00:00 nick as you asked for feedback: yes scripted videos will almost always be better, except in this one you got improvisation right on the timing to release this kinda minor release review as soon as possible. Quickness got you in the front from another linux youtubers in this one!
15:28 I am one of those people lol. I don't care if the desktop is made by a company or a community project, I'm excited for COSMIC because it looks like a great middle ground between GNOME and KDE
For me the dilemma is this: Do I keep my perfected KDE customized UI, automation, and behavior vs Do I go for the tiling experience and good middle ground between GNOME and KDE that I know will be great for me
I personally use hyprland, but with all the apps from kde (and i can fallback to kde) I would switch to kde permanently, if they ever implemented autotiling And i do not use cosmic, because i just love too much fedora and their stable with uptodate packages.
I saw the hexadecimal numbers on the "binary file" icon and immediately thought "What would that represent if interpreted as text?". So I typed them into my hex editor and got back "PopIcons Ian".
The compact mode is nice, but there's a lot of small things that hurt my eyes in the UI. There's a list of things that i would like to see them change: Too much rounded list: (These are maybe fix with the rounded style setting?) - In the Folder App, the ultra rounded menu corner is too round. - The main bottom menu corners are ultra rounded too. - The GTK application radius is more rounded than the border, so we see a little gap in the corners I would love to see these corner as round as the other things. Missing padding: - The SearchBar of the Folder App touch the top border of the window, It miss some space there or the search bar is too big. - The when a file is selected/highlight in a list of files, it touch to the top line and it touch the right scrollbar. A little margin would give something better looking here. - In the Folder App, when you click on "File", the menu list have no margin/padding. Like the hightlight toutch the edge of the list window and the edge of the next element. (And it is different from the left Folder App menu) - The main bottom menu icon are almost overlaping the edge. (Lower radius would help, but a little padding to the top and left/right would help) Well this is an Alpha, so this is a good moment to share comments like this to hope seeing that ajusted right? :P That being said, they seems to works pretty fast, and that's nice to see!
It's hard to believe. But note that at the time of writing it is really stable and, after setting some options through configuration files, is not bad as a daily driver. The experience is half way between a standard DE and a tiling WM i would say. Already much better than the latter
Really hope Cosmic is amazing and releases soon, personally PopOs and ElementaryOs have the most enjoyable Desktops, unfortunately ElementaryOs is not updated frequently enough and PopOs is stuck at 22.04 till Cosmic is completed andas a former Mac user im not a fan of KDE so I'm forced to use Ubuntu while i wait cos stock whilst stick gnome is slightly better than kde for me, its still not ideal
@@TheLinuxEXP I'm just getting started with Linux and plan to switch over completely very soon. I just want a desktop that I can see as well as I see my Windows one. So, I keep tinkering with "try it" on several Ubuntu releases, and have Linux Mint loaded on a machine for the time being. I am not really liking it much. My eyes are old.
@@MdMozammelHossain Oh dear I've had a bad experience with Manjaro. Repeadedly updates messed up my system. Kubuntu and Fedora KDE are more user friendly KDE distros.
@@MdMozammelHossain I am burning it to a thumb-drive right this minute. When I get home this evening after my piano lesson, I will take it for a spin. Thank you!
I've been daily driving the alpha 1 on fedora for about a week now, I can say it's a pretty solid for an alpha. General apps work, some hurdles when it comes to gaming and some alpha bugs here and there, but it is working surprisingly well. And I'm also seeing gaming performance increase compared to KDE. Much better frametimes in games and even FPS increase. And with the TKG kernel I was seeing up to 20 fps more in cyberpunk on my hardware, compared to KDE(and KDE is much better than Gnome in this regard as well).
lazytanuki has been working on adding animations to the iced GUI library that our toolkit is based on, so there will eventually be very fluid animations.
@@kamathln It was mostly about linux not being able to figure out what every other operating system figured out long ago. You can personalize all of them.
@@itzhexen0 Did you accidentally say stuff upside down? I always felt other OSes are not as configurable and personalizable as GNU/Linux . Been using it since 20 years.
With GNU/Linux, you don"t have to stick with the desktop provided by the distribution of your choice. I personally like and use KDE. But in today's time I find more and more apps are on the browser anyway. Only heavy apps like video editors, AAA games, video editors, and the like still remain outside! The transparency (of the development) of the OS and the browser are more important today than ever before
GNOME doesn't have that much padding. It's GNOME 2 that had too little padding and now they adjusted. There are some exceptions where they go over the board, but GNOME is overall pretty good visuals.
Im very much looking forward to cosmic. Since theyre customer facing, hopefully cosmic will reach a stage where cosmic + pop os makes you never need to touch terminal again. Not that i hate terminal, I'd love for everything to just work like in windows and mac. Keep it up Nick. New format is good. More interactive and less of powerpoint presentation 😂
Underrated comment. They are selling hardware and they want their customers to have comfortable experience with the hardware they sell. If they do it right, money will flow in. Having a guarantee that the hardware I have is 100% linux compatible would be probably the one thing that would push me back to Linux. I switched to windows in 2009 after the Windows 7 release. In regards to the DE, the maximize button for an app window and good window tiling management without breaking bugs would be a nice change.
_Wow, I see that linux is moving faster and faster, I became interested in linux about 1 year ago. I'm a windows user but I love linux and where it's going. Slowly and surely I would like to migrate to a Linux distribution :D_
really like the direction Comic is going. I realize that committing to a project like this takes many hours and days and months to complete but they still have a lot to do before this can be used as a completed desktop. I will try it again in a couple of months. Looking forward to a completed desktop mean while I will stay with XFCE yes the old reliable desktop with no surprises every thing just works.
Like the video format! I just figured out that the sudo apt update/upgrade wasn't updating everything and had to go through the store to do the full system update but now I have all the changes - thank goodness! Love the compact setting and I can finally connect to my VPN using the menus instead of the command line every time, nice. Been running this since the release of the first alpha on my 3 monitor setup and haven't had any real problems, sometimes if I click beween monitors I have to click to move a window before I can actually click into it and control anything, that's kind of strange, maybe this is fixed now. Thanks for doing the video I wondered what the main changes were on this latest alpha, now I know!
Being the consumer of a lot of podcasts this behind the desk with a mic is something I'm used to seeing. Don't kill yourself over there with writing scripts and producing a very polished product. Even just doing off the cuff reviews is just fine with me. You always do comprehensive reports and you're gifted with that voice. Keep going with this, it's good. Good review of cosmic, I'm using it and like it a lot.
It's great to see something really different in terms of GUI on Linux since the old days of Unity. I particularly don't like Gnome and I like KDE even less so, this news is great and brings me hope to see something better than Cinnamon which I like very much and maybe change my distribution after all these years. Thanks for the video!
It was probably around a year ago that Hyprland had unintentionally solved fractional scaling. You could change your screen resolution in xrandr and it would scale to your screen perfectly. It's a shame that no longer works. It was such a perfect example of its a feature, not a bug.
This format is cool, you could mix it here and there to post when feeling like taking a breath Don't burn yourself out, perfection is not the point, and your quality is always up there
The only thing wrong with cosmic is that it's not KDE. Just kidding. Lol seriously though, the only thing that really bugs me about popos is that it's default? UI is gnome, which I'm personally not a fan of. I understand that. That's a preference and acknowledge that. I just wish gnome was more configurable without having to have a plethora of plug-ins.
@@drummrboy I think he means the layout and style is more Gnome. @TonyKirkland I, personally, use KDE, but mine is laid out more like Gnome, as it works best for me. It is the great thing about KDE, you can make it how you want.
pop os old ui did alot of good things hitting alt tab to switch between windows and alt ` to Switch windows of a current app(eg multiple windows of firefox) hitting printscreen once to take a snippet. now you have to hit printscreen once on cosmic then select selection. and it does not even save in the dedicated screenshots folder just in pictures better multiple monitor support than kde
@@greenphlemthe UI is not really gnome, it doesn't have the whole overview thing, which I would argue is the true gnome style. I think it's libadwaita but not gnome
This format works for me. It’s up to whatever works best for your workflow. If it means you can crank out content and have a better work/life balance, I’d say that’s great! Polish is nice but this is more than a sufficient video.
13:00 For some reason the UA-cam player freezes every now and then for me. And because it happpened this rime _right_ when you talked about apps freezing I first thought that you had frozen the video XD
I've been loving all the new additions to cosmic, and I'd be super happy to finally get back to using a TWM on my desktop, ever since I've moved away from windows I've been using KDE plasma for the ease of use, but I still want tiling AND per-desktop workspaces.
This is really good progress. I like where this is going, as I enjoy Gnome and particularly liked Cosmic's tweaks. Although I hope there will be extension support.
The new format is certainly good enough. I'd work on the filled pauses within your speech, though. I figure it shouldn't be an issue to cut them in post? Otherwise, job well done, as always 👍
very excited for cosmic. i just got off a zoom call with system76 talking about accessibility options which is very important in my community. they seem to be taking us seriously which is something gnome has been surprisingly resistant too.
I've been daily driving cosmic pretty much since the beginning of the first alpha. Seeing how much progress it's made is super impressive and it gets me excited. Once it adds vrr support and games actually launch lol, it might as well as be done for me personally PS I also enjoy this format. It feels "comfy" if that makes sense but you always put out good stuff
"So... not sure where this thing went now... I dropped it from the videos folder... to the videos folder... and it went away." :D :D A funny bug and amusing commentary. For the first time, as someone who hasn't been a fan of Cosmic it's actually starting to look rather useful and quite nice.
Merci pour ton travail. Le fond est toujours là, la forme je m'en fou un peu. Quelque soit le format que tu utilises, je continuerai a suivre tes contenus ! Bisous de Lille
I prefer this new format for presenting your vids.. On-the-fly can sometimes be a lot better than scripted.. it was a great way to present this new Cosmic alpha.. an interesting OS.. got a lot of potential.
The ONLY thing I really want from ANY linux DE is thumbnail icons on image and video files when in a file picker dialog. Like I don't remember if it is "Screenshot 2024-09-10 11:12:22.png" or "Screenshot 2024-09-10 11:13:22.png" that was the correct one I wanted to upload, and currently no DE has this. Just icons. Windows (ugh) has had this since 1996.
Please Cosmic, remove the rounded shape inside the dropdown menus, it's such an eyesore. Just highlight the entire line, whatever is the round radii setting.
as someone who has been using linux for just a year now what i've been struggling to find the most was a good desktop environment that works well out of the box while also allowing a lot of headroom for customization. No de, kde, gnome, xfce, mint or the like have satisfied me, and tile managers like hyprland are too much for my newbie mind to consume, but as soon as i saw cosmic i knew this was exactly what i needed, i'd go as far as to use it in it's current alpha state if it happened to be stable (my popos partition randomly got corrupt or deleted while i was using it lol). I'm looking forward to it's full release and i'd go as far as to say that it's one big step towards the year of the linux desktop :P also i really like this video format, the unscripted nature makes it feel a lot more at home
I'm really excited about this desktop. I've been on the edge regarding ditching windows and this will be it. I will wait for a stable realease, so, maybe next year, but i don't mind. It looks awesome already And great video! Super easy to listen to
Nick, great video! The format was totally fine. I have one complaint about PopOS and that is it takes entirely too long to tell me if ive enetered my password incorrectly. I'm not sure if it's a GDM issue specifically or what, but it should be near instant on the feedback instead of a few seconds. A minor gripe, I know.
This video was fine, no complaints, and thanks for letting us know about Cosmic Desktop status; so hopefully expect something for Dec/24. From what I can see, it sure looks alot like Gnome.
Thanks for the update video. Two questions : how did you virtualize it? I used virt-manager/qemu and it was very slow. Second question.: do you know any file manger that has column view as the OsX Finder?
There is a error in Cosmic's top bar, one of the icons in the top right like maybe the display one I think has a very faint grey square around it where there's something up with the transparency. If you have an OLED or similarly high-end monitor you can see it.
Both formats. I think the scripted news delivery is fantastic. I can put it on in the background while I get ready in the morning or something. And I like this ad lib format a lot, but is absolutely not a replacement. I think you can define the ab lib with a moniker like "Breaking News" or "Breakout Sesh" something distinct. I think having two formats on your channel is great, and folks can know if they see the Breakout label (or whatever), they know it's something they can watch now for something hot.
Can't wait until the new version of Pop!_OS comes out :) Actually the whole topic with high resolution displays, multiple display setup, wayland and fractional scaling was the reason why I gave up on other distros and moved to Pop!_OS.
For me it just needs the ability to turn off workspaces, span wallpaper across dual monitors option and super+1-9 for launching apps from dock when in dock to panel mode. There's a few oddities still, like screenshot tool isn't as nice to use as the one in 22.04 (no ctrl-c to clipboard), no drag+drop from file manager etc. Overall though, very happy with how it's coming along.
I like this format. I don't think every video needs a 100% polished script and editing, especially in updates reporting videos, where fast delivery is more important.
It is very interesting that when you click outside a window that has a menu open - it does not close the window. I'm used to the Plasma behaviour that mimics X11's "mouse grab" where interacting with anything outside an open menu closes the menu.
I want to say, great video. I can't wait for cosmic to be coming to the betas and stable versions. Also, I do prefer this format better. Maybe you can do this format and then at the end of the week, do a summary using the other format for people that didn't get to watch all the videos.
Using Alpha 2 now and it's not bad! Can now move Firefox window with video playing and video continues to play smoothly. Alpha 1 had a problem with doing that.
the cosmic desktop i think would hit all the nails for so many linux users. as it has the simplicity of gnome, the flexibility of plasma, and the tiling of tiling WMs. in that sense it makes me want to use it more but until they iron out their bugs, i wont be using it any time soon. cant wait to see it get stable though
This format is good. Scripted format is same and with time it feels boring like some teacher is teaching. Unpredictability keeps the video interesting.
First impressions after updating is good. It fixed some problems I had like the date/time being completely bugged making me unable to change time zone. Also the Bluetooth menu in settings let's me connect to new devices easily. I'm going to continue to see but right now it feels much more polished :)
It was recommended to install system updates before using COSMIC. That's still true for Alpha 2. The timezone fix was a day 0 update that was released after the Alpha 1 ISO was built, but before it was published. For Alpha 2, the day 0 update has fixes for keyboard layout configs being reset on reboot.
Biggest update to me was that games now work properly as they would on other wayland desktops. Before a lot of games would start but were not interactable. Basically couldn't click on anything with a mouse before. Which is fixed now. Yes I use pop 24.04 with cosmic on my actual gaming pc.
I prefer your more structured videos, but it's good to mix it up every now and then. As for the topic at hand, Pop_os' development of a cross platform rust toolkit in place of GTK is probably more impactful for Linux as a whole than Cosmic itself or the fact that it's being developed by a company instead of the community.
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00:00 nick as you asked for feedback: yes scripted videos will almost always be better, except in this one you got improvisation right on the timing to release this kinda minor release review as soon as possible. Quickness got you in the front from another linux youtubers in this one!
I think this video format is fine, especially for a minor alpha release. Of course, scripted videos will always feel better! So I prefer them!
can't wait for the full release. I feel like its gonna be awesome.
I think you are confused. Awesome is a different tiling solution. This is cosmic. :)
@@Drazil100 ha ha ha ha 🤣🤣
Will wait very long only alpha2 98 more alphas 😂
Me too. I look forward to the day where I will be able to run the Cosmic Desktop on a Serpent OS-based Solus.
Looks great for alpha software, props to System76 and the team
I like this format better. Voice sounds better over the mic.
Yeah, and it also seems more chill. I like it.
Mic seemed to take up all the space though, instead of his face.
15:28 I am one of those people lol. I don't care if the desktop is made by a company or a community project, I'm excited for COSMIC because it looks like a great middle ground between GNOME and KDE
Yeah, really like if GNOME and KDE got a baby
Considering their team size, the amount of work they manage to push through is really impressive!
No complaints about this "on the fly" review. Well done I say.
For me the dilemma is this: Do I keep my perfected KDE customized UI, automation, and behavior vs Do I go for the tiling experience and good middle ground between GNOME and KDE that I know will be great for me
I personally use hyprland, but with all the apps from kde (and i can fallback to kde)
I would switch to kde permanently, if they ever implemented autotiling
And i do not use cosmic, because i just love too much fedora and their stable with uptodate packages.
@@no_name4796on cosmic-epoch repo there are instructions on installing cosmic on fedora. Its like two commands and its pretty easy.
I saw the hexadecimal numbers on the "binary file" icon and immediately thought "What would that represent if interpreted as text?". So I typed them into my hex editor and got back "PopIcons Ian".
That's a pretty cool Easter egg!
@@NavneetRao
Is one of the maintainers' name Ian, by the way?
@@Lampe2020 Ian created the original Pop icon theme
@@mmstick
Ah, okay. Nice easteregg!
The compact mode is nice, but there's a lot of small things that hurt my eyes in the UI.
There's a list of things that i would like to see them change:
Too much rounded list: (These are maybe fix with the rounded style setting?)
- In the Folder App, the ultra rounded menu corner is too round.
- The main bottom menu corners are ultra rounded too.
- The GTK application radius is more rounded than the border, so we see a little gap in the corners
I would love to see these corner as round as the other things.
Missing padding:
- The SearchBar of the Folder App touch the top border of the window, It miss some space there or the search bar is too big.
- The when a file is selected/highlight in a list of files, it touch to the top line and it touch the right scrollbar. A little margin would give something better looking here.
- In the Folder App, when you click on "File", the menu list have no margin/padding. Like the hightlight toutch the edge of the list window and the edge of the next element. (And it is different from the left Folder App menu)
- The main bottom menu icon are almost overlaping the edge. (Lower radius would help, but a little padding to the top and left/right would help)
Well this is an Alpha, so this is a good moment to share comments like this to hope seeing that ajusted right? :P
That being said, they seems to works pretty fast, and that's nice to see!
Have you made an issue on their github yet? I'm sure they'd appreciate the feedback
@@Tempestissiman That is a very good idea. That's how the devs actually see feature requests and whatnot after all
Is it realistic to expect a stable release in 2024? It's kinda crazy how fast they're making this.
Not sure, I think they’d like to, but they haven’t confirmed it yet
There is not much left of 2024, I kind of doubt. And it is better to launch it when it is pretty fully featured.
Probably not, at this pace, I could maybe see a release for summer 2025
It's hard to believe. But note that at the time of writing it is really stable and, after setting some options through configuration files, is not bad as a daily driver. The experience is half way between a standard DE and a tiling WM i would say. Already much better than the latter
Nah 98 more alpha's
Really hope Cosmic is amazing and releases soon, personally PopOs and ElementaryOs have the most enjoyable Desktops, unfortunately ElementaryOs is not updated frequently enough and PopOs is stuck at 22.04 till Cosmic is completed andas a former Mac user im not a fan of KDE so I'm forced to use Ubuntu while i wait cos stock whilst stick gnome is slightly better than kde for me, its still not ideal
Maybe try the cutefish DE
I am just chilling on Pop 22.04. Don't really need anything newer right now, I will just wait for COSMIC to release with new Pop officially.
same here. i’m using KDE until cosmic comes out but my god i don’t like it lol
Contributions to elementaryOS are always welcome tho hehe
"My KDE sensibilities"? He he, you're warming up to Plasma. 😏
Oh yeah, I like it
@@TheLinuxEXP I'm just getting started with Linux and plan to switch over completely very soon. I just want a desktop that I can see as well as I see my Windows one. So, I keep tinkering with "try it" on several Ubuntu releases, and have Linux Mint loaded on a machine for the time being. I am not really liking it much. My eyes are old.
@@The-Friendly-Grizzly My suggestion to you Manjaro KDE Plasma.
@@MdMozammelHossain Oh dear I've had a bad experience with Manjaro. Repeadedly updates messed up my system. Kubuntu and Fedora KDE are more user friendly KDE distros.
@@MdMozammelHossain I am burning it to a thumb-drive right this minute. When I get home this evening after my piano lesson, I will take it for a spin. Thank you!
I just realised, we are just Sisyphus. Forever configuring Linux for insatiable mind……😢
I've been daily driving the alpha 1 on fedora for about a week now, I can say it's a pretty solid for an alpha. General apps work, some hurdles when it comes to gaming and some alpha bugs here and there, but it is working surprisingly well. And I'm also seeing gaming performance increase compared to KDE. Much better frametimes in games and even FPS increase. And with the TKG kernel I was seeing up to 20 fps more in cyberpunk on my hardware, compared to KDE(and KDE is much better than Gnome in this regard as well).
The first few seconds were very surreal.
Yeah, not the usual intros and visuals!
Looks pretty cool! I think the UI needs to be modified a little bit, like being more animated and fluid. Other than that it is an awesome DE
lazytanuki has been working on adding animations to the iced GUI library that our toolkit is based on, so there will eventually be very fluid animations.
Maybe 100 years from now you'll finally figure out your desktop.
Not my fault if everything is so cool, I can’t choose
It is like choosing your car., Except, almost everyone can afford any car.
@@kamathln It was mostly about linux not being able to figure out what every other operating system figured out long ago. You can personalize all of them.
@@itzhexen0 Did you accidentally say stuff upside down? I always felt other OSes are not as configurable and personalizable as GNU/Linux . Been using it since 20 years.
With GNU/Linux, you don"t have to stick with the desktop provided by the distribution of your choice. I personally like and use KDE. But in today's time I find more and more apps are on the browser anyway. Only heavy apps like video editors, AAA games, video editors, and the like still remain outside! The transparency (of the development) of the OS and the browser are more important today than ever before
I enjoyed the video and format.
Good to hear!
@@TheLinuxEXP Me too. I enjoyed the video a lot
@@TheLinuxEXPsame, looks like good old Nick from the elementaryOS times!
"Probably for accessibility... or GNOME users".
I like this presentation format too! Has a "radio" flavor to it. Any presentation you give is always great.
Gnome's padding is actually the same size as the "compact" one here though 🙃
GNOME doesn't have that much padding. It's GNOME 2 that had too little padding and now they adjusted. There are some exceptions where they go over the board, but GNOME is overall pretty good visuals.
Im very much looking forward to cosmic. Since theyre customer facing, hopefully cosmic will reach a stage where cosmic + pop os makes you never need to touch terminal again. Not that i hate terminal, I'd love for everything to just work like in windows and mac.
Keep it up Nick. New format is good. More interactive and less of powerpoint presentation 😂
Underrated comment. They are selling hardware and they want their customers to have comfortable experience with the hardware they sell. If they do it right, money will flow in. Having a guarantee that the hardware I have is 100% linux compatible would be probably the one thing that would push me back to Linux. I switched to windows in 2009 after the Windows 7 release. In regards to the DE, the maximize button for an app window and good window tiling management without breaking bugs would be a nice change.
_Wow, I see that linux is moving faster and faster, I became interested in linux about 1 year ago. I'm a windows user but I love linux and where it's going. Slowly and surely I would like to migrate to a Linux distribution :D_
really like the direction Comic is going. I realize that committing to a project like this takes many hours and days and months to complete but they still have a lot to do before this can be used as a completed desktop. I will try it again in a couple of months. Looking forward to a completed desktop mean while I will stay with XFCE yes the old reliable desktop with no surprises every thing just works.
Like the video format! I just figured out that the sudo apt update/upgrade wasn't updating everything and had to go through the store to do the full system update but now I have all the changes - thank goodness! Love the compact setting and I can finally connect to my VPN using the menus instead of the command line every time, nice. Been running this since the release of the first alpha on my 3 monitor setup and haven't had any real problems, sometimes if I click beween monitors I have to click to move a window before I can actually click into it and control anything, that's kind of strange, maybe this is fixed now. Thanks for doing the video I wondered what the main changes were on this latest alpha, now I know!
Being the consumer of a lot of podcasts this behind the desk with a mic is something I'm used to seeing. Don't kill yourself over there with writing scripts and producing a very polished product. Even just doing off the cuff reviews is just fine with me. You always do comprehensive reports and you're gifted with that voice. Keep going with this, it's good. Good review of cosmic, I'm using it and like it a lot.
It's great to see something really different in terms of GUI on Linux since the old days of Unity. I particularly don't like Gnome and I like KDE even less so, this news is great and brings me hope to see something better than Cinnamon which I like very much and maybe change my distribution after all these years. Thanks for the video!
Great video Nick! Looking forward to trying out Cosmic when it's closer to release to see how the workflow feels for me.
I really hop it'll come to Fedora when it's out, I really like the direction they're heading
Quick format works well. I like your longer format too. Mix the long and the quick format and you're on a winner.
It was probably around a year ago that Hyprland had unintentionally solved fractional scaling. You could change your screen resolution in xrandr and it would scale to your screen perfectly. It's a shame that no longer works. It was such a perfect example of its a feature, not a bug.
Thank you for your videos. I expect quick videos from you, so liked the format today. Even faster will do....🎉
I hope that they can succeed with Cosmic. There's always a place for a new desktop.
This format is cool, you could mix it here and there to post when feeling like taking a breath
Don't burn yourself out, perfection is not the point, and your quality is always up there
If the development continues this way, in 3-4 years this might replace Gnome in many distributions. PS: I like this format better.
Padded is good for people who use alternative input devices like eye trackers. They are not as accurate as a mouse.
The only thing wrong with cosmic is that it's not KDE. Just kidding. Lol seriously though, the only thing that really bugs me about popos is that it's default? UI is gnome, which I'm personally not a fan of. I understand that. That's a preference and acknowledge that. I just wish gnome was more configurable without having to have a plethora of plug-ins.
Cosmic Desktop is their new desktop environment, and it's a clean rewrite, nothing to do with Gnome anymore.
@@drummrboythe UI (note the difference) is essentially gnome,
@@drummrboy I think he means the layout and style is more Gnome.
@TonyKirkland I, personally, use KDE, but mine is laid out more like Gnome, as it works best for me. It is the great thing about KDE, you can make it how you want.
pop os old ui did alot of good things
hitting alt tab to switch between windows and alt ` to Switch windows of a current app(eg multiple windows of firefox)
hitting printscreen once to take a snippet. now you have to hit printscreen once on cosmic then select selection. and it does not even save in the dedicated screenshots folder just in pictures
better multiple monitor support than kde
@@greenphlemthe UI is not really gnome, it doesn't have the whole overview thing, which I would argue is the true gnome style.
I think it's libadwaita but not gnome
This format works for me. It’s up to whatever works best for your workflow. If it means you can crank out content and have a better work/life balance, I’d say that’s great! Polish is nice but this is more than a sufficient video.
13:00 For some reason the UA-cam player freezes every now and then for me. And because it happpened this rime _right_ when you talked about apps freezing I first thought that you had frozen the video XD
Great video, i like this approach. You can mix, scripted/unscripted , everything has its charm
I've been loving all the new additions to cosmic, and I'd be super happy to finally get back to using a TWM on my desktop, ever since I've moved away from windows I've been using KDE plasma for the ease of use, but I still want tiling AND per-desktop workspaces.
This is really good progress. I like where this is going, as I enjoy Gnome and particularly liked Cosmic's tweaks. Although I hope there will be extension support.
The new format is certainly good enough. I'd work on the filled pauses within your speech, though. I figure it shouldn't be an issue to cut them in post? Otherwise, job well done, as always 👍
very excited for cosmic. i just got off a zoom call with system76 talking about accessibility options which is very important in my community. they seem to be taking us seriously which is something gnome has been surprisingly resistant too.
I've been daily driving cosmic pretty much since the beginning of the first alpha. Seeing how much progress it's made is super impressive and it gets me excited. Once it adds vrr support and games actually launch lol, it might as well as be done for me personally
PS I also enjoy this format. It feels "comfy" if that makes sense but you always put out good stuff
"So... not sure where this thing went now... I dropped it from the videos folder... to the videos folder... and it went away." :D :D A funny bug and amusing commentary. For the first time, as someone who hasn't been a fan of Cosmic it's actually starting to look rather useful and quite nice.
Merci pour ton travail. Le fond est toujours là, la forme je m'en fou un peu. Quelque soit le format que tu utilises, je continuerai a suivre tes contenus ! Bisous de Lille
Merci beaucoup !
Pumped for Cosmic! The auto tiling with optional float windows as you'd like is super convenient!
I prefer this new format for presenting your vids.. On-the-fly can sometimes be a lot better than scripted.. it was a great way to present this new Cosmic alpha.. an interesting OS.. got a lot of potential.
Woah, nice stuff on your shelf! Didn't notice until now.
The ONLY thing I really want from ANY linux DE is thumbnail icons on image and video files when in a file picker dialog. Like I don't remember if it is "Screenshot 2024-09-10 11:12:22.png" or "Screenshot 2024-09-10 11:13:22.png" that was the correct one I wanted to upload, and currently no DE has this. Just icons. Windows (ugh) has had this since 1996.
I really like this new format. Just by the fact that i saw all the video this time, and not the last one
So how do you actually enable cosmic. Is ot just on by desfult when you install pop_os?
Please Cosmic, remove the rounded shape inside the dropdown menus, it's such an eyesore. Just highlight the entire line, whatever is the round radii setting.
Agree.
Completely rounding it is so annoying.
I wish it was a little bit rounded maybe 4-6px
this is configurable
@@willi1978 this is good
you can turn off the rounding or make it smaller in the settings
Honestly, this is looking much better than I expected and I can really see this becoming the new "default" desktop and replace GNOME on many distros.
as someone who has been using linux for just a year now what i've been struggling to find the most was a good desktop environment that works well out of the box while also allowing a lot of headroom for customization.
No de, kde, gnome, xfce, mint or the like have satisfied me, and tile managers like hyprland are too much for my newbie mind to consume, but as soon as i saw cosmic i knew this was exactly what i needed, i'd go as far as to use it in it's current alpha state if it happened to be stable (my popos partition randomly got corrupt or deleted while i was using it lol). I'm looking forward to it's full release and i'd go as far as to say that it's one big step towards the year of the linux desktop :P
also i really like this video format, the unscripted nature makes it feel a lot more at home
I love this kind of video format for updates. The scripted format is pretty good for news :D
damn the warhammer boxes on the background
Cosmic has done a fantastic job. Really hope they keep this up.
I like this more non-scripted/formal method for videos like this. The scripted format is great for news type videos, but this more natural for a demo.
I'm really excited about this desktop. I've been on the edge regarding ditching windows and this will be it. I will wait for a stable realease, so, maybe next year, but i don't mind. It looks awesome already
And great video! Super easy to listen to
Pour le format, C'est tout bon. Pas besoin de plus tu as bossé super vite je trouve.
Nick, great video! The format was totally fine.
I have one complaint about PopOS and that is it takes entirely too long to tell me if ive enetered my password incorrectly. I'm not sure if it's a GDM issue specifically or what, but it should be near instant on the feedback instead of a few seconds. A minor gripe, I know.
Like the new format Nick. Small favour, please close door in background. :-)
This video was fine, no complaints, and thanks for letting us know about Cosmic Desktop status; so hopefully expect something for Dec/24. From what I can see, it sure looks alot like Gnome.
Thanks for the update video. Two questions : how did you virtualize it? I used virt-manager/qemu and it was very slow. Second question.: do you know any file manger that has column view as the OsX Finder?
When finished Cosmic GUI could be good enough for me to finally move from Mac to Linux. Will need to test it in the future.
There is a error in Cosmic's top bar, one of the icons in the top right like maybe the display one I think has a very faint grey square around it where there's something up with the transparency. If you have an OLED or similarly high-end monitor you can see it.
I am so excited for this. I can't wait for the Cosmic desktop to release.
This was actually a good format. I'd say keep doing this, if it is easier!
So.. There's no "fixes" to the workspaces yet? You can't flip between with mouse button? Does it still overlap with the dock?
Both formats.
I think the scripted news delivery is fantastic. I can put it on in the background while I get ready in the morning or something.
And I like this ad lib format a lot, but is absolutely not a replacement.
I think you can define the ab lib with a moniker like "Breaking News" or "Breakout Sesh" something distinct.
I think having two formats on your channel is great, and folks can know if they see the Breakout label (or whatever), they know it's something they can watch now for something hot.
Can't wait until the new version of Pop!_OS comes out :) Actually the whole topic with high resolution displays, multiple display setup, wayland and fractional scaling was the reason why I gave up on other distros and moved to Pop!_OS.
I really prefer this format. Also makes me feal like I'm watching a gamer. Please continue.
For me it just needs the ability to turn off workspaces, span wallpaper across dual monitors option and super+1-9 for launching apps from dock when in dock to panel mode.
There's a few oddities still, like screenshot tool isn't as nice to use as the one in 22.04 (no ctrl-c to clipboard), no drag+drop from file manager etc.
Overall though, very happy with how it's coming along.
Like this new style than old one, feels old-school UA-cam videos
I like this format. I don't think every video needs a 100% polished script and editing, especially in updates reporting videos, where fast delivery is more important.
They also got custom mapping for caps lock key. Idk who suggested that but it's pretty cool for vim users
Theyll make the Wine Wayland driver default soon.
Love the new background! Screams like a streamer era
Man I absolutely love the new Interface Density settings. I agree, that the compact option is really the best.
It is very interesting that when you click outside a window that has a menu open - it does not close the window.
I'm used to the Plasma behaviour that mimics X11's "mouse grab" where interacting with anything outside an open menu closes the menu.
Love the green wallpaper
Also, glad to see the progress of COSMIC
I want to say, great video. I can't wait for cosmic to be coming to the betas and stable versions. Also, I do prefer this format better. Maybe you can do this format and then at the end of the week, do a summary using the other format for people that didn't get to watch all the videos.
Using Alpha 2 now and it's not bad! Can now move Firefox window with video playing and video continues to play smoothly. Alpha 1 had a problem with doing that.
Clear, friendly, helpful. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't include this video format in your rotation.
i really hope they have plans to allow customizing the title bar or whatever you wanna call it ,change out the buttons , remove them all together etc
I wish these people all the luck in the world!
really cool and beautiful alpha! Can't wait for the full release!
I like the new desk and background 👍
the cosmic desktop i think would hit all the nails for so many linux users. as it has the simplicity of gnome, the flexibility of plasma, and the tiling of tiling WMs. in that sense it makes me want to use it more but until they iron out their bugs, i wont be using it any time soon. cant wait to see it get stable though
This format is good. Scripted format is same and with time it feels boring like some teacher is teaching. Unpredictability keeps the video interesting.
First impressions after updating is good. It fixed some problems I had like the date/time being completely bugged making me unable to change time zone. Also the Bluetooth menu in settings let's me connect to new devices easily. I'm going to continue to see but right now it feels much more polished :)
It was recommended to install system updates before using COSMIC. That's still true for Alpha 2. The timezone fix was a day 0 update that was released after the Alpha 1 ISO was built, but before it was published. For Alpha 2, the day 0 update has fixes for keyboard layout configs being reset on reboot.
Thanks -- either format is fine for me. Jest keep on keeping on...
Biggest update to me was that games now work properly as they would on other wayland desktops. Before a lot of games would start but were not interactable. Basically couldn't click on anything with a mouse before. Which is fixed now. Yes I use pop 24.04 with cosmic on my actual gaming pc.
Did they add in cursor customisation? They had icon options but not cursor options in Alpha 1.
I prefer your more structured videos, but it's good to mix it up every now and then.
As for the topic at hand, Pop_os' development of a cross platform rust toolkit in place of GTK is probably more impactful for Linux as a whole than Cosmic itself or the fact that it's being developed by a company instead of the community.