Great color choice. That is a pretty big jump to go from iOS to Android. How are you getting accustomed to Android, or did you use it before you made the switch to Apple?
Thanks ukpai emmanuel! Btw, I have updated my pinned comment to reflect the Exynos 2200 used in Europe and Asia, thank you for pointing that out. Did you own the S22 Ultra before and switch it with the Fold 4?
Hopefully this video helps make the decision easier if you are considering the Z Fold 4. Thanks for watching! Please consider subscribing if you like this video 🙂 ➡➡Also, check out my first look at the S23 Ultra: ua-cam.com/video/_t0RCZogO8s/v-deo.html NOTE: The S22 Ultra Has a SD 8 Gen 1 & Exynos 2200 in some areas.
You did such a great job in explaining the day to day tasks that people would do and how to maximize the usage of the inner screen compared to other youtubers that does videos on the Fold 4.
Thank you for watching my video Cube. I'm happy it was useful to you. My videos are very long because I try to cover things I would want to know if I was going to spend that much money on a phone, but other UA-camrs probably aim to have shorter length videos. Thanks for sticking through all of it though!
I Used s22 ultra and Z fold 4, and i'm so happy with the z fold 4. I'm in love with the WOW effect this phone have, + great camera (compared to my z fold 2) not as good as s22 ultra but very good still. Z fold 4 feels better in the hand in my opinion, easier to hold, and the z fold 4 is sooooo fast, never got a single suttler, and no crash yet. so cool
Yep, it was definitely faster in some areas, and you're right no crashes or stutters yet too on my end. It's my first foldable device. Did you go from Z Fold 2 to S22 Ultra to Z Fold 4? Btw, which case are you using on your Z Fold 4?
@@DemCrumblies Yep, i went from a z fold 2 to a s22 ultra to a fold 4, i'm using stylus case, but i'm waiting for my dbrand skin, I usually use my phones naked, i never drop themp
@@lucaspetiot9620 You're living the brave life lol. I haven't dropped a phone yet, but there have been times when I went to pick one up without paying attention and it slid out a bit and hit a table from a few inches so now I just put on clear cases. I think you made a solid decision to go from Fold 2 to Fold 4. I haven't used any previous Fold devices, but from what I've heard, the Fold 4 improves in many areas and it feels like a polished experience so far coming from a first time user. Btw, how did you find your Fold 2 in cold weather? How did the screen hold up? I saw one guy say that his screen cracked opening the Fold 3 in cold weather. Gonna get cold in a few months where I live, so I'll see how my true that is.
I have the Note 20 Ultra, which is roughly the same size and functionality as S22. I've only recently started using and appreciating the SPen, but always found myself zooming in to documents to make make notes. Also, the phone is big. its width and height makes it almost unpocketable, and not many phone pouches were large enough for the Note. I started feeling that I want more real estate, yet in a smaller form factor. Well, I guess time has come to finally pull the trigger on the FOLD. Thanks for the video!
Hey Jahonius, glad you found the video helpful! Yes, the Z Fold 4 will suit your needs. You'll just have to be selective in the case or cover you choose if you want to house the S Pen on the body at all times. Good luck!
@@georgehofgren6123 Hey George, I haven't used the No20U, but I took a quick snap using the 3X camera lens. Minimum focus distance seems to be around 3 inches away from my quick test. Here's what I got: drive.google.com/file/d/1LRE6_K9M40DrR2GGTn701Ey--Kh3Fc5C/view?usp=sharing
Thanks for the review. Both phones are technical marvels, and the S22 Ultra makes more sense as a mainstream choice. I went to the Fold 4 from the S22 Ultra for the combo phone/Mini tablet experience. After all these years with the slab style, the Fold 4's combo tablet style is a fresh and very welcome change.
Hi Jim, you're 100% right about both phones being flagship devices. Once they can get Fold prices more reasonable in the future, it'll be ready for mainstream because right now it feel fluid enough in use for that, just the price makes it out of reach for most people. Btw, did you see the torture test from JerryRigEverything YT channel? The Fold 4 is way more durable than I thought it was after watching that video.
Hello jim i am thinking to make the opposite choise. i have z fold 4 and i want to buy the s22 ultra. because of your different change, can you give me a little review explaining the pros and cons of your choice and why you will never go back to the s22 ultra. will be helpfull for me . thanks and sorry for my english :)
@@losservatoreosservato Hi Angelo -- The S22 Ultra is an excellent phone which you would be happy to own. I liked the S22 very much -- I just wanted to go back to the "mini -tablet" capabilities of the Fold. As a candy-bar sytle phone, the S22 Ultra is second to none. You can't go wrong.
Can you help me decide? I want the tablet form factor of galaxy fold 4 however I need a phone with good camera zoom (will be using it on a series of concert i’ll be attending). Do you think s22 ultra works better for my case or galaxy fold z 4 would also work?
Hey Panda, if zoom is important, I would go to the S22 Ultra without question. There's been many times where I wanted that extra focal length reach, but couldn't get it with the Z Fold 4. Yea the Z Fold 4 is great for framing photos and videos and checking focus, but that lack of a telephoto lens is pretty major for me.
Great review. I had the Z Fold 3 but sold it for the s22 ultra due to poor battery life. The s22 ultra's battery life was great, but I have now switched to the Z Fold 4. I am selling my s22 ultra and made my own comparisons while it is here, and I am glad I bought the Z fold 4. The battery life is excellent. I work long12 hr shifts, and I find that the Z Fold 4 will last me the entire shift, whereas the z fold 3 used to die halfway into my work shift. The Z fold 4's battery life is on par with the S22 Ultra! Phenomenal! Which one do you like better?
Hey Remy, yea I found the battery life on the Z Fold 4 pretty surprising since it's a lower capacity battery than on my S22 Ultra. One of the things I noticed about my usage is that I use the front screen wayyy more than I thought I would for things like texting, checking emails, quick browsing, etc. I only open it up really to take photos and to watch UA-cam and sometimes with multi-tasking. So the battery is mostly powering the much smaller screen and lasting longer for me. Glad to hear the battery is lasting you on your 12 hour shifts. I love the Fold 4 and the ability to double the viewing or working area within a second (really helpful when framing and reviewing photos) for me. However, I don't find myself using the screen unfolded as much as I thought I would since the front screen is so capable for most of my tasks. They're both great phones, but I would likely choose the S22 Ultra since it has the S Pen built right into the body and it has the telephoto lens, so it's a better all-rounder for my use. I do find that the sound is much better on the Fold 4 though since it has two large speaker grills.
The camera really cements the s22 Ultra, I think. Been looking at both due to holiday sales, think I might go s22 Ultra and then see how the 23/Fold5 is and potentially trade up.
Considering the same thing. I currently have the z Fold3. However I do not use the inside as much and I am already on my 2nd one since it came out due to the inner screen protector coming off badly for my first one. And now I gotta get a new one again cause it fell and screen cracked. Was looking at fold 4..however was told its not much of a upgrade..plus the down payment is a lot more then the S22Ultra. Also, I hear the s22U has a great battery and great cameras..which I look for especially when going to concerts.
@@themusiclover8440 I haven't had this Fold 4 long enough to say that I won't encounter the screen protector issues, but so far no issues with it. I also find myself using the cover screen most of the time since it's usable, so the battery life is good since it's just powering that smaller screen. If you're into concert photography too, I think the S22 Ultra is better, plus it should have a better discount right now.
Hey អៀ ធារ៉ា_Ear Theara, I tried to capture how the sound felt on video, but it sounds pretty similar. However, in real life when you listen to both, the Z Fold 4 sounded a bit fuller because of the top and bottom speakers. Either way, both are great sounding speakers, just the Fold 4 has a slight advantage for me. I never owned the S21 Ultra, the S22 Ultra was my first Samsung phone actually. Before this one I was using the Sony Xperia XZ Premium, which is another squarish type of design that I loved.
i have s22 ultra but i got a great deal with my provider to upgrade with z fold 4. I had 30 days return policy. When I got the phone im really excited because of its uniqueness and big screen. 3 days upon using it im having doubt, the camera is not as good as my older s22 ultra and i barely use the fold 4 bigger screen. remiinds me that z fold 4 has only outer screen is hardened glass surface on the bigger screen is thin glass. easy to scratch. besides the weight of z fold 4 with casing is heavy. I enjoyed both of them but I returned my new z fold 4 on the 14th day of using it. back to my old reliable s22 ultra. and Im happy with it.
Hey Evangeline, yea, I also found the same thing as you about how often I was using the inner display. I actually made a video about my thoughts after using it for 5 months: ua-cam.com/video/Qx-f6OpYxw0/v-deo.html Not having a 10X zoom like on the S22U definitely was missed on the Z Fold 4. Kinda like you don't realize how much you use it, til it's gone. The S22U is still such a a great phone. I'm going to be comparing the S22U against the new S23 Ultra this week, but the upgrade really isn't necessary unless you want more battery life and faster opening of apps and games.
Coming from an LGv60 duel screen the fold4 was a nice upgrade. Especially the UI interface, app functionality, front screen and 1 large screen when open. I do miss having 2 full 6.8in screens for multitasking though.
Holy fuvk same upgrade path as me ! And I agree with you on everything. Especially the dual case letting it operate as a stand when needed. God I wished more companies went with the dual screen case concept to get more people used to phones that aren't just a slab. I love my fold 4 tho. So far so good, much cleaner better smoother UI. Makes me wish the weird quirks from the v60 a bit tho.
Agree, however even on lower battery I can only get 19-21W using a Watt USB C cable. After 50% it says it drops to 13-15W then 9W at 80% or above. I don't have a official Samsung 25 or 45w brick but I have a PPS and PD type C brick that can do 100W. I wonder if it is a software issue to protect battery charging health so they don't have another note 7 issue with folds. Otherwise charging speed is still fast compared to me coming from OnePlus 8 Pro with 30W charging.
@@HOMERUN1379 Yep, there is truth to that. I tried to change it the Fold 4 today when it was at 25% battery and I saw charging speeds of 17 to 18.5 watts usually. Which brand of charger are you using Tyler? I'm using a Spigen Power Arc one rated for 45 W. You might be on to something about battery protection, maybe it's for battery protection and longevity to charge in wattage tiers. So the fast charge kicks in to get you out of a pinch, then it normalizes later for the rest of the charge? I haven't owned any of the other flagships with 65W or 80W charging to know if they charge in the same manner and how battery performance is like on those devices long-term.
@@Wang.812 How do you find that the battery life compares to your S22 so far? For me, it's been better because I've found myself using the cover screen more than I thought I would.
Why not get both like I did for different things to do, I love both phones. Main phone is z4 my offhand is 22ultra. I wouldn't compare them, they are used for different t things, both phones are beast
Hey G gonzalez, if you can afford it, you can have the best of both worlds for sure, but I think most people usually can't afford two flagship devices at once. Btw, are you looking forward to the S23 Ultra, or will you keep your S22 Ultra until the S24 Ultra comes out?
@Dem Crumblies Tech looking foward how the 200mp will be like if it's not clear I'll just stick to my 22s ultra since I have no complaints mate 👍 👌. Just love both phones
@G gonzalez Yea I'm curious too about how much better the 200MP will be. I'm gonna get it and compare it to the S22 Ultra to see. Thanks for watching my video 🙂
How much multitasking has improved samsung brought split screen with samsung note 2 in 2012 now thefoladbles have improved a lot might go for fold 5 or fold 6 as refjnement kicks in
Yep, and I think it's smart to wait for a Fold 5 or Fold 6. The phone can definitely benefit from a wider cover screen, and a slim built-in S Pen later down the road.
@@DemCrumblies dont worry about the higne a test on z flip 3 showed samsung fold and flip hinge are able to take 400000 folds before going down samsung is underrating its hinge
Hey howyoudurrinhunneh, lol that's such a funny username every time I see it. Yea the Fold is definitely worth it if you like to have lots of stuff on the go. I love having the YT player just floating around in a corner while I do other stuff with the extra screen space to play it. Do you find yourself using the cover screen more than you thought you would btw?
@@DemCrumblies I do use the cover screen a lot more than I thought I would, just for the quick messages. Sometimes I forget I have a bigger screen and just find myself on FB or web surfing on it.
@@howyoudurrinhunneh Yea that's what is surprising to me too. The main draw to the fold is the large screen, but I've found myself using the cover screen a lot more than anticipated. When I have proper down time, then I use the inner display for proper entertainment.
Congrats Andres! It's actually a pretty durable phone. You can check out this video to see it being put through some torture tests: ua-cam.com/video/RteJVUwzhWs/v-deo.html
Thanks for showing how the YT videos looks compared to the S22. That was really helpful. More reviews should show real world use like this video. So many YTubers just talk about specs, but real world use is what's important to the buyer.
The official case is kind of stupid for Samsung!! You want a case that protects the whole phone correct? Well a lot of these phone cases including the Samsung official case DOES NOT PROTECT THE HINGE AND IT EVEN STICKS OUT!! If you drop your phone and you will you're going to beat the hell out of that hinge and it's going to get ruined.. So get a case from Amazon that has hinge protection. My favorite is the Spigen S Pen slim pro.. pro means it has the hinge protection. If you don't want the S Pen they got the same version without the S Pen slot The S-Pen slot for the pro version is towards the front of the phone on the fold so it makes it a little bit wider.. when the phone is closed it would be the same with with the S Pen let's say as the s22 ultra.. I mean the S Pen is pretty freaking big.. I have no idea why they made it that big.. why couldn't they make the S Pen the size of the 22 ultra so they can make smaller cases.. I mean next year with the Galaxy fold 5 it looks like they're going to have the S Pen built in which is smaller.. I just don't get it...
I get the frustration. Not only is the hinge left unprotected, I made a review about how the top or front cover kept popping off when I applied pressure to fold it. The way the official case housed the S Pen also felt like an afterthought instead of a properly planned design. With the Pen on the back, wireless charging is more cumbersome, same with placing the phone in a phone holder in the car. I really want a wider Fold so they can house a smaller S Pen in the body like with the S22 Ultra. Hopefully the next generation is more polished with the case and S Pen.
Nice. I heard that maybe the Z Fold 5 may have no crease. That will really appeal to people who don't like the crease. Thanks for watching my video Jesus 🙂
Went from s22 ultra to z fold 4. After about a week decided to return the fold AND KEEP THE S22. Its a great phone but the cover screen is a bit to narrow for me and I don't wanna give up the 10x zoom.
Totally understandable. I've been using the cover screen way more than I expected and yea it's still on the small side compared to foldable phones from other companies. I really hope the Z Fold 5 has a wider screen. I still think the S22 Ultra is the better phone because of that the camera combo and built in S-Pen in the body.
@@inbredhashgas8000 Yea exactly my thoughts. If they can widen the screen, they can choose between including a larger battery too or housing a slim S Pen. Also. the official case for the Z Fold 4 seems like an afterthought. You have to swap out the S Pen holder from the bottom on it so it can lay flat, just silly for a phone at this price.
@@inbredhashgas8000 Yea, and with the S22 you have tons of affordable case options that work nicely. Hopefully the Fold 5 has the full camera layout and a wider screen 🤞
I deliberated so hard over which one to get having been a long term note fan. But I simply love my z fold 4 so much. Its so nice having something that feels different and having two screen size options is just next level.
Hey BestLifeEver, glad you're happy with your Z Fold 4. I think I'm not the biggest power user since I'm on my computer or laptop most of the day, so I haven't always utilized the wide screen that much. However, yea it does come in clutch in those situations where you have to split screen, check your email for a verification code, show someone a photo or video, following along with a tutorial, and framing photos and videos. I just wish they could pack on a telephoto lens like on the S22 Ultra.
@@honeyholly001 You're the perfect user for the Z Fold 4. I also wish they widen the screen on the Z Fold 5 so they can have a slim built-in S Pen like on the S22 Ultra.
@@DemCrumblies yeah there is no need for a fat s pen. Its way better having one that is built in. Ive bought the case that hold the pen it but it doesnt feel very modern having to keep the pen externally.
Hello, please write the name of the application that you used to view your desktop computer from the phone and a link to download if you can from Android
Hi there, the name of the App is AweSun: sun.aweray.com/en/ It is also on the Android Store. I also recommend using Chrome Remote Desktop. Both Apps are free to use, but AweSun also has a paid plan. In my video, I am using the free version.
I love my S22 Ultra but I do want to get thw Fold 5 when it releases this summer. I just like the new form factor and I feel like I won't need to upgrade as often with this new tech.
Hey Zion, yea I'm curious to see how the Fold 5 turns out. I heard it's supposed to be much thinner. If they can have it close completely flat without any gaps, that would be a huge enhancement! Thanks for watching 🙂
I have upgraded to Fold 4 from Xiaomi 11T and I can not complain! Fold 4 is excellent phone with great audio and video experience. Forget about productivity and S-pen, it is multimedia king!
Yea it definitely has the multimedia crown if you mostly use it for that. The ability to double your screen in a second can't be beat. Btw, since you're coming from Xiaomi, did you consider the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold? Which factors made you choose the Z Fold 4 over the Mi Mix Fold?
That's very true. You have to buy a specialty phone holder for your car to use it opened for maps while driving because most standard phone holders can't always accommodate the thickness when folded.
What's interesting is people had no issues with maps or whatever else at the front screen size of the fold. Remember we had this size and smaller ever for a long time. The width of the z fold 4 is similar to the iPhone mini. That phone size has been used with no issues for years before phones became phablet sized. It's all a matter of getting use to it.
I have both S22 ultra and the fold z 4 and some time switch back and forth. Everyday the fold is nice but when I'm going out and I know I'm gonna take pictures ill switch to my s22 ultra, the only thing I don't like is how my watch needs to reset just to use it for the other phone. I do find my self going back to my fold 4 alot more due to down time, I love to open the screen and just browse away or watch movies
Yea I also have both phones, but I'm mostly on the Fold 4 because I don't watch to switch some apps like my authenticator app, whatsapp, wechat, etc. But yea, the S22 Ultra is definitely the better phone for photos with the telephoto lens. The large screen on the Fold 4 is great for checking focus and framing or seeing a live view of all your shots, but I really just wish it had the telephoto lens like the S22 Ultra.
@@DemCrumblies honestly I was wondering why they didn't do that with the fold 4 but I'm sure it would be definitely expensive because it would have to try to incorporate that into the phone and have some room so overall change the design
@@TrevinoAndre Yea I'm really hoping the Z Fold 5 will have wider screens like some of the alternate foldables out there now, and hopefully they can fit a 4th camera lens too.
Hey Hector, great eye! Yea, it's the Withings Scanwatch. It's such a beautiful watch that I've barely worn my other watches since getting it. I did a full review on it if you're interested here: ua-cam.com/video/ugMKvrCJ7Ao/v-deo.html
This fold really isn't big enough if you watch videos such as YT or Disney+. The inner screen needs to be at least 8 inches otherwise if you were to watch a wide screen movie such as Doctor Strange the video is actually smaller than on the S22 Ultra which defeats the purpose of having a foldable. It's definitely better for social media such as Instagram or to read the news, just not good for watching videos, I hope Samsung make the Z Fold 5 bigger, maybe a Z Fold 5 Ultra or something for the power user.
This is an excellent point and something that not enough people pointed out (including myself). Due to the screen's aspect ratio, sometimes watching a video without cropping, isn't that much different than watching on the S22 Ultra unless you rotate it to get a bit more pixels. Like you said, the screen is great for social media. Also good for gaming. Until I held it in my hand, I didn't realize how narrow the phone was when folded. It definitely can go a bit wider to have a wider front cover, larger inner display and increased battery capacity. The Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 actually looks pretty enticing to me too, but I'm not sure how good their software is and how it'd fare in terms of longevity long-term.
exactly as i noticed but questioned earlier. thanks for confirming this. I actually think that this comes down to the deal breaker for me. It blows my mind that the standard 16:9 ratio is smaller on the fold.
This is an excellent and honest video of the Fold 4 that details and demonstrates the use of its many features as well as comparing it with the S22U. It is the best of the very many that I've watched and the first that I have partly watched again for certain aspects of the phone. Thankfully you have provided the Timestamps! I'm tempted but still not convinced it's worth parting with my Note 20u. I worry about fragility/durability and ability to use the front keyboard with my fat fingers! If we had the same generous offers here in Australia as they got in the US I might have jumped! Our pre-order ends 1 Sept, after that I'll have to wait for the S23U haha!
Hey Anton, thank you, I'm glad it was helpful. Yeah it might not be a bad idea to wait until the S23 comes out, then you can decide if it's worth the upgrade to the S23 and hopefully by that time the fold 4 price will drop and they will add more bonuses in Australia to sell them. Then you can decide between the S23 Ultra or Fold 4. It's my first fold and it feels quite durable and premium when folded, but once open I feel like I have to be more mindful of it so that I don't bang into something since it becomes thin in the hands unfolded. I think I'll get over that feeling with time though.
@@DemCrumblies I just checked price discounting here for the Fold3. On 2 Dec last year Samsung offered $500 off and $700 Trade-in Bonus, this is an increase of $700 over the pre-release offer, just 3 months after release! We'll also know much more about the S23U by then as well. So I think i'll kick the decision can down the road for a few months! If you're worried about the strength and durability of the Fold4, check out the latest two youtube videos by "Gupta Information Systems in Hindi " where he freezes his Fold4 and immerses in water, then durability tests it, then subjects it to multiple drops closed/open on his concrete roof. Hard to watch the torture but he's paid for it!
Hey Anton, yep waiting sounds like the right decision. Funny you mentioned the torture test video. I haven't watched that one, but I just watched the torture test video from JerryRigEverything and now I'm no longer worried. He tried to bend it in the opposite direction, and it survived nicely.
I currently have a Note 10+. I'm sure my Note is as wide as the s22. I was playing around with a Fold 4 at BestBuy yesterday. It's alittle narrower than the s22. I'm getting tired of a wide phone. And I do like the feel of the Fold 4. So, I am really looking at this as my next flagship. Ah, I'm a one finger typists anyways. I had a iPhone SE.
Hey Jimmy, while the Fold 4 is narrower for sure, the added depth or thickness can become cumbersome depending on how wide or larger your hand or grip is. Just something to keep in mind. Maybe next time you're at BestBuy, try to play with it for 10 to 15 minutes folded and see how your hands feel. I use it folded most of the time and only open it up for video consumption and occasional multi-tasking.
You know of course it's going to weigh more it's literally two phones hinged together two in one basically that probably also explains the $2,000 that z flip that they also have is not doing very well at all I see all these ads and they're always showing that phone and the price just decreases the most recent one I saw was 400 so that one is not doing well but that was expected first time I saw the flip I thought it was the stupidest thing because there's literally no point to the flip being able to fold unless it's just for the sake of folding. The z fold however has a purpose and a reason. You know I actually saw an article talking about the s22 as well saying that this 22 has reached its lowest price. So I'm guessing the z fold is going to create a new standard for smartphones. I've even read articles where lifelong Apple users are now switching but that doesn't surprise me. If you really take a look at regular smartphones they are not really so different from what they were 5 years ago the z fold is the newest thing I'm happy to see it I really thought we were getting to the end where they just wouldn't be able to do much more with smartphones but they surprised me yet again
Hey Pothead Princess 420, yea you're right about traditional smartphone innovations. There isn't much change to form factor each year, it's usually just the camera module layout that differentiates phones. Even more so when you put on a case and all you can see of the design is the camera module. Foldable phones are definitely a welcome change. It was a bit sad to see LG stop making phones because their scrollable / expandable screen seemed pretty innovative going in that direction instead of folding. Yea, the Flip will really only appeal if you want as small a package as possible, but then they actually have real competition in that department from the Motorola RAZR.
@@DemCrumblies you know I don't remember what company it was but they had a foldable phone too and all that one is is quite literally two phones you buy them separately and you put them in a case that holds them together side by side to make it a fold-out screen even though there's like a huge black line right in the middle cuz of the edges of the phone. I'm pretty sure the z-fold is going to end up sitting a new standard I mean it's so versatile. I also heard somewhere that apple is going to stick with the clamshell so I read somewhere apples going to produce a foldable phone but they're going to only produce ones that are like the z flip I'm sure that won't happen but the article was quite interesting. At this point those Samsung has pretty much perfected the foldable phone the crease is barely noticeable I'm not sure how they did it but they did a great job for sure!
@@MollyKuehl4790 Hey yea I know exactly the phone you're talking about because I was seriously considering it, it's the LG V60 ThinQ. I really liked it because both screens were wide. I really like the Z Fold, but I hope they can make the screens a little bit wider next time kinda like how it was on the LG V60 or on the xiaomi mi mix fold 2. Samsung is definitely ahead with Foldables and most companies are playing catchup now, but it will be great to see which improvements we get as more competition enters.
Yes, this new version is more of an enhancement vs. an overhaul. Aside from the higher MP camera, slight body change, I think the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is the other major change.
Since owning a zfold4 since launch, I like the phone very much but I think I'm kinda over it, I'm waiting for s23 ultra to be launched. Using the zf4 daily I've noticed that I use the outer screen probably 90% of the time and I'm really missing a more usable phone without having to unfold it...
I feel exactly the same D. Desalvo. I'm thinking about making a follow-up video about my experience with the Z Fold 4, because, like you, I also use the cover screen most of the times, so I'm not using this phone to its full potential. Sure, it comes in handy sometimes to have such a large screen in about one second, but if most of the times I'm using the cover screen, may as well use a phone with a large screen. I also miss having a telephoto lens like on the Ultra.
@@New_life61 Hey D. Desalvo, I made a video about my thoughts on the Z Fold 4 after about 5 months. Covered most of the stuff we talked about I think. Link is here if you want to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/Qx-f6OpYxw0/v-deo.html
I love my Ultra, primarily for the camera system. Man if the Fold incorperates the same quality of cameras im all in on Foldables. Maybe for the Fold 5...or 6.
Thank you very much for the compliment and sub Amarnath 🙂 That is really high praise, I truly appreciate it and appreciate you choosing to watch my video!
As much as this phone intruiges me (as someone who used to be vehemently opposed to foldables) I still don't know if it's the right choice for me. I work a manual labor job which is often pretty dusty and dirty which gives me major concerns for the Fold. I'll just hang onto my S22 Ultra for now. I was considering picking one up since I'm probably going to be skipping the iPhone this year due to the ESim which seems like a nightmare for someone who switches between phones often.
Yea if you're doing a lot of manual labor then you're right, it may not be the best phone. I did see the Z Fold 4 torture test on the JerryRigEverything channel and he subjected it to dirt and dust and it seemed to hold up pretty well, but that was a few minutes of testing so we don't know long term impacts say you were using it on the job site every day. I still think the S22 Ultra is an amazing phone because it's a bigger battery, has a telephoto zoom lens, has a built-in S Pen and better IP rating. Good point about eSim, also not all carriers support it yet, but I guess that will change as more and more phones adopt it.
I hate the fold. Texting and typing on this thing is garbage. Just traded mine in for the S22 ultra. Verizon gave me $800 for it so I was like "Finally!"
Lol yea texting on the cover screen can be tricky, but it's OK for me with swiping to text. When it's opened up I have to use swiping on a small floating keyboard to make it easy.
I own the s22 ultra and the fold 3. I love them both. S22 ultra has the better battery, camera, and Bluetooth built in spen. Fold 3 has spen but not the air gestures. Fold 3 multitasking is on another level though now that we have the one ui 4.1.1 update same as the fold 4 with the bottom taskbar. I'm loving it.
That's great they eventually rolled out the update to the Fold 3 to take care of those customers too. But yea, having the built-in S Pen on the S22 Ultra is such a convenience, plus the additional telephoto camera.
@@CONCEITEDBEAUTY100 ikr I have it on my fold 4 currently as the only case I use but other people want it built in for convenience but I prefer the bigger fold pen and the way they have it now with the case because the smaller spen on the s22 ultra hurts my fingers after extended writing.
Yea I bought the official Samsung case, but the S Pen holder was under the case and once you remove the pen, if you don't also remove the pen holder, it rocks like crazy. I've seen other cases where the pen is held on the size, but it adds a lot of bulk. I heard the new Z Fold 5 may have it in body from rumors this year. Let's see.
@@DemCrumblies Samsung Flip 3 Btw I sail for fun. The thing stays in my pants pocket securely. Battery life could be better but not a deal breaker. The Fold though, love that large display
@@kabysummit5801 The Flip line is interesting to me because you can have a full screen phone with half the size, but yea the battery capacity probably won't be enough for me currently. How's the screen held up so far? The large display is amazing for certain apps, especially gaming, but due to the aspect ratio, there's usually horizontal black bars when viewing 16:9 videos.
@@DemCrumblies Flip 3 still looks and works like new. Fabulous phone imo. For an active person, this form factor is ingenious. The Fold4 is so fire and tempting. A game changer. I will be happy to give away my iPad mini too and have everything on the fold. Also with features like Dex and Chrome cast etc., I may even use the laptop less and watch TV while multitasking on emails, Whatsapp. Lifestyle phone.
@Kaby Summit Great to hear about your screen. Looks like they have gotten the screens to a good place. I saw someone mention that their screen cracked when opening it in cold weather on the Z Fold 3, so I'll be looking to see how the screen on the Fold 4 works out in these cold Canadian Winters. But yea, from what you said, you sound like the ideal user for a Fold 😉
I'm sorry it isn't helpful to you. However, if you feel that these phones are totally different and cannot be compared, isn't it strange to watch a video related to something you think cannot be compared?
You're definitely going to make some enemies with that statement lol, but I kinda get you. I made this video after using the Z Fold 4 for a few months and mentioned that I went back to my S23 Ultra: ua-cam.com/video/Qx-f6OpYxw0/v-deo.html
Hey Kevin, sorry for the bad quality image, but I took it quick to demo: drive.google.com/file/d/1D11b9Jf8-a5loUvHhhx7V7XNB_pzXw5j/view?usp=share_link When you open the Z Fold 4 and watch YT, it's slighter smaller in size than the S22 Ultra (Keep in mind that on the S22 Ultra I didn't full screen because it would crop the image to fit, so the image could look even larger on the S22 Ultra) When you open the Z Fold 4, then rotate it and watch YT in full screen, it's much larger than the S22 Ultra (Again I didn't zoom to fit the screen on the S22 Ultra because it would crop the image)
@@DemCrumblies just looked at your picture, thanks again Dem. I forgot that the ratio is actually longer on the standard phone, so you will still get vertical bars instead of horizontal bars...makes me want to think about the fold again!
Im getting this later this month and it is a blessing since I did something stupid and went from galaxy a10e to this LG stylo for 2-3 years and now im excited to get back on galaxy
I've heard rumors that the Z Fold 5 will have no crease and possibly a built-in S Pen in the body. Just rumors though. I really wish they would add a 10X camera personally and the S Pen.
I went from the S20 ultra to the zfold 4. I love my s20 ultra but I really love zfold 4. I'm very surprised how good the camera is on the zfold. I've always had the traditional slab phones. Was going to wait for the s23 ultra. Loving the SPen features. My last SPen experience was with the galaxy note 3. I find the zfold fits in pockets way better than the S20 ultra. However I do find I use the cover screen alot. Another feature I love it the flex mode! 😄
That's a pretty big jump. Did you get the S Pen Fold Edition, or do you have the S Pen Pro? I just learned that the Fold Edition Pen doesn't connect by Bluetooth, so certain features like triggering the camera remotely doesn't function with the Fold Edition S Pen. Which color did you get btw, and did you put a case on yours?
@@DemCrumblies hey there! Thanks for the reply. Yes I preorded beige which I love! I just got the SPen fold edition with the interchangeable case with the stand. I brought black. The case fits firmly with no problems. 👍
@@samandish I ended up returning my case because my front cover was prone to popping out easily. Great to hear you had haven't had any issues with your case. Enjoy!
@@DemCrumblies yes I did watch your video about that and was surprised you encountered that problem. The desplay screen part of the case doesn't move at all, I did all the tests that you demonstrated, won't budge. Must be a flaw you got. Would be interesting if the flaw exists with certain colours. I did also purchased a cheap clear TPU case and the cover screen component does flop around too much.
@@samandish It's really curious because I'm hearing some people say they had the issue and some say there's no issue. I was going to attempt to swap cases, but the Samsung store rep said that he had a handful of people complain about the same issue and some resorted to only using the back cover and ditching the front cover completely, so I just figured I'd save the time and go back to the clear RingKe case. But yea, the form factor is much more manageable in the hand and pocket so far.
I returned my Fold 4 and the main reason is because not all apps are fully optimized yet for the folding phones. Especially on social media apps. They just zoomed in the app rather than optimize the interface of the apps even if you change the aspect ratio in the settings. A lot of contents that you see in the social media apps are also either cut out or just too big and covers the whole app. I also use Nova Launcher in my previous Samsung phone, and unfortunately that is also not optimized. Also the front screen is too narrow for me. Besides these personal issues, it's a beauty of a premium looking folding phone with crystal clear display and super fast operating system. Nine out of ten times you won't notice the crease either, you will see at it and get used to it just like the notch. If they only optimize the user interface of the social media apps, and make the folding phone a little bit shorter and wider this would be a no brainer.
Hey Lashrom, I hear you. The phone looks and feels super premium, but yea some popular needs need better optimization to give submenus or sub layouts to truly make it a fantastic experience. I can use the front screen, but once I put on a protective case, it makes front screen usage a bit more challenging to tap the far edges of the screen. I really hope that the next version has slightly wider screens so that it's even wider unfolded. If they can make the screen wider, maybe they can fit in a slim s pen too later. Btw, which phone did you go back to? The S22 Ultra, or something else?
@@DemCrumblies Agree with you. And I'm still rocking the S10 haha. Till now it's doing its job. But tempting to buy S22 Ultra right away though. 6 months seems far away to wait for S23 Ultra but time goes fast too.
@@Lashrom Yea you're right to wait until the S23 Ultra comes out. Plus, if you're not a fan of the S23's new look or don't think there are significant upgrades over the S22 Ultra, you can still get the S22 Ultra on sale at that time when they're trying to clear them out.
Bad optimization for Nova is a no go for me, not that I envision myself getting a Fold over an S Ultra (if this becomes the defacto Note series going forward).
I think I would keep the S22 Ultra and wait next February until the S23 Ultra comes out. Then you can decide if you want to trade your S22 Ultra for the 23 Ultra, and if the S23 Ultra doesn't seem like a big enough upgrade for you, you could consider the Z Fold 4, since hopefully it would be a bit discounted by then too. The S22 Ultra has tons of stuff going for it: - Built-in S Pen - Telephoto camera for 10X Optical Zoom - Slightly Higher Peak Brightness - Larger battery capacity
@@stuffandthangs3953 Yea it is unique. Two things to keep in mind though. If you use your phone for maps or directions while driving, you'll likely want to buy a special phone holder for the Fold since the front screen is a bit small for maps. Second thing is, if you always use your phone in bed before going to bed, if you leave it folded, it can get tiring to hold in your hand with the thickness, and unfolding it in bed doesn't make it an easy one-handed operation for night time winding down. If those points don't matter to you at all, then it'll be a great phone to have. I use the wider screen all the time for UA-cam and multi-tasking between apps.
@@DemCrumblies well I have a head unit with Android auto so that wouldn't matter. I just got this phone in February and the battery life on it is decent. I love the s22 ultra though. Such a tough choice.
@@stuffandthangs3953 Got it, yea then the Fold 4 could be a good option. Even though the stand out feature is the folding screen, most of the day I use the front screen while I'm on the go for texting, quick emails, etc., so the battery life is actually better on this phone than the S22 Ultra only because the battery on this phone is powering a much smaller front screen most of the times, so it can last longer.
Oh boy I thought I had that set to show that the Z Fold 4 had the 8+ and the S22 was the 8. I will blur out that information, add in the caption and update my pinned comment. Thanks for pointing it out Remmi : )
Hey Allan, thanks for the suggestion. I might do that for the upcoming Galaxy phones. Aside from the usual settings like larger fonts, contrast settings, narration, are there any areas in specific that you'd like to see covered?
Samsung claims a minimum of 200,000 folds for the device life. That works out to around 40,000 folds per year, which works out to 109 folds per day. I doubt most people are opening and closing this thing 109 times per day, so theoretically, it should hold up. However, real world performance is another story.
@Horizon Plays you're welcome. I'd see what others say too, but after using it for 5 months, I have no issues with the screen so far. I actually made a video about my experience with the z fold 4 after 5 months. Maybe watch that to see if my points make sense to you before you consider it. I'm actually looking forward to the S23 Ultra now.
I can't really tell a difference in focusing speed, they are both very quick. I still give the edge to the S22 Ultra though because it has a 108 MP sensor compared to the Z Fold 4's 50 MP sensor. Also, the S22 Ultra has a 10X optical lens, and the Z Fold 4 tops out at 3X optical. The S22 Ultra is just better all around for most shooting scenarios.
Lol yea, that was a really helpful tip. I don't know why Samsung doesn't put that feature in the settings. Many people want to watch the front cover to save battery life and keep it at 90 degrees.
Hey thanks for the comparison! Can you tell me if the the beige Z fold 4 has any pinkish hues to it and if the gold trim has any rose gold hues or if it's champagne gold? Cannot have a chance to see it in person unfortunately. I saw in person the official sand cover for it and it's definitely pinkish. Still deciding in between beige and gray green which one to pick...tough choice!
The beige color is definitely more on the champagne side. Here are some photos I took in natural light: drive.google.com/file/d/1a6DWURr3vyzky4vKZCMQ4YC5NV-pSLCl/view?usp=share_link and drive.google.com/file/d/1aD6pQvXGQFO8LDoL0s-tQac7_gnnyV31/view?usp=share_link It's more on the champagne side I think.
@@DemCrumblies awesome thanks! That's the hue I was hoping for. I was worried it was more rose gold. I was on the fence in between beige and gray green but will get the beige now. I think it looks cool and classy. Many thanks!
@@MarcoMarfia I hope I captured the color correctly for you. It looks a bit different in different lighting conditions (indoors, outside, warm lights, cool lights etc.). I hope you get a good deal on it with discounts and possible trade-ins. Btw, not sure where you're from, but I was able to get Airmiles rewards when I purchased mine. Hopefully Samsung has some partnership deals where you're at too. Good luck!
I upgraded to the fold 4 from the s22 ultra and I’m not disappointed…but I do miss the 10x optical and the macro pics the 22ultra can take…and about the battery life ..I take pics watch UA-cam have the brightness up all the time and I get better battery life on this phone than I did on my 22ultra but it does depend on how u use your phone ..I’ve had the fold 4 since august 22 and it’s probably the best phone I’ve had when it comes the an all around do everything u need phone..plus it’s just different from every other phone…but I guess it’s all subjective…great video and great work.
@@kevinoverton7846 Thanks Kevin! One thing I didn't connect while I made this video is that I still use the cover screen for most of the time since I can easily text, email and read the news on the cover screen. I only open the phone up for full screen for certain things like UA-cam videos or certain apps, but even then I might watch some UA-cam videos on the cover screen if I'm mostly just using it for background noise or music and I don't need to see the video. So depending on how you often you use the full unfolded screen and how often you use the cover screen, it's definitely possible to have better battery life on the Z Fold 4 than the S22 Ultra, since the S22 Ultra's battery MUST always power that large display, whereas with the Fold 4, it's powering both a large screen and a much smaller screen than the S22 Ultra (in my case, it powers the smaller screen most of the time).
@@DemCrumblies I too use the cover screen more for texting emails maps exe..didn’t think I would but the cover screen works very well..especially for one handed use…I can say u really can’t go wrong with either one lol
@@kevinoverton7846 Yep, I was surprised at how often I found myself using it. It's great to have the versatility to use either screen any time you want.
I like the sturdiness of the ultra and the camera and battery life exceed the fold. The ultra will last many years with technology advances. The fold will eventually split and crack in the middle where it folds. While my ultra won't even have a scratch. Built in s-pen is also amazing. Ultra is the best phone on the market by far.
The S22 Ultra does have a lot of benefits going for it like the telephoto lens and built in S Pen for sure. I know previous fold versions had the crease issue, but I'm not sure how the Z Fold 4 will fare. I guess also if you trade your phone every year for the next model, you will not reach the folding life of the phone.
@@jasjas8232 Not sure if you've seen this video before, but it's pretty interesting how much damage it can handle: ua-cam.com/video/RteJVUwzhWs/v-deo.html&vl=en
@@DemCrumblies battery not bad because it hold up better than the s22 ultra. But will see..they won't change everything..because they got the spen to think how to get inside. The camera. The outside display making it bit larger. Maybe getting the phone thinner so so many things. For me if they just upgrade the cam and have the outside display a but wider I'm ok.
@@rayonwilliamssportsandfun2106 Yea I agree with you, if they could add a telephoto and make the cover screen slightly wider, that would be so much better. If they can make the screens wider, then they could fit the S Pen inside maybe too.
Yea you can use it flat for sure, but if you wanted to have it kind of angled and without the crease, then you have to use a work-around to get it at various angles.
I feel that. The Fold is wonderful, premium and so unique being able to double the screen like that. But I'm looking forward to the S23 and going back to that form factor with a built in S Pen in the body and the telephoto lens. I don't use the Z Fold (unfolded) as much as I thought I would. There's definitely times it comes in handy when split screening certain apps for productivity or for remoting into a computer, but those events are so infrequent that I'm not making the most out of this phone.
@@DemCrumblies yea really couldn’t have said it better. The flip seems more functional because you have to unfold it to use it but I don’t want to go down in specs to try it.
@@Caesar__99 Yea and if you have to open the Flip to use it, might as well just stick with the S22 Ultra fully spec'd out unless you care a lot about size and weight.
I kinda thought the same before I got it because I like designs to be seamless, but it gets less noticeable after a while. You really see it in dark backgrounds. I heard the Z Fold 5 is supposed to have no crease, but only time will tell if that's true.
Hey Steven, yep you're right. When I did the specs, I copied and pasted them, but forgot to update the CPU spec for the S22 Ultra and another spec, so I blurred it out to prevent confusion. Sorry about that, but you can check this site for a quick specs comparison: www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S22-Ultra,Samsung-Galaxy-Z-Fold-4/phones/11761,11909
Did you get a 1 or 2 year Samsung Care+ Plan? Here in the Philippines, the pre-order promo includes a free 1 year Samsung Care+ but you can extend it to a 2 year plan for $200 which is 50% off included in the promo, originally a 2 year SC+ is $400. Do you think it's worth it to upgrade to a 2 year SC+ for $200, I'm planning to trade-in my S22(regular). Thanks!
Hey Paolo, mine came with the 1 year plan I believe, but I didn't upgrade it to two years because I will likely trade it in for the Z Fold 5 next year to review, and I wasn't sure if the warranty would transfer over. If you plan on keeping your phone for 2 years at least, I think it would be worth the upgrade, especially if it is your first foldable phone just in case anything goes wrong like you drop it, flex the screen too much, etc.
Hey SolidBoss7, that wallpaper is actually the wallpaper that comes with the Fold, but I have curtains in that room that reflected off the screen that made it look that way.
Hi Shar Marie, the zoom works well in tab mode. Overall, it's just great for taking photos and videos in tab mode because you can see what's in focus and frame better. I haven't really used this phone for content creation since I have a dedicated camera. This phone may be trickier to use for static shots like overhead or on an tripod since it's thicker and most phone holders cannot accommodate the size (especially if you put a case on it). If you unfold it to make it thinner, you run into a problem again where most phone holders cannot accommodate a phone this wide. If you want to use it on the go with a gimbal, you might run into similar issues. A traditional form factor phone may be easier for content creation since most accessories are designed for non-folding phones.
Was seriously considering purchasing the fold 4 but had reservations. I had an uber trip where the driver was displaying his map on the fold...thought...done! I gotta get me wanna dem. Started researching and came upon this video. For me: Fold: 1. Cool factor? fold is 2nd to none. 2. Multi screen: huge bonus. 3. Swipe mode for texting with one finger is probably much easier on the front screen due to a smaller width (thumb can reach full keyboard easily.) 4. Gaming looks more fun. 5. Sound probably is best of any phone. 6. Camera: Having subjects watch their framing is yoooooj! S22: 1. in 16:9 ratio, actually a bigger screen! 2. Camera options with zoom much better (question is if it's 3x optical and then digitally augmented, is it really better? seems so) 3. Fits in pocket better. 4. no huge transition issues from Note 10. 5. pen is integrated. Answer after reading reviews etc I'm not impressed with either enough to purchase one from the note 10. I wanted to give my son my ten for Christmas so that he can upgrade his note 8, but honestly, when I saw the standard 16:9 video was actually smaller on the fold it broke my heart. I was really leaning towards it. Well, maybe not actually broke my heart...just a slight electrical shock. I'll probably go play at best buy and see if I can pull the trigger, but I thought Elon was bringing out the Pi phone soon and was waiting for that. Apparently T-mobile is working with starlink to connect. Elon has been a bit busy lately with twitter, so Pi is probably farther on the horizon. I'll update my thoughts and actions if anyone is interested.
Hey Kevin, yea best thing is to try it out in person to know for sure. I definitely feel like the Fold 4 should have had a slightly wider screen like some of the phones coming out from Xiaomi and Honor. I think the S22 Ultra still has lots going for it (telephoto camera, built in S-Pen in the body, on sale now too). I don't think anyone should rush to get the Z Fold 4 unless you really think you will unfold the screen often to utilise it. I'm actually surprised that I use the cover screen most of the time. Yea the huge screen does in handy for certain situations, but not enough for me to say it's worth it. I'm probably not the power user that would typically buy a Fold phone though.
I think you are confusing the 16:9, by no means does the fold have the smaller screen in 16:9 content, in fact, if you put 16:9 on the 22U and zoom in, in addition to losing the content, the screen is still fine smaller, I can say that because one of my interests in the fold is the consumption of content, mainly animes that are 16:9, I put the 22U and the fold 4 side by side running darling in the franxx both without the zoom, and man, the the fold's screen is considerably larger than the 22U's.
@@hyllen Hey Hyllen, I maybe didn't specify or show clearly in the video, but I just measured the same video on both phones and the S22 Ultra has a slightly larger video size when measured diagonally even without zooming in to fill the vertical black bars on the side (about 15 CM for the S22 Ultra vs 14 CM for the Z Fold 4). However when the same video is put full screen on the Z Fold 4 and when the phone is opened up and rotated, the Z Fold 4 is indeed quite larger at around 17 CM diagonally. Hope that makes sense.
Team S22 Ultra is a great team to be on, and when the S23 Ultra comes out, I'll be eyeing it for the better camera selection and built in S-Pen. Is the Flip 4 your first foldable phone btw?
@@juanjoserinconrodriguez7493 Even though the Z Fold 4 has a more efficient chipset, if the user mostly uses the larger inner display, the battery will deplete faster regardless of how efficient the chipset is when compared to a phone with a smaller screen.
@@DemCrumblies a Huawei P30 pro. Really good phone for a thousand bucks. This one has the wow factor though. I cracked the screen on the p30 though and it was too expensive to replace.
Watching in my Z Fold 4 🙂
Nice! Which color did you get, and which phone did you upgrade from?
@@DemCrumblies Beige and upgraded from IPhone 12 Pro max
Great color choice. That is a pretty big jump to go from iOS to Android. How are you getting accustomed to Android, or did you use it before you made the switch to Apple?
@@DemCrumblies yes i have used it before. Normally i switch back and forth every other yr or so lol. So far I like it
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Wow this video was amazing, I enjoyed every bit of it, you showed a lot of reasons why I chose the fold 4 over the s22 ultra (exynos)
Thanks ukpai emmanuel! Btw, I have updated my pinned comment to reflect the Exynos 2200 used in Europe and Asia, thank you for pointing that out. Did you own the S22 Ultra before and switch it with the Fold 4?
Hopefully this video helps make the decision easier if you are considering the Z Fold 4. Thanks for watching! Please consider subscribing if you like this video 🙂
➡➡Also, check out my first look at the S23 Ultra: ua-cam.com/video/_t0RCZogO8s/v-deo.html
NOTE: The S22 Ultra Has a SD 8 Gen 1 & Exynos 2200 in some areas.
Yeah and the Exynos version SUCKS. So stuttery. It's one of the reasons I went for the Fold 4. I wanted that Snapdragon processor.
@@adamski101 Hey Adam, yea that's what I've heard too. I'm glad I never had to use the Exynos version. Is the Fold 4 your first foldable btw?
You did such a great job in explaining the day to day tasks that people would do and how to maximize the usage of the inner screen compared to other youtubers that does videos on the Fold 4.
Thank you for watching my video Cube. I'm happy it was useful to you. My videos are very long because I try to cover things I would want to know if I was going to spend that much money on a phone, but other UA-camrs probably aim to have shorter length videos. Thanks for sticking through all of it though!
I Used s22 ultra and Z fold 4, and i'm so happy with the z fold 4.
I'm in love with the WOW effect this phone have, + great camera (compared to my z fold 2) not as good as s22 ultra but very good still.
Z fold 4 feels better in the hand in my opinion, easier to hold,
and the z fold 4 is sooooo fast, never got a single suttler, and no crash yet. so cool
Yep, it was definitely faster in some areas, and you're right no crashes or stutters yet too on my end. It's my first foldable device. Did you go from Z Fold 2 to S22 Ultra to Z Fold 4? Btw, which case are you using on your Z Fold 4?
@@DemCrumblies Yep, i went from a z fold 2 to a s22 ultra to a fold 4, i'm using stylus case, but i'm waiting for my dbrand skin, I usually use my phones naked, i never drop themp
@@lucaspetiot9620 You're living the brave life lol. I haven't dropped a phone yet, but there have been times when I went to pick one up without paying attention and it slid out a bit and hit a table from a few inches so now I just put on clear cases. I think you made a solid decision to go from Fold 2 to Fold 4. I haven't used any previous Fold devices, but from what I've heard, the Fold 4 improves in many areas and it feels like a polished experience so far coming from a first time user. Btw, how did you find your Fold 2 in cold weather? How did the screen hold up? I saw one guy say that his screen cracked opening the Fold 3 in cold weather. Gonna get cold in a few months where I live, so I'll see how my true that is.
Yea they feel very premium too.
I have the Note 20 Ultra, which is roughly the same size and functionality as S22.
I've only recently started using and appreciating the SPen, but always found myself zooming in to documents to make make notes.
Also, the phone is big. its width and height makes it almost unpocketable, and not many phone pouches were large enough for the Note.
I started feeling that I want more real estate, yet in a smaller form factor.
Well, I guess time has come to finally pull the trigger on the FOLD.
Thanks for the video!
Hey Jahonius, glad you found the video helpful! Yes, the Z Fold 4 will suit your needs. You'll just have to be selective in the case or cover you choose if you want to house the S Pen on the body at all times. Good luck!
Note20ultra here, too... one thing to consider is the No20U has excellent macro focus, which i *think the Fold 4 gives up 💁♂️
@@georgehofgren6123 Hey George, I haven't used the No20U, but I took a quick snap using the 3X camera lens. Minimum focus distance seems to be around 3 inches away from my quick test. Here's what I got: drive.google.com/file/d/1LRE6_K9M40DrR2GGTn701Ey--Kh3Fc5C/view?usp=sharing
Thanks for the review. Both phones are technical marvels, and the S22 Ultra makes more sense as a mainstream choice. I went to the Fold 4 from the S22 Ultra for the combo phone/Mini tablet experience. After all these years with the slab style, the Fold 4's combo tablet style is a fresh and very welcome change.
Hi Jim, you're 100% right about both phones being flagship devices. Once they can get Fold prices more reasonable in the future, it'll be ready for mainstream because right now it feel fluid enough in use for that, just the price makes it out of reach for most people.
Btw, did you see the torture test from JerryRigEverything YT channel? The Fold 4 is way more durable than I thought it was after watching that video.
Hello jim i am thinking to make the opposite choise. i have z fold 4 and i want to buy the s22 ultra. because of your different change, can you give me a little review explaining the pros and cons of your choice and why you will never go back to the s22 ultra. will be helpfull for me .
thanks and sorry for my english :)
@@losservatoreosservato Hi Angelo -- The S22 Ultra is an excellent phone which you would be happy to own. I liked the S22 very much -- I just wanted to go back to the "mini -tablet" capabilities of the Fold. As a candy-bar sytle phone, the S22 Ultra is second to none. You can't go wrong.
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Can you help me decide? I want the tablet form factor of galaxy fold 4 however I need a phone with good camera zoom (will be using it on a series of concert i’ll be attending). Do you think s22 ultra works better for my case or galaxy fold z 4 would also work?
Hey Panda, if zoom is important, I would go to the S22 Ultra without question. There's been many times where I wanted that extra focal length reach, but couldn't get it with the Z Fold 4. Yea the Z Fold 4 is great for framing photos and videos and checking focus, but that lack of a telephoto lens is pretty major for me.
Great review. I had the Z Fold 3 but sold it for the s22 ultra due to poor battery life. The s22 ultra's battery life was great, but I have now switched to the Z Fold 4. I am selling my s22 ultra and made my own comparisons while it is here, and I am glad I bought the Z fold 4. The battery life is excellent. I work long12 hr shifts, and I find that the Z Fold 4 will last me the entire shift, whereas the z fold 3 used to die halfway into my work shift. The Z fold 4's battery life is on par with the S22 Ultra! Phenomenal!
Which one do you like better?
Hey Remy, yea I found the battery life on the Z Fold 4 pretty surprising since it's a lower capacity battery than on my S22 Ultra. One of the things I noticed about my usage is that I use the front screen wayyy more than I thought I would for things like texting, checking emails, quick browsing, etc. I only open it up really to take photos and to watch UA-cam and sometimes with multi-tasking. So the battery is mostly powering the much smaller screen and lasting longer for me. Glad to hear the battery is lasting you on your 12 hour shifts.
I love the Fold 4 and the ability to double the viewing or working area within a second (really helpful when framing and reviewing photos) for me. However, I don't find myself using the screen unfolded as much as I thought I would since the front screen is so capable for most of my tasks. They're both great phones, but I would likely choose the S22 Ultra since it has the S Pen built right into the body and it has the telephoto lens, so it's a better all-rounder for my use. I do find that the sound is much better on the Fold 4 though since it has two large speaker grills.
Yasssss the battery life on this z fold 4 is wonderful I love itttt
The camera really cements the s22 Ultra, I think. Been looking at both due to holiday sales, think I might go s22 Ultra and then see how the 23/Fold5 is and potentially trade up.
Yea that sounds like a good decision. Having that camera combo really covers almost any shooting situation.
Considering the same thing. I currently have the z Fold3. However I do not use the inside as much and I am already on my 2nd one since it came out due to the inner screen protector coming off badly for my first one. And now I gotta get a new one again cause it fell and screen cracked. Was looking at fold 4..however was told its not much of a upgrade..plus the down payment is a lot more then the S22Ultra. Also, I hear the s22U has a great battery and great cameras..which I look for especially when going to concerts.
@@themusiclover8440 I haven't had this Fold 4 long enough to say that I won't encounter the screen protector issues, but so far no issues with it. I also find myself using the cover screen most of the time since it's usable, so the battery life is good since it's just powering that smaller screen. If you're into concert photography too, I think the S22 Ultra is better, plus it should have a better discount right now.
i think, the Galaxy Z Fold4 sound better than Galaxy S22Ultra and Galaxy S21 Ultra Sound better than S22 Ultra too😦
Hey អៀ ធារ៉ា_Ear Theara, I tried to capture how the sound felt on video, but it sounds pretty similar. However, in real life when you listen to both, the Z Fold 4 sounded a bit fuller because of the top and bottom speakers. Either way, both are great sounding speakers, just the Fold 4 has a slight advantage for me. I never owned the S21 Ultra, the S22 Ultra was my first Samsung phone actually. Before this one I was using the Sony Xperia XZ Premium, which is another squarish type of design that I loved.
i have s22 ultra but i got a great deal with my provider to upgrade with z fold 4. I had 30 days return policy. When I got the phone im really excited because of its uniqueness and big screen. 3 days upon using it im having doubt, the camera is not as good as my older s22 ultra and i barely use the fold 4 bigger screen. remiinds me that z fold 4 has only outer screen is hardened glass surface on the bigger screen is thin glass. easy to scratch. besides the weight of z fold 4 with casing is heavy. I enjoyed both of them but I returned my new z fold 4 on the 14th day of using it. back to my old reliable s22 ultra. and Im happy with it.
Hey Evangeline, yea, I also found the same thing as you about how often I was using the inner display. I actually made a video about my thoughts after using it for 5 months: ua-cam.com/video/Qx-f6OpYxw0/v-deo.html
Not having a 10X zoom like on the S22U definitely was missed on the Z Fold 4. Kinda like you don't realize how much you use it, til it's gone. The S22U is still such a a great phone. I'm going to be comparing the S22U against the new S23 Ultra this week, but the upgrade really isn't necessary unless you want more battery life and faster opening of apps and games.
Coming from an LGv60 duel screen the fold4 was a nice upgrade. Especially the UI interface, app functionality, front screen and 1 large screen when open. I do miss having 2 full 6.8in screens for multitasking though.
Oh yes the LG V60, I remember wanting that phone so bad when I first saw it come out. I also wish the Fold 4's screen was slighter wider too.
Holy fuvk same upgrade path as me ! And I agree with you on everything. Especially the dual case letting it operate as a stand when needed. God I wished more companies went with the dual screen case concept to get more people used to phones that aren't just a slab.
I love my fold 4 tho. So far so good, much cleaner better smoother UI. Makes me wish the weird quirks from the v60 a bit tho.
The phones charge faster using more watts with the less battery they have. Try testing them below 30% to see the max speed and wattage possible.
Thanks @RealJay I'll try that out and see if I get a charging boost.
Agree, however even on lower battery I can only get 19-21W using a Watt USB C cable. After 50% it says it drops to 13-15W then 9W at 80% or above. I don't have a official Samsung 25 or 45w brick but I have a PPS and PD type C brick that can do 100W. I wonder if it is a software issue to protect battery charging health so they don't have another note 7 issue with folds. Otherwise charging speed is still fast compared to me coming from OnePlus 8 Pro with 30W charging.
@@HOMERUN1379 Yep, there is truth to that. I tried to change it the Fold 4 today when it was at 25% battery and I saw charging speeds of 17 to 18.5 watts usually. Which brand of charger are you using Tyler? I'm using a Spigen Power Arc one rated for 45 W. You might be on to something about battery protection, maybe it's for battery protection and longevity to charge in wattage tiers. So the fast charge kicks in to get you out of a pinch, then it normalizes later for the rest of the charge? I haven't owned any of the other flagships with 65W or 80W charging to know if they charge in the same manner and how battery performance is like on those devices long-term.
Had s22 ultra now fold 4. Fold 4 experience is quite new. Feels like a real change after so many years.
Yea as my first foldable phone too, it felt like a unique experience.
Same as you, Just switched from 22 ultra to fold 4 3 weeks ago. Overall it's great, and I feel like it runs more smoother thank 22 ultra.
@@Wang.812 How do you find that the battery life compares to your S22 so far? For me, it's been better because I've found myself using the cover screen more than I thought I would.
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Its the same what note was
Why not get both like I did for different things to do, I love both phones. Main phone is z4 my offhand is 22ultra. I wouldn't compare them, they are used for different t things, both phones are beast
Hey G gonzalez, if you can afford it, you can have the best of both worlds for sure, but I think most people usually can't afford two flagship devices at once. Btw, are you looking forward to the S23 Ultra, or will you keep your S22 Ultra until the S24 Ultra comes out?
@Dem Crumblies Tech looking foward how the 200mp will be like if it's not clear I'll just stick to my 22s ultra since I have no complaints mate 👍 👌. Just love both phones
@G gonzalez Yea I'm curious too about how much better the 200MP will be. I'm gonna get it and compare it to the S22 Ultra to see. Thanks for watching my video 🙂
@Dem Crumblies Tech yeah I subscribe, looking forward for your video once the s23 comes out, thanks for replaying back mate!❤
@@PrynceJomar Awesome, thanks for the sub and support!
How much multitasking has improved samsung brought split screen with samsung note 2 in 2012 now thefoladbles have improved a lot might go for fold 5 or fold 6 as refjnement kicks in
Yep, and I think it's smart to wait for a Fold 5 or Fold 6. The phone can definitely benefit from a wider cover screen, and a slim built-in S Pen later down the road.
@@DemCrumblies dont worry about the higne a test on z flip 3 showed samsung fold and flip hinge are able to take 400000 folds before going down samsung is underrating its hinge
@@lggrover3053 Oh yea. I also remember watching JerryRigEverything's channel where he really tested the hinge extremely and it was fine.
I have both until Tuesday. The Ultra was almost perfect but I really wanted the Fold and do not regret buying it.
Hey howyoudurrinhunneh, lol that's such a funny username every time I see it. Yea the Fold is definitely worth it if you like to have lots of stuff on the go. I love having the YT player just floating around in a corner while I do other stuff with the extra screen space to play it. Do you find yourself using the cover screen more than you thought you would btw?
@@DemCrumblies
I do use the cover screen a lot more than I thought I would, just for the quick messages. Sometimes I forget I have a bigger screen and just find myself on FB or web surfing on it.
@@howyoudurrinhunneh Yea that's what is surprising to me too. The main draw to the fold is the large screen, but I've found myself using the cover screen a lot more than anticipated. When I have proper down time, then I use the inner display for proper entertainment.
that's why this phone is excellent and lasts even longer than it should
@@ThepurposeofTime Yep, they are both premium looking and feeling devices too.
I just got the Z Fold 4, it's a beautiful device but I'm so damn scared to break it.😅
Congrats Andres! It's actually a pretty durable phone. You can check out this video to see it being put through some torture tests: ua-cam.com/video/RteJVUwzhWs/v-deo.html
Very useful comparison in a very smart way yet very compact. Subscribed.
Thank you Vu Music, I appreciate the subscription 🙂
I wonder if that the Detroit slide in the video he's playing.. that thing was crazy when I was a kid.
It most definitely was! Glad you made it through as an adult without permanent injuries if you went on that as a kid lol.
Thanks for showing how the YT videos looks compared to the S22. That was really helpful. More reviews should show real world use like this video. So many YTubers just talk about specs, but real world use is what's important to the buyer.
Thanks NHV303! I'm glad it was helpful. Anything else you want to know, just let me know.
The official case is kind of stupid for Samsung!!
You want a case that protects the whole phone correct?
Well a lot of these phone cases including the Samsung official case DOES NOT PROTECT THE HINGE AND IT EVEN STICKS OUT!!
If you drop your phone and you will you're going to beat the hell out of that hinge and it's going to get ruined..
So get a case from Amazon that has hinge protection.
My favorite is the Spigen S Pen slim pro.. pro means it has the hinge protection.
If you don't want the S Pen they got the same version without the S Pen slot
The S-Pen slot for the pro version is towards the front of the phone on the fold so it makes it a little bit wider.. when the phone is closed it would be the same with with the S Pen let's say as the s22 ultra..
I mean the S Pen is pretty freaking big.. I have no idea why they made it that big.. why couldn't they make the S Pen the size of the 22 ultra so they can make smaller cases..
I mean next year with the Galaxy fold 5 it looks like they're going to have the S Pen built in which is smaller..
I just don't get it...
I get the frustration. Not only is the hinge left unprotected, I made a review about how the top or front cover kept popping off when I applied pressure to fold it. The way the official case housed the S Pen also felt like an afterthought instead of a properly planned design. With the Pen on the back, wireless charging is more cumbersome, same with placing the phone in a phone holder in the car. I really want a wider Fold so they can house a smaller S Pen in the body like with the S22 Ultra. Hopefully the next generation is more polished with the case and S Pen.
I'm watching on my Grey Green Z Fold 4. You're great review very detailed I came from the Fold 3 know come here Fold 5 I'm ready for you I'm ready
Nice. I heard that maybe the Z Fold 5 may have no crease. That will really appeal to people who don't like the crease. Thanks for watching my video Jesus 🙂
I have the 22 Ultra, but take my phone and double it. I want to see a giant Z fold with a front screen like a an Ultra.
Totally agree. When I saw the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold, I wished I had screens as wide as that on the Fold 2.
Had the fold. Awesome phone but not practical for me.
swapped to the S22 ultra
S22 Ultra still an awesome phone for most people I think.
Went from s22 ultra to z fold 4. After about a week decided to return the fold AND KEEP THE S22. Its a great phone but the cover screen is a bit to narrow for me and I don't wanna give up the 10x zoom.
Totally understandable. I've been using the cover screen way more than I expected and yea it's still on the small side compared to foldable phones from other companies. I really hope the Z Fold 5 has a wider screen. I still think the S22 Ultra is the better phone because of that the camera combo and built in S-Pen in the body.
@@DemCrumblies I think if it had the dimensions of the xiaomi folding phone with the s22 ultras cameras it would be nearly perfect
@@inbredhashgas8000 Yea exactly my thoughts. If they can widen the screen, they can choose between including a larger battery too or housing a slim S Pen. Also. the official case for the Z Fold 4 seems like an afterthought. You have to swap out the S Pen holder from the bottom on it so it can lay flat, just silly for a phone at this price.
@@DemCrumblies yeah plus you need to buy it separately even their much less expensive tablets have it included
@@inbredhashgas8000 Yea, and with the S22 you have tons of affordable case options that work nicely. Hopefully the Fold 5 has the full camera layout and a wider screen 🤞
I deliberated so hard over which one to get having been a long term note fan. But I simply love my z fold 4 so much. Its so nice having something that feels different and having two screen size options is just next level.
Hey BestLifeEver, glad you're happy with your Z Fold 4. I think I'm not the biggest power user since I'm on my computer or laptop most of the day, so I haven't always utilized the wide screen that much. However, yea it does come in clutch in those situations where you have to split screen, check your email for a verification code, show someone a photo or video, following along with a tutorial, and framing photos and videos. I just wish they could pack on a telephoto lens like on the S22 Ultra.
@@DemCrumblies I find I use my laptop less now as I can do more stuff on the larger screen.
@@DemCrumblies I wish they could include an s pen
@@honeyholly001 You're the perfect user for the Z Fold 4. I also wish they widen the screen on the Z Fold 5 so they can have a slim built-in S Pen like on the S22 Ultra.
@@DemCrumblies yeah there is no need for a fat s pen. Its way better having one that is built in. Ive bought the case that hold the pen it but it doesnt feel very modern having to keep the pen externally.
O melhor review e comparativo! Parabéns!
¡Gracias Diego! Estoy feliz de que el video haya sido útil. Gracias por ver mi vídeo 🙂
Hello, please write the name of the application that you used to view your desktop computer from the phone and a link to download if you can from Android
Hi there, the name of the App is AweSun: sun.aweray.com/en/ It is also on the Android Store. I also recommend using Chrome Remote Desktop. Both Apps are free to use, but AweSun also has a paid plan. In my video, I am using the free version.
@@DemCrumblies thinks pro
I love my S22 Ultra but I do want to get thw Fold 5 when it releases this summer. I just like the new form factor and I feel like I won't need to upgrade as often with this new tech.
Hey Zion, yea I'm curious to see how the Fold 5 turns out. I heard it's supposed to be much thinner. If they can have it close completely flat without any gaps, that would be a huge enhancement! Thanks for watching 🙂
I have upgraded to Fold 4 from Xiaomi 11T and I can not complain! Fold 4 is excellent phone with great audio and video experience. Forget about productivity and S-pen, it is multimedia king!
Yea it definitely has the multimedia crown if you mostly use it for that. The ability to double your screen in a second can't be beat. Btw, since you're coming from Xiaomi, did you consider the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold? Which factors made you choose the Z Fold 4 over the Mi Mix Fold?
love the big screen when you open, but closed front screen it very small. Difficult to use when driving for like maps
That's very true. You have to buy a specialty phone holder for your car to use it opened for maps while driving because most standard phone holders can't always accommodate the thickness when folded.
What's interesting is people had no issues with maps or whatever else at the front screen size of the fold. Remember we had this size and smaller ever for a long time. The width of the z fold 4 is similar to the iPhone mini. That phone size has been used with no issues for years before phones became phablet sized. It's all a matter of getting use to it.
I will keep my S 22 Ultra till next year.
I have both S22 ultra and the fold z 4 and some time switch back and forth. Everyday the fold is nice but when I'm going out and I know I'm gonna take pictures ill switch to my s22 ultra, the only thing I don't like is how my watch needs to reset just to use it for the other phone. I do find my self going back to my fold 4 alot more due to down time, I love to open the screen and just browse away or watch movies
Yea I also have both phones, but I'm mostly on the Fold 4 because I don't watch to switch some apps like my authenticator app, whatsapp, wechat, etc. But yea, the S22 Ultra is definitely the better phone for photos with the telephoto lens. The large screen on the Fold 4 is great for checking focus and framing or seeing a live view of all your shots, but I really just wish it had the telephoto lens like the S22 Ultra.
@@DemCrumblies honestly I was wondering why they didn't do that with the fold 4 but I'm sure it would be definitely expensive because it would have to try to incorporate that into the phone and have some room so overall change the design
@@TrevinoAndre Yea I'm really hoping the Z Fold 5 will have wider screens like some of the alternate foldables out there now, and hopefully they can fit a 4th camera lens too.
Never going back to a brick phone, will trade up to fold 5 if it's worth it otherwise the 4 is perfect for me
Yea unless the Fold 5 has a larger screen and the ability hold the S Pen in the body, an upgrade from the Fold 4 likely isn't necessary.
What watch are you wearing? I think Withings?
Hey Hector, great eye! Yea, it's the Withings Scanwatch. It's such a beautiful watch that I've barely worn my other watches since getting it. I did a full review on it if you're interested here: ua-cam.com/video/ugMKvrCJ7Ao/v-deo.html
This fold really isn't big enough if you watch videos such as YT or Disney+. The inner screen needs to be at least 8 inches otherwise if you were to watch a wide screen movie such as Doctor Strange the video is actually smaller than on the S22 Ultra which defeats the purpose of having a foldable. It's definitely better for social media such as Instagram or to read the news, just not good for watching videos, I hope Samsung make the Z Fold 5 bigger, maybe a Z Fold 5 Ultra or something for the power user.
This is an excellent point and something that not enough people pointed out (including myself). Due to the screen's aspect ratio, sometimes watching a video without cropping, isn't that much different than watching on the S22 Ultra unless you rotate it to get a bit more pixels. Like you said, the screen is great for social media. Also good for gaming.
Until I held it in my hand, I didn't realize how narrow the phone was when folded. It definitely can go a bit wider to have a wider front cover, larger inner display and increased battery capacity. The Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 actually looks pretty enticing to me too, but I'm not sure how good their software is and how it'd fare in terms of longevity long-term.
exactly as i noticed but questioned earlier. thanks for confirming this. I actually think that this comes down to the deal breaker for me. It blows my mind that the standard 16:9 ratio is smaller on the fold.
This is an excellent and honest video of the Fold 4 that details and demonstrates the use of its many features as well as comparing it with the S22U.
It is the best of the very many that I've watched and the first that I have partly watched again for certain aspects of the phone. Thankfully you have provided the Timestamps!
I'm tempted but still not convinced it's worth parting with my Note 20u. I worry about fragility/durability and ability to use the front keyboard with my fat fingers!
If we had the same generous offers here in Australia as they got in the US I might have jumped! Our pre-order ends 1 Sept, after that I'll have to wait for the S23U haha!
Hey Anton, thank you, I'm glad it was helpful. Yeah it might not be a bad idea to wait until the S23 comes out, then you can decide if it's worth the upgrade to the S23 and hopefully by that time the fold 4 price will drop and they will add more bonuses in Australia to sell them. Then you can decide between the S23 Ultra or Fold 4.
It's my first fold and it feels quite durable and premium when folded, but once open I feel like I have to be more mindful of it so that I don't bang into something since it becomes thin in the hands unfolded. I think I'll get over that feeling with time though.
@@DemCrumblies I just checked price discounting here for the Fold3. On 2 Dec last year Samsung offered $500 off and $700 Trade-in Bonus, this is an increase of $700 over the pre-release offer, just 3 months after release! We'll also know much more about the S23U by then as well. So I think i'll kick the decision can down the road for a few months!
If you're worried about the strength and durability of the Fold4, check out the latest two youtube videos by "Gupta Information Systems in Hindi " where he freezes his Fold4 and immerses in water, then durability tests it, then subjects it to multiple drops closed/open on his concrete roof. Hard to watch the torture but he's paid for it!
Hey Anton, yep waiting sounds like the right decision. Funny you mentioned the torture test video. I haven't watched that one, but I just watched the torture test video from JerryRigEverything and now I'm no longer worried. He tried to bend it in the opposite direction, and it survived nicely.
I currently have a Note 10+. I'm sure my Note is as wide as the s22. I was playing around with a Fold 4 at BestBuy yesterday. It's alittle narrower than the s22. I'm getting tired of a wide phone. And I do like the feel of the Fold 4. So, I am really looking at this as my next flagship. Ah, I'm a one finger typists anyways. I had a iPhone SE.
Hey Jimmy, while the Fold 4 is narrower for sure, the added depth or thickness can become cumbersome depending on how wide or larger your hand or grip is. Just something to keep in mind. Maybe next time you're at BestBuy, try to play with it for 10 to 15 minutes folded and see how your hands feel. I use it folded most of the time and only open it up for video consumption and occasional multi-tasking.
Today I get my Z Fold 4! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
That's wonderful! Which color did you get? Did you decide on a case yet also?
You know of course it's going to weigh more it's literally two phones hinged together two in one basically that probably also explains the $2,000 that z flip that they also have is not doing very well at all I see all these ads and they're always showing that phone and the price just decreases the most recent one I saw was 400 so that one is not doing well but that was expected first time I saw the flip I thought it was the stupidest thing because there's literally no point to the flip being able to fold unless it's just for the sake of folding. The z fold however has a purpose and a reason. You know I actually saw an article talking about the s22 as well saying that this 22 has reached its lowest price. So I'm guessing the z fold is going to create a new standard for smartphones. I've even read articles where lifelong Apple users are now switching but that doesn't surprise me. If you really take a look at regular smartphones they are not really so different from what they were 5 years ago the z fold is the newest thing I'm happy to see it I really thought we were getting to the end where they just wouldn't be able to do much more with smartphones but they surprised me yet again
Hey Pothead Princess 420, yea you're right about traditional smartphone innovations. There isn't much change to form factor each year, it's usually just the camera module layout that differentiates phones. Even more so when you put on a case and all you can see of the design is the camera module. Foldable phones are definitely a welcome change. It was a bit sad to see LG stop making phones because their scrollable / expandable screen seemed pretty innovative going in that direction instead of folding. Yea, the Flip will really only appeal if you want as small a package as possible, but then they actually have real competition in that department from the Motorola RAZR.
@@DemCrumblies you know I don't remember what company it was but they had a foldable phone too and all that one is is quite literally two phones you buy them separately and you put them in a case that holds them together side by side to make it a fold-out screen even though there's like a huge black line right in the middle cuz of the edges of the phone. I'm pretty sure the z-fold is going to end up sitting a new standard I mean it's so versatile. I also heard somewhere that apple is going to stick with the clamshell so I read somewhere apples going to produce a foldable phone but they're going to only produce ones that are like the z flip I'm sure that won't happen but the article was quite interesting. At this point those Samsung has pretty much perfected the foldable phone the crease is barely noticeable I'm not sure how they did it but they did a great job for sure!
@@MollyKuehl4790 Hey yea I know exactly the phone you're talking about because I was seriously considering it, it's the LG V60 ThinQ. I really liked it because both screens were wide. I really like the Z Fold, but I hope they can make the screens a little bit wider next time kinda like how it was on the LG V60 or on the xiaomi mi mix fold 2. Samsung is definitely ahead with Foldables and most companies are playing catchup now, but it will be great to see which improvements we get as more competition enters.
I am a samsung user.but plz samsung stop making us fool.i mean whts the diffrence in s22 ultra and s23 ultra beside camera upgrade🤬😡
Yes, this new version is more of an enhancement vs. an overhaul. Aside from the higher MP camera, slight body change, I think the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is the other major change.
Since owning a zfold4 since launch, I like the phone very much but I think I'm kinda over it, I'm waiting for s23 ultra to be launched. Using the zf4 daily I've noticed that I use the outer screen probably 90% of the time and I'm really missing a more usable phone without having to unfold it...
I feel exactly the same D. Desalvo. I'm thinking about making a follow-up video about my experience with the Z Fold 4, because, like you, I also use the cover screen most of the times, so I'm not using this phone to its full potential. Sure, it comes in handy sometimes to have such a large screen in about one second, but if most of the times I'm using the cover screen, may as well use a phone with a large screen. I also miss having a telephoto lens like on the Ultra.
@@DemCrumblies yes exactly, if you make a video please send me a link , thanks
@D. Desalvo Yep, I will definitely send a link if I make a video. Thanks for watching 🙂
@@New_life61 Hey D. Desalvo, I made a video about my thoughts on the Z Fold 4 after about 5 months. Covered most of the stuff we talked about I think. Link is here if you want to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/Qx-f6OpYxw0/v-deo.html
@@DemCrumblies that's so awesome I'll check it out ASAP, thank you 😁
I love my Ultra, primarily for the camera system. Man if the Fold incorperates the same quality of cameras im all in on Foldables. Maybe for the Fold 5...or 6.
Yea agreed. The S22 Ultra has pretty much any situation covered with the quad lens setup.
Good one dude. You proved that you are unique in what you doing. Appreciate all your efforts!! Kudos - Subbed.
Thank you very much for the compliment and sub Amarnath 🙂 That is really high praise, I truly appreciate it and appreciate you choosing to watch my video!
As much as this phone intruiges me (as someone who used to be vehemently opposed to foldables) I still don't know if it's the right choice for me. I work a manual labor job which is often pretty dusty and dirty which gives me major concerns for the Fold. I'll just hang onto my S22 Ultra for now. I was considering picking one up since I'm probably going to be skipping the iPhone this year due to the ESim which seems like a nightmare for someone who switches between phones often.
Yea if you're doing a lot of manual labor then you're right, it may not be the best phone. I did see the Z Fold 4 torture test on the JerryRigEverything channel and he subjected it to dirt and dust and it seemed to hold up pretty well, but that was a few minutes of testing so we don't know long term impacts say you were using it on the job site every day. I still think the S22 Ultra is an amazing phone because it's a bigger battery, has a telephoto zoom lens, has a built-in S Pen and better IP rating. Good point about eSim, also not all carriers support it yet, but I guess that will change as more and more phones adopt it.
I hate the fold. Texting and typing on this thing is garbage. Just traded mine in for the S22 ultra. Verizon gave me $800 for it so I was like "Finally!"
Lol yea texting on the cover screen can be tricky, but it's OK for me with swiping to text. When it's opened up I have to use swiping on a small floating keyboard to make it easy.
Was really great watching my football games while away yesterday on an huge tablet like screen
Nice! Can't ever beat having a bigger screen.
I have both but I use the Fold 4 more often
Hey KPOP U, with the S23 Ultra coming out soon, do you think you will switch, or are you going to stay on the Fold 4?
@@DemCrumblies I will probably stay with the Fold 4
I own the s22 ultra and the fold 3. I love them both. S22 ultra has the better battery, camera, and Bluetooth built in spen. Fold 3 has spen but not the air gestures. Fold 3 multitasking is on another level though now that we have the one ui 4.1.1 update same as the fold 4 with the bottom taskbar. I'm loving it.
That's great they eventually rolled out the update to the Fold 3 to take care of those customers too. But yea, having the built-in S Pen on the S22 Ultra is such a convenience, plus the additional telephoto camera.
@DemCrumblies they got the case 4 the fold 4 and it hold the s pen in it so its like it's built in lol
@@CONCEITEDBEAUTY100 ikr I have it on my fold 4 currently as the only case I use but other people want it built in for convenience but I prefer the bigger fold pen and the way they have it now with the case because the smaller spen on the s22 ultra hurts my fingers after extended writing.
Yea I bought the official Samsung case, but the S Pen holder was under the case and once you remove the pen, if you don't also remove the pen holder, it rocks like crazy. I've seen other cases where the pen is held on the size, but it adds a lot of bulk. I heard the new Z Fold 5 may have it in body from rumors this year. Let's see.
@@DemCrumblieshundreds of other companies make them, use some common sense and don't buy one from Samsung itself
Watching to my s22 ultra
Yep, still such a great phone with many perks (built in S Pen in the body & additional telephoto lens).
I have a barely one year old phone. I didn't know I wanted a new phone...
Until I saw the Fold4. Samsung just take my money
Lol which barely one year old phone do you have right now?
@@DemCrumblies Samsung Flip 3
Btw I sail for fun. The thing stays in my pants pocket securely. Battery life could be better but not a deal breaker. The Fold though, love that large display
@@kabysummit5801 The Flip line is interesting to me because you can have a full screen phone with half the size, but yea the battery capacity probably won't be enough for me currently. How's the screen held up so far?
The large display is amazing for certain apps, especially gaming, but due to the aspect ratio, there's usually horizontal black bars when viewing 16:9 videos.
@@DemCrumblies Flip 3 still looks and works like new. Fabulous phone imo. For an active person, this form factor is ingenious. The Fold4 is so fire and tempting. A game changer. I will be happy to give away my iPad mini too and have everything on the fold. Also with features like Dex and Chrome cast etc., I may even use the laptop less and watch TV while multitasking on emails, Whatsapp. Lifestyle phone.
@Kaby Summit Great to hear about your screen. Looks like they have gotten the screens to a good place. I saw someone mention that their screen cracked when opening it in cold weather on the Z Fold 3, so I'll be looking to see how the screen on the Fold 4 works out in these cold Canadian Winters. But yea, from what you said, you sound like the ideal user for a Fold 😉
had the fold and need to say you cant tip that easily cause of the small or too big keyboard format
Yea on the screens I mostly use swiping to type to make it easier.
The white s22 ultra is my absolute favorite, how does it compare to the Beige color with the gold sides??
I still prefer the white S22's look vs the Beige color. Both still feel and look like premium devices, but I prefer as close to white as possible.
there is no comparison, they are totally different. This video is not useful... 😒
I'm sorry it isn't helpful to you. However, if you feel that these phones are totally different and cannot be compared, isn't it strange to watch a video related to something you think cannot be compared?
Z fold 4, in comparison the s23 ultra is just top tier garbage.
You're definitely going to make some enemies with that statement lol, but I kinda get you. I made this video after using the Z Fold 4 for a few months and mentioned that I went back to my S23 Ultra: ua-cam.com/video/Qx-f6OpYxw0/v-deo.html
Top video!
I'm glad it was helpful Vladimir. Thank you for watching 🙂
It appears that watching videos on the s22 is actually a larger screen when using the 16:9 ratio. Am I wrong?
Hey Kevin, sorry for the bad quality image, but I took it quick to demo: drive.google.com/file/d/1D11b9Jf8-a5loUvHhhx7V7XNB_pzXw5j/view?usp=share_link
When you open the Z Fold 4 and watch YT, it's slighter smaller in size than the S22 Ultra (Keep in mind that on the S22 Ultra I didn't full screen because it would crop the image to fit, so the image could look even larger on the S22 Ultra)
When you open the Z Fold 4, then rotate it and watch YT in full screen, it's much larger than the S22 Ultra (Again I didn't zoom to fit the screen on the S22 Ultra because it would crop the image)
@@DemCrumblies Thanks Adrian
@@DemCrumblies just looked at your picture, thanks again Dem. I forgot that the ratio is actually longer on the standard phone, so you will still get vertical bars instead of horizontal bars...makes me want to think about the fold again!
S22 ultra
Yea I'm really looking forward to getting the S23 Ultra now after using the Fold 4 for a while.
Im getting this later this month and it is a blessing since I did something stupid and went from galaxy a10e to this LG stylo for 2-3 years and now im excited to get back on galaxy
You will love it. I haven't used any of the previous fold phones, but this one feels very polished.
I wonder how they will improve for the Fold 5?
I've heard rumors that the Z Fold 5 will have no crease and possibly a built-in S Pen in the body. Just rumors though. I really wish they would add a 10X camera personally and the S Pen.
Thank you
Glad the video was helpful 🙂
I went from the S20 ultra to the zfold 4. I love my s20 ultra but I really love zfold 4. I'm very surprised how good the camera is on the zfold. I've always had the traditional slab phones. Was going to wait for the s23 ultra. Loving the SPen features. My last SPen experience was with the galaxy note 3. I find the zfold fits in pockets way better than the S20 ultra. However I do find I use the cover screen alot. Another feature I love it the flex mode! 😄
That's a pretty big jump. Did you get the S Pen Fold Edition, or do you have the S Pen Pro? I just learned that the Fold Edition Pen doesn't connect by Bluetooth, so certain features like triggering the camera remotely doesn't function with the Fold Edition S Pen. Which color did you get btw, and did you put a case on yours?
@@DemCrumblies hey there! Thanks for the reply. Yes I preorded beige which I love! I just got the SPen fold edition with the interchangeable case with the stand. I brought black. The case fits firmly with no problems. 👍
@@samandish I ended up returning my case because my front cover was prone to popping out easily. Great to hear you had haven't had any issues with your case. Enjoy!
@@DemCrumblies yes I did watch your video about that and was surprised you encountered that problem. The desplay screen part of the case doesn't move at all, I did all the tests that you demonstrated, won't budge. Must be a flaw you got. Would be interesting if the flaw exists with certain colours. I did also purchased a cheap clear TPU case and the cover screen component does flop around too much.
@@samandish It's really curious because I'm hearing some people say they had the issue and some say there's no issue. I was going to attempt to swap cases, but the Samsung store rep said that he had a handful of people complain about the same issue and some resorted to only using the back cover and ditching the front cover completely, so I just figured I'd save the time and go back to the clear RingKe case. But yea, the form factor is much more manageable in the hand and pocket so far.
Dear friend does this Fold 4 has an extra SD slot as the Note ultra 20?
Hey Mickey, unfortunately not. The S22 Ultra didn't have it either.
both. I have both
Nice!
I returned my Fold 4 and the main reason is because not all apps are fully optimized yet for the folding phones. Especially on social media apps. They just zoomed in the app rather than optimize the interface of the apps even if you change the aspect ratio in the settings. A lot of contents that you see in the social media apps are also either cut out or just too big and covers the whole app. I also use Nova Launcher in my previous Samsung phone, and unfortunately that is also not optimized. Also the front screen is too narrow for me. Besides these personal issues, it's a beauty of a premium looking folding phone with crystal clear display and super fast operating system. Nine out of ten times you won't notice the crease either, you will see at it and get used to it just like the notch. If they only optimize the user interface of the social media apps, and make the folding phone a little bit shorter and wider this would be a no brainer.
Hey Lashrom, I hear you. The phone looks and feels super premium, but yea some popular needs need better optimization to give submenus or sub layouts to truly make it a fantastic experience. I can use the front screen, but once I put on a protective case, it makes front screen usage a bit more challenging to tap the far edges of the screen. I really hope that the next version has slightly wider screens so that it's even wider unfolded. If they can make the screen wider, maybe they can fit in a slim s pen too later.
Btw, which phone did you go back to? The S22 Ultra, or something else?
@@DemCrumblies Agree with you. And I'm still rocking the S10 haha. Till now it's doing its job. But tempting to buy S22 Ultra right away though. 6 months seems far away to wait for S23 Ultra but time goes fast too.
@@Lashrom Yea you're right to wait until the S23 Ultra comes out. Plus, if you're not a fan of the S23's new look or don't think there are significant upgrades over the S22 Ultra, you can still get the S22 Ultra on sale at that time when they're trying to clear them out.
Bad optimization for Nova is a no go for me, not that I envision myself getting a Fold over an S Ultra (if this becomes the defacto Note series going forward).
I have an s22 ultra 512gb and have watched a ton of comparison videos. Some lean towards the fold 4 some say keep s22 ultra. im so torn lol.
I think I would keep the S22 Ultra and wait next February until the S23 Ultra comes out. Then you can decide if you want to trade your S22 Ultra for the 23 Ultra, and if the S23 Ultra doesn't seem like a big enough upgrade for you, you could consider the Z Fold 4, since hopefully it would be a bit discounted by then too. The S22 Ultra has tons of stuff going for it:
- Built-in S Pen
- Telephoto camera for 10X Optical Zoom
- Slightly Higher Peak Brightness
- Larger battery capacity
@@DemCrumblies yeah but the form factor alone is so unique. That's what has me. It's different and not many people have it.
@@stuffandthangs3953 Yea it is unique. Two things to keep in mind though. If you use your phone for maps or directions while driving, you'll likely want to buy a special phone holder for the Fold since the front screen is a bit small for maps. Second thing is, if you always use your phone in bed before going to bed, if you leave it folded, it can get tiring to hold in your hand with the thickness, and unfolding it in bed doesn't make it an easy one-handed operation for night time winding down. If those points don't matter to you at all, then it'll be a great phone to have. I use the wider screen all the time for UA-cam and multi-tasking between apps.
@@DemCrumblies well I have a head unit with Android auto so that wouldn't matter. I just got this phone in February and the battery life on it is decent. I love the s22 ultra though. Such a tough choice.
@@stuffandthangs3953 Got it, yea then the Fold 4 could be a good option. Even though the stand out feature is the folding screen, most of the day I use the front screen while I'm on the go for texting, quick emails, etc., so the battery life is actually better on this phone than the S22 Ultra only because the battery on this phone is powering a much smaller front screen most of the times, so it can last longer.
The s22 ultra ain't no 8+ Gen 1, it's a regular 8 Gen 1!
Oh boy I thought I had that set to show that the Z Fold 4 had the 8+ and the S22 was the 8. I will blur out that information, add in the caption and update my pinned comment. Thanks for pointing it out Remmi : )
nice work, very much appreciated , thank u
Thank you Zuberz! I really appreciate the sub and Twitter follow 😃
LMFAO 😂
I guarantee you nobody is going to even notice the difference in the chipsets
Honest question what type of watch are you wearing
Hey Kevin, it's the Scanwatch from Withings. I actually made a full review about it here if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/ugMKvrCJ7Ao/v-deo.html
Let's wait for the Fold 5!
Yea, I hope it has a wider screen and the same camera setup as the S23 Ultra will have.
You should do a review on accessibility settings for visually impaired people on the Samsung Galaxy Z fold 4
Hey Allan, thanks for the suggestion. I might do that for the upcoming Galaxy phones. Aside from the usual settings like larger fonts, contrast settings, narration, are there any areas in specific that you'd like to see covered?
Wild question but does anyone think the zfold 4 could last like 5 years or something lol.
Samsung claims a minimum of 200,000 folds for the device life. That works out to around 40,000 folds per year, which works out to 109 folds per day. I doubt most people are opening and closing this thing 109 times per day, so theoretically, it should hold up. However, real world performance is another story.
@@DemCrumblies that's cool! I didn't know that. I'm considering one for sure. Thanks for the reply
@Horizon Plays you're welcome. I'd see what others say too, but after using it for 5 months, I have no issues with the screen so far. I actually made a video about my experience with the z fold 4 after 5 months. Maybe watch that to see if my points make sense to you before you consider it. I'm actually looking forward to the S23 Ultra now.
Pusiste el mismo procesador que tenían y no es correcto
Gracias por notar que Jesús B, borraré esa parte y agregaré una nota en los subtítulos. Aprecio tu ayuda.
@@DemCrumblies 9c
@@bgch76 hey bgch76, what do you mean by 9c?
Which focuses faster and better 🤔🤔🤔
I can't really tell a difference in focusing speed, they are both very quick. I still give the edge to the S22 Ultra though because it has a 108 MP sensor compared to the Z Fold 4's 50 MP sensor. Also, the S22 Ultra has a 10X optical lens, and the Z Fold 4 tops out at 3X optical. The S22 Ultra is just better all around for most shooting scenarios.
Arash is a hacker 🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏
Lol yea, that was a really helpful tip. I don't know why Samsung doesn't put that feature in the settings. Many people want to watch the front cover to save battery life and keep it at 90 degrees.
@@DemCrumblies thank you for mentioning that tip in your video 🙏😊
@@arashmojtahedi6815 Thanks again for sharing Arash!
Hey thanks for the comparison! Can you tell me if the the beige Z fold 4 has any pinkish hues to it and if the gold trim has any rose gold hues or if it's champagne gold? Cannot have a chance to see it in person unfortunately. I saw in person the official sand cover for it and it's definitely pinkish. Still deciding in between beige and gray green which one to pick...tough choice!
The beige color is definitely more on the champagne side. Here are some photos I took in natural light: drive.google.com/file/d/1a6DWURr3vyzky4vKZCMQ4YC5NV-pSLCl/view?usp=share_link and drive.google.com/file/d/1aD6pQvXGQFO8LDoL0s-tQac7_gnnyV31/view?usp=share_link It's more on the champagne side I think.
@@DemCrumblies awesome thanks! That's the hue I was hoping for. I was worried it was more rose gold. I was on the fence in between beige and gray green but will get the beige now. I think it looks cool and classy. Many thanks!
@@MarcoMarfia I hope I captured the color correctly for you. It looks a bit different in different lighting conditions (indoors, outside, warm lights, cool lights etc.). I hope you get a good deal on it with discounts and possible trade-ins. Btw, not sure where you're from, but I was able to get Airmiles rewards when I purchased mine. Hopefully Samsung has some partnership deals where you're at too. Good luck!
It gets brighter in direct sunlight of you had adaptive brightness on
Yep true. I usually adjust it manually and enable extra brightness in the menu when I know I'll need it for sure.
I upgraded to the fold 4 from the s22 ultra and I’m not disappointed…but I do miss the 10x optical and the macro pics the 22ultra can take…and about the battery life ..I take pics watch UA-cam have the brightness up all the time and I get better battery life on this phone than I did on my 22ultra but it does depend on how u use your phone ..I’ve had the fold 4 since august 22 and it’s probably the best phone I’ve had when it comes the an all around do everything u need phone..plus it’s just different from every other phone…but I guess it’s all subjective…great video and great work.
@@kevinoverton7846 Thanks Kevin! One thing I didn't connect while I made this video is that I still use the cover screen for most of the time since I can easily text, email and read the news on the cover screen. I only open the phone up for full screen for certain things like UA-cam videos or certain apps, but even then I might watch some UA-cam videos on the cover screen if I'm mostly just using it for background noise or music and I don't need to see the video. So depending on how you often you use the full unfolded screen and how often you use the cover screen, it's definitely possible to have better battery life on the Z Fold 4 than the S22 Ultra, since the S22 Ultra's battery MUST always power that large display, whereas with the Fold 4, it's powering both a large screen and a much smaller screen than the S22 Ultra (in my case, it powers the smaller screen most of the time).
@@DemCrumblies I too use the cover screen more for texting emails maps exe..didn’t think I would but the cover screen works very well..especially for one handed use…I can say u really can’t go wrong with either one lol
@@kevinoverton7846 Yep, I was surprised at how often I found myself using it. It's great to have the versatility to use either screen any time you want.
I like the sturdiness of the ultra and the camera and battery life exceed the fold. The ultra will last many years with technology advances. The fold will eventually split and crack in the middle where it folds. While my ultra won't even have a scratch. Built in s-pen is also amazing. Ultra is the best phone on the market by far.
The S22 Ultra does have a lot of benefits going for it like the telephoto lens and built in S Pen for sure. I know previous fold versions had the crease issue, but I'm not sure how the Z Fold 4 will fare. I guess also if you trade your phone every year for the next model, you will not reach the folding life of the phone.
@@DemCrumblies yeah that is true. But expensive just to have a folding phone you can absolutely never drop.
@@jasjas8232 Not sure if you've seen this video before, but it's pretty interesting how much damage it can handle: ua-cam.com/video/RteJVUwzhWs/v-deo.html&vl=en
No brainer z fold 4 is my choice
Seems to be the voice of the majority. Some people mentioned never wanting to go back to a slab phone after a foldable.
Fold is a good phone next year it will be more of a beast
Yea I hope next year's version has a telephoto lens maybe and slightly larger battery too.
@@DemCrumblies battery not bad because it hold up better than the s22 ultra. But will see..they won't change everything..because they got the spen to think how to get inside. The camera. The outside display making it bit larger. Maybe getting the phone thinner so so many things. For me if they just upgrade the cam and have the outside display a but wider I'm ok.
@@rayonwilliamssportsandfun2106 Yea I agree with you, if they could add a telephoto and make the cover screen slightly wider, that would be so much better. If they can make the screens wider, then they could fit the S Pen inside maybe too.
@@DemCrumblies yes they will eventually I hope they do next year.
12:55 you can use the inner display
Yea you can use it flat for sure, but if you wanted to have it kind of angled and without the crease, then you have to use a work-around to get it at various angles.
What battery performance setting you are having Standard or Light?
I have it set to Standard and Adaptive Battery is on also.
Am go buy ultra 22
You will love the S22 Ultra. It's a better all rounder for most people I think.
After having the fold for a few months I miss my S22 Ultra. While it is a technical marvel, The folding becomes silly after a while.
I feel that. The Fold is wonderful, premium and so unique being able to double the screen like that. But I'm looking forward to the S23 and going back to that form factor with a built in S Pen in the body and the telephoto lens. I don't use the Z Fold (unfolded) as much as I thought I would. There's definitely times it comes in handy when split screening certain apps for productivity or for remoting into a computer, but those events are so infrequent that I'm not making the most out of this phone.
@@DemCrumblies yea really couldn’t have said it better. The flip seems more functional because you have to unfold it to use it but I don’t want to go down in specs to try it.
@@Caesar__99 Yea and if you have to open the Flip to use it, might as well just stick with the S22 Ultra fully spec'd out unless you care a lot about size and weight.
That crease would constantly get on my nerves.
I kinda thought the same before I got it because I like designs to be seamless, but it gets less noticeable after a while. You really see it in dark backgrounds. I heard the Z Fold 5 is supposed to have no crease, but only time will tell if that's true.
@Dem Crumblies Tech Now that would be something!
@@EazySDJ Yep, it would take it one step closer to having almost no compromises.
The specs you put on the screen had something blurring out the specs on the screen for the s22
Hey Steven, yep you're right. When I did the specs, I copied and pasted them, but forgot to update the CPU spec for the S22 Ultra and another spec, so I blurred it out to prevent confusion. Sorry about that, but you can check this site for a quick specs comparison: www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S22-Ultra,Samsung-Galaxy-Z-Fold-4/phones/11761,11909
Fold 4 i love IT
There's much to love. I'm hoping they can make the screen slightly wider though in a future model to make the front screen an even better experience.
Wish it was a bit thinner.
Yea. I wish the screen was a bit wider too.
Did you get a 1 or 2 year Samsung Care+ Plan? Here in the Philippines, the pre-order promo includes a free 1 year Samsung Care+ but you can extend it to a 2 year plan for $200 which is 50% off included in the promo, originally a 2 year SC+ is $400. Do you think it's worth it to upgrade to a 2 year SC+ for $200, I'm planning to trade-in my S22(regular). Thanks!
Hey Paolo, mine came with the 1 year plan I believe, but I didn't upgrade it to two years because I will likely trade it in for the Z Fold 5 next year to review, and I wasn't sure if the warranty would transfer over.
If you plan on keeping your phone for 2 years at least, I think it would be worth the upgrade, especially if it is your first foldable phone just in case anything goes wrong like you drop it, flex the screen too much, etc.
@@DemCrumblies in USA?
@@rayonwilliamssportsandfun2106 Hey Rayon, I'm in Canada.
@@DemCrumblies ok
can you tell me where you got the thumbnail wallpaper for the fold?
Hey SolidBoss7, that wallpaper is actually the wallpaper that comes with the Fold, but I have curtains in that room that reflected off the screen that made it look that way.
@@DemCrumblies ahhhh okay thanks for the clarification sir. Great video btw!
Thanks for watching my vid SolidBoss!
Content creation?
How is it with zoom in tab mode?
Hi Shar Marie, the zoom works well in tab mode. Overall, it's just great for taking photos and videos in tab mode because you can see what's in focus and frame better. I haven't really used this phone for content creation since I have a dedicated camera. This phone may be trickier to use for static shots like overhead or on an tripod since it's thicker and most phone holders cannot accommodate the size (especially if you put a case on it). If you unfold it to make it thinner, you run into a problem again where most phone holders cannot accommodate a phone this wide. If you want to use it on the go with a gimbal, you might run into similar issues. A traditional form factor phone may be easier for content creation since most accessories are designed for non-folding phones.
Was seriously considering purchasing the fold 4 but had reservations. I had an uber trip where the driver was displaying his map on the fold...thought...done! I gotta get me wanna dem. Started researching and came upon this video.
For me: Fold: 1. Cool factor? fold is 2nd to none. 2. Multi screen: huge bonus. 3. Swipe mode for texting with one finger is probably much easier on the front screen due to a smaller width (thumb can reach full keyboard easily.) 4. Gaming looks more fun. 5. Sound probably is best of any phone. 6. Camera: Having subjects watch their framing is yoooooj!
S22: 1. in 16:9 ratio, actually a bigger screen! 2. Camera options with zoom much better (question is if it's 3x optical and then digitally augmented, is it really better? seems so) 3. Fits in pocket better. 4. no huge transition issues from Note 10. 5. pen is integrated.
Answer after reading reviews etc I'm not impressed with either enough to purchase one from the note 10. I wanted to give my son my ten for Christmas so that he can upgrade his note 8, but honestly, when I saw the standard 16:9 video was actually smaller on the fold it broke my heart. I was really leaning towards it. Well, maybe not actually broke my heart...just a slight electrical shock. I'll probably go play at best buy and see if I can pull the trigger, but I thought Elon was bringing out the Pi phone soon and was waiting for that. Apparently T-mobile is working with starlink to connect. Elon has been a bit busy lately with twitter, so Pi is probably farther on the horizon.
I'll update my thoughts and actions if anyone is interested.
Hey Kevin, yea best thing is to try it out in person to know for sure. I definitely feel like the Fold 4 should have had a slightly wider screen like some of the phones coming out from Xiaomi and Honor. I think the S22 Ultra still has lots going for it (telephoto camera, built in S-Pen in the body, on sale now too). I don't think anyone should rush to get the Z Fold 4 unless you really think you will unfold the screen often to utilise it. I'm actually surprised that I use the cover screen most of the time. Yea the huge screen does in handy for certain situations, but not enough for me to say it's worth it. I'm probably not the power user that would typically buy a Fold phone though.
@@DemCrumblies never knew about the other two. 🤔
Yea you can search for the honor magic Vs, which looks pretty good. Not sure about reliability and longevity compared to Samsung though.
I think you are confusing the 16:9, by no means does the fold have the smaller screen in 16:9 content, in fact, if you put 16:9 on the 22U and zoom in, in addition to losing the content, the screen is still fine smaller, I can say that because one of my interests in the fold is the consumption of content, mainly animes that are 16:9, I put the 22U and the fold 4 side by side running darling in the franxx both without the zoom, and man, the the fold's screen is considerably larger than the 22U's.
@@hyllen Hey Hyllen, I maybe didn't specify or show clearly in the video, but I just measured the same video on both phones and the S22 Ultra has a slightly larger video size when measured diagonally even without zooming in to fill the vertical black bars on the side (about 15 CM for the S22 Ultra vs 14 CM for the Z Fold 4). However when the same video is put full screen on the Z Fold 4 and when the phone is opened up and rotated, the Z Fold 4 is indeed quite larger at around 17 CM diagonally. Hope that makes sense.
Great re view I'm team s22 ultra. But I do also own the flip 4 so there's that
Team S22 Ultra is a great team to be on, and when the S23 Ultra comes out, I'll be eyeing it for the better camera selection and built in S-Pen.
Is the Flip 4 your first foldable phone btw?
Fake video
It's amazing what AI can do now right? I used it to create this entire channel, going back 7 years before this AI tech even existed.
@@DemCrumblies yrsh imagine saying the s22 ultra has a way battery when the fold 4 has a much more efficient chipset
@@DemCrumblies fake video didnt have both phones as main device
@@DemCrumblies making things up with fake phones
@@juanjoserinconrodriguez7493 Even though the Z Fold 4 has a more efficient chipset, if the user mostly uses the larger inner display, the battery will deplete faster regardless of how efficient the chipset is when compared to a phone with a smaller screen.
I love my fold 4. First 2000+ phone
Enjoy it Ahklys! Which color did you get, and did you put a case on yours?
@@DemCrumblies just Grey lol, I think. I dunno what the case is called... it's the Samsung one with the pen, kinda turquoise.
@@DemCrumblies thanks for video
@@ahklys1321 Oh yea I know which color you mean. Btw, which phone did you upgrade from?
@@DemCrumblies a Huawei P30 pro. Really good phone for a thousand bucks. This one has the wow factor though.
I cracked the screen on the p30 though and it was too expensive to replace.
What about the bubble problem in fold 4 screen?any experience? Or is it limited to fold 2and3?
Hi Dr. Ashraf, I have not experienced the bubble issue on the Z Fold 4 yet. Time will tell how it holds up long-term and in cold Canadian Winters too.