, but I still get caught up so easily in the "ooh shiny" parts of new tech at times haha
I would do anything for a daily or weekly podcast with the CBTNugg crew. Keep it up y'all!
Excellent video and discussion, with people who know what they are talking about.
Need more of these conversations.
great convo guys! currently studying for my CCNA and this was very helpful to help think about a career!
Amazing discussion, definitely giving me confidence for my next cloud journey
Great conversation. Loved everyone’s take. You should do this more often, maybe longer form 20 mins was too fast and not enough
While i havent actually acquired a job in the field yet, ive studied for about 4 years (no job b/c health issues held me back)
And when the middlel left guy at 10:30 says his buddy got a hold of him and asked "howd you become double CCI blabla". And he says "One day at a time" "everyday i studied a little bit and pushed myself forward." I'm reading Atomic Habits rn and thats exactly what they say in that book. Don't burn yourself out studying 8 hours a day. A 1% increase everday for a year means youll be e7x more knowledgeable or competent or just in-the-know about it.
Plus the daily study and pushing yourself a little everyday keeps it fresh in your mind. A lot of stuff i studied has disappeared because i had no daily use for it. Anyway best of luck to everyone!
Great insights for Network Engineers Community, Thanks all
Omg that’s Keith Barker! Star ⭐️ struck
Very good convo. I can give my voice a rest now on the practicality of hybrid cloud solutions 😄
this is like a Fellowship of the ring,
After CCNA I knew I didn’t want to be a network engineer, great networking foundation to have though. I got my CISSP instead.
isn't that really hard how you do that can you help me
Stumbled over this video, it was very enlightening. I want to learn and grow but when i learn something i have no way or applying it and it gets discouraging.
thank you for uploading the video, i've been waiting for it
Thank you, gentlemen, for the informative content.
This is a great discussion. Thank you, lads.
I click on a Random Tech vid and see two guys I know by name Mr. Barker and Mr. Kish. It’s official, I’ve become a tech nerd fanboy.
We need more content like this!
Great conversation. Very interesting and informative. Please continue these.
Thanks Guys. I really needed to hear this.
Great podcast, thanks for sharing you ideas!
I am with Knox. I would like to stick with working with physical hardware, etc. I would like to assist in designing network systems at data centers and large enterprises. I am wanting to get my CCIE Data Center (CCDE and CCIE Enterprise Infrastructure - maybe also tackle CCIE Wireless & Service Provider)
Thanks for this! Very helpful 💪😎🙌
this was amazing please do more!
Studying for my ccna and I'm seeing that it's likely not enough by itself...
But it's an excellent start
At 15:50 Knox mentions that "you don't want to use the cloud for virtual machines, you want to use it for platform."
Can you explain what he meant by "platform?"
Thanks in advance!
Platform is actually a platform for software development and deployment on the cloud, so its mostly used by developers
Thanks Gents, interesting conversation
Great men. Thanks for this.
One important factor which I feel is not discussed is the number of opportunities and pay rate. Currently, as cloud and cyber security fields are still in the early stages compared to other fields the demand for talent is high and the pay rate is higher compared to traditional networking roles.
It's Good to see the Legend of CBT Nuggets 🙏🙏
Great cotent, would love to hear more.....maybe a CBT Podcast? :)
this is the best info ive heard
hoping we get more and more podcasts about networking.
I want to move from Net engineer to Cloud Engineer, am i going to do something stupid??? Please help 🙏 😊
Long time since I have seen Knox
Great video
I feel like it’s a sprint for me since I’m starting so late I’ve been around computers since they began but I was more into gaming etc now my focus behind the curtain and it’s the biggest regret I wasn’t shown earlier where/how to get this information anyways the regret is the time how much can I take in the next five to ten years forty hour weekends alone will only make up so much plus during the week
I have 2 year's of experience in IT executive...so iam looking to do a course, can someone guide me, which course will be better CCNA or AWS ?
CCNA first will be helpful then AWS/ Azure. The knowledge can carry over to any realm of IT.
Guys I have 2 years experience as a VMware admin. I have moved recently to Infra Design role, and i have been bombed with all these datacenter concepts and design and network concepts. Im having trouble getting to learn all that making decisions. What should do in terms of learning and preparing myself outside of work hours so i can excel at this role and learn quicker? I need some guidance. Thank you so much in advance
just gonna have to sink hours of study and testing like any other skill brother, theres no shortcuts to learning. You first have to be bad at something to be good at it later
@@_ZERO thanks man, i dont mind that, but I dont know what i need to study for exactly.
@@GroovyKid94 if you look up job postings for the position you want you can see what responsibilities are to be done and usually include software names and technologies
nice show
Am I late to the party? I'm 50 and just got into learning Networking. (❁´◡`❁)
Does anyone really need to have an engineering degree to work in data center?
I think i lost a few brain cells, i mean, i think i gained a few brain cells or at least one new brain cell after watching this
👍🏾👍🏾
Hello
Why can't people talk without constantly saying you know?
On-prem networking is dead, do not let vendors, who sell you on-prem networking gear, tell you otherwise. If you don't learn cloud today, you will be left behind. Networking today has become "point and click" Ubiquiti gear.
Agreed. Networking is becoming an underlay technology that is taken for granted for the Cloud operations
lol data center is the cloud so wtf are they talking about ?!