upgraded yesterday, turned on today and external screen is flickering constantly - downgraded all packages back to day before yesterday using arch wiki
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus What are you talking about: KDE Plasma had a good and complete UI for years. Some things may not have been as polished and consistent as like MacOS (which is actually only polished on the surface considering how horrible my experience is each time I have to use it), but it's still completely usable and far more customizable than anything else you can think of. So before being so sarcastic about their UI, find me anything that can compete against KDE on appearance, ease-of-use, customization, features and application suite, at the same time. Spoiler alert: there's nothing.
Same, I had a chromebook and made it a chrultrabook but windows wouldn't really work Because it only had 16GB storage, so I switched to Kubuntu 22.10, I still have fond memories of that first boot up and that cozy little wallpaper
4:32 "just to avoid dragging things where you don't want them" while Dolphin proceeds to drag completely unrelated Home shortcut where Nick didn't want it to go.
Finally being able to set user picture with a crop function is the biggest news of the year. Cannot believe how many profile picture selectors (not just on kde) don't let you do that
I'm glad KDE team shifted their manpower more towards bug fixing early this year. Because let's be real no DE is touching it in terms of features for many years anyways
@FalFan-sc hey tere is an ongoing Breeze theme revamp and it seems like it will do alot of good ... they even talked about svg icons for everything not just the mouse
Same. Meta + left click grabs the window whereas Meta + right click allows to resize windows easily, without having to reach to the window edges or corners.
KDE has always been the power desktop option for Linux. And it seems it is continuing down that road with v6, as it should. I think the final v5 is great. But v6 looks awesome. Look forward to using it at some point in the future.
Through all it's releases it managed to keep the same feeling when using it. For me, at least. Most probably because it kept essential features in the same place. E.g. clipboard manager is essentially the same icon in the same spot ever since I started using KDE back in 2006.
17:20 That's actually ingenious! I have an Intel Arc powered laptop and it's dGPU constantly is powered as the i915 driver can't turn it off because of the Alchemist vRAM bug. Currently, the only work around is running a custom script to analyse the system hardware, locate and then unbind the dGPU. Then, run a secondary script to rescan the system to rebind it again. Previously, I was going to equip those scrips to the power profiles so when it's on battery, it unbinds the A730m dGPU, and then when I plug it in, it reactivates the dGPU. But this is exactly what I needed! With this, a simple Super+PGUP and Super+PGDown can be bound to handle bind and unbind on the fly!
Thank you for covering drawing tablet support as best as you could. Lack of support here meant I had a terrible time on wayland compared to X11... so I'll need to give Plasma 6.2 a test run again.
Running Fedora 41 Beta KDE on my Surface Go 3, which is my travel/meeting/test system 6.2 dropped there a few days ago. It is nice and smooth even on this system, which is not a power horse by any means. I love the focus on stability and QOL.
I think the middle click to scroll 14:34 feature is going to be more useful for attracting windows users than you would expect. Depending on how it's implemented. As a windows user I got severely annoyed I didn't have this, especially when trudging through large documents or long articles and there was no system wide implementation that lead to a similar feature. Hopefully it's implemented like in windows and not the crappy way you can find on forums with binding to ximput
This has been one of my biggest "nitpicks" and this implementation is even better than the windows one (at least for my personal taste). It works similar to you manually hovering and clicking the scrollbar and then going up or down, but "automatically" when you click the middle mouse button. I would like some "feedback", like the cursor/pointer having a new icon when scrolling like this. Besides that I am really glad that I saw this video, otherwise I would have miss this.
KDE Plasma is great DE ❤❤❤ In plasma 6, a lot of broken things are getting fixed & improved (except for Latte Dock 💔) I found that the kvantum theme isn't quite useful. The global theme works fine. If it's a dark themes, the search fields, menus in settings, LibreOffice menus get black hole dark. I need to fix it by changing application style, plasma style, window decoration & then it becomes good. After applying theme, the colours of folders in dolphin are the same for all eg blue for breeze, green for other but individual folder colour can't be changed or made different with theme. The home folders are of different colours. Still plasma rocks (except for default panel which is boring)
Finally finished my 9950x 96gb ecc RM52 build and started my transition to Linux as my daily with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed at home. It seems its a good time to switch. I so appreciate text and icons being a first class option as well as the bevy of options there by default.
Even though I've been using KDE for quite a while now, I still leave the welcome screen on for updates (when KDE gets upgraded from 6.1 to 6.2). That way I can easily see whats new. To me, KDEs functionality just makes more sense intuitively than a lot of the other DEs and one reason I started daily driving Linux in favour of Windows.
As a graduate CompSci student, KDE Plasma 6 with Arch Linux is the best DE/OS combo I have used. And I have used MacOS, Hyprland WM and Windows. Nothing comes close, at least for my workflow. Plasma gets a chef's kiss *
This KDE update is really lit! It now finally works like you would expect, if you unplug an external monitor, that it switches back to the laptop screen - which never worked before under Wayland. So you had to manually toggle to the laptop screen and then unplug. Also: I'm surprised that it can change the brightness of my external monitor, which uses DVI-I. So I'm using an HDMI to DVI-I cable, and it works still flawlessly to adjust the brightness inside the monitor's settings. I didn't even know that was possible. Windows certainly could not do this.
@@code8986 thx, I like xface too, but it would have to be substantially faster than plasma and it just isn't. Also, it requires a lot of work to customize properly, where plasma just works out of the box, in my experience.
@@AsgerJon It's funny, I had pretty much the same thought when I started to try XFCE (after having tried Plasma): "I'll give up some features (and yes, eye candy) if XFCE turns out to be faster and/or to use less memory than Plasma", but it didn't materially (if at all) do either of those. Plasma is the best balance between the features and resource efficiency that I want.
@@AsgerJon No, I don't want to imagine that and you can't make me... 🤣...I'd use ANY desktop environment on Linux before I'd use Windows! I ditched Windows years ago for exactly those reasons you mentioned!!
the Plasma boys & girls are doing great work making the UX into something that's almost on par with Windows or Mac. I've been using Windows 11 of late - on several dual-booted desktops and a Windows laptop - and Windows still feels more slick as regards speed and reactivity of the UI, but it's still a combination of disparate styles from various previous versions and is nowhere near as customizable as Plasma (but then what is?). KDE Plasma still needs some polishing, not least around the script-based aspects of the UI which I believe are responsible for some of the issues I still see (using 6.1 currently) with flickering on redraws, font sizes being dragged out and so forth (although I'm not seeing that so much of late). I'm waiting (patiently) for a snap-to-grid aspect when arranging widgets on the desktop - I have several in a column and they will not occupy the same space nor abide to the size I try to select for them. Panel edit mode still needs some work, but it's more-or-less there (for my needs at least). Good job everybody, including Nick!
Plasma is getting better day by day. I really like that graphic tablet feature of how all of its settings are baked in the default settings app. We dont need to install a separate app for every device. Also, like tge ability to control flatpak permissions.
i like that "feels like" weather app feature. would have used different analogy, its more like when its 16c but with the wind added, it feels much worse than that, like 10c or something.
I recently switched to plasma, at first it was very confusing but after some customization and watching UA-cam videos about customization and usability, I am quite impressed and won't go back to my other desktop environment any time soon
12:20 maybe they can split it off into 2 rows. Leave the icons that usually show up wherever they are, and if there's an update, add them below without moving the other icons (to help with muscle memory). Sad virtual desktop rearrangement didn't make in :p
Being colorblind it's awesome that a lot of software has dark mode and color correction now. This increases performance and costs me less time to tweak everything for colors :)
Would be nice if plasma grouped keyboard shortcuts then sort alphabetically rather than sorting them alphabetically, regardless of what the shortcut affects. Would make customisation a lot easier.
With some applications, GNOME is the worst desktop to use due to the no client side decorations rule. Vegas Pro for instance. GNOME make some very strange decisions and hold back Wayland development for no good reason. Plasma 6 is very nice to use by default, while GNOME needs extensions and I am still not happy using it.
@@night_fiend6 you might be true with the lack of decoration in some windows, but GNOME with no extensions is the intended way to use it by the developers. I use it with no extensions at all and for me it's the best experience I've ever had.
I will move to Plasma 6 when with Ubuntu 26.04 base, most probably. 5.27 is feature rich enough for doing the work so far. If I survive, of course. Greetings from Ukraine.
I like this kind of release preview. I don't recall how it looked earlier, but seeing more of your actual experience, rather than some public release video exceptions, is more engaging. Or maybe something else has changed, but somehow, this is a much better format. Also, seeing old and new version aside that you can interact with is incredibly helpful. The best Plasma release video so far! Thanks!
Not a deal breaker for me, but I would love to be able to add a gesture like on Windows like scroll in the side for brightness or volume. One thing that bugs me is that in overview you can't use three fingers to focus on the desktop that you have selected, which exists on gnome.
I'm waiting for this too, but it's not a problem to use inbuilt gestures for me. Still, it would be nice to have. As far I remember, no one wants to work on it. All agree it would be great to have, but someone has to step up and no one did so far, hence the wait.
@@michadybczak4862 if you want a quick and easy way to turn gestures into any keyboard shortcut, you can use lib input gestures. it works regardless of what de or wm you use. but the downside is, there is no smooth inbetween things you can do with it. the action triggers after the gesture is done
One of the many many reasons I'm looking to get away from windows is the latest versions have been lacking in ability to manage windows and navigate through the menus in an easy and simple to understand sort of way. The more I watch your videos and others that show a visual overview of different Linux Distros has me wanting to setup a 2nd computer to have as my main Linux system. This refining and polish of an OS is what micro$oft should of been doing all these years. I'm a add Plasma to my Linux list of distros to try out.
4:33 - so much about not dragging things where you don't want them to be 😬But still, KDE is getting better and better, I like the progress, and the desktop is growing on me. I like it better than GNOME, even though GNOME feels more consistent and streamlined in many places. Thanks for the walkthrough!
Nice to see them doing some QOL patches. Also Mr. Nick... I'm on the preorder list for a new Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro Gen 9 AMD. It will be my first new computer in over 15 years that isn't a salvage/ hand-me-down.
Even though I am, or was, a star wars fan and definitely not a warhammer one I always hated that stormtrooper picture. Your set looks much better now 😄 The plants also help.
Define revolution and evolution. Semantic Versioning 2.0.0 Given a version number MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH, increment the: MAJOR version when you make incompatible API changes MINOR version when you add functionality in a backward compatible manner PATCH version when you make backward compatible bug fixes Additional labels for pre-release and build metadata are available as extensions to the MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH format.
@@smashed_penguin That's okay, if you define it this way. The most important rule to me is, be consistent. There are other ways to handle versioning too. Linux in example doesn't care about this at all. They change MAJOR 1.0 version just because the MINOR 0.1 version gets too high numbers, because (its an old classic joke) Linus don't know how to count higher than 20. So without any other reason they just bump it from Linux 5 to Linux 6.
@@Sezamn Right, but without having a definition of what a radical change means, its not a definition. In software development such exact explanations are needed. Otherwise everyone will interpret something different what the words mean.
Aww shame. My template folder fix didn't make the cut in this video. You can now place any file in the Templates folder and it will show up in the new file dialog if you are using KDE Frameworks 6.7 .
Plasma 6 series is what motivated me to switch to a rolling release distro after not wanting to bother with it for many years. So far I'm happy with my decision!
I use Plasma on a tablet. I think that their on screen keyboard, Maliit, really has to be updated. By now even GNOME has a better one. For example, Shift, Ctrl, Alt, Super, arrows and all the other keys you would need in a terminal are just non existent. if I want to do anything remotely advanced in a terminal I have to connect an external keyboard... But the graphics tablet changes are awesome for me!
Compared to what I've seen on Plasma 5.27 with X11, the drawing tablet settings pane looks like a downgrade. It used to give me a visual representation of the buttons and of my Intuos 3 tablet and it was laid out more neatly. But I haven't tried to use the new settings panel either, if it functionally gets the job done still I won't complain. Especially if it becomes universal, since my HS611 tablet lacks any form of GUI configuration. Though that purchasing mistake is why my laptop continues to be stuck to X11 for the forseeable future anyway.
@@thingsiplay well, yeah it's what a VM does. He just has that specific application be on top of the virtual machine window. He's running the plasma 6.1 on his normal PC and 6.2 on a VM. Edit: also, if you were more perceptive, you would notice that all across the video devices are virtual (for example 10:08 - Display: Virtual-1, 14:30 - VMMouse, 17:38 - Ram manufacturer: QEMU
I think mass adoption of a simple and "advanced" user desktop experience focus in settings GUIs would go a long way for leading new users into the Linux fold.
someone here knows how to apply transparency blur to dolphin without kvantum? I tried to use kvantum to do this, but when I apply the theme with dolphin transparency, there's some glitches when I start dolphin or resize the window
This is the reason I avoid LTS releases. Even Ubuntu base is too old and rigid for me. That is why I am using Manjaro for over 8 years now. I can get the new Plasma as soon as it gets to Arch stable repo by using Manjaro's unstable branch, which is east to switch too, whenever I want.
@@michadybczak4862 I used to like the latest but i dont want to maintain my system that much, i use a container when i need newer packages, i would probably have stayed on debian 12 if i could fix the AAC issue
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw Eh, I'll take that, too. At least with 24.10 being rolling it might be reasonably easy to upgrade it to 6.2. Moving 24.04 to 6.0 is practically impossible if you don't do it from a bare cli installer.
I just installed on a Lenovo PC with i5 and 16gb ram, and it works pretty well. There are a few buggy things, but EVERY distro I tried did something weird. Neon was the favorite choice, and so far, this Linux newb is doing okay. I need help with terminal and flatpak stuff, but I am getting it slowly. I guess coming in late was a good thing, if this is the newest and best version of KDE Neon.
Gotta say I really like the changes done. I'm not currently using KDE, but Gnome which I highly dislike on so many levels that I'm definitely going back to KDE near future, in addition to LMDE which I use in one computer, which is also very good, but not even remotely as feature rich.
Incase anyone experiences brightness reset issues on arch like i did you need to pacman -S power-profiles-daemon installed then you can control screen brightness from taskbar otherwise it always defaults to 100% screen brightness
When are they going to add more options to customize the mouse acceleration profile? The driver is capable of a lot more than just a speed slider and a "use acceleration" toggle.
Can one put the taskbar at the top area of the desktop, and then install "plank" to place at the bottom of desktop, in the current plasma desktop of KDE 6.2?
Accessibility features are good, but I still have a bug when virtual keyboard is not appearing on login screen. Also I think the option to sync scaling to SDDM not working as well (or I do something wrong, cause it should have been fixed in 6.1). Love these tiny improvements to user interface and so on... But it definitely need more. Huge thanks for KDE developers! And thanks for this video!
I think having a release cadence is such a huge overhead for some projects. They should stick to a date and just freeze the features and then release it if the product is good. 2 releases without no prior plan is just horrible. Release cadence is good for linux kernel where there are many stakeholders involved and a structured release cadence is important.
what bug is is exactly? My problem "was" in firefox i had "breeze" and in kde i have another mousetheme. Now with breeze deinstalled i have the right coursor. You mean that bug maybe?
De-Google your life and try Proton Mail for 1 euro or US Dollar for a month: go.getproton.me/SH1CS
Don't you have a disadvantage by people De-Googling their life?
I mean, UA-cam is from Google. Not hating, just wondering.
upgraded yesterday, turned on today and external screen is flickering constantly - downgraded all packages back to day before yesterday using arch wiki
Yep, that's an unsubscribe... 🙄
Honestly "Simple by default; Powerful when needed" is exactly how EVERY software should be made these days
So simple that basic UI fixes that should have been present or working eons ago are now working... maybe.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus hey, KDE is a huge project, and not everyone has UI figured out
Instead their simplified to obnoxiousness with power moved to the cloud somehow.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus What are you talking about: KDE Plasma had a good and complete UI for years.
Some things may not have been as polished and consistent as like MacOS (which is actually only polished on the surface considering how horrible my experience is each time I have to use it), but it's still completely usable and far more customizable than anything else you can think of.
So before being so sarcastic about their UI, find me anything that can compete against KDE on appearance, ease-of-use, customization, features and application suite, at the same time. Spoiler alert: there's nothing.
@@rigierish3807 both MacOS and Windows.
Updates on Linux: Plasma, Gnome, Mesa, and Wayland new versions? Awesome.
Updates on Windows: Shit! Not again. How i disable this?
Mostly...
Both can be turned around. Only very rarely, but it happens.
Only one of these updates is actually useful.
Wait, where did my context menu go?
Next windows 11 update will remove some preinstalled apps and slightly reorganize some stuff
personally I lump Gnome in the Windows camp when it comes to updates, but otherwise agreed
plasma is the reason I started daily driving linux in the first place, I'm glad its getting the attention it deserves!
"Daily driving"? It's not a car, right? Do you mean 'using'?
@@toby9999 That's a very common sentence to describe using Linux as your main system.
@@toby9999 Used in the techsphere. It means using on a daily basis. Any kind of technology, such as phones, OS's, etc.
Same, I had a chromebook and made it a chrultrabook but windows wouldn't really work Because it only had 16GB storage, so I switched to Kubuntu 22.10, I still have fond memories of that first boot up and that cozy little wallpaper
@@toby9999I’m sure you have said a lot of things meaning them metaphorically rather than literally
4:32 "just to avoid dragging things where you don't want them" while Dolphin proceeds to drag completely unrelated Home shortcut where Nick didn't want it to go.
lol I didn’t even notice that
Haha! Indeed, funny how KDE decided to grab item from the opposite side of the window. :D
Finally being able to set user picture with a crop function is the biggest news of the year. Cannot believe how many profile picture selectors (not just on kde) don't let you do that
Linux devs don't care about looks usually
@@sidgillespie5879 Again, not only a Linux thing
The "shake to locate mouse cursor effect": the most prominent feature of KDE in all review videos.😁
Same energy as the superior _“Wõbbly Windõws”_
@@prajhualak I kind of like the wobbly windows :D
Plasma has a lot of potential.
Potential? it's actually great.
it also has a lot of kinetic energy
Take my like and get out.
@@zedtrek Yeah I know, I mean so many features can (and will) be added.
It's already great. What do you mean potential?
'reduced grabbiness.. just to avoid dragging things where you don't want to be'
*immediately drags something where he doesn't want it to be*
I laughed so hard. Peak comedic timing. TY KDE
I'm glad KDE team shifted their manpower more towards bug fixing early this year. Because let's be real no DE is touching it in terms of features for many years anyways
@FalFan-sc Agreed
Gnome apps ecosystem is better
@FalFan-sc same. I hope the icons arrive soon, they are so cool
@FalFan-sc hey tere is an ongoing Breeze theme revamp and it seems like it will do alot of good ... they even talked about svg icons for everything not just the mouse
I just use the meta key when I want to grab windows. Doesn't matter where I click, it still works. Really handy.
Same. Meta + left click grabs the window whereas Meta + right click allows to resize windows easily, without having to reach to the window edges or corners.
When I discovered that in GNOME is also like that, my life changes a lot.
Thank god they finally fixed the "open with" dialog! That was a long time coming.
KDE has always been the power desktop option for Linux. And it seems it is continuing down that road with v6, as it should. I think the final v5 is great. But v6 looks awesome. Look forward to using it at some point in the future.
Through all it's releases it managed to keep the same feeling when using it. For me, at least. Most probably because it kept essential features in the same place. E.g. clipboard manager is essentially the same icon in the same spot ever since I started using KDE back in 2006.
Great idea to include the before/after comparisons.
Yes, excellent sense and taste.
17:20 That's actually ingenious! I have an Intel Arc powered laptop and it's dGPU constantly is powered as the i915 driver can't turn it off because of the Alchemist vRAM bug.
Currently, the only work around is running a custom script to analyse the system hardware, locate and then unbind the dGPU.
Then, run a secondary script to rescan the system to rebind it again.
Previously, I was going to equip those scrips to the power profiles so when it's on battery, it unbinds the A730m dGPU, and then when I plug it in, it reactivates the dGPU. But this is exactly what I needed! With this, a simple Super+PGUP and Super+PGDown can be bound to handle bind and unbind on the fly!
There are Arc laptops?
@@DarkVortex97 Yes. Mine is an LAPAC71H Intel Nuc X15 Arc w/ a730m dGPU
Thank you for covering drawing tablet support as best as you could. Lack of support here meant I had a terrible time on wayland compared to X11... so I'll need to give Plasma 6.2 a test run again.
Running Fedora 41 Beta KDE on my Surface Go 3, which is my travel/meeting/test system 6.2 dropped there a few days ago. It is nice and smooth even on this system, which is not a power horse by any means. I love the focus on stability and QOL.
Fedora Rawhide both laptop and Desktop KDE and the stability and smoothness makes using anything else a deal-breaker, so I stick to KDE.
Linux just makes the sf go line ups much faster tbf. I've the same experience with Kde on the go 2
How is the touch input in KDE? Is it polished enough?
@@ShinigamiDa It works better than I expected and quite well. The included touch keyboard works well, when I don't have my external connected as well.
I don't know, but I think it's valid we're getting 3 releases this year, as we only got 1 release last year.
Your new "studio" looks very cozy. anyone that knows me, knows I'm a huge KDE fan, so these changes are very welcome.
4:30 if you hold Meta, you can click and drag from anywhere. Super useful
I think the middle click to scroll 14:34 feature is going to be more useful for attracting windows users than you would expect. Depending on how it's implemented.
As a windows user I got severely annoyed I didn't have this, especially when trudging through large documents or long articles and there was no system wide implementation that lead to a similar feature. Hopefully it's implemented like in windows and not the crappy way you can find on forums with binding to ximput
Couldn't agree more!
This has been one of my biggest "nitpicks" and this implementation is even better than the windows one (at least for my personal taste). It works similar to you manually hovering and clicking the scrollbar and then going up or down, but "automatically" when you click the middle mouse button. I would like some "feedback", like the cursor/pointer having a new icon when scrolling like this. Besides that I am really glad that I saw this video, otherwise I would have miss this.
KDE Plasma is great DE ❤❤❤
In plasma 6, a lot of broken things are getting fixed & improved (except for Latte Dock 💔)
I found that the kvantum theme isn't quite useful. The global theme works fine. If it's a dark themes, the search fields, menus in settings, LibreOffice menus get black hole dark. I need to fix it by changing application style, plasma style, window decoration & then it becomes good.
After applying theme, the colours of folders in dolphin are the same for all eg blue for breeze, green for other but individual folder colour can't be changed or made different with theme. The home folders are of different colours.
Still plasma rocks (except for default panel which is boring)
I'm loving Plasma! It just keeps getting better!
I would love to see an accessibility feature for a black and white or greyscale mode.
That's very nice. KDE Plasma is progressing a lot.
I love the new low-key production style videos where your sitting down in front of a mic. Seems more natural
Except when the viewpoint covers his talking mouth, leaving his forehead, hair, cheeks, and nose exposed.
Super+V is a thing? How did I not know that?
Yeah, I just learned it right now as well. This is super useful!
You also can increase it up to 2048 copied things
yeah, just like windows, they both provide the same function.
Yep. It works on Microsoft Windows too.
Somehow it doesn't work here, even if I set the shortcut. Still on 6.1 though
These are all very good changes. Plasma now feels much more polished
Finally finished my 9950x 96gb ecc RM52 build and started my transition to Linux as my daily with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed at home. It seems its a good time to switch.
I so appreciate text and icons being a first class option as well as the bevy of options there by default.
Even though I've been using KDE for quite a while now, I still leave the welcome screen on for updates (when KDE gets upgraded from 6.1 to 6.2). That way I can easily see whats new. To me, KDEs functionality just makes more sense intuitively than a lot of the other DEs and one reason I started daily driving Linux in favour of Windows.
As a graduate CompSci student, KDE Plasma 6 with Arch Linux is the best DE/OS combo I have used. And I have used MacOS, Hyprland WM and Windows. Nothing comes close, at least for my workflow. Plasma gets a chef's kiss *
It's amazing. I am moving from GNOME soon to KDE.
This KDE update is really lit!
It now finally works like you would expect, if you unplug an external monitor, that it switches back to the laptop screen - which never worked before under Wayland. So you had to manually toggle to the laptop screen and then unplug.
Also: I'm surprised that it can change the brightness of my external monitor, which uses DVI-I. So I'm using an HDMI to DVI-I cable, and it works still flawlessly to adjust the brightness inside the monitor's settings. I didn't even know that was possible. Windows certainly could not do this.
I spent my first few linux months in xfce4, came to plasma at version 6 and it's been great!
Welcome to the Plasma side :)
@@code8986 thx, I like xface too, but it would have to be substantially faster than plasma and it just isn't. Also, it requires a lot of work to customize properly, where plasma just works out of the box, in my experience.
@@AsgerJon It's funny, I had pretty much the same thought when I started to try XFCE (after having tried Plasma): "I'll give up some features (and yes, eye candy) if XFCE turns out to be faster and/or to use less memory than Plasma", but it didn't materially (if at all) do either of those. Plasma is the best balance between the features and resource efficiency that I want.
@@code8986 Indeed, but imagine using windows where updates are about showing ads, forcing ai and general scumbaggery.
@@AsgerJon No, I don't want to imagine that and you can't make me... 🤣...I'd use ANY desktop environment on Linux before I'd use Windows! I ditched Windows years ago for exactly those reasons you mentioned!!
finally status and notifications getting the needed overhaul from ginormous icons to something easier to look at
Middleclick to autoscroll is honestly a bigger deal than anything in v6 to me. Which I suppose says more about me than anything else.
You're not the only one! Besides me, I've seen other comments mention this too.
the Plasma boys & girls are doing great work making the UX into something that's almost on par with Windows or Mac. I've been using Windows 11 of late - on several dual-booted desktops and a Windows laptop - and Windows still feels more slick as regards speed and reactivity of the UI, but it's still a combination of disparate styles from various previous versions and is nowhere near as customizable as Plasma (but then what is?). KDE Plasma still needs some polishing, not least around the script-based aspects of the UI which I believe are responsible for some of the issues I still see (using 6.1 currently) with flickering on redraws, font sizes being dragged out and so forth (although I'm not seeing that so much of late). I'm waiting (patiently) for a snap-to-grid aspect when arranging widgets on the desktop - I have several in a column and they will not occupy the same space nor abide to the size I try to select for them. Panel edit mode still needs some work, but it's more-or-less there (for my needs at least). Good job everybody, including Nick!
Plasma is getting better day by day. I really like that graphic tablet feature of how all of its settings are baked in the default settings app. We dont need to install a separate app for every device. Also, like tge ability to control flatpak permissions.
When my mom allows me to use my computer again, I'll definitely install a Linux distro.
Plasma is the best and KDE Neon is great now I've configured it properly. Next distro is Tuxedo if this ever dies!
Nice updates, and I like the new default wallpaper.
i like that "feels like" weather app feature. would have used different analogy, its more like when its 16c but with the wind added, it feels much worse than that, like 10c or something.
I recently switched to plasma, at first it was very confusing but after some customization and watching UA-cam videos about customization and usability, I am quite impressed and won't go back to my other desktop environment any time soon
5:03 this is what I wanted for so long. Thanks KDE
12:20 maybe they can split it off into 2 rows. Leave the icons that usually show up wherever they are, and if there's an update, add them below without moving the other icons (to help with muscle memory). Sad virtual desktop rearrangement didn't make in :p
New Plasma user here. Interesting stuff.
Those WH40K boxes in the background!
P.S.
For the Emprah!!!
Being colorblind it's awesome that a lot of software has dark mode and color correction now. This increases performance and costs me less time to tweak everything for colors :)
Smooth scrolling is evil. Glad I haven't updated yet to 6, now I can :)
Would be nice if plasma grouped keyboard shortcuts then sort alphabetically rather than sorting them alphabetically, regardless of what the shortcut affects. Would make customisation a lot easier.
I am a GNOME user but I am increasingly attracted to Plasma. I wouldn't mind if Fedora decided to make it the default DE for Workstation
i use openSUSE Tumbleweed it's kde 6.1.5 by default and it's very good distro
Fedora is basically the GNOME flagship distro :-)
@@new-lvivbut i use fedora KDE and everything is just smooth
With some applications, GNOME is the worst desktop to use due to the no client side decorations rule. Vegas Pro for instance. GNOME make some very strange decisions and hold back Wayland development for no good reason.
Plasma 6 is very nice to use by default, while GNOME needs extensions and I am still not happy using it.
@@night_fiend6 you might be true with the lack of decoration in some windows, but GNOME with no extensions is the intended way to use it by the developers. I use it with no extensions at all and for me it's the best experience I've ever had.
Great additions! I'm looking forward to more HDR settings, like calibrate.
HDR has actually been removed in 6.2 if you use NVIDIA hardware
I will move to Plasma 6 when with Ubuntu 26.04 base, most probably. 5.27 is feature rich enough for doing the work so far.
If I survive, of course. Greetings from Ukraine.
I like this kind of release preview. I don't recall how it looked earlier, but seeing more of your actual experience, rather than some public release video exceptions, is more engaging. Or maybe something else has changed, but somehow, this is a much better format. Also, seeing old and new version aside that you can interact with is incredibly helpful.
The best Plasma release video so far! Thanks!
Thanks for the video Nick !
Also, im an imp and skiz viewer. And that looks like a ghost orb 9:49😊
Still waiting for touchpad gestures to be customizable, this is the only thing preventing me from using Plasma on my laptop unfortunately 😢
I use plasma with its awkward 4 fingers gestures, and it is not a great experience, gnome does that better.
Not a deal breaker for me, but I would love to be able to add a gesture like on Windows like scroll in the side for brightness or volume. One thing that bugs me is that in overview you can't use three fingers to focus on the desktop that you have selected, which exists on gnome.
@@proptanz3377use libinputgestures
I'm waiting for this too, but it's not a problem to use inbuilt gestures for me. Still, it would be nice to have. As far I remember, no one wants to work on it. All agree it would be great to have, but someone has to step up and no one did so far, hence the wait.
@@michadybczak4862 if you want a quick and easy way to turn gestures into any keyboard shortcut, you can use lib input gestures. it works regardless of what de or wm you use. but the downside is, there is no smooth inbetween things you can do with it. the action triggers after the gesture is done
One of the many many reasons I'm looking to get away from windows is the latest versions have been lacking in ability to manage windows and navigate through the menus in an easy and simple to understand sort of way.
The more I watch your videos and others that show a visual overview of different Linux Distros has me wanting to setup a 2nd computer to have as my main Linux system.
This refining and polish of an OS is what micro$oft should of been doing all these years. I'm a add Plasma to my Linux list of distros to try out.
4:33 - so much about not dragging things where you don't want them to be 😬But still, KDE is getting better and better, I like the progress, and the desktop is growing on me. I like it better than GNOME, even though GNOME feels more consistent and streamlined in many places. Thanks for the walkthrough!
Nice to see them doing some QOL patches. Also Mr. Nick... I'm on the preorder list for a new Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro Gen 9 AMD. It will be my first new computer in over 15 years that isn't a salvage/ hand-me-down.
Congrats! Hope it lasts!
Even though I am, or was, a star wars fan and definitely not a warhammer one I always hated that stormtrooper picture. Your set looks much better now 😄
The plants also help.
Thank YOU.
1.0 updates should be for revolutions
0.1 updates should be for evolutions
Define revolution and evolution.
Semantic Versioning 2.0.0
Given a version number MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH, increment the:
MAJOR version when you make incompatible API changes
MINOR version when you add functionality in a backward compatible manner
PATCH version when you make backward compatible bug fixes
Additional labels for pre-release and build metadata are available as extensions to the MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH format.
@@thingsiplay I'd also consider major UI & UX changes a revolution, even if there aren't major compatibility changes made under the hood.
@@smashed_penguin That's okay, if you define it this way. The most important rule to me is, be consistent. There are other ways to handle versioning too.
Linux in example doesn't care about this at all. They change MAJOR 1.0 version just because the MINOR 0.1 version gets too high numbers, because (its an old classic joke) Linus don't know how to count higher than 20. So without any other reason they just bump it from Linux 5 to Linux 6.
@@thingsiplay
A revolution refers to a sudden, radical, or complete change, while evolution is a gradual, progressive change that occurs over time.
@@Sezamn Right, but without having a definition of what a radical change means, its not a definition. In software development such exact explanations are needed. Otherwise everyone will interpret something different what the words mean.
Aww shame. My template folder fix didn't make the cut in this video. You can now place any file in the Templates folder and it will show up in the new file dialog if you are using KDE Frameworks 6.7 .
Plasma 6 series is what motivated me to switch to a rolling release distro after not wanting to bother with it for many years. So far I'm happy with my decision!
Can't wait till I start using Linux, they've come such a long way!
SVG cursors are great. The only thing I require now is to have those mirrored (Because I use a left handed mouse).
You can overwrite the `default` file with `right_ptr` in the /usr/share/breeze_cursors/cursors dir. Mirroring all cursors would be more tricky though.
10:12 Can you now also change the colors/night setting for individual displays? That either eas not present before, or did not work at all.
Awesome! Can't wait for it! :)
I use Plasma on a tablet. I think that their on screen keyboard, Maliit, really has to be updated. By now even GNOME has a better one. For example, Shift, Ctrl, Alt, Super, arrows and all the other keys you would need in a terminal are just non existent. if I want to do anything remotely advanced in a terminal I have to connect an external keyboard... But the graphics tablet changes are awesome for me!
can't wait for it to come to tuxedo :)
Compared to what I've seen on Plasma 5.27 with X11, the drawing tablet settings pane looks like a downgrade.
It used to give me a visual representation of the buttons and of my Intuos 3 tablet and it was laid out more neatly.
But I haven't tried to use the new settings panel either, if it functionally gets the job done still I won't complain.
Especially if it becomes universal, since my HS611 tablet lacks any form of GUI configuration.
Though that purchasing mistake is why my laptop continues to be stuck to X11 for the forseeable future anyway.
How do you display and run Plasma 6.1 AND 6.2 in the same installation side by side? What witchcraft are you using?
probably just a VM
@@Sezamn No, its not, you can see that throughout the entire video. Applications are open like native side by side when he makes comparisons.
Probably the host's window is made sticky.
@@thingsiplay well, yeah it's what a VM does. He just has that specific application be on top of the virtual machine window. He's running the plasma 6.1 on his normal PC and 6.2 on a VM.
Edit: also, if you were more perceptive, you would notice that all across the video devices are virtual (for example 10:08 - Display: Virtual-1, 14:30 - VMMouse, 17:38 - Ram manufacturer: QEMU
@@Sezamn Good catch! I wasn't very attentive. Also thanks for pointing to the exact places.
How did you make the menu transparent?
I think mass adoption of a simple and "advanced" user desktop experience focus in settings GUIs would go a long way for leading new users into the Linux fold.
someone here knows how to apply transparency blur to dolphin without kvantum? I tried to use kvantum to do this, but when I apply the theme with dolphin transparency, there's some glitches when I start dolphin or resize the window
Me: Wallowing in Plasma 5.x under Debian 12
Waiting for Tuxedo OS 4.0 to drop mint with cinnamon..
i was the same but bluetooth AAC frustrated me enough to switch to fedora
This is the reason I avoid LTS releases. Even Ubuntu base is too old and rigid for me. That is why I am using Manjaro for over 8 years now. I can get the new Plasma as soon as it gets to Arch stable repo by using Manjaro's unstable branch, which is east to switch too, whenever I want.
@@michadybczak4862 I used to like the latest but i dont want to maintain my system that much, i use a container when i need newer packages, i would probably have stayed on debian 12 if i could fix the AAC issue
i use cachy os
I hope they didn't remove my infinite size cursor, when I am bored I just shake the mouse until the size is the same as the screen ^^
That middle mouse scroll though 🤤
I like that you're showcasing even the smaller changes
Fingers crossed kubuntu 24.10 includes it.
they probably won't. Kubuntu 24.10 will release in a week or two and the beta release notes say it will ship with Plasma 6.1
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw Eh, I'll take that, too. At least with 24.10 being rolling it might be reasonably easy to upgrade it to 6.2. Moving 24.04 to 6.0 is practically impossible if you don't do it from a bare cli installer.
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw This aged like milk, at the same rate of milk.
I just installed on a Lenovo PC with i5 and 16gb ram, and it works pretty well. There are a few buggy things, but EVERY distro I tried did something weird. Neon was the favorite choice, and so far, this Linux newb is doing okay. I need help with terminal and flatpak stuff, but I am getting it slowly. I guess coming in late was a good thing, if this is the newest and best version of KDE Neon.
Gotta say I really like the changes done. I'm not currently using KDE, but Gnome which I highly dislike on so many levels that I'm definitely going back to KDE near future, in addition to LMDE which I use in one computer, which is also very good, but not even remotely as feature rich.
Steam Deck uses KDE. It's pretty good.
Thank you.
Incase anyone experiences brightness reset issues on arch like i did you need to pacman -S power-profiles-daemon installed then you can control screen brightness from taskbar otherwise it always defaults to 100% screen brightness
When are they going to add more options to customize the mouse acceleration profile? The driver is capable of a lot more than just a speed slider and a "use acceleration" toggle.
Can one put the taskbar at the top area of the desktop, and then install "plank" to place at the bottom of desktop, in the current plasma desktop of KDE 6.2?
SVG cursor for shake cursor does work on my Plasma 6.1 install already.
peace be upon you sir from me
Accessibility features are good, but I still have a bug when virtual keyboard is not appearing on login screen. Also I think the option to sync scaling to SDDM not working as well (or I do something wrong, cause it should have been fixed in 6.1).
Love these tiny improvements to user interface and so on... But it definitely need more. Huge thanks for KDE developers! And thanks for this video!
how are all the windows so transparent? I like that.
I think having a release cadence is such a huge overhead for some projects. They should stick to a date and just freeze the features and then release it if the product is good. 2 releases without no prior plan is just horrible. Release cadence is good for linux kernel where there are many stakeholders involved and a structured release cadence is important.
Well explained
Ok, where is the plasma core that they said was going to have all the components isolated?
Besides Pop!_OS with cosmic KDE plasma are the most interesting DEs on Linux imho. I do like that Zorin OS thing too though.
Hopefully they fixed system notifications sounds not working on some machines.
Spetacular... I love Plasma
im guessing still no fix for the multiple cursor theme bug
what bug is is exactly? My problem "was" in firefox i had "breeze" and in kde i have another mousetheme. Now with breeze deinstalled i have the right coursor. You mean that bug maybe?
@@PersonausdemAll yeah but i dont think it only happened with firefox. even between desktop and kde
@@alex_oiman Thanks, i didnt knew it was a bug
They should not change the grabbyness of the window!
That slow camera drift at 15:25
Cinematic or a tiny earthquake... U decide 😅