I feel like there's a bicycle repair shop in rural Wales or something that's still turning out Welrod parts without really knowing it. They just get a letter with a crown on it every now and then telling them to make several of those things with holes in them that they have a special jig for making.
I like to think that there's an alternate universe somewhere where the requirement 'must not be identifiable as a gunshot from over 50 yrds' led to the welrod becoming a gun that doesn't makes shots quieter but makes them sound like a goose honking or an old timey car horn or somesuch
Actually, not far off there. I have read aricled in the past about the significance of changing the "pitch" as well as reducing the volume. To effectively achieve a more "organic" noise, like a tree branch falling and hitting a forest floor, or the like.
@timodonnell6870 challenge humorously accepted. Maybe a duck call muzzle break on a crosman 2240 CO2 airgun? That would be a hilarious proof of concept. Would probably need an expansion chamber, though, so it didn't sound like a cane toad getting run over by a bicycle.
Aside from it just being a very pragmatic thing of "It works, so we don't care what it looks like", I personally enjoy the poetry of using very effective yet crude looking plumbing against an enemy who had a penchant for over-engineering things 😁
I was stationed in England for nine years. While there I was able to get a shotgun certificate. Once when I went into a shooting shop to bet some shells, I noticed an odd looking shotgun with a very large diameter barrel. I asked the shop owner about it; it was a .410 single shot break action shotgun known as a "groundskeeper's gun". It was [integral] silenced. He asked if I was interested in purchasing it. Seems if you can own a firearm in the UK, you can get a silencer. They even encourage it.
Moderated shotguns are indeed fairly common, at least compared to in other countries! Shotgun moderators are over-the-counter items as long as you have a shotgun certificate, and shotguns with a built-in moddy aren't treated any differently to a normal shotgun. Rifle moderators have more controls, but might end up being taken off the licensing system soon which will be very handy!
@@ApurtureSci Regulating suppressors/moderators is dumb they are encouraged here (NZ) for health and safety reasons and noise control reasons every hunter I know here has a suppressor on their rifle ! As someone that once got deafened by a shot when hunting with a mate that did not have a suppressor years ago I wish they were more common back then.
@@XavierLignieres It's the same here, but you still need 'permission' first to buy rifles moderators. Never known anyone not be granted this though, which is why they're thinking of removing them for the licensing system altogether
Flip side is that if you live in Scotland you need a licence from the police to own an air rifle, renewable every 5 years. When I renewed it 2 years ago they even went to the effort of speaking to the people I'd listed as character references.
@@rockets4kids The trigger is on the wrong side for a lefty. Although, I suppose you could push the trigger with your right hand if using a two handed grip. Be a bit awkward though.
This was made back in the days when the standard manual of arms called for the left (support) hand to always remain on the forestock of the weapon, and the right (dominant) hand to manipulate charging handles, reload the chamber, exchange magazines, etc. The direct opposite of today's doctrine where the dominant hand is basically never supposed to leave the grip eg; ready to fire position; and the support hand is used to reload etc instead. The "old way" persisted from basically the dawn of "modern" BP firearms in the mid 18th century right up through the 1970s and didn't start to change until the '80s. That's why all the old bolt pistols, which were designed to be handled like small rifles, had their bolt handles on the "wrong" side for a right-handed person by today's doctrine. Same with many older assault rifles like the AK having their charging handles on the "wrong" side for right handed people. They were all just designed for the common manual of arms doctrine of the era.
The "sensual" assesment of loudness has a lot of sense since it is not only about the objective volume (measured in dB) but also about the frequencies, which are felt differently over the distance. Beacause of that, for example, it is harder to hear an M1 Abrams tank than Leo2 at the distance since it has a higher frequency turbine - which is louder at near distance but quiter at longer than bottom-like sound of a piston engine.
Because high pitch sounds tend to lose energy faster over distance than lower frequency sounds. On the other hand high pitch sounds tend to draw attention more than low pitch sounds because they feel louder to the human ears.
I am just reading a book "Memories of Britain's Past". In one of the many interesting articles the author describes how the mass unemployment of the Thirties, closely followed by the mass mobilisation of WWII, resulted in a wartime dearth of people skilled in technical manufacturing. This could explain the crude finishing of many British weapons of WWII. However, despite this the unskilled people thrown into the breech accomplished wonders from weapons that had been very rapidly designed and tested. I salute them: they rose to the challenge.
well, someone like my mum ended up working in the underground Plessey factory in East London (part of the London Underground system, the machine shops were in the tunnels the trains run in ), using machine tools to make bomb fuses and later to machine bomb casings for the penetrator units. Before the war she worked in a pet shop.......
Can we just take a quick moment to appreciate Ian's INCREDIBLE ability to memorize and relay very nuanced, specific information about basically every firearm ever made?, and within days of completely unrelated arms? Even with a prompt, script, and weeks of research, I couldn't pull this off. No one else on earth could do this.
Amazing to think that now this is a sole survivor artifact and handled so very carefully, but when it was made, you can see rough filing and punch marks etc.
Interesting you point that out, because yeah something thats always facinated me with old guns is that they where often tools for many decades before someone got the idea they where collectable.
Ah, this takes me back. Years ago I was curious about how silent and effective the Welrod was, and my search for answers led me to find Gun Jesus, and shortly afterwards I had subscribed and started binging 😁
Its beautiful ! Ever since the mkII and the modern "vet gun" ive been wanting to see you get your hands on the mkI. Congrats Ian! Such a cool piece of history! Hope you had a catch up with Jonathan, and you're both well!
So, I know a lot of people say that the internet listens to you and if you talk about something then you start seeing adverts or videos etc of it… but unless Facebook can read minds then it seems that coincidences are just more common than you expect. I say this because today I was thinking about the Welrod for the first time in years, and this video pops up.
This is really cool, I never saw a Mk I and it was really interesting hearing about the trials and competition. Along with the technical experimentation. This is even more special having recently watched a movie on the SoE called (appreciately enough) The ministry for ungentlemanly warfare❤
I wonder if a self healing foam baffle would work better than rubber wipe . Like the foam for new targets . Least get a longer life . Love the logic on the design . I fancy it 😅
As the owner of a Hi-Standard HDM, I can confirm they're incredible pistols.... But yeah, .22lr isn't the best for what I'll just call "anti-personnel" use vs 9mm or even .32. Although if it were me, I'd take the Hi-Standard with it's magazine vs the Welrod's single shot + awkward manual reload. .22 can be plenty deadly with good shot placement and 7 or 8 rounds to play with. The CIA and US Army agree with me: *Hi-Standard HDMs are **_still_** in US inventory to this day,* though admittedly only as mission specific, special request items and not standard issue (they've been long outclassed by modern suppression tech, although not by as much as you might think!).
I know it is going to be a good day when I see a new video from Ian. Just finishing my second cup of coffee when I saw a new video and like always, I learned something and had a smile on my face as it ended. Thank you so much, even us old farts love learning, it keeps out ancient brains hitting on all 8.
I have to say, the guy who was responsible for this (and several other "dirty work" items) dying by falling into a prototype suppressor for a damn jet engine is one badass ending.
Someone needs to start making fully functional replicas of these rare/experimental/prototype firearms and test them out to see them working. I would love to see a fully functional Landstad...
I know this wouldn't have happened even if the Mk I had been adopted, but I love the mental picture of an SOE agent and/or commando carrying a pocketful of little bitty stripper clips holding five rounds of .32 ACP apiece.
I believe (though I may stand to be corrected) that 'Q' merely stood for Quartermaster and in the books by Ian Fleming, the role of 'Q' was never actually given a name. The films took the name of the armourer mentioned in Doctor No, a Major Boothroyd, and assumed he was 'Q'. Now IF actually knew a Geoffrey Boothroyd, who was a firearms expert in Glasgow and it appears named the armourer after him.
@@jcorbett9620you are correct. The Q character Bond fans are familiar with is an invention of later non-Fleming novels and the films, like inspired by Charles Fraser-Smith (also of SOE gadget fame).
My most sincere congratulations Ian, well done. This video about the Welrod MKI was very enlighting. The Welrod is truly a very exotic gun to look at. Fun fact: besides appearing in WW2 shooters the Welrod also appears in Insurgency: Sandstorm as a weapon of the Insurgency and can be customized with all accessories.
Ian. Can you please do more video's on more Turkish Mauser rifles bcs I am very interested in them. They are very over looked but they are very cool to learn about
The Welrod always put me in mind of the DS (Deep Sleep) guns from Logan's Run (both the 1976 film & 1978 TV series). I thought they were so cool. Looking at them with an adults eye they still seem similar, though the DS gun had gouts of green flame coming from the front when fired, not very stealthy.
weird... this one does a better job at passing for not a gun with the short magazine and the thumb trigger, but then they used a bolt handle that looks super gun-like! how much sense does it make anyways to have a bolt handle on a pistol in the same position as on a rifle? I feel like you would want to use some arrangement in which the bolt handle is repositioned for left hand use. but I suppose that depends on how used the user is to shooting bolt action rifles.
Major Quentin Reeves is possibly the inspiration for Q, James Bond’s armourer. Ian Fleming worked in British Intelligence during WWII and may have been familiar with Quentin’s work.
I wonder how quiet they could get things with modern suppressor tech. For that matter, it'd be cool to make the rubber baffles more easily swapped by using a tri-lug connection for the front piece. For the whole unit would be cool too. If you could disassemble it by hand in 2 seconds it would be especially effective for espionage.
I can see why the trigger and magazine were updated for the mk2, but I *really* like that bolt action, as the mechanism of the later versions always seemed cumbersome to reload quickly. I suspect they weren't as concerned about that as they were about concealability and materials cost, but I think there's a version of this I would prefer that melds the bolt action on this with the improvements on later models.
I’m kind of obsessed with the idea of something like this being made to be shot in the “cheek pistol” style. Maybe a ring at the end would flip into place for a poor man’s raised red dot. With a trigger like this, maybe you could forgo the grip altogether. Anyone got ideas about how the magazine could work if we wanted to keep the thing more concealable, and less pistol shaped?
This as quite weird to watch and listen to as we found out a few years ago that my late uncle wasn't in the 'special commando's' as he tended to write of his WW2 history, but was in fact in SOE........ He was involved in Yugoslavia with the Partisans, dropped behind the lines in Italy to facilitate sabotage and the 'removal' of high ranking officers. He was also dropped into Sicily the day before the invasion to 'deal with' senior Germans at their HQ...... Odd to think that he quite likely used a Welrod in the field!
My Grandfather worked in development and engineering for SOE at Station 9 where the Welrod was designed. This is all we know about his wartime service, he never spoke of any of the details of the work he did.
I feel like there's a bicycle repair shop in rural Wales or something that's still turning out Welrod parts without really knowing it. They just get a letter with a crown on it every now and then telling them to make several of those things with holes in them that they have a special jig for making.
lmao
Why is that just Kingsman but set in Caerphilly
Llewylrod
They unknowingly copied the French and their CSRG Chauchat with the bicycle shop 😅
bloke in a shed, how britain does technology
I like to think that there's an alternate universe somewhere where the requirement 'must not be identifiable as a gunshot from over 50 yrds' led to the welrod becoming a gun that doesn't makes shots quieter but makes them sound like a goose honking or an old timey car horn or somesuch
Whoopie cushion of death
Actually, not far off there. I have read aricled in the past about the significance of changing the "pitch" as well as reducing the volume. To effectively achieve a more "organic" noise, like a tree branch falling and hitting a forest floor, or the like.
@timodonnell6870 challenge humorously accepted. Maybe a duck call muzzle break on a crosman 2240 CO2 airgun? That would be a hilarious proof of concept. Would probably need an expansion chamber, though, so it didn't sound like a cane toad getting run over by a bicycle.
My father acquired his Wellrod when he joined No.3 Commando. He was quite annoyed when they wanted it back.
“Oh bother, I seem to have lost it…”
Sorry sarge, me welrod went MIA,
Theft from the taxpayer is only acceptable when rich white guys do it.
Q branch is not amused
It would have been a fantastic momento
I still recall the other Welrod video, which came out what, over 7 years ago, if i recall right... Didn`t expect this little treat from days of old...
Churchill: How many of our guns will be toobs wielded in someone's garage out of old plumbing?
The ministry: Yes
*welded
The Germans may have had superior boxes, but we had superior toobs
Aside from it just being a very pragmatic thing of "It works, so we don't care what it looks like", I personally enjoy the poetry of using very effective yet crude looking plumbing against an enemy who had a penchant for over-engineering things 😁
Toob! Lol
Nowadays in England I hear you need a loicense to do plumbing on your own sink.
I was stationed in England for nine years. While there I was able to get a shotgun certificate. Once when I went into a shooting shop to bet some shells, I noticed an odd looking shotgun with a very large diameter barrel. I asked the shop owner about it; it was a .410 single shot break action shotgun known as a "groundskeeper's gun". It was [integral] silenced. He asked if I was interested in purchasing it. Seems if you can own a firearm in the UK, you can get a silencer. They even encourage it.
Moderated shotguns are indeed fairly common, at least compared to in other countries! Shotgun moderators are over-the-counter items as long as you have a shotgun certificate, and shotguns with a built-in moddy aren't treated any differently to a normal shotgun. Rifle moderators have more controls, but might end up being taken off the licensing system soon which will be very handy!
@@ApurtureSci Regulating suppressors/moderators is dumb they are encouraged here (NZ) for health and safety reasons and noise control reasons every hunter I know here has a suppressor on their rifle ! As someone that once got deafened by a shot when hunting with a mate that did not have a suppressor years ago I wish they were more common back then.
@@XavierLignieres It's the same here, but you still need 'permission' first to buy rifles moderators. Never known anyone not be granted this though, which is why they're thinking of removing them for the licensing system altogether
Check out "Hushpower" guns. Quite popular!
Flip side is that if you live in Scotland you need a licence from the police to own an air rifle, renewable every 5 years.
When I renewed it 2 years ago they even went to the effort of speaking to the people I'd listed as character references.
Indeed, a quite well made rod
I'll make a homemade one with blackpowder
That’s what she said 😂😂😂
This channel has always been a staple for weapon nerds and has never slouched in quality or quantity.
If ever a right handed shooter would want a left handed bolt, it'd be on this thing.
Finally a gun for Ian!
@@rockets4kids The trigger is on the wrong side for a lefty.
Although, I suppose you could push the trigger with your right hand if using a two handed grip. Be a bit awkward though.
Really any bolt action pistol like the remington xp100
This was made back in the days when the standard manual of arms called for the left (support) hand to always remain on the forestock of the weapon, and the right (dominant) hand to manipulate charging handles, reload the chamber, exchange magazines, etc. The direct opposite of today's doctrine where the dominant hand is basically never supposed to leave the grip eg; ready to fire position; and the support hand is used to reload etc instead. The "old way" persisted from basically the dawn of "modern" BP firearms in the mid 18th century right up through the 1970s and didn't start to change until the '80s. That's why all the old bolt pistols, which were designed to be handled like small rifles, had their bolt handles on the "wrong" side for a right-handed person by today's doctrine. Same with many older assault rifles like the AK having their charging handles on the "wrong" side for right handed people. They were all just designed for the common manual of arms doctrine of the era.
The "sensual" assesment of loudness has a lot of sense since it is not only about the objective volume (measured in dB) but also about the frequencies, which are felt differently over the distance. Beacause of that, for example, it is harder to hear an M1 Abrams tank than Leo2 at the distance since it has a higher frequency turbine - which is louder at near distance but quiter at longer than bottom-like sound of a piston engine.
That's some *serious* thinking, if intentional!
Because high pitch sounds tend to lose energy faster over distance than lower frequency sounds. On the other hand high pitch sounds tend to draw attention more than low pitch sounds because they feel louder to the human ears.
Great memories of the Welrod from Medal of Honor: Rising Sun. It could one tap enemies in multiplayer death match and was an absolute menace!
Ya was a menace with that in that game they would never know where u were and you just had to keep moving and taking shots when u had em
That's what I thought of too as soon as I saw the thumbnail.
I waited YEARS for this video, I'm so happy to see a MkI
Nice video, and the Royal Armouries are to be commended for letting the right guy into their stash.
More like letting the right "Stache" into their stash.
You would have to check my pockets.
The name Wellrod is a saint amongst the end users.
Thank you Ian for finding the Mk1.
I applaud you 🇬🇧
I am just reading a book "Memories of Britain's Past". In one of the many interesting articles the author describes how the mass unemployment of the Thirties, closely followed by the mass mobilisation of WWII, resulted in a wartime dearth of people skilled in technical manufacturing. This could explain the crude finishing of many British weapons of WWII. However, despite this the unskilled people thrown into the breech accomplished wonders from weapons that had been very rapidly designed and tested.
I salute them: they rose to the challenge.
It worse now
well, someone like my mum ended up working in the underground Plessey factory in East London (part of the London Underground system, the machine shops were in the tunnels the trains run in ), using machine tools to make bomb fuses and later to machine bomb casings for the penetrator units.
Before the war she worked in a pet shop.......
Ian: “I’m sure it’s still in use today.”
MI6 person: “We need to ask you to come with us.”
Or "E" Squadron, SAS. "Allegedly"...
Can we just take a quick moment to appreciate Ian's INCREDIBLE ability to memorize and relay very nuanced, specific information about basically every firearm ever made?, and within days of completely unrelated arms?
Even with a prompt, script, and weeks of research, I couldn't pull this off. No one else on earth could do this.
I love your channel so much history
Amazing to think that now this is a sole survivor artifact and handled so very carefully, but when it was made, you can see rough filing and punch marks etc.
Interesting you point that out, because yeah something thats always facinated me with old guns is that they where often tools for many decades before someone got the idea they where collectable.
The bit about the covert instruments inventor falling into a jet engine almost sounds like a mission from a Hitman game. Wild way to go...
Sounds like people who work for Boeing
he fell into a Jet engine silencer not the engine itself, was essentially sucked by the jet blast into the gap between the jet and the silencer
You telling me a guy like that died in such a way that made identifying his body almost impossible? Hmm.
@@SerpentineJack99 he'd be 115 years old so don't think you need to worry to much these days
@@andreww2098 I’m not worried about that. I just wonder what cool stuff he did during the Cold War.
I know this is your whole niche mate (Forgotten Weapons), however your ability to access these rarities is simply amazing!👌👍
Ah, this takes me back. Years ago I was curious about how silent and effective the Welrod was, and my search for answers led me to find Gun Jesus, and shortly afterwards I had subscribed and started binging 😁
wow an Welrod prototype that is really cool.
What a privilege to have you showing us our heritage. Thank you
Its beautiful ! Ever since the mkII and the modern "vet gun" ive been wanting to see you get your hands on the mkI. Congrats Ian! Such a cool piece of history! Hope you had a catch up with Jonathan, and you're both well!
I have waited for this one since I discovered the channel. 😮
@3:51, excuse me, silenced colt woodsman??? Can you do a video on that? That sounds awesome!
Yes!!
Silenced colt 1903 sounds pretty neato
The grip of this thing reminds me of the “Liberator” pistol a bit! Great video as always, Ian!
BRING BACK 1hr+ Q&A
When you gun is slightly louder than a breaking stick and it still comes 2nd.
Hey, breaking a stick is always how you get caught.
It's beautiful in the sense that function takes preference over form.
Happy monday morning gun man
H'Wood's idea of what a silenced firearm sounds like is the Welrod. No matter what the weapon is they use the same sound.
P'choo, p'choo, p'choo.
So, I know a lot of people say that the internet listens to you and if you talk about something then you start seeing adverts or videos etc of it… but unless Facebook can read minds then it seems that coincidences are just more common than you expect. I say this because today I was thinking about the Welrod for the first time in years, and this video pops up.
A guy with a Welrod always shows up when you least expect it.
I like the latter Mk 2 bicycle pump looking weapon that went into production. But the prototype is pretty cool.
This is really cool, I never saw a Mk I and it was really interesting hearing about the trials and competition. Along with the technical experimentation.
This is even more special having recently watched a movie on the SoE called (appreciately enough) The ministry for ungentlemanly warfare❤
Brilliant video
I wonder if a self healing foam baffle would work better than rubber wipe . Like the foam for new targets . Least get a longer life . Love the logic on the design . I fancy it 😅
Huh…
They were certainly still in use until 1991 with 22 SAS.
No hiding it now !!! Garage guys will be all over this 😳😳
A trigger that looks like a safety is such a genius design idea
I can just imagine a couple of old boys behind a bush drinking tea judging the noise 😊
As the owner of a Hi-Standard HDM, I can confirm they're incredible pistols.... But yeah, .22lr isn't the best for what I'll just call "anti-personnel" use vs 9mm or even .32. Although if it were me, I'd take the Hi-Standard with it's magazine vs the Welrod's single shot + awkward manual reload. .22 can be plenty deadly with good shot placement and 7 or 8 rounds to play with. The CIA and US Army agree with me: *Hi-Standard HDMs are **_still_** in US inventory to this day,* though admittedly only as mission specific, special request items and not standard issue (they've been long outclassed by modern suppression tech, although not by as much as you might think!).
Your firearm history knowledge is incredible. Much obliged for sharing. Stay Frosty Folks!
2 awesome pistol
I happen to be the only surviving example of the Mk1 nimrod.
i LOVE the welrod
I know it is going to be a good day when I see a new video from Ian. Just finishing my second cup of coffee when I saw a new video and like always, I learned something and had a smile on my face as it ended. Thank you so much, even us old farts love learning, it keeps out ancient brains hitting on all 8.
I have to say, the guy who was responsible for this (and several other "dirty work" items) dying by falling into a prototype suppressor for a damn jet engine is one badass ending.
😂 this was my favorite gun in Medal of Honor rising sun. It was one shot in the game. Ian has found the real life version of the James Bond Golden Gun
I fought my way through Singapore with it!
@@michaelbecker3107 Same!
"I'll meet you at the hotel!"
Just at the same day S0ur released his MOH Rising Sun video
Same here
Very cool
Very cool and interesting, thank you!
“…a bizarre way to go. But certainly unique”. For whatever reason this phrase really made me laugh. Also, that poor guy. Death by jet engine silencer!
I was half-expecting a Royal Armouries comment "Still in service? We know nothing about that. Never heard of. Honest"
I believe a few of these were issued to UK special forces during the Falklands war (1982).
@@AtheistOrphan i believe ive seen references to them being available/taken into the field at least in Desert Storm by SAS teams.
@@norwegianwiking - Yes I can certainly believe that.
I LOVE YOU IAN
"Excuse me citizen why does your bike pump have a rifle bolt on it? The SS would like to have a word with you."
Someone needs to start making fully functional replicas of these rare/experimental/prototype firearms and test them out to see them working. I would love to see a fully functional Landstad...
If I have my lore right the Quinton mentioned here was Ian Flemings inspiration for Q in his Bond books
I know this wouldn't have happened even if the Mk I had been adopted, but I love the mental picture of an SOE agent and/or commando carrying a pocketful of little bitty stripper clips holding five rounds of .32 ACP apiece.
Quinton = Q from James Bond? Fleming probably knew him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this is actually how Q came to be 😂
I believe (though I may stand to be corrected) that 'Q' merely stood for Quartermaster and in the books by Ian Fleming, the role of 'Q' was never actually given a name. The films took the name of the armourer mentioned in Doctor No, a Major Boothroyd, and assumed he was 'Q'. Now IF actually knew a Geoffrey Boothroyd, who was a firearms expert in Glasgow and it appears named the armourer after him.
@@jcorbett9620you are correct. The Q character Bond fans are familiar with is an invention of later non-Fleming novels and the films, like inspired by Charles Fraser-Smith (also of SOE gadget fame).
Oh man do I ever want to see a table with all the weapons from that silenced weapons competition 😮
My most sincere congratulations Ian, well done. This video about the Welrod MKI was very enlighting. The Welrod is truly a very exotic gun to look at. Fun fact: besides appearing in WW2 shooters the Welrod also appears in Insurgency: Sandstorm as a weapon of the Insurgency and can be customized with all accessories.
I love my past. I love my present. I'm not ashamed of what Ive had, and I'm not sad because I have it no longer.
As a proud citizen of Welwyn Garden City, It makes me quite happy to see this beast on the channel!
Excellent.
I learned a lot 😮
& +1 for the algorhythms. Thanx for the best content online Ian. As per usual. 🦀 🇦🇺 ✌️
Ian. Can you please do more video's on more Turkish Mauser rifles bcs I am very interested in them. They are very over looked but they are very cool to learn about
The Welgun, Welbike and Welrod - were all designed in a small Hertfordshire town in UK called Welwyn. pronounced 'Welling'
The welrod is known as the VP9 from B&tT for vets.
So sneaky, this is probably the first for many of us to see one.
I am going to have a look for the *Forgotten Explosives* sister channel to see what other equipment was produced at the time.
The Welrod always put me in mind of the DS (Deep Sleep) guns from Logan's Run (both the 1976 film & 1978 TV series). I thought they were so cool. Looking at them with an adults eye they still seem similar, though the DS gun had gouts of green flame coming from the front when fired, not very stealthy.
Silent but deadly.
I really think you'd have to pair this thing with a fairbairn sykes.
Smatchet for the win.
weird... this one does a better job at passing for not a gun with the short magazine and the thumb trigger, but then they used a bolt handle that looks super gun-like!
how much sense does it make anyways to have a bolt handle on a pistol in the same position as on a rifle? I feel like you would want to use some arrangement in which the bolt handle is repositioned for left hand use. but I suppose that depends on how used the user is to shooting bolt action rifles.
It may have combined already available part designs from other weapons.
2:57 "This will be something put in to Major Production"
Major Production "Nani?!"
in under a minute!
I've been waiting for this!
Is the Welwand next?
Good video.
Its also essentially still in production in 9mm and .45 auto in the form of the B&T VP9 and now Station Six.
Major Quentin Reeves is possibly the inspiration for Q, James Bond’s armourer. Ian Fleming worked in British Intelligence during WWII and may have been familiar with Quentin’s work.
I always find it kind of suspicious when you Find out someone who worked on a bunch of top secret stuff strangely "falls" into something and dies.
Not even videogames have seen one, that's truly impressive.
Medal of honor and sniper elite to name 2 would disagree
@michaelyano6094 those are mk2 versions where they have a knurled rear cap that u use to operate the action
@noahfyan9617 that makes sense thanks!
Thank you for correcting them@@noahfyan9617
I was literally just thinking about the wellrod and delisle suppressed weapons the other day.
I have a hi standard HD it's honestly my favorite pistol having a silenced one would be amazing
Keith Melton wrote an excellent book about OSS weapons
The Welrod is my unicorn pew. Like for most people it's stuff like the FAMAS, or Type-1 AK. But these are so neat
ian is looking strong
The provision of the Welrod MK IIs is mentioned in the SAS histories known from the South Atlantic War (1982).
Would ❤ to hear that weapon go off..
super schweet, im gonna make one
I had no idea they had a mark one. I thought the walrod was the first one and they stuck with it.
I wonder how quiet they could get things with modern suppressor tech. For that matter, it'd be cool to make the rubber baffles more easily swapped by using a tri-lug connection for the front piece. For the whole unit would be cool too. If you could disassemble it by hand in 2 seconds it would be especially effective for espionage.
“Did you hear that Hans? Hans…”
I can see why the trigger and magazine were updated for the mk2, but I *really* like that bolt action, as the mechanism of the later versions always seemed cumbersome to reload quickly. I suspect they weren't as concerned about that as they were about concealability and materials cost, but I think there's a version of this I would prefer that melds the bolt action on this with the improvements on later models.
Pogtastic episode!
I’m kind of obsessed with the idea of something like this being made to be shot in the “cheek pistol” style. Maybe a ring at the end would flip into place for a poor man’s raised red dot. With a trigger like this, maybe you could forgo the grip altogether. Anyone got ideas about how the magazine could work if we wanted to keep the thing more concealable, and less pistol shaped?
The actual welrod
Hopefully a followup vid with Welwand
This as quite weird to watch and listen to as we found out a few years ago that my late uncle wasn't in the 'special commando's' as he tended to write of his WW2 history, but was in fact in SOE........
He was involved in Yugoslavia with the Partisans, dropped behind the lines in Italy to facilitate sabotage and the 'removal' of high ranking officers. He was also dropped into Sicily the day before the invasion to 'deal with' senior Germans at their HQ......
Odd to think that he quite likely used a Welrod in the field!
My Grandfather worked in development and engineering for SOE at Station 9 where the Welrod was designed. This is all we know about his wartime service, he never spoke of any of the details of the work he did.