the $130 Ryzen 5 7500F vs the SUB $100 i5 12400F - What's the Best CPU for your Gaming PC?
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With CPU prices coming down drastically in 2024, one must wonder, does Intel or AMD have the best 6 core offering? Well let's put the Ryzen 5 7500F (currently $125 shipped) vs the i5-12400F (currently $95 shipped), to see how both these CPUs perform in games at both 1080p and 1440p.
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The Ryzen 5 7500F giving me those Ryzen 5 3500 vibes! Have you tried this CPU? My experience with it was... wow!
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the ryzen CPU looks like you haven't run it with PBO and curve optimizer leaves a lot on the table interms of performance and run hotter if you don't
It is an amazing budget Ryzen CPU for AM5 at the right price. But when somehow for someone the difference is only €20/$20 go for the 7600
@@samuelrave do you really need an iGPU that bad you want to spend £20 on it i wish i knew about the 7500F before i bought my 7600x (at least i got starfeild with it to sell)
@@markthompson4567 it is also clocked a tiny bit higher in base and boost clocks. And integrated graphics can come in handy in some cases and when trouble shooting.
And $20,- is more like £16
@@samuelrave if its as little as that $20 of a difference then it could be worth it if you need an iGPU i would rather save the money and use it to buy the best Zen 6 AM5 CPU when released because for me its about £40 difference between 7500f and 7600
7500f is more of a competitor to 13500f/14500.
I would like to see a comparison between the 13500 vs 14500
but 13500/14500 is verry very expensive compare to 7500f
price wise it is not. whole system costs $50 less when buildign with for examle 13500F or a lot less when paird with 14500.
and even then because intel cut cache on those CPUs 7500F still wins, at least with what I tried.
In gaming the 7500f is équivalent as a 13600kf not downlocked
the 13500 and 14500 are just refreshes of alder lake anyway, not better than the 12600k, really not much difference at all.
The results make sense, the 7500F is a slightly downclocked 7600X which is on par with top processors like a 12900K and 5800X3D.
Isn’t the 7500F also a half-cache model, since it’s based on the G series of CPUs with graphics disabled?
@@Redmage913 no, same cache as 7600/x
@@Redmage913 Currently the only ones with half the cache are 8000 series CPUs, 7000 all have the full cache.
except the 7500k has pbo2 and you can hit 5.4-5.5 with it while intel locks down everything that isn't a k series
Same cache just no 2 RDNA2 CUs is the only architectural difference between it and the 7600X
I got my 7500F overclocked to 5.5GHz on 1.17V and it's a beast. PBO2 is a good option too for people that are not comfortabe with overclocking.
Yes I was thinking the whole time "but AMD can overclock" so that's an easy 5+
-8% faster without using too much more power.
Yeah but overclocking is sadly not possible on A620, so you probably have a B650?
@@samuelrave yeah true. I would suggest there is a LOT of value in a better motherboard as you could overclock now but more importantly upgrade to a much faster CPU on the same mobo. 7500f upgrade to a zen6 x3d CPU will be insane and could carry you out to nearly 2030 with enough performance for games. I got a 5600x and b550 for $200 about 2 years ago and I regret not saving another $100 or so to get a platform with an upgrade path. AM4 was legendary and the 5600x games as well as the 12400f but just like on lga1700.. there is not much of an upgrade path.
@@samuelrave u not mising much really, gpu is still more important
@@sayacee5813 The A620 is not suitable for future upgrades, as it only supports CPU's with up to a 65W TDP and the board has mediocre VRM's.
Also it is very limited in faster USB ports, on A620 boards you have mostly USB 2.0 ports and only two or three USB 3 ports.
When someone wants future upgrades it is better to go with B650
In Europe the Ryzen 7500F goes for around 165€ (tax included), which would be equivalent to a i5 12600KF. I can't find anything close to $125 for a Ryzen 7500F.
Aliexpress. I have bought 2 so far.
@@Fenrirsleash Did you pay for the customs and %10 value added to the product?
@@SalamaAhmed-pj3jv no just a basic tax, I’m in the US so there isn’t an import tax
@@Fenrirsleash That's great, I like the US laws
@@SalamaAhmed-pj3jv they have their good points and bad. I can’t believe y’all have to pay all that extra money.
The thumbnail seriously giving me some Random Gaming in HD flashbacks😂😂😂
I have a 12700k and I would choose a 7500F over a 12400F. One of the major advantages of intel is quicksync (including 10 bit 4.2.2 hardware acceleration that Nvidia or AMD don't support which lots of cameras shoot in). 12400F loses that productivity benefit due to the lack of IGPU so no point in choosing it over a Ryzen 7000 series.
How much does Intel pay you to spread that everywhere? And for sure, he got paid from AMD.
I've been using 12400 since July 2022, still on DDR4 and it has been performing admirably. Recently jumped to 1440p, upgrading from RX6700 10gb to 4070s and I've seen no bottleneck in the games I played. Needless to say AM5/DDR5 would be the way to go if building brand new but I feel 12400/f still has some life left in it.
im running 12400f rn too i might go i514400f soon or ryzen 5 7600x
I've just upgraded to a 12400F, with a B760 Tomahawk and I'm stocked with the result. It's a good jump from my old 7700K.
Cinebench r23 multi core score is 12000 and single core is 1600 for i5 12400
@@ciexll you might not see much difference in performance with 14400 unless doing productivity, but then if you're doing thst then 13/14 600/700 might be better. 7600x seems like a better choice for an upgrade with a better support for AM5 planned
Next smart upgrade is i5 14600k when 200e or what new cpu is
Had this cpu with a rx 6700xt since November and I’ve got to say it’s awesome, definitely some of the best value you can get
I think the 12400f still has its place on the lower lower end, for example the 7500f in my country is about 175usd and the 12400f is about 130usd. This price delta is the cost of a really cheap h610m or b660 motherboard then add some cheap ram and you got yourself a decent platform.
The price difference is pretty significant. I think it’s no right to compare these. There’s a 12500k or something that costs the same maybe?
Baked beans pizza with green tea!?! You savage
Easy win for the 7500F.
Platform is also upgradable to much higher performance...
Lol and LGA 1700 isnt??
@@stephenhood2948 14th gen is last on 1700
@@gta4haterhq There will still be 12th-14th gen i7 and i9 CPUs available for a long time. Sure you wont be able to upgrade to the newest processor, but you still have a nice upgrade path.
@@stephenhood2948AM5 will last longer
But that A620 is really not suitable for upgrades. The VRM's are not good in almost any A620 motherboard, and off course all the other limitations that come with that chipset, like limited support for Ryzen CPU's that have more then 65W TDP. If you want future upgrades, go at least with the B650 chipset.
Ordered a 7500f a week ago and it's on the way. Upgrading/building from a i7 4770k. I was tempted to get a 7800X3D But since 9000 is on the horizon It seemed like good idea to get the cheapest AM5 CPU then eventually upgrade to 9000 once it's out. $120 is throw away money but I'm going to definitely sell 7500f eventually, get like $60/70 for it.
Can't wait to test it out and see the improvements from my old 4770k.
Something is wrong with Cinebench results - I checked few i5 12400f and all of them gave about 12200-12300 points in multicore and about 1700 in single core. Multicore score can be explained by intel limit to 65 Watts, but single core I cannot explain.
Regarding power consumption - it depends on CPU revision: H0 is more power hungry and takes almost 80W and cannot be undervolted. However C0 is better and can be undervolted. My undervolted 12400f consumes only 58W (package power) and the whole system (Asus B660-I, RTX 4070) during cinebench takes only 87-88 Watts (measured at the wall), in idle it's 30 Watts, so it's extremely efficient. And it's all having still 12300 points in CB R23.
Will double check it when I am back in Japan, I just bought this 12400F new from umart. (I have an initial release 12400F over there).
Those cinebench scores are actually closer to a 10600k. Other people’s benchmarks show the the 12400f performing much closer to the 7500f in gaming when both are using ddr5.
I'm English and have never seen a 7500F for sale anywhere in the UK. As these are just 7600's with a duff iGPUs there may not be enough for world wide shipments.
I built a new PC in June with a 7900(no X). I do game and my old Ryzen 2700(no X) was fine for what I play, but it was slow to process lots of DVD's (like TV box sets) and very slow on Blu-ray's. I didn't wait for the 9000's as the non-X versions are typically another 6-12 months after the initial launch. The 7900 now procesess a Blueray about as fast as the 2700 did DVD's.
The 7900 using the supplied AMD heat sink running with PBO (limited to 85C) is getting 4.5+GHz on all cores, even after hours of Handbrake encoding (running 2 jobs to get 100% CPU usage). The single/dual core speed is hitting 5.2GHz with ease. With this 85C setting it gives more leeway with the AMD cooler, setting just PBO had it hit the 95C limit is seconds and would slow down as the heat sink got saturated. At the 85C limit it is using ~80Watts when running 2x Handbake encodes of Blue-rays.
I put 32GB of Corsair DDR5-6000 (CAS 30) EXPO in it as that was just £12 more than the cheapest sticks. It runs perfectly and using the iGPU with faster RAM made a noticeable improvement of about 10+%.
Here in the UK the 7600 is (currently) priced at £190 (all prices include the 20% sales tax called VAT, plus the odd penny to round up), the 7700 is £290. So £100 more for just 2 extra cores (+33%).
The 7900 is available for £340 so for an extra £150 you get 100% more cores over the 7600, or for £50 over the 7700 you get 50% more cores. Its is a bargain for those of us wanting higher core counts! The 7950X is about £480 and runs a lot hotter.
The X parts are typically £20 more expensive but you also have to buy a decent heat-sink and fan that will set you back another £30, making the non-X versions more like £50 cheaper. You always have the option of buying a better HS+Fan at a later date for high overclocking.
Also: When I assembled the system I tested it out using the iGPU and was pleasantly surprised. Now I am not saying it's good for modern games, it is not good playing "The Witcher 3" @~15fps 1080p High, but for all desktop work and old games it does OK.
A good example was that I re-played Portal and Half-Life 2 (up to getting out of the prison section with the bugs helping) and was playing those at 1080p Max settings with ~90-110fps. In contrast my RX6700XT limited to the 120Hz of my TV (running the same games) will use less than 10% of the GPU using about 16Watts as it clocks itself down to ~50Mhz.
Really appreciate this video, ryzen 5 7500f all the way, i've paired it with RX6800 xt , and 32GB 6000Mhz, brilliant combo, serves both purpose, gaming and productivity (youtube video editing) etc.
Good luck with YT, keep consistent and you'll do good!
Recently got the 7500F and I am not regretting it!
In my area the 12400F costs like 27% less than the 7500F. Used 12400F costs even less (almost half the price of 7500F). Plus the 7500F is still so new that I can only find one seller offering it right now. Add up the mobo cost and they're in 2 different price classes. I'll see how things change in the future but right now Intel is still the better budget choice where I live.
found the 7500f on ali express for about 130 US, giving it a try!
7500f is an obvious choice if you ever plan on upgrading (but it's so good you might not need to)
Another AMD shillll that pretends it is illegal to sell cpu and motherboard etc together
@@tilapiadave3234 it's a bit harder no?
@@tilapiadave3234 Are you ok, bud?
@@Rspsand07 Are you ok there in mummies basement?
@@tilapiadave3234 Attic, put some respect on gravity.
The price difference between these two can vary depending on your location. In Europe, the 7500f is way more expensive than a 12400F for example, with the 12400F sometimes available for around 105 euros, and generally for about 120.
In addition the 12400f can be run without the set power limits of 65 W if your motherboard supports it, which adds a few percent of performance.
Also, if you'd like to overclock the 12400f to 5.1 GHz, you can do so (yes, even though it's not a K-spec unlocked CPU), by using the BCLK method discovered by der8auer.
You can save a bit by using DDR4 memory on both CPUs. DDR5 doesn't make a huge difference in gaming, as per tests done by Linus Tech Tips, unless you use a top of the line CPU and GPU.
Isn't running 5200mhz ram on the ryzen hobbling its performance quite a bit? You'd usually be running it with 6000mhz memory since ryzen is quite memory dependent. I remember seeing HUB's benchmarks for 12th gen where going from 5200 to 6000 was like a 6% at it's very worst but usually negligible in perf diff at best. While on ryzen it was regularly around 10-20% when comparing 5200 C36 with 6000 C30 memory and even worse for 5200 C40.
Budget king is always the Xeon
Core2duo or nothing
Yeah buy x99 mobo sure it's cheap?
@@lyulyu-w9h I didn't say X99
@@robertpattinson2068Oregon trail running smooth AF.
@@lyulyu-w9hyeah about £40 on aliexpress
from hardware unboxed number, 7500f can compete with 13600k
Love this content! It always helps when I’m ready to build again which is now. Ty
You've said that in 1440p differences are mitigated but do not mention that lows are far lower on intel
You are right. He didn't say that but we could see it with out eyes on the graphs.
But he did? You two are delusional 💀
But he didn't. CS example where he said that difference are mitigated.
@ he said the average is mitigated but that the one percent lows are still higher on the Ryzen CPU 💀
@@zk0rnedbut he didn't.
Thank you for this video, as a system builder myself I haven't touch the DDR5 era CPU yet... So your video can be a good base for me for my next build.
It would have been nice to see a comparison of AV1 software encoding, not always just games, games..games.
The bottom right text (colour key) on your graph pages is very difficult to read. White on bright orange is not a good combination. Just make it black and its 100% more readable.
1:07 No... I don't upgrade to new systems, I upgrade to Tech YES Loved systems.
Using the 7500F. But the mobo I am using from Aftershock is a locked B650 gigabyte motherboard. I was hoping to overclock with a b650 chipset but no dice.
That said it does pair well with the RTX 4070 Super which I am also using.
You can overclock any of the current AM5 CPUs on the B650 chipset just fine. You just made an error or bought a really bad one
7500f arriving this week from AliExpress to UK. First PC I've built since 2010. Just need to chose the right mb now!
Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 The best budget mb with a perfect VRM.
The 12400 can be overclocked on some B660 and B760 motherboard. My 12490f runs at 4,6GHz all cores, 83W during cinebench (can hit 5.3 GHz for 115W but I will need a better cooler). In R23 I score 13800pts at 4.6GHz and the 7500f scores 14054pts at 5GHz. I'm quite sure they're comparable both in power draw and performance if tested at the same clock speed.
12490f as a name goes hard ngl
@@RyanFennec Chinese specialty for you ! Basically a 12600 with no e-cores, 20MB of L3 cache and higher boost speed.
my 7600 is rn at 5.2ghz allcore with 1.1v and 1v soc voltage. can do 5.5 allcores but its not worth the 1.24v,maybe some time later when i will feel the need for more cpu power. cinebench means nothing fr gaming performance matters and the e cores wich win the cinebench scores for intel dont do nothing in gaming. i really tried to convince myself to buy a intel rig but i just cant find any good reasons.
@@nexuqk no e-cores crap for the 12400/12490. Cinebench is just for IPC comparison, modern games optimisation is quite bad, it all depends on the games you play, your resolution and what FPS you expect.
wich board do you have? i think only very old bios allowed that, or im wrong?
An interesting metric for CPUs could be strategy games. The average turn time of a civ 6 game can for example vary quite significantly depending on the CPU.
Another interesting example would be Victoria 3. The game tends to run slower and slower as the years pass, which can get really annoying in the second half of the game.
Subjectively, I would argue, there is a bigger difference in having to wait only half the time when compared to the gain of going from 100 to 200 fps.
Love your value reviews, cheers mate.
so did you do a undervolt on the ryzen5 or was it out of the box stock settings as that ryzen will most likly kill that intel on power usage and if done right it will get better clock speeds
Im in process of picking parts for upgrade of my aging i9900k and amd 7500f is the way for me now..
I would keep the 9900K, it still does compare well and if I were you I would wait until you see a larger disparity fps wise.
@@burrfoottopknot Yeah I agree, I would take a bigger step if upgrading from a 9900K.
I have 9900k, 5600x, 7700X, and 7800X3D systems. The 5600X was ~97% the performance of the 9900k. GN and Hardware Unboxed have tests that confirm this. The AM5 platform is definitely worth getting into for pcie 4.0 and 5.0 and you'll experience a big bump in performance. Be sure to get a motherboard with great connectivity like pcie 5.0 m.2, x16, and USB4 since you're spending money.
@@AshtonCoolmanhey what about the 7700 vs 7800x3d, you notice diff?
I'd just keep your 9900k and then upgrade to the next gen of intel or AMD parts at this point you only have to wait a little more
choose 12400f, you'll save 15 dollars on motherboards, 65 dollars from upgrading to ddr5
I have 12400F on Asus ROG Strix B660-G oveclocked to 4.6Ghz and I get 13500 points in Cinebench, so very close to 7500F @ 5Ghz, and temps in gaming never get over 70 C on old Noctua U12P cooler.
The current Brazilian government applies taxes of 92% on imports. But I can't say much here, I risk being censored.
Socket AM5 and (AM4 for Ryzen 5) is the Budget that I am falling in love with AMD
The Ryzen gives you a massive upgrade path too, not just in the AM5/7000 series, but the next gen Ryzens are confirmed to run on AM5 motherboards, and although not confirmed the generation after that might well do too.
I saw some talk about AM5+. New motherboards that have additional features but still supporting the old AM5 motherboards after 9000 but who knows.
I noticed that even though the average fps was close to the 7500f but the 1% lows were at over 100fps with the 7500f but below 30fps on the Intel, at least on the first game you show testing on.
The 7500f is like $140 shipped on ali express right now, I just got a 12400f and a b660 mobo on ali express for $162 shipped so from my perspective the 12400f is still 100% viable for a budget system. Plus a 12400f uses much cheaper ddr4 that can be gotten for $30 for 2x8gb.
Yeah I have a 12400F, I decided to skimp on the CPU and upgrade later, but then about 1 month ago they dicontinued 13th gen. 14th gen is not usable by me (DDR4).
I was worried it would be slower than my old i9 9900K, but they're quite similar in performance, the i9 has the edge though.
So at the moment it's perfectly acceptable, but my hopes of getting a 13900K or 13700K are rapidly diminishing, especially as rumours swirl about high end 13th gen chips being over powered by motherboard settings, and actually damaging the silicon in those chips. So 2nd hand may be off the table.
just stick to your 12400f for a 2-3 gens, and maybe save money for a better gpu
@@milkybrowny7331 Yeah , I’d still like to maximise the mobo, cost $400 etc.
I did a lot of research last weeks. Building my first PC again now after 15 years afk ☺️. Ordered the 7500f on ali (still on the plane though) and today i got my hands on a second hand 6700xt for €175 (which is a steal!). Cant wait to try it out! This video just confirmed i made the right cpu choice.
Does the cpu work? I would like to buy it too bc i had a 950 budget and need to stay on am5 could you help me pls?
I'm debating this and going straight for the 7800X3D. I'll be getting a MSI MPG B350I no matter alongside 32GB 6000Mhz RAM. The debate will be what to do with the 7500F once the time comes for 9000 AMD. But also will have to see the longevity and what resale or rebuild value I'll have later on. The plan will be to eventually get the Max from AM5 like people have previously done with AM4.
Based on other people’s benchmarks, I have a feeling the i5 is being held back by the slow RAM speed more than the R5 because of the cache sizes. I could be wrong but it would still be interesting to see the same tests with both using 2x16 6000c30. Where I’m from, most DDR5 kits are pretty close in price.
It's just an oldet and slower cpu in all aspects, and is good only if the price is right xD
I know the 7500f is faster, but if you look at other people’s benchmarks that use faster DDR5, it’s not that much faster in terms of 1% lows.
You know it very well that 7500f is more expensive tho.
The price of 12400f is rather at the same range of ryzen 5600 (atleast where im from).
Intel is faster there. Even faster than 5600x
While the 7500f is at the range price of intel 14100.
Well, 12400 is at that range too, but still cheaper.
Im surprise that 12600KF is just a little bit above the price than ryzen 7500F. But its pretty much faster.
What about the 7700 it under 300 aud on aliexpress?
I would like to see the 7500F compared to the 12600k which is about £20 more for the CPU but you can get motherboards generally cheaper and even have the option of DDR4 boards if you have DDR4 already that's a big saver, obviously going DDR5 is better long term but if you're really stretching the budget I think looking at the 12600k with it's extra efficiency cores and higher out of the box clocks compared to the 12400F could be beneficial for productivity tasks. I just think that would also make for an interesting follow up video, I'd rather spend £20 more for a decent bump in performance. Great work as always Brian Love the channel.
This is based on UK aliexperess pricing btw. The 12400f is significantly cheaper overall compared to the Ryzen all in.
Rise the power limit, use curve optimizer in minus 30, use pbo +200 X10 in bios and do not forget also in the pbo to rise the pwr limit do not exceed 110w and you will have a very good 7500f. DO NOT USE AMD SOFTWARE , use all in bios. Really 7500f a really good processor with a good and cheap b650 motherboard with good vrm.And also all ddr5 5600 can also easyly oc to 6000 or 6200 with good timing. For me single core cpu in cnbench r23 around 1900 and 15200 in cinebench multiproc. Rock stable in occt power under 80° same for cpu occt and ram for one hour rock stable under an 140mm fan with temp for the ram under38°c. This 7500f is a must for a budget gaming pc.
There is a big difference in performance and efficiency between an i5 12400F and an i5 14400F - but also the later is also a lot more expensive sadly.
12400F is still the budget King
7500F has been the best value CPU for last 6-8 months. I have bought a lot this time as well, since only 7600 is available in my country I can sell these for good price, paried with decent GPU like 3080, it's hell of great deal and if you have not tried it out. B650M RS or similar you can buy for less than $100 these days, and DDR5 being affordable than ever, it is very good time to build new PC
7500F user here really good I played games,did editing and even some 3d renderings it handled it pretty well best cpu for the price to performance
I might be inclined to include the often overlooked 7700X3D. For about $100 less than the 7800X3D it is one heck of a bargain.
Here in Europe
7500F is going for $155, 12400F is $111 but the better pick is probably the 5600X for $95 or the 7600 for $157, so just $2 for the built in graphics and a cooler.
I would go with 7500f.... but the cost of DDR5 ram is way too high now, 32gb basically costs the same as i5-12400f new with warranty, not from Aliexpress.
wonder how does the 7500f perform if PBO2 is enabled
7500F WW channel available has increased + 31% in the last couple months but still represents just 0.009% of Raphel full line supply available where 12400F supply available is 640% more than 7500F supply available. mb
Kinda different build paradigms going on here, for the 7500f you have better performance and you can drop in ryzen 9000 in the future but inventory is drying up, pretty much limited to ali (like you said). 12400 can be purchased with a ddr4 motheboard so if you currently have a pos ddr4 system you can re use the ram. Also you can get some pretty high feature z690 boards for entry level price because they are seen as "old".
However, one thing to consider is DDR4 being about 2/3 or lower than DDR5 (I've seen 64GB 3733MTs go down to €60) wich makes is extremely attractive compared to AM5 in some cases
I wonder if something is wrong with the i5 12400 configuration just basing off of your cinbench score I have ran over 12000 on my 12400. Do you think something is off there by chance?
12400f + h610 + ddr4 3200 + rx 5600xt you are done ;)
5600 + b550 + ddr4 3600 + rx6600 🙃
@@Oz-gv5fz rx 6600
Great video. However, I have to be honest that i totally disagree with your answer to the comment at the end. He can do simple slot in upgrade to a i7 3770, add up to 32 GB of RAM and get a dirt cheap GTX 1060 6GB GPU. Put an SSD in there and Bob's your uncle. That will blow his socks off compared to the current setup he had, and with the handhelds being all the rage - he can also game for years to come.
Can you please do a video comparing PTM7950 phase-change thermal solution with regular thermal paste like Arctic MX-4/MX-6 and other ones, also test with multiple coolers(air, water, how many you can and want to test). Love your vids!
May I ask what is your average temps with the 7500f on the ak400 when gaming? I have the same setup and get an average of 70 degrees when gaming even with having eco mode enabled. Kinda worried because I see others with the same setup having lower temps.
TBH for gaming I wouldn't reccomend anything other than AM5 for better upgradability in the future and it's got better ram as well, might be a bit more pricey than the AM4 but still, it is worth it.
I just bought a new Ryzen 7 7700 on AliExpress for €176,- only! Amazing!!!
I just upgraded to the 12400F from a 7700K. I’m really happy with it so far. I found a used B760 Tomahawk to go with it.
The only trouble I’ve had is with MSI Centre. It’s a POS so don’t use it. And the MSI RGB BIOS is also garbage.
Cinebench scores are low for the i5, it should be around 1700 for single and 12k for multi core
Hey, I'm looking for upgrading from my aging 8700K and would like to know which cpu/motherboard combo you'd go for? I'm on a budget but I'm also looking for a substantial upgrade and the prices here are quite close and it's the same with performance so it's difficult to choose something. The thing is I'm worried about 6c/12t cpus going obsolete in the future due to games being more demanding. Should I keep my ram and cooler and buy am4 or just go straight to lga1700 or am5? What's the best choice here? Thank you. ^^
In terms of performance mostly, and then price, ddr4 is still good enough only if it's cabable of runing like 3600-3866 cl14/15, 4000-4266 cl16/17, 4400 cl18
@techyescity i wont got intel again i swapped out out a ryzen 1700 to a I9-11900k about 5 month ago, yes the 11900k was fast at stuff but for most day to day stuff it was just so laggy , i just ordered a r7-7700 from aliexpress from 1/3 of price i can get it for in UK , thanks for you doing the shopping vids in tiapai when you was there
Considering the i5 12400f is a few years older than the r5 7500f and a bit cheaper it's holding up quiet well if you ask me.
In here 12400f and 5600 is still preferred choice since b650 boards are pretty expensive, and you also need ddr5 which also gonna add to total cost more, if 7500f boards and ddr5 ram are cheap in your area, definitely go for that, it's 7600 performance tier at much cheaper price.
Just built myself a 12400F / 6700XT Used Rig for 500$ and Bryan posted this video
my 12400F / B660M Riptide combo can be OCed to 5.3Ghz with a 45$ Thermalright 360 AIO
l have to consider an upgrade because l'm stuck on i5 4460, 16 gb RAM and a RTX 3080 yet. We'll see... 😊
You install a few coolers, did you do any quick vid on cooler mounting pressure? I might repaste mine, but when I installed it (pur rock fx2) I fluked it, without stop screws how do I know when tight is tight enough.
Do you have an AliXp set of rules you go by, like only buy items that show over a certain amount sold? Or is it more of a matter where you recognize certain sellers over the course of repeated searches/purchases?
Usually I avoid new sellers especially if their prices are too good to be true. For CPUs however just stick with the ones with quite a few sales and good reviews and you will be fine.
On my alixpress the 7500f goes for rougly 220 USD so this content becomes irrelevant. Why don't you link to the product page directly?
For someone like me with a i5 12400 already I do appreciate this benchmark but I am definitely a graphics guy so it really makes no sense for me to upgrade.
Would be like 70usd more expensive going with Ryzen. It's a better choice but for those who can afford it. I went with an i7 12700k/b660 ddr4 because of the prices.
Yep nice comparison, so a R5 7500F looks to be about $200 AUD on aliexpress, and that's similar to the 12400F locally. Is there any other CPU worth comparing to the winner? No spoilers, watch the video guys.
I have a R7 7700, (I upgraded from a i7 7700k, which I kinda like I kept the same numbers, that'll never happen again I imagine), which really isn't much better than a R5 7600, which really isn't much better than an R5 7500F. Wanted the 8 cores for PS3 emulation... And the number thing helped.
I would push that 7500F to 5.4GHz, those 7000 Ryzen CPUs love a bit of an OC, give it a shot
For me, i512600k.. But I got lucky as it was on offer on Amazon for £150 brand new..
got 7500f+asrock b660+ddr5 6400 combo about 3-4 months ago just to see how "bad" amd is, been using ever since, perfect for 4k gaming and unlike current intel space heaters this one will probably won't self destruct in a year or two
My 10 year old helped me build her rig. We used the i5-12400F and my old RTX 2080 Ti. It's a fantastic combo.
dang why does ur 10yo need a 2080ti
@@milkybrowny7331 why doesn't she? tell me how this effects you? 🤣😂
@@dano5238 doest effect me other than the fact that it makes me jealous
13440f or 14400f are more expensive but have bigger L3 cache and more cores 6p+4e so it has more perfomance than 12400f with only 6 p cores.
I have both but sad to say 7500f sucks when it comes to emulation like Yuzu and RPCS3. So for me Intel is still my go to.
For fire and forget PC for the next 3 years, then the 12400F is amazing value. Many people game at only 60Hz range.
Personally I'd go with a Ryzen 5 7600.
I just got one off aliexpress for $175 Canadian, a decent upgrade from my 5700x as I wait for the 9700X3D in a year or 2
Me looks back at GN reviews when these weren’t “budget” yet… yup. Same. lol
Cinebench r23 multi core score is 12000 and single core is 1600 for i5 12400
where can i get a good deal on a intel 11th gen and what one do you sudgest. im in the us if that helps.
when testing fortnite for 1080p low you should use preformance mode 1080 p low as thats what all competitive players play the game on sorry if you're already using that for testing though
Last year, I got 12400. The cooler model SE-214-XT keeps it cool and maxes at 60 when rendering. I upgraded from a classic 3930k, which I got 5 years ago. I bought it from Amazon and saw it was a good price. I didn't do any research Both of these chips have the same threads and cores,so why did the guy lie, saying Cpus hasn't shown a big jump?
It's other cards like the i3 10th, even compared to other i3s and other i7s from the 11th or 9th generation, that show big jumps in power from the eras before it.
It used to take me 5min to copy a ep from a DVD now it only takes 2min with 1 program and then with the other only takes 1min
Renders for a 8hr 1440p used to take 4hr now takes only 2
Malwarebytes used to take 2hr now takes 10mins sometimes even 5mins same amount of files
If they would just make it available in my country, I would simply jump on AM5 without any thoughts.
imagine am5 lasting at least how much am4 did. buying ddr5 and cheapest ryzen rn is not a bad idea at all
especially when 9000 series is on the horizon
Where is it 125. Its 160 usd on ali when i looked
7500F is the budget king. Can't wait for its successor when 9000 series are released.
Something is not quite right with your 12400 I think. I have one and get over 12000 on Cinebench 23 🤔