Flush Five for sure!! It’s the culmination of a full run of hard work manipulating your deck, making the correct decisions etc to finally arrive at the point where you are consistently playing Flush Fives. Feels like the most rewarding to play. Plus it’s one of the options to get mega high scores. Playing a socked and busked glass flush five feels great to do
Pair! you called it worse than high cards but I found it easier to do pair builds often because you can pivot towards a pair build earlier than High Card and there are many early jokers that work specifically with pair builds while HC doesn't have that.
I enjoy making Straight Flushes work. I enjoy trying to get it as far as I can in high stakes with it and feels more rewarding to pull off high scores than Steel King go brrrrrr (though that is pretty fun too). Tbh a lot of the fun once you get the foundationals down is adapting to what the game throws at you. Except 3oak...
I was a Jupiter girly for a long time. Maybe the first 80 hours of game play. But now flush 5 is most fun to me. Pluto is best but it’s just not as common for me. Need more luck and skill
I just don't get how you get a build for high card running. Like early game, how do you get enough points to pass the blinds while building up to big high card runs?
In defense of flushes (and why I think they are at least A tier): 1. They are the easiest play to get through ante 1 with minimal hands played to boost econ before you get an econ joker. At least easier than straights and full houses. 2. They thrive in mid-game when you only have common jokers 3. If you can get DNA and use it on a red sealed card, you can very quickly make very powerful flushes. Getting a few uncommon jokers will usually make 5 played cards score higher score than leaving more spots for steel 4. It backs up the Flush 5. Even with an insane flush 5 build, you will still occasionally have a hand where that fifth identical card just didn't come in time
It just falls in this weird spot where I rather just use boats or 4 of a kinds that scale better and can be more hyper specific for synergies with better mult and xmult jokers
I've found that for Plasma deck escpecially Two Pair is a real solid combination for converting lots of chips. Which is really all you need to win since Commons & Stone Cards will scale your chips really fast. It definitely won't get you through Endless, but you can make it to Ante 8 without too much issue.
still somewhat new to the game, great point about high cards and being able to keep all of your hold cards in your hand easily. I've tried high card builds a few times, but now thinking about them in terms of steel cards, blue seals, etc I think will really take me to the next level. thanks!
i think that flush house might be one of the strongest early game hands ever, now hear me out. you don’t have to build your deck around this, but let’s say you get any of the four tarot cards that convert 3 cards to one suit. you then draw a full house, which probably already has 2 cards of that suit, use the tarot, boom flush house to win an early round in 1 hand and get out with max money. not the most reliable or easy thing in the world but damn it gets you out of some tough spots on high antes
Flush houses are also super fun, and if you're shaping your deck around two cards, you're almost always going to have atleast two of one of them, so I think you oversold the difficulty (once you've built your deck) Solid list overall. I've been underwhelmed on full houses and really need to try our straights more
I think the hands are very well balanced all things considered, each facing their own distinct challenges and advantages. In ranking them people are mainly showing their playstyle biases. Of course High Card and Flush Five are the best in high score/endless runs since those are the only directions you can go to min-max, but in terms of just finding what you need to win a run, there's strength in the versatility and ease of use that comes from the mid-value hands.
2-pair is currently my go-to hand to play when I just go for winning a run instead of high scores. It's good at nothing but also terrible at nothing. It's not hard to get, unlike big hands that eats discards and/or hands. It's not a 5-card hand, so it does leave some room for smart discard for held benefits. It's also not 1 or 2 card hands meaning jokers that relies on scoring is also not crippled. It's master of none but jack of all trades and is not hard to pivot from which makes it really "flexible" in matter of run strategy. That and squarepants being absolutely bonkers.
@@ZainoTVLive I’m fairly new to it, in that I still have some jokers to unlock and I’m working my way through unlocking decks and stakes. So I’m focusing on completing runs and not fussed about endless and high scores - but I think this is hurting me my ability to deck build with purpose. So I’m using this video as a crutch to skill myself up and change my hand tactics 💪🏻
@@OldManYellsAtSpursTry taking a few runs into endless. You'll be able to unlock some jokers the more shops you're allowed to see. You might discover more combos and synergies that you like!
I played a lot of economy decks like green and yellow starting out, and I found it helped a lot with achieving gold stake in flushes. Early 1 shotting blinds with flush bonuses was more than enough to make up for gold cards not being in hand
Some comments : - Two Pair : There is one specific situation where I go for a Two Pair build - and that's trying to win with the Plasma deck by focusing on chips only. +20 per planet plus getting to play 4 cards lets you get a lot of chips for a fairly easy to hit hand. That's how I completed the win in 12 rounds unlock (without Stuntman !), and when I'll come to try gold stake plasma I will probably try it again. But outside of plasma I agree with C tier, maybe even D. - Three of a kind : The synergy with Half-joker is nice, and I find it to be a nice transition towards 4 of a kind/flush five build while you don't have enoughcards of the same rank yet. Plus having to keep only three cards to play lets you mine for the gold cards and seals more easily with a standard 8-card hand. I'd maybe bump it to B even though it's not for long-term. - 4 of a kind/5 of a kind : To me 5 of a kind is just a worse version of 4 of a kind. The difference between +30 and +35 chips is just not enough to justify having one more card in hand (which you can again discard to get your gold cards and blue seals to scale). Plus you can get Mars right from the beginning which lets you scale it more. And sure, when you start going endless and duplicating a polychrome glass card to go for the highest score playing 5 cards can be better but then you're playing flush five (even though it is vulnerable to a suit-cancelling boss blind). For these reasons I'd bump 4 of a kind to A and 5 of a kind to C - my best ever endless run was actually with a 4 of a kind.
Completionst ++ high stakes disclaimer: Pretty solid list overall. Personally, I would bump Neptune up to C, I typically will use it as a transition late game from straight builds. I'd bump Venus down to D. I have never had a 3ofK run pop off that wouldn't have been better going for a different hand...and that is with over 500 hours. 2 pairs I would go B. There just way to many good scaling jokers/reliable jokers that support the play style for me to put it at C. Mercury I'd probably put at B. Live patch I agree with A for gold but changes to Orange/Gold allow other hands to shine a bit more since you aren't restricted by packs and hand size anymore. I rate it about the same as 2 pair trading better overall jokers for more tarot shennigans/high +mult scaling. Straights...I agree with BU. It is undeniably the best scaling planet for effort now. Easy S for me right now. Definitely a build that requires more thought and deck crafting though. Edit: ...realized dont have an A...I'd probably drop flush five down just requires a lot of set up/prereqs and comes online typically too late for high stakes.
While I don't disagree with your ranking i don't really like how High Card builds are so good at higher stakes. It's absolutely the least fun build to play for me. Yes it works. But the gameplay itself is the most boring to me. Fishing for a full house and later flush fives is way more fun. To me finding a joker that works with a specific hand type, or combination of cards is what attracted me to Balatro. But a lot of that goes out of the window when switching to High card builds.
I just downloaded this when it was included with Apple Arcade. I can’t even out into words how amazing this game is. I’ve played so many games and nearly enemy game has required a different strategy based on the deck and jokers. This game is amazing
Flush House's biggest pro is that you can unlock it with a single Tarot card and potentially start planeting it up as early as the first ante. If you're playing Painted Deck or Abandoned Deck then it's even better, in my opinion. _Especially_ with painted deck.
I think flushes are higher tier, but I don't play endless that much I imagine they fall off pretty hard at antes beyond 8. And you bring up some good points, there are boss blinds that just flat out kill flush runs :D Biggest pro is probably that it's a pretty easy/beginner friendly deck to build with all the tarot cards and stuff manipulating your suits you can pretty reliably turn your deck into mostly a single suit. I imagine for endless, as you said I suppose you really want the flush fives, it has all the benefits and synergies of flushes combined with all the synergies for pairs, 3 of a kind, 4 of a kind AND it has higher chips and mults to start with too.
I just started and literally the only two times I've been able to win a run had been with early pants jokers and building towards 2 pairs & full houses haha. This tier list broke me
I rmb when full house was the dominant build in the demo version lol (forgot which exact one but it's the one with verdant leaf as the "extra" final boss).
I love playing straights but one bad round of rng without Shoetcut and you lose. Had a level 29 straight build on gold stakes abandoned deck with like 25 cards and the very last round in ante 8 i couldnt hit a straight so i lost. You really need shortcut or four fingers to make straights viable.
I'm at the point where I've won some regular runs and in my world two pair and flush seemed good. So I glad I watched this. I tried not to dive in too fast. So thankful to find a game so perfect for my job haha 3 of a card seems like it'd always be weak because you can only get it once per suit but it leaves something behind. It should always be weaker in a game like this.
I don't think there's really a reason to play full house over 3oak. It's better with pants and flower pot, and it scales 1.2x quicker in chips? 3oak is easier to draw, leaves more cards in hand and basically activates all the same jokers. I'm curious to hear if I'm forgetting anything.
When I build into full house I try and get my deck to 2 of the same cards at a high number so I can just get 3 of either of them. I do think 3oak is better tho lol. Edit: I actually beat jokerless with full houses second try a couple days agi
I feel like drawing 3oak is difficult enough to where drawing an extra pair for full house isn't a big ask, but I haven't played full house at higher stakes (go straights!). 3oak does have an additional powerful synergy with blackboard
@@leiz8048 You can with splash, since you will have nonscoring cards scoring. Flower pot kind of needs splash or smeared or wildcards to be a functional joker imo.
I believe straight/royal flushes should be b tier. Yes they are hard to play around, but they have a few advantages you didn't point out yet. Similar to Flush Houses (even if not quite as strong) can be used as an emergency earlier in the game especially with one of the suit tarot cards or strenght (you dont even make a new planet card available in the shop). Another advantage is that you can pick them up if you play straight or flush depending on what other planet cards are in the shop. It happened to me quite a few times that i accidentally played one, when i went for straights or flushes (it,s great scaling makes this possible even in the later antes). And what i find to be it's best advantage is its suit. Equal to flushes and flush fives does the straight flush trigger suit effects like bloodstone. It does come with higher deck managing, but even in this aspect it does better than flush fives and flush houses as you have 4-7 (four fingers) cards instead of 1-2. If you're building straigh's why not just pick up 2-3 neptunes and 2-3 sun cards for it to be available as an option. But i do agree it to be hard to specifically play around a straight flush build (I take it as a available option which just makes this hand more versatile for me).
Problem is straight flush does not helps you out early game. It’s not a hand you can consistently get below ante 5/6. And by that point you already have scaled something else making it hard to pick up straight flush. It’s hard to get going and the payouts isn’t worth t
What the general strategy for thinning the deck in a straight build? I want to play straights but chasing that 1 in 4 chance to get the single or even the two cards I need in the early game feels too risky. If I dont invest in the straight build eary, it falls off which is a conumdrum.
I would say building towards 5 specific cards. In a normal deck I tend to go for A-10, deleting 2s upward. Abandoned I squish towards the middle straight of 8-7-6-5-4 by deleting A/10, then 9/2, 3s
Unless you have the joker that allows 4 card straights or a gap, how do you make straights viable? I don't see how you can put all those hands together with the number of discards
Three of a kind is better than you think. +2 mult for a 3 card hand is pretty good and easy to get reliably. A few planet levels in that and an x mult and you have a solid run going. Since you are only aiming for a 3 card hand, it even works somewhat well with Stuntman. The only hand I can never seem to get to work is Full house(which I agree is bottom tier).
I just don't understand how to build for high card builds honestly. It seems like every time i try i lose in early or mid game before things really get going
So what’s the point of playing the game unless you’re going for high card, tier lists kind of ruin games for me as the other hands now seem useless after watching this, and you obviously know what you’re talking about.
Straights are actually extraordinary viable in high stakes post patch. I also think 4oK is as well. I still think below Orange stake high card is the best.
Imo planet X is just too easy to win with while flush five is nice you pretty much need a death often or some sort of copier while planet X can be achieved much easier and is normally enough to win on its own and the cards below can easily be strengthed up more consistently. You also don't have to worry much about all the cards getting cancelled out by a random suit boss.
fairly new player, only had the game 2 days and only one about 10 times. Clearly I am playing the game entirely wrong as I have only ever won with flush and full house builds depending on what jokers I got. I really have to watch some pluto runs I guess. I don't get right now why steel is that great as steal cards trigger that mult so early they seem to end up multiplying almost nothing. I mean the grains of rice on a checkboard thing is true that the multiples will get out of hand fast even starting with nothing but I just have not seen the opportunities to get that many steel cards in a deck yet.
The math ignored everything but the probability of drawing cards and the base scoring of the hands. Jokers, tarots, boss blinds, and everything are everything in the grand scheme of things.
@@ZainoTVLive Flushes are still the most consistent build archetype, especially for jokers that activate on cards, or for manipulating. There are 9 tarots, and 2 spectral cards that manipulate in favor of flushes, as well as the fact that high card only gives +1 mult with Pluto, Meanwhile Flushes' Jupiter gives +2 mult. Usually, flush builds are the most effective in gold stake runs, unless you get something else early game.
Which poker hand build is your favorite to play???
Flush Five for sure!! It’s the culmination of a full run of hard work manipulating your deck, making the correct decisions etc to finally arrive at the point where you are consistently playing Flush Fives. Feels like the most rewarding to play. Plus it’s one of the options to get mega high scores. Playing a socked and busked glass flush five feels great to do
Pair! you called it worse than high cards but I found it easier to do pair builds often because you can pivot towards a pair build earlier than High Card and there are many early jokers that work specifically with pair builds while HC doesn't have that.
I enjoy making Straight Flushes work. I enjoy trying to get it as far as I can in high stakes with it and feels more rewarding to pull off high scores than Steel King go brrrrrr (though that is pretty fun too). Tbh a lot of the fun once you get the foundationals down is adapting to what the game throws at you. Except 3oak...
If I can get that pair of pants joker, I really enjoy doing 2 pair hands.
I was a Jupiter girly for a long time. Maybe the first 80 hours of game play. But now flush 5 is most fun to me. Pluto is best but it’s just not as common for me. Need more luck and skill
Ok… you’ve changed my opinion of High Card. Never thought about the potential you get from having an almost-full hand of steel and gold cards. Cheers!
Add a mime and watch the score and dopamine go to the moon!
I just don't get how you get a build for high card running. Like early game, how do you get enough points to pass the blinds while building up to big high card runs?
In defense of flushes (and why I think they are at least A tier):
1. They are the easiest play to get through ante 1 with minimal hands played to boost econ before you get an econ joker. At least easier than straights and full houses.
2. They thrive in mid-game when you only have common jokers
3. If you can get DNA and use it on a red sealed card, you can very quickly make very powerful flushes. Getting a few uncommon jokers will usually make 5 played cards score higher score than leaving more spots for steel
4. It backs up the Flush 5. Even with an insane flush 5 build, you will still occasionally have a hand where that fifth identical card just didn't come in time
Agreed. C for flush is completely insane
“Are the straights okay??”
+2
@@ImBoutaShartFR lmao no the straights fell off big time
People who are immune to comedy aren't intelligent enough to have their opinions heeded.
There's a mod that makes them called Gays. I need to get it!!
@@konsth191weirdo :/
This is mostly accurate but I think that square joker and pants immediately make two pair a solid b tier pick
Yeah, I think I would split the difference and say C going back to this, this morning.
It just falls in this weird spot where I rather just use boats or 4 of a kinds that scale better and can be more hyper specific for synergies with better mult and xmult jokers
Two pair really needs a base mult of 3 for the first ante tho.
@@havesomefudge9752 Boats?
I've found that for Plasma deck escpecially Two Pair is a real solid combination for converting lots of chips. Which is really all you need to win since Commons & Stone Cards will scale your chips really fast. It definitely won't get you through Endless, but you can make it to Ante 8 without too much issue.
Straight Flushes to me are just the hands that accidentally ruin my straight runs 🤬
still somewhat new to the game, great point about high cards and being able to keep all of your hold cards in your hand easily. I've tried high card builds a few times, but now thinking about them in terms of steel cards, blue seals, etc I think will really take me to the next level. thanks!
i think that flush house might be one of the strongest early game hands ever, now hear me out. you don’t have to build your deck around this, but let’s say you get any of the four tarot cards that convert 3 cards to one suit. you then draw a full house, which probably already has 2 cards of that suit, use the tarot, boom flush house to win an early round in 1 hand and get out with max money. not the most reliable or easy thing in the world but damn it gets you out of some tough spots on high antes
Ah very good point that I failed to speak about. I think this makes a lot of sense. It's saved me on more than one occasion.
Flush houses are also super fun, and if you're shaping your deck around two cards, you're almost always going to have atleast two of one of them, so I think you oversold the difficulty (once you've built your deck)
Solid list overall. I've been underwhelmed on full houses and really need to try our straights more
I think the hands are very well balanced all things considered, each facing their own distinct challenges and advantages.
In ranking them people are mainly showing their playstyle biases.
Of course High Card and Flush Five are the best in high score/endless runs since those are the only directions you can go to min-max, but in terms of just finding what you need to win a run, there's strength in the versatility and ease of use that comes from the mid-value hands.
you should display the jokers you're reffering to in screen, it helps a lot with non-native english speakers
2-pair is currently my go-to hand to play when I just go for winning a run instead of high scores. It's good at nothing but also terrible at nothing. It's not hard to get, unlike big hands that eats discards and/or hands. It's not a 5-card hand, so it does leave some room for smart discard for held benefits. It's also not 1 or 2 card hands meaning jokers that relies on scoring is also not crippled. It's master of none but jack of all trades and is not hard to pivot from which makes it really "flexible" in matter of run strategy. That and squarepants being absolutely bonkers.
I look forward to watching this. I’m obsessed with full house / two pairs. I need to branch out, get more agile.
This was me early on in the game 100%
@@ZainoTVLive I’m fairly new to it, in that I still have some jokers to unlock and I’m working my way through unlocking decks and stakes. So I’m focusing on completing runs and not fussed about endless and high scores - but I think this is hurting me my ability to deck build with purpose. So I’m using this video as a crutch to skill myself up and change my hand tactics 💪🏻
@@OldManYellsAtSpursTry taking a few runs into endless. You'll be able to unlock some jokers the more shops you're allowed to see. You might discover more combos and synergies that you like!
I basically only play straights ever since the patch dropped. Full houses, are always disappointing, I'm with Balatro University on this one
He gets away with it, so hard to argue
I played a lot of economy decks like green and yellow starting out, and I found it helped a lot with achieving gold stake in flushes. Early 1 shotting blinds with flush bonuses was more than enough to make up for gold cards not being in hand
Some comments :
- Two Pair : There is one specific situation where I go for a Two Pair build - and that's trying to win with the Plasma deck by focusing on chips only. +20 per planet plus getting to play 4 cards lets you get a lot of chips for a fairly easy to hit hand. That's how I completed the win in 12 rounds unlock (without Stuntman !), and when I'll come to try gold stake plasma I will probably try it again. But outside of plasma I agree with C tier, maybe even D.
- Three of a kind : The synergy with Half-joker is nice, and I find it to be a nice transition towards 4 of a kind/flush five build while you don't have enoughcards of the same rank yet. Plus having to keep only three cards to play lets you mine for the gold cards and seals more easily with a standard 8-card hand. I'd maybe bump it to B even though it's not for long-term.
- 4 of a kind/5 of a kind : To me 5 of a kind is just a worse version of 4 of a kind. The difference between +30 and +35 chips is just not enough to justify having one more card in hand (which you can again discard to get your gold cards and blue seals to scale). Plus you can get Mars right from the beginning which lets you scale it more. And sure, when you start going endless and duplicating a polychrome glass card to go for the highest score playing 5 cards can be better but then you're playing flush five (even though it is vulnerable to a suit-cancelling boss blind). For these reasons I'd bump 4 of a kind to A and 5 of a kind to C - my best ever endless run was actually with a 4 of a kind.
Completionst ++ high stakes disclaimer:
Pretty solid list overall. Personally, I would bump Neptune up to C, I typically will use it as a transition late game from straight builds.
I'd bump Venus down to D. I have never had a 3ofK run pop off that wouldn't have been better going for a different hand...and that is with over 500 hours.
2 pairs I would go B. There just way to many good scaling jokers/reliable jokers that support the play style for me to put it at C.
Mercury I'd probably put at B. Live patch I agree with A for gold but changes to Orange/Gold allow other hands to shine a bit more since you aren't restricted by packs and hand size anymore. I rate it about the same as 2 pair trading better overall jokers for more tarot shennigans/high +mult scaling.
Straights...I agree with BU. It is undeniably the best scaling planet for effort now. Easy S for me right now. Definitely a build that requires more thought and deck crafting though.
Edit: ...realized dont have an A...I'd probably drop flush five down just requires a lot of set up/prereqs and comes online typically too late for high stakes.
While I don't disagree with your ranking i don't really like how High Card builds are so good at higher stakes. It's absolutely the least fun build to play for me. Yes it works. But the gameplay itself is the most boring to me. Fishing for a full house and later flush fives is way more fun. To me finding a joker that works with a specific hand type, or combination of cards is what attracted me to Balatro. But a lot of that goes out of the window when switching to High card builds.
I just downloaded this when it was included with Apple Arcade. I can’t even out into words how amazing this game is. I’ve played so many games and nearly enemy game has required a different strategy based on the deck and jokers. This game is amazing
Flush House's biggest pro is that you can unlock it with a single Tarot card and potentially start planeting it up as early as the first ante.
If you're playing Painted Deck or Abandoned Deck then it's even better, in my opinion. _Especially_ with painted deck.
subscribed! I've been getting really into Balatro content recently, and this channel makes good stuff.
Thank you!
I think flushes are higher tier, but I don't play endless that much I imagine they fall off pretty hard at antes beyond 8. And you bring up some good points, there are boss blinds that just flat out kill flush runs :D
Biggest pro is probably that it's a pretty easy/beginner friendly deck to build with all the tarot cards and stuff manipulating your suits you can pretty reliably turn your deck into mostly a single suit.
I imagine for endless, as you said I suppose you really want the flush fives, it has all the benefits and synergies of flushes combined with all the synergies for pairs, 3 of a kind, 4 of a kind AND it has higher chips and mults to start with too.
Crazy how flushes and pairs scale the same for chips.
If pairs allow you to hold two more steels then you're already better off doing that.
Yeah exactly, flushes have the benefit of the joker synergies, but it's just too inefficient imo.
I just started and literally the only two times I've been able to win a run had been with early pants jokers and building towards 2 pairs & full houses haha. This tier list broke me
I rmb when full house was the dominant build in the demo version lol (forgot which exact one but it's the one with verdant leaf as the "extra" final boss).
Yeah, definitely influenced my early gameplay
I mostly do pairs, flushes, full houses or two pairs depending on my build
I love playing straights but one bad round of rng without Shoetcut and you lose. Had a level 29 straight build on gold stakes abandoned deck with like 25 cards and the very last round in ante 8 i couldnt hit a straight so i lost. You really need shortcut or four fingers to make straights viable.
I'm at the point where I've won some regular runs and in my world two pair and flush seemed good. So I glad I watched this. I tried not to dive in too fast. So thankful to find a game so perfect for my job haha
3 of a card seems like it'd always be weak because you can only get it once per suit but it leaves something behind. It should always be weaker in a game like this.
Square joker also has good synergy with two pair, but other than that and pants, I still agree with putting two pair in C
I don't think there's really a reason to play full house over 3oak. It's better with pants and flower pot, and it scales 1.2x quicker in chips? 3oak is easier to draw, leaves more cards in hand and basically activates all the same jokers.
I'm curious to hear if I'm forgetting anything.
No, you're pretty spot on imo. The biggest thing is ease of drawing.
When I build into full house I try and get my deck to 2 of the same cards at a high number so I can just get 3 of either of them. I do think 3oak is better tho lol.
Edit: I actually beat jokerless with full houses second try a couple days agi
i dont think you can trigger flower pot with 3oak
I feel like drawing 3oak is difficult enough to where drawing an extra pair for full house isn't a big ask, but I haven't played full house at higher stakes (go straights!). 3oak does have an additional powerful synergy with blackboard
@@leiz8048 You can with splash, since you will have nonscoring cards scoring. Flower pot kind of needs splash or smeared or wildcards to be a functional joker imo.
I believe straight/royal flushes should be b tier. Yes they are hard to play around, but they have a few advantages you didn't point out yet. Similar to Flush Houses (even if not quite as strong) can be used as an emergency earlier in the game especially with one of the suit tarot cards or strenght (you dont even make a new planet card available in the shop). Another advantage is that you can pick them up if you play straight or flush depending on what other planet cards are in the shop. It happened to me quite a few times that i accidentally played one, when i went for straights or flushes (it,s great scaling makes this possible even in the later antes). And what i find to be it's best advantage is its suit. Equal to flushes and flush fives does the straight flush trigger suit effects like bloodstone. It does come with higher deck managing, but even in this aspect it does better than flush fives and flush houses as you have 4-7 (four fingers) cards instead of 1-2. If you're building straigh's why not just pick up 2-3 neptunes and 2-3 sun cards for it to be available as an option. But i do agree it to be hard to specifically play around a straight flush build (I take it as a available option which just makes this hand more versatile for me).
Problem is straight flush does not helps you out early game. It’s not a hand you can consistently get below ante 5/6. And by that point you already have scaled something else making it hard to pick up straight flush. It’s hard to get going and the payouts isn’t worth t
What the general strategy for thinning the deck in a straight build? I want to play straights but chasing that 1 in 4 chance to get the single or even the two cards I need in the early game feels too risky. If I dont invest in the straight build eary, it falls off which is a conumdrum.
I would say building towards 5 specific cards. In a normal deck I tend to go for A-10, deleting 2s upward.
Abandoned I squish towards the middle straight of 8-7-6-5-4 by deleting A/10, then 9/2, 3s
I've seen the World wrong.
Before this video i mostly go for Full-Houses.
I've should learn how to reliably Do 5OTK/Flush Five or Straights.
3 of a kind works with half joker and that’s not nothing
Unless you have the joker that allows 4 card straights or a gap, how do you make straights viable? I don't see how you can put all those hands together with the number of discards
It's not super easy, but it's about being strategic with discards. I believe BALATRO University has a video on it!
I won many runs on Gold Stack with Tow Pair, so I absolutely disagree with your list ;-)
Yep. Two pair is the most consistent hand for gold stake. Guy probably a green stake maxxer
i love your content. could you boost the audio volume a bit in your videos?
Yes I can
Me before watching video: “who the f will play with high card”
Me after: 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
straights with runner early i dont think ive lost
Are there any mods that you recommend? I’ve been wanting to start playing with mods but I don’t have the slightest idea on where to start
The Jelly Mod is a good starting point I think! I'll have to create a list, though!
bear in mind he's talking about the hands, not the planet cards
Three of a kind is better than you think. +2 mult for a 3 card hand is pretty good and easy to get reliably. A few planet levels in that and an x mult and you have a solid run going. Since you are only aiming for a 3 card hand, it even works somewhat well with Stuntman.
The only hand I can never seem to get to work is Full house(which I agree is bottom tier).
I just don't understand how to build for high card builds honestly. It seems like every time i try i lose in early or mid game before things really get going
You do have to play other hands early as you build to a high card build. I have a video on the channel about how to play high card builds :)
@@ZainoTVLive oh cool, I'll check it out then. Thanks for the help :)
flush deserved better
I think two pair should be C and 3oak should be D
So what’s the point of playing the game unless you’re going for high card, tier lists kind of ruin games for me as the other hands now seem useless after watching this, and you obviously know what you’re talking about.
Straights are actually extraordinary viable in high stakes post patch. I also think 4oK is as well. I still think below Orange stake high card is the best.
Imo planet X is just too easy to win with while flush five is nice you pretty much need a death often or some sort of copier while planet X can be achieved much easier and is normally enough to win on its own and the cards below can easily be strengthed up more consistently. You also don't have to worry much about all the cards getting cancelled out by a random suit boss.
That last point about boss blinds is a really good point for just winning a run.
Flush house enjoyers need to be studied in a lab
I will not take this full house slander
fairly new player, only had the game 2 days and only one about 10 times. Clearly I am playing the game entirely wrong as I have only ever won with flush and full house builds depending on what jokers I got. I really have to watch some pluto runs I guess. I don't get right now why steel is that great as steal cards trigger that mult so early they seem to end up multiplying almost nothing. I mean the grains of rice on a checkboard thing is true that the multiples will get out of hand fast even starting with nothing but I just have not seen the opportunities to get that many steel cards in a deck yet.
ua-cam.com/video/ZC0QyPOSMFc/v-deo.htmlsi=8EbnxzFwDb40dkf4&t=318 - this video should help with the order of operations.
So everything I thought I knew about the game is wrong lool
Not necessarily, I could just be stinky
D for neptune Sadge
It's still a fun build, and you can make it work. It's just hard haha
Flushes are mathematically proven to be the best hand in this game, so them not being #1 makes no sense.
The math ignored everything but the probability of drawing cards and the base scoring of the hands. Jokers, tarots, boss blinds, and everything are everything in the grand scheme of things.
mathematically, or statistically, sure, but when it comes to actually playing, very different
For drawing, yes; however there are more things to this such as jokers, enhancements, synergies, deck manipulation, and high scores, imo.
bruh are you stupid
@@ZainoTVLive Flushes are still the most consistent build archetype, especially for jokers that activate on cards, or for manipulating. There are 9 tarots, and 2 spectral cards that manipulate in favor of flushes, as well as the fact that high card only gives +1 mult with Pluto, Meanwhile Flushes' Jupiter gives +2 mult.
Usually, flush builds are the most effective in gold stake runs, unless you get something else early game.