Ignore my comment on your other video.. I mentioned I like the ride of the peg 35 but they were a little uncomfortable for me, and you answered that exact question here...try the Vomero next! I love your videos, always my go-to for anything running related... you always seem to have a video about everything! Keep up the outstanding work
These are my favorite shoes if you're looking for something specifically for the function. Styling id say 7/10 but function, 10/10. Super comfortable, easy on the joints. 👍
Just picked these up the other day. I normally experience a variety of pain while running (shins, Achilles, knees) and I ran 8 miles in these pain free. Great so far!
Great review, thanks! Your comment regarding the cruise control on the highway was spot on. I love this shoe for my steady long runs. I need the extra stability these provide compared to Peg Turbo and Epic React.
It depends on what else I have in my closet in this hypothetical. Assuming I have zero other shoes in my closet, I'd pick Beacon. It has more versatility
Beacon hands down. Versatile, bouncy ride. Light. Got Vomero for long runs but prefer Beacon even then. Beacon doesn't win Turbo though but Turbo doesn't have traction on packed snow.
I'm a bit late to this comment but I love the vomero and have done many fast runs in it already. I believe the durability of the Vomero is better than the beacon due to a thicker upper and more rubber on the outsole, so for me at least I'd pick the vomero.
Awesome shoe! I have done a whisker over 600 miles in these shoes in the two years i have had them! Have run 10k X 3, Half Marathon X 4 to VLM Marathon & much training!
Give me Achilles tendinitis. Aweful shoe. Looks awesome but you are spot on about the pads on the heel. They rub my ankle right at the Achilles insertion point. Been 6 months of pain from 6 weeks of running in these.
Hi. I’ve been using lunarglides since 2010, now they are being phased out and it has been hard looking for an alternative. I’m considering vomero 14, i have a high arch and my gait supinates. Would you recommend this pair or should i look elsewhere? I run 3-4 times a week for 5-6kms. Thanks in advance
Are you running in the Chicago Half Marathon? I am trying to go from 9.50 minute mile to a 8 minute mile in the Chicago half marathon. Maybe we can run together.
Hi, I'm looking to buy an everyday training shoe and this model is offered in a really good price from a local seller. It's Nov 2021. Would it be a good buy? Would there be an effect on the foam?
Sir, i just got vomero 14 today and just realized that there are no patent numbers on the swoosh logo and the tounge is a lil bit different.. mine is have more padding on the tounge.. i already check the nike website and there no patent number on swoosh logo (black colour).. Do you realized?
Thanks for this. Was curious to hear your thoughts. I had such high expectations for Vomero after Epic but they are not fully met. Although better than previous, it's still a heavy and tiring shoe. Notice myself gravitating towards Beacon even for long runs when it's snowy. Considering NB 1080 v9 as alternative to Vomero. Tried them in store and they felt livelier and softer.
I really wanted to love them and they are not bad at all in easy steady pace. I just expected Epic with a rubber outsole. Basically Epic for winter. Realize now that was a bit unrealistic.
My first pair I had to send back because the right shoe had an issue where the Zoom Air was either deflated or not functioning correctly (felt like a brick!). Got a 2nd pair and they feel really solid, like alternating them with the Turbos. I thought I wouldn't like this shoe because the forefoot cushion looks so thin, but I've used mine up to 14 mile runs without any discomfort in the forefoot. The combination of Zoom and even that thin amount of React seems to be ok for me as a midfoot striker. Great trainer, especially at its pricepoint!
Sir can you tell me pls that Pegasus 36 or vomero 14 which one is better for rough use I'm confused totally can you help me to solve this out! And suppose if you buy one of this shoes then what will you choose?
Hello, Kofuzi, I bought the Vomero 14 today and ran in it for a very short distance. I have a slight injury on my right heel after I had run on a mud trail a few months back and this shoe, since it has extra padding on the heel of the shoe, I felt some discomfort by the pressing of the heel cushion on the injured area. In that way, I found the shoes a little uncomfortable. I tried on Asics GT 2000 v8 a few days back at the shop. It felt comfortable. Should I get that since it does not have such heel padding?
I really like the Pegasus 36 for shorter faster workouts on a track and some tempos. I also have the flyknit zoom fly and like those for longer workouts and maybe some longer races. I have had previously just had an epic react but I’m look for a new daily trainer and am looking at Nike shoes and was wondering what shoe I should pick? I tend to pronate and still run in neutral shoes I do have insert and tend to like a more snappy responsive ride with some ground feel.
does the vomero feel stiff in the cold? i personally don’t wear the peg 35 outdoors in the cold because of how stiff the cushioning can feel in the cold (zoom bag feels stiffer, and i think cushlon is EVA which stiffens up in the cold). i’m pretty sure react isn’t EVA, but maybe the zoom bag feels stiffer in the cold? just wanted to hear your experience in the shoe
I don't think it's stiff in the cold, but then again, I also don't think cushlon feels stiff in the cold. I may be the wrong person to ask this particular question
Hi Kofuzi, do you have the vomero 14, peg turbo 2 and zoom fly 3 in same size, and do they fit different in same size? Thanks...great videos, great shoe reviews...very helpful..
yes yes think of them like jeans. cargo jeans, boot cut jeans, and slim fit jeans all fit different. but they have different cuts commensurate with their purpose.
When wearing the Vomero 14 it looks like I have an anchor on my feet. It gives me a very weird running sensation, somehow changes my running dynamics, it's fatiguing even in easy runs. The react midsole provides a better running experience, light, responsive but still offering enough cushioning (up to 10 mile runs).
@@kofuzi unfortunately this shoe does not work for me. It feels really heavy and fatiguing. I strike with midfoot not with the heel. The odyssey react feels very comfortable if you forgive the narrower toebox. I guess I'll be using the Vomero 14 in a workout to endure against carrying something heavy on my feet. 😂
@@pmapires I have the same feeling after having ran on them for around 50km (only long runs, around 12-14km). I'm in the market now for something with "less shoe" on it. And it's strange, but I dare saying it makes my knee ache. Previously I've been running in an old mizuno and it was ok. Since the first time I run in the vomero 14 I felt a little of knee pain, which now is a lot of knee pain and I have an appointment at the doctor today to check it
Hi there, enjoying your videos. How does this compare to the Asics Nimbus 20? The Nimbus 21 isn't really the same as the 20 so I'm looking for something that could replace it.
Hi Michael, I had the chance to buy another pair of shoes and now I’m been thinking of which shoes of durable, long distances while being able to run with pace. Vomero14, Zoom fly flyknit and Zoom fly. I heard Zoom fly flyknit is very fast and responsive but I’m afraid of the durability.
kofuzi I had a friend who runs 100km, the sole of the shoe was visible dreadful compare to Pegasus 35 where it seems to hold up to 300km and not much visible.
Kofuzi, could you feel the zoom units under your feet in the forefoot area? I just received my pair and I’m not sure if it’s going to be an issue or not. Didn’t have this while trying Pegasus 35.
@@kofuzi thank you very much for your answers :) That's reassuring. Funny though that I didn't feel the zoom units at all in Pegs. Maybe that's because zoom/react difference?
i think they'd be great, as the outsole is a bit nubby. but keep in mind that the ankles are very low cut, so there isn't a lot of lateral support there
kofuzi gotcha. I own a pair of nikes wildhorse and I just needed something to alternate it with. Not too worried about stability . In fact I was worried the vomero would be too protective. Thanks for your reviews!
Great review. It would be helpful if a reviewer did a comprehensive examination of various needs (distance vs speed in sectors or a Venn diagram) and laid out what shoes cover what territory.
I think the Turbo fit in for shorter faster work. While I've run in them for 20 mile runs and some people have run marathons in them, I raced a road 5k in them and thought they were quite excellent in that use case
@@kofuzi thanks :) i tried the vomero 14 on and they felt good but i already have brooks ghost and peg 34 i alter between. I also tried the turbos on and they felt bouncy and responsive and im looking forward to getting them :) cheers again kofuzi
I will run my first 21k on 22 of September. I did once 5k in 24 minutes. Any advice how to train for 21k? Just endurance runs 10k daily? Or what? Advices accepted by anyone.
@@aelfwif4309 thanks for your input. Im 100 % on an amazing diet and eating plan cause im mainly a gym bro. I kinda regret giving 95 euros for the pegasus 35 cause i feel like i cant appreciate the full potential of the shoes and its so delicate thats only for running and or walking on asphalt. Vomero 14 and Peg 36 from the reviews i have watched, comes to the conclusion that none is better than but if those your 2 choices i would try them both and get a real feel which one hugs your foot better while tied for running. And or are both again the same feel then go with the one that is prettier to your eyes. I really love the vomero 14 color: Burgundy Ash/Gunsmoke, but i couldn't find them at my size so i just went with the Peg cause of the colored sole. Greetings from Athens Greece🇬🇷 @sempastian #sempastian
i think not all React from Nike is created (or formulated equal). the React here is a bit softer, imo. The Epic React is a bit springier and you don't notice the soft until you're running. With the Vomero, I notice the software of React when just walking around. Same with the Zoom Fly Flyknit
if you are only going to have one running shoe, then the Pegasus 35 as it is the most versatile. if you already have a daily trainer you like, then the Turbo is a great next shoe to add to your arsenal
@@kofuzi Thanks for your reply. I also wrote you on IG;) I do have a couple of other normal running shoes. Which of these ones would you recommend also for running on gravel? I enjoy that more than tarmac. Would the Zoom Fly Flyknit also be an option? I tried these on but the upper had very minimal support for a non experienced runner!
i've done a fair amount of running on relatively large stone gravel roads in the pegasus 35 and some in the turbo. i'd pick the pegasus for gravel as the Turbo might give you too much road feel if you encounter sharp or large rocks within that gravel.
I haven't run in them, in the summer, but I anticipate that they will be average in terms of hot weather performance. I think the Epic React would be a good alternative if heat is a major concern.
@@phamthaison9629 what i meant is that, whether i would pick the epic react versus the adios 4 is whether i'm looking for something that is more cushioned or something that is more of a racing flat feel.
@kofuzi I have quite a few shoes that I rotate these days, Turbo, Rincon, Adios 3+4, Ride 7, Kiga 5. I really wanna give the Vomero 14 a try seeing that they are heavily discounted by now but cannot really see where they would fit. For easy days I rotate Turbos, Rincon, and Ride 7. Longer speed work is done in Rincon (Turbo's forefoot is too plush for speed imo), and interval stuff I use the Adios for. I read lots about the Vomero 14's firm forefoot that works against slow and easy pace, which is a bit off-putting.
@@kofuzi I'm currently running in peg 34. After around 3 miles of running I can feel the pain in the midfoot area. Maybe my feet is too wide for peg :(
Yeah man those things just kinda cushion and don’t cup the back of the foot for me. But it could be my foot is skinny back there hahah. The ghosts have a nice pillow too but the difference is the heal cup really fits my foot and hugs it firmly.
Yea its been brutally cold here in New York. Been like in the single digits going into below zero with the wind chill. Haven't been able to run outside.
The Epic Reacts still work better for me as a daily shoe. The Vomero is a bit heavy and clunky for my taste. It is kinda functioning as my winter snow/mixed surfaces shoe though. I feel like the heel is very heavy and built up and the forefoot is somewhat thin. This is definitely a heel strike shoe. I am surprised by how tired I feel in this shoe in comparison to the Epic React though, where the miles feel pretty smooth and effortless. I feel like the Vomero is fighting me a bit at my normal and long run paces of like 7:20. If only the Epic React was better in the winter...
have you tried the odyssey react shield? i haven't had a chance to get to it, but if you prefer the Epic React while using the Vomero for winter running, I'm wondering if that might be the right mix for you.
@@kofuzi I had tried the normal Odyssey React, but the shoe doesn't have quite the same shape as the Epic, oddly enough. The forefoot is very narrow, and the upper was very uncomfortably plasticy and not adaptable up front. If it had the wider forefoot of the Epic, and a more adaptable upper in the toebox, I would be all in.
Sounds like we had similar reactions to this shoe. Thought this would a sturdier epic React, which I love, but it feels so clunky and tiring to me. Long happy history running in Nikes, but this one is a no go for me.
i don't spend a ton of time on the track, usually in the spring and early summer. if you've got a good track surface, almost any shoe will be great - the track takes care of the cushioning and responsiveness. i'd look for something light. what distances are you running for your intervals? what do you race in? what do you currently have?
@@kofuzi usually 400m x 10 for my intervals. I race in Zoom Fly Flyknit these days and I also have Pegasus 35 and Pegasus 35 Turbo in my current rotation. I usually run my intervals in Pegasus 35 and feel pretty good about it. Wondering if you would have some better option? :)
So for Marathon distance 18+ mi would you reach for that shoe? vapor fly 4%? im not fast by any means but i am contemplating a long distance shoe at the moment
kofuzi yeah I know it would be a stretch, just thought I would ask. Still debating on a race day shoe but I need to decided quick since I’m about a month out of my race. Right now I’d be running In my peg Turbo or Zoom Fly. That’s if I don’t go with the 4%
j'ai les 3 zoom fly flyfnit, pegasus 35 et depuis peu la vomero 14 en noir comme sur la video . mon avis , c'est une trés bonnes chaussures pour l'entrainement toutes distances confondues par contre pour la vitesse la zoom fly flyknit est vraiment au dessus. l'amortie de la vomero 14 est un régal comparé a la pegasus 35 . si je devait choisir entre vomero 14 et pegasus 35 je pense m' orienté vers la vomero 14 . j'ai pesé ses deux chaussures est à ma grande surprise il n'y avait que 4 gr d'écart !
i'm not sure what you mean by training. like cross training or for use in the gym? i'm sure you could use it that way, although i think lateral ankle support is a bit lacking in this shoe (not a problem for "pure running")
Awesome review. I've been looking for my next replacement shoe. I'm currently in the ghost 11 and really enjoy them. Between the ghost and vomero, which do you find better for the half to full marathon distance?
My only experience with the Ghost is with the Ghost 11 GTX, and I'm not that excited about it. If the Ghost 11 is anything like the 11 GTX, I'd pick the Vomero
I am scratching my head trying to see the "value" of this shoes vs the Peg 35 as a daily trainer. It is heavier and more pricey. What exactly V14 can do that P35 can't?
I think it handles longer distances better. While they are both 10mm drop shoes, the angle of attack on these shoes is different. If your only two metrics are price and oz, I can see why you are struggling to see the distinction. I've discussed t more thoroughly previously in a video entitled Vomero vs Pegasus. ua-cam.com/video/efXgC_pBsDQ/v-deo.html
I've had and worn out 4 pairs of Vomeros before (11*2, 12 & 13) and loved them for recovery runs and slow long runs, so I wanted to love the 14s, even more so as most reviewers were thrilled about them. But as gorgeous as they are (probably the prettiest pair of sneakers I've ever purchased), I found them horrible to run in. The midsole is too thin at the forefront for a midfoot striker like me, the rubber is too hard and outright incomfortable, and the upper is just dreadful : the tongue is too short and presses heavily against the front of top of the foot, and the side is cut so low against the ankle that it makes the whole shoe very unstable. After 500 meters, I knew I had made a mistake, but at first I thought it couldn't be that bad, and that with a little breaking-in (that most Vomeros require), it would be better. It didn't. I managed to sprain an ankle after barely 20kms in them :-( Horrible horrible shoes... I replaced them with Pegasus Turbo 1 and it's night and day: the Peg Turbo are super comfy, light and cushioned at the same time. I'm loving those shoes! They will definitely be my trainers for the next Chicago marathon.
Hi you all from Greece. Having watched every major review of this shoe, I decided to give it a go. So far, after 49 km in them, I'm disappointed. Coming from the Kinvara 9 (and 6 before them), I'm having some major issues. Firstly, the air pocket. It's sth that you definately feel, as if it pushes the ball of your foot upwards. And that causes the so called hot feet, every single time I run. After km No.6 it's there to bug you. Again and again (and again..). No matter how I land my foot, it gets worse, taking all the fun out of my runs. And then it's the lacing. For those who'll buy it, try not to tighten them. My right upper foot still hurts, but being fair after I spent some 10 mins to readjust the lacing, I think I've got it. Oh, the tongue is short and not that cushy. I can't use the 7th holes for the laces, because then I get another ache at the contact point with my feet. But at the end of the day, why do I have to get this annoying hot foot feeling? Yesterday I did a 15km run, to see if it is a matter of breaking in of the shoe. But it isn't. And if it is, why should it be there, when both my Kinvaras where a case of wear-and-forget shoe? Honestly, I waited so much to get the Vomeros, and I'm seriously thinking of keeping them only as a sneaker pair, spending extra and unplanned euros for a decent pair to do my runs. FYI, I'm 1,79cm (think that's 5 ft 11,5 in or so), 75kg (around 160 pounds?), with a quite narrow foot, so I dont think my biomechanics get in the way - at least they didn't with any other shoe I had (surely far less that Kofuzi tries). What I wanna say is, try to feel the shoe when you try it on, and see how it fits to your shoe. Hope you won't get my issues. Only good thing I must say, is that they are fast compared to the characterless Kinvaras (didn't feel that until I saw my watch).
the kinvara is a very different shoe. i think saucony likes to sneak in some stability in even their neutral shoes. i generally find that people that love the kinvara tend to have love/hate relationships with nike shoes. certain ones they love. and certain ones they just can't stand,
@@kofuzi Hi, appreciate your fast reply. Well I'm not in love with the Kinvara, I found it to be nothing special and the everun gave me some issues (think it would be better off without it), but it surely is more comfy. You think I should persist with the vomero until I get used to it, or am I risking some chronic injury? Because I really like the way they look and I like wearing them...
I also get the sensation of hot feet from Vomero 14. I’m a Nike guy but having difficulty with this pair. Also, agree on not to lace up too tight. I tend to lace tight on all my shoes but with Vomero, I really have to be careful . Feel that it facilitates the burning sensation on the bottom of my feet. I do like the way it fits on my feet and how light it feels vs. prior versions. But i miss the forefoot cushion of vomero 12 on the vomero 14. Hope that I will warm up to the shoes after more miles. I was really looking forward to this pair for long runs and on road for cushion. But the new version feels more like pegasus than prior version vomeros as for plushness and cushion.
@@patrickmaher4944 You're so right about the lack of forefoot cushion, I feel the same, even though I haven't tried the 12s to compare. Sb below (I think) wrote that this is more of a heel-landing shoe (due to the much plusher feel back). Well, I tried it on my yesterday's run and I can tell you that it worked, the burn was almost gone (barely noticeable), perhaps you should try it for yourself and see. I think that time is needed with this shoe to get used to it and let it work for you, rather than against you. Will try to ramp up the miles gradually to give my feet the time they need to adopt. Hope it works, as I also want to love those shoes...
@@vassilistriantafillidis2352 i didn't feel any hotspots with this shoe, although i definitely did with the Epic React, which has similar midsole foam (just no zoom air pocket).
It‘s kind of infuriating that Nike keeps getting wrong either the toe box fit, lacing, tongue, heel cup or any combination of those. Sheesh, these shoes are incredibly narrow (I do not have wide feet and slide in many other shoes) and have heel slip despite those little pillows. The tongue is questionable as well and the laces have to spread out more than on any other Nike I‘ve had. All in all incredibly flawed, stay away people I have massive buyers remorse!
Sorry to hear that. Pretty much all Nike shoes released in 2018 were too snug. I believe they fixed it with the 2019 releases, but unless I’m mistaken, there isn’t a Vomero 15
Ignore my comment on your other video.. I mentioned I like the ride of the peg 35 but they were a little uncomfortable for me, and you answered that exact question here...try the Vomero next! I love your videos, always my go-to for anything running related... you always seem to have a video about everything! Keep up the outstanding work
Thanks so much for watching!
When you try to make a video about running almost daily, you end up covering a lot of subjects.
Had my vomeros for 500+ miles and they are still good😊
You sold me on my new half marathon shoe. Thank you, sir...
Thank you so so much for the donation and shout out. I really appreciate it! ❤️
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Thanks for the review. Now I'm having this shoes and I LOVE IT..!! 👍😁💪
These are my favorite shoes if you're looking for something specifically for the function. Styling id say 7/10 but function, 10/10. Super comfortable, easy on the joints. 👍
Just picked these up the other day. I normally experience a variety of pain while running (shins, Achilles, knees) and I ran 8 miles in these pain free. Great so far!
that's wonderful to hear! sounds like you've found the right shoe for your running style
How would the Vomero compare to the infinity Reacts? Great vid!
Great review, thanks! Your comment regarding the cruise control on the highway was spot on. I love this shoe for my steady long runs. I need the extra stability these provide compared to Peg Turbo and Epic React.
i'm looking forward to exploring new cities in this shoe
Wish I was as light on my undersides as you!!My favourite shoes.
I think this shoe is a probably one of the more durable that Nike has put out in a long time. Not sure how much light footedness has to do with it.
Amazing shoe bro. Really a stable and comfortable ride. Best version of all the Vomero’s till date.
This is my first Vomero, but from what I understand, it's very different from past iterations
Spot on. My favorite pair of shoes.
If you had to choose between the vomero 14 and nb beacon, which one would you pick and why?
I thought you wrote bacon. XD What kind of question is that? Bacon, of course.
It depends on what else I have in my closet in this hypothetical.
Assuming I have zero other shoes in my closet, I'd pick Beacon. It has more versatility
Beacon hands down. Versatile, bouncy ride. Light. Got Vomero for long runs but prefer Beacon even then. Beacon doesn't win Turbo though but Turbo doesn't have traction on packed snow.
I'm a bit late to this comment but I love the vomero and have done many fast runs in it already. I believe the durability of the Vomero is better than the beacon due to a thicker upper and more rubber on the outsole, so for me at least I'd pick the vomero.
Awesome shoe! I have done a whisker over 600 miles in these shoes in the two years i have had them! Have run 10k X 3, Half Marathon X 4 to VLM Marathon & much training!
Awesome video!! Thank you for sharing your experiences!
New here and your reviews are really in depth. Earned my sub!
I'm glad to have earned it. I will endeavor to maintain it
Give me Achilles tendinitis. Aweful shoe. Looks awesome but you are spot on about the pads on the heel. They rub my ankle right at the Achilles insertion point. Been 6 months of pain from 6 weeks of running in these.
Great stuff mate I was tempted but actually went down a different route and picked up some brooks
which ones?
kofuzi glycerin 16 mate 😍😍😍
Also just grabbed some glycerin 16s today, and I can't wait to run in them!
Hi. I’ve been using lunarglides since 2010, now they are being phased out and it has been hard looking for an alternative. I’m considering vomero 14, i have a high arch and my gait supinates. Would you recommend this pair or should i look elsewhere? I run 3-4 times a week for 5-6kms. Thanks in advance
Are you running in the Chicago Half Marathon? I am trying to go from 9.50 minute mile to a 8 minute mile in the Chicago half marathon. Maybe we can run together.
Hi, I'm looking to buy an everyday training shoe and this model is offered in a really good price from a local seller.
It's Nov 2021. Would it be a good buy? Would there be an effect on the foam?
React foam is pretty indestructible. I’d feel good about it
Sir, i just got vomero 14 today and just realized that there are no patent numbers on the swoosh logo and the tounge is a lil bit different.. mine is have more padding on the tounge.. i already check the nike website and there no patent number on swoosh logo (black colour)..
Do you realized?
Thanks for this. Was curious to hear your thoughts. I had such high expectations for Vomero after Epic but they are not fully met. Although better than previous, it's still a heavy and tiring shoe. Notice myself gravitating towards Beacon even for long runs when it's snowy. Considering NB 1080 v9 as alternative to Vomero. Tried them in store and they felt livelier and softer.
i think it depends on what you're looking to get out of this shoe, but i can also see how it's ultimately just not for everyone
I really wanted to love them and they are not bad at all in easy steady pace. I just expected Epic with a rubber outsole. Basically Epic for winter. Realize now that was a bit unrealistic.
Just bought the Vomero 14, and now I'm trying to sell them after 4.5 miles of running. Not impressed.
My first pair I had to send back because the right shoe had an issue where the Zoom Air was either deflated or not functioning correctly (felt like a brick!). Got a 2nd pair and they feel really solid, like alternating them with the Turbos. I thought I wouldn't like this shoe because the forefoot cushion looks so thin, but I've used mine up to 14 mile runs without any discomfort in the forefoot. The combination of Zoom and even that thin amount of React seems to be ok for me as a midfoot striker. Great trainer, especially at its pricepoint!
glad to hear you were able to get a proper pair of these. the react and zoom air are a great combo
I had the same problem and I decided to go for the Pegasus turbo .
Sir can you tell me pls that Pegasus 36 or vomero 14 which one is better for rough use I'm confused totally can you help me to solve this out!
And suppose if you buy one of this shoes then what will you choose?
peg 36
love the 100 Miles reviews!!!!
thanks for watching!
vomero14 vs zoom fly flyknit which one u prefer kofuzi?
depends on the run.
for a long easy run, vomero 14
for a long fast run, zoom fly flyknit
Hello, Kofuzi, I bought the Vomero 14 today and ran in it for a very short distance. I have a slight injury on my right heel after I had run on a mud trail a few months back and this shoe, since it has extra padding on the heel of the shoe, I felt some discomfort by the pressing of the heel cushion on the injured area. In that way, I found the shoes a little uncomfortable.
I tried on Asics GT 2000 v8 a few days back at the shop. It felt comfortable. Should I get that since it does not have such heel padding?
I wouldn’t get the GT 2000v8 unless you need a stability shoe
@@kofuzi thanks so much for your advice!
I really like the Pegasus 36 for shorter faster workouts on a track and some tempos. I also have the flyknit zoom fly and like those for longer workouts and maybe some longer races. I have had previously just had an epic react but I’m look for a new daily trainer and am looking at Nike shoes and was wondering what shoe I should pick? I tend to pronate and still run in neutral shoes I do have insert and tend to like a more snappy responsive ride with some ground feel.
i would move the pegasus to your daily trainer and pick up the turbo for how you're using the pegasus now
does the vomero feel stiff in the cold? i personally don’t wear the peg 35 outdoors in the cold because of how stiff the cushioning can feel in the cold (zoom bag feels stiffer, and i think cushlon is EVA which stiffens up in the cold). i’m pretty sure react isn’t EVA, but maybe the zoom bag feels stiffer in the cold? just wanted to hear your experience in the shoe
I don't think it's stiff in the cold, but then again, I also don't think cushlon feels stiff in the cold. I may be the wrong person to ask this particular question
Great review. Just bought a pair. The peg 35 &36 just don’t work for me but the turbo oh yeah!
Turbo and Vomero make sense together
Hi Kofuzi, do you have the vomero 14, peg turbo 2 and zoom fly 3 in same size, and do they fit different in same size? Thanks...great videos, great shoe reviews...very helpful..
yes
yes
think of them like jeans. cargo jeans, boot cut jeans, and slim fit jeans all fit different. but they have different cuts commensurate with their purpose.
When wearing the Vomero 14 it looks like I have an anchor on my feet. It gives me a very weird running sensation, somehow changes my running dynamics, it's fatiguing even in easy runs. The react midsole provides a better running experience, light, responsive but still offering enough cushioning (up to 10 mile runs).
Is it fatiguing on those 10 mile run's as well?
@@kofuzi unfortunately this shoe does not work for me. It feels really heavy and fatiguing. I strike with midfoot not with the heel. The odyssey react feels very comfortable if you forgive the narrower toebox. I guess I'll be using the Vomero 14 in a workout to endure against carrying something heavy on my feet. 😂
@@pmapires I have the same feeling after having ran on them for around 50km (only long runs, around 12-14km). I'm in the market now for something with "less shoe" on it. And it's strange, but I dare saying it makes my knee ache. Previously I've been running in an old mizuno and it was ok. Since the first time I run in the vomero 14 I felt a little of knee pain, which now is a lot of knee pain and I have an appointment at the doctor today to check it
Some reviews state that the forefoot cushioning is lacking, do you feel the same way? Is the forefoot more cushioned than the Pegasus?
no.
yes.
So most of the run on the treadmill? These are not real conditions to test them
Hi there, enjoying your videos. How does this compare to the Asics Nimbus 20? The Nimbus 21 isn't really the same as the 20 so I'm looking for something that could replace it.
i'm afraid i don't have experience in that shoe
Ok, no worries. Thanks anyway 😊.
Hi Michael, I had the chance to buy another pair of shoes and now I’m been thinking of which shoes of durable, long distances while being able to run with pace. Vomero14, Zoom fly flyknit and Zoom fly. I heard Zoom fly flyknit is very fast and responsive but I’m afraid of the durability.
Both the zoom fly Flyknit and the Vomero are React foam, which is one of the more durable foams I've seen on Nikes in a long time.
kofuzi I had a friend who runs 100km, the sole of the shoe was visible dreadful compare to Pegasus 35 where it seems to hold up to 300km and not much visible.
Kofuzi, could you feel the zoom units under your feet in the forefoot area? I just received my pair and I’m not sure if it’s going to be an issue or not. Didn’t have this while trying Pegasus 35.
I can feel it in each shoe, especially when new
@@kofuzi and it doesn't bother you on longer runs? No pain? That'd be a relief ;) I was afraid to try, to avoid any problems with a return.
it bothers some people, but it doesn't bother me. in fact, as the zoom air wears down and it becomes less prominent, i start to miss it
@@kofuzi thank you very much for your answers :) That's reassuring. Funny though that I didn't feel the zoom units at all in Pegs. Maybe that's because zoom/react difference?
How do you think the vomero would handle easy trail types of runs ? Mostly packed ground with the occasional rocks and uneven hills.
i think they'd be great, as the outsole is a bit nubby. but keep in mind that the ankles are very low cut, so there isn't a lot of lateral support there
kofuzi gotcha. I own a pair of nikes wildhorse and I just needed something to alternate it with. Not too worried about stability . In fact I was worried the vomero would be too protective. Thanks for your reviews!
i also really like the terra kiger 5
Track season is coming up for me and I am doing 1and 2 mile events and my runs will be mostly around 6 ish miles. Which shoe would you recommend?
if you're looking for a nike, i'd look at the pegasus or the turbo for your road miles
Alright thank you for your input.
Great review. It would be helpful if a reviewer did a comprehensive examination of various needs (distance vs speed in sectors or a Venn diagram) and laid out what shoes cover what territory.
I'm pretty nerdy, but even I don't think I can pull off Venn diagram for analyzing running shoes. Or maybe that's exactly what I need to do
Is it just me or is forefoot of the Vomero 14 a bit convex, which makes it a bit wobbly or unstable?
convex or concave is a matter of point of view
#dadjoke aside, in 100 miles of running in this shoe, i did not consider it unstable
kofuzi just wound up liking the Pegasus 36 and Epic React 2 better when running back to back to back. Wound up returning the Vomeros
These will probably be my next daily trainer once my epic reacts retire
i think if you like the Epic React, these will feel great for you
kofuzi I’m stuck on either buying the Vomero 14s or the Epic react flyknit 1! Which do you think is better? I normally only do 5k runs!
Would you recommend the pegasus 36 more or nike vomero 14?
After comparing and using so many different shoes, would you say the extra long tongue of the pegasus 35 is just a gimmick?
NAGULNR2 in my experience it makes the shoe easier to put on, it has no positive or negative effect on performance though.
Many aspects of Nike running shoes are described by Nike as design elements.
For me was the best part of the shoe lol
Where does the turbos fit in?? My next buy are going to be the turbos. Would you prefer the turbos to the 35s?
I think the Turbo fit in for shorter faster work. While I've run in them for 20 mile runs and some people have run marathons in them, I raced a road 5k in them and thought they were quite excellent in that use case
@@kofuzi thanks :) i tried the vomero 14 on and they felt good but i already have brooks ghost and peg 34 i alter between. I also tried the turbos on and they felt bouncy and responsive and im looking forward to getting them :) cheers again kofuzi
I will run my first 21k on 22 of September. I did once 5k in 24 minutes. Any advice how to train for 21k? Just endurance runs 10k daily? Or what?
Advices accepted by anyone.
@@aelfwif4309 thanks for your input. Im 100 % on an amazing diet and eating plan cause im mainly a gym bro.
I kinda regret giving 95 euros for the pegasus 35 cause i feel like i cant appreciate the full potential of the shoes and its so delicate thats only for running and or walking on asphalt.
Vomero 14 and Peg 36 from the reviews i have watched, comes to the conclusion that none is better than but if those your 2 choices i would try them both and get a real feel which one hugs your foot better while tied for running. And or are both again the same feel then go with the one that is prettier to your eyes. I really love the vomero 14 color: Burgundy Ash/Gunsmoke, but i couldn't find them at my size so i just went with the Peg cause of the colored sole.
Greetings from Athens Greece🇬🇷
@sempastian #sempastian
How does the react foam in these compare to the epics react
i think not all React from Nike is created (or formulated equal). the React here is a bit softer, imo. The Epic React is a bit springier and you don't notice the soft until you're running. With the Vomero, I notice the software of React when just walking around. Same with the Zoom Fly Flyknit
I want this shoes black colour for running
Plz suggest where i will buy the original of this shoes
@kofuzi
choosing between the Pegasus 35 and the Turbo, which one would you take? rgds
if you are only going to have one running shoe, then the Pegasus 35 as it is the most versatile. if you already have a daily trainer you like, then the Turbo is a great next shoe to add to your arsenal
@@kofuzi Thanks for your reply. I also wrote you on IG;) I do have a couple of other normal running shoes. Which of these ones would you recommend also for running on gravel? I enjoy that more than tarmac. Would the Zoom Fly Flyknit also be an option? I tried these on but the upper had very minimal support for a non experienced runner!
i've done a fair amount of running on relatively large stone gravel roads in the pegasus 35 and some in the turbo. i'd pick the pegasus for gravel as the Turbo might give you too much road feel if you encounter sharp or large rocks within that gravel.
THANKS MAN!
Eversince I think I had 3-4 vomeros.. I will for sure get one of these🤪
A great shoe
kofuzi
Vomero = Made in China
Pegasus = Made in Vietnam
I loveeeee the vomero 14's too much as they are my first nike shoe
I'm glad you enjoy it
I like these shoes, but are they good for hot summer? What shoes do you advice for hot summer? Thanks
I haven't run in them, in the summer, but I anticipate that they will be average in terms of hot weather performance. I think the Epic React would be a good alternative if heat is a major concern.
@@kofuzi Epic react or Adidas Adizero Adios is good for long run? Thanks a lot!
@@phamthaison9629 both are good for long runs. one is highly cushioned. the other is not. it depends on what you are looking for in your long run
@@kofuzi just for trainning everyday
@@phamthaison9629 what i meant is that, whether i would pick the epic react versus the adios 4 is whether i'm looking for something that is more cushioned or something that is more of a racing flat feel.
@kofuzi I have quite a few shoes that I rotate these days, Turbo, Rincon, Adios 3+4, Ride 7, Kiga 5. I really wanna give the Vomero 14 a try seeing that they are heavily discounted by now but cannot really see where they would fit. For easy days I rotate Turbos, Rincon, and Ride 7. Longer speed work is done in Rincon (Turbo's forefoot is too plush for speed imo), and interval stuff I use the Adios for. I read lots about the Vomero 14's firm forefoot that works against slow and easy pace, which is a bit off-putting.
I'm not sure you need it unless your Ride 7 needs replacing
@@kofuzi I got two pairs of the Ride 7 since they are so cheap. I just wanted to give the V14 a try, but you're right I do not actually need them.
So... for a heavy guy like me. Vomero should be better than pegasus?
Possibly. Have you tried the Pegasus 35 (or 34) or the Epic React?
@@kofuzi I'm currently running in peg 34. After around 3 miles of running I can feel the pain in the midfoot area. Maybe my feet is too wide for peg :(
Both the Vomero and the Epic React have slightly wider toe boxes than the Pegasus
Thank you :) maybe I should try it at the shop later. Subbed ❤
I'm loving the Vomero 14's!
easy to love
What Nike shoe would you recommend for a heavier runner 230lb?
Epic React. Vomero 14. Zoom Fly 3
Which one is better pegasus 35 or vomero 14 or gravity zoom??
Depends on what you are doing (very long run versus shorter regular run), but the answer is definitely not gravity zoom.
@@kofuzi pegasus35 or vomero 14??
I felt loose in the heal in the vomero, I can kinda fix it by almost over tightening the laces. Still won’t replace my regular pegs or ghosts
Even with the weird ankle pillows?
Yeah man those things just kinda cushion and don’t cup the back of the foot for me. But it could be my foot is skinny back there hahah. The ghosts have a nice pillow too but the difference is the heal cup really fits my foot and hugs it firmly.
Eli that's interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Yea its been brutally cold here in New York. Been like in the single digits going into below zero with the wind chill. Haven't been able to run outside.
I'm trying to make peace with the treadmill
@@kofuzi lol
Great shoes
What music did u use for the b roll on the shoe itself?
I've been using Epidemic Sound for the music lately. I've been very happy. Today's track is Towards Success 3 by Peter Sandberg
kofuzi Thanks. Will you be picking up the epic react 2 for a comparison video or no?
The Epic Reacts still work better for me as a daily shoe. The Vomero is a bit heavy and clunky for my taste. It is kinda functioning as my winter snow/mixed surfaces shoe though. I feel like the heel is very heavy and built up and the forefoot is somewhat thin. This is definitely a heel strike shoe. I am surprised by how tired I feel in this shoe in comparison to the Epic React though, where the miles feel pretty smooth and effortless. I feel like the Vomero is fighting me a bit at my normal and long run paces of like 7:20. If only the Epic React was better in the winter...
have you tried the odyssey react shield? i haven't had a chance to get to it, but if you prefer the Epic React while using the Vomero for winter running, I'm wondering if that might be the right mix for you.
@@kofuzi I had tried the normal Odyssey React, but the shoe doesn't have quite the same shape as the Epic, oddly enough. The forefoot is very narrow, and the upper was very uncomfortably plasticy and not adaptable up front. If it had the wider forefoot of the Epic, and a more adaptable upper in the toebox, I would be all in.
Sounds like we had similar reactions to this shoe. Thought this would a sturdier epic React, which I love, but it feels so clunky and tiring to me. Long happy history running in Nikes, but this one is a no go for me.
Great video! Do you run on tracks to practice? What is the best shoes for interval training on tracks?
i don't spend a ton of time on the track, usually in the spring and early summer.
if you've got a good track surface, almost any shoe will be great - the track takes care of the cushioning and responsiveness. i'd look for something light.
what distances are you running for your intervals?
what do you race in?
what do you currently have?
@@kofuzi
usually 400m x 10 for my intervals. I race in Zoom Fly Flyknit these days and I also have Pegasus 35 and Pegasus 35 Turbo in my current rotation. I usually run my intervals in Pegasus 35 and feel pretty good about it. Wondering if you would have some better option? :)
hsw how about a track spike or flat?
@@kofuzi will try, thanks!
So for Marathon distance 18+ mi would you reach for that shoe? vapor fly 4%? im not fast by any means but i am contemplating a long distance shoe at the moment
i wouldn't race in these. i don't really think that's what they're intended for
kofuzi yeah I know it would be a stretch, just thought I would ask. Still debating on a race day shoe but I need to decided quick since I’m about a month out of my race. Right now I’d be running In my peg Turbo or Zoom Fly. That’s if I don’t go with the 4%
Go for the vapor fly .because these wont really feel good for speed.
I returned my Vomero's for the Peg Turbo. Like them much better.
Very different shoes
j'ai les 3 zoom fly flyfnit, pegasus 35 et depuis peu la vomero 14 en noir comme sur la video . mon avis , c'est une trés bonnes chaussures pour l'entrainement toutes distances confondues par contre pour la vitesse la zoom fly flyknit est vraiment au dessus. l'amortie de la vomero 14 est un régal comparé a la pegasus 35 . si je devait choisir entre vomero 14 et pegasus 35 je pense m' orienté vers la vomero 14 . j'ai pesé ses deux chaussures est à ma grande surprise il n'y avait que 4 gr d'écart !
Not run in Nike's yet. Interesting to watch this.
what do you normally run in?
@@kofuzi I am an ASICS and Mizuno man!
@@matthewdeller2003 i used to run in mizuno years ago. it's a brand that i want to love again. i just haven't found the right shoe for me from them.
Does anybody feel these run a tad long and are wider than the Pegasus?
They are a bit roomier
Very cool intro 👌🏼
Thank you!
Is it a training shoe or pure running shoe
i'm not sure what you mean by training. like cross training or for use in the gym? i'm sure you could use it that way, although i think lateral ankle support is a bit lacking in this shoe (not a problem for "pure running")
Love the intro music...
thanks!
I got pair but its too tide even i took half size bigger than my regular size
nike running shoes do run snug
Awesome review. I've been looking for my next replacement shoe. I'm currently in the ghost 11 and really enjoy them. Between the ghost and vomero, which do you find better for the half to full marathon distance?
My only experience with the Ghost is with the Ghost 11 GTX, and I'm not that excited about it. If the Ghost 11 is anything like the 11 GTX, I'd pick the Vomero
Ive done 350 miles with my vomero 14 and they are in better condition.
You must have a cleaner footstrike than me. That's fantastic!
I like this shoe more than than Vomero 15.
Should i pick vomero or infinity react for long run easy? I have rincon already for my faster shoe
HOVR
I am scratching my head trying to see the "value" of this shoes vs the Peg 35 as a daily trainer. It is heavier and more pricey. What exactly V14 can do that P35 can't?
I think it handles longer distances better. While they are both 10mm drop shoes, the angle of attack on these shoes is different.
If your only two metrics are price and oz, I can see why you are struggling to see the distinction. I've discussed t more thoroughly previously in a video entitled Vomero vs Pegasus.
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In my opinion for LSD run Glycerin 16 or NB 1080v9 probably are better choice for the job.
Paid $79 for my pair! Replacing my good old Asics Cumulus 20. I don't think I've ever paid more than $85 for running shoes lmao
i had mine for abt 6 months and i have abused the sole into oblivion
nice analysis!! hoping you try UA stuff, like the Phantom SE.
We'll see about UA. It's a maybe at the moment
Just bought the Vomero 14, and now I'm trying to sell them after 4.5 miles of running. Not impressed.
Sorry to hear they didn’t work out for you. What are you running in instead?
@@kofuzi Hoka Stinson Lite is great. Nimbus changes around and sucked for the last 6-7 years. Gonna try Glycerin.
1:02 Lol. We have the same model treadmill at my condo.
Do you know how to get it into marathon mode?
@@kofuzi Sadly no. I could only get it to max 60 mins plus the 5 min cool down.
I've had and worn out 4 pairs of Vomeros before (11*2, 12 & 13) and loved them for recovery runs and slow long runs, so I wanted to love the 14s, even more so as most reviewers were thrilled about them. But as gorgeous as they are (probably the prettiest pair of sneakers I've ever purchased), I found them horrible to run in. The midsole is too thin at the forefront for a midfoot striker like me, the rubber is too hard and outright incomfortable, and the upper is just dreadful : the tongue is too short and presses heavily against the front of top of the foot, and the side is cut so low against the ankle that it makes the whole shoe very unstable. After 500 meters, I knew I had made a mistake, but at first I thought it couldn't be that bad, and that with a little breaking-in (that most Vomeros require), it would be better. It didn't. I managed to sprain an ankle after barely 20kms in them :-( Horrible horrible shoes... I replaced them with Pegasus Turbo 1 and it's night and day: the Peg Turbo are super comfy, light and cushioned at the same time. I'm loving those shoes! They will definitely be my trainers for the next Chicago marathon.
Sorry to hear that you didn't like your vomeros
@@kofuzi Well, it happens... No biggie (except for the sprained ankle). To each his own, anyway.
That ankle is what turned me off from this when I tried it on a test run. Shame, as I really wanted to love it.
i found it strange and distracting, but not so much that it was uncomfortable or effected my run
Hi you all from Greece. Having watched every major review of this shoe, I decided to give it a go. So far, after 49 km in them, I'm disappointed. Coming from the Kinvara 9 (and 6 before them), I'm having some major issues. Firstly, the air pocket. It's sth that you definately feel, as if it pushes the ball of your foot upwards. And that causes the so called hot feet, every single time I run. After km No.6 it's there to bug you. Again and again (and again..). No matter how I land my foot, it gets worse, taking all the fun out of my runs. And then it's the lacing. For those who'll buy it, try not to tighten them. My right upper foot still hurts, but being fair after I spent some 10 mins to readjust the lacing, I think I've got it. Oh, the tongue is short and not that cushy. I can't use the 7th holes for the laces, because then I get another ache at the contact point with my feet. But at the end of the day, why do I have to get this annoying hot foot feeling? Yesterday I did a 15km run, to see if it is a matter of breaking in of the shoe. But it isn't. And if it is, why should it be there, when both my Kinvaras where a case of wear-and-forget shoe? Honestly, I waited so much to get the Vomeros, and I'm seriously thinking of keeping them only as a sneaker pair, spending extra and unplanned euros for a decent pair to do my runs. FYI, I'm 1,79cm (think that's 5 ft 11,5 in or so), 75kg (around 160 pounds?), with a quite narrow foot, so I dont think my biomechanics get in the way - at least they didn't with any other shoe I had (surely far less that Kofuzi tries). What I wanna say is, try to feel the shoe when you try it on, and see how it fits to your shoe. Hope you won't get my issues. Only good thing I must say, is that they are fast compared to the characterless Kinvaras (didn't feel that until I saw my watch).
the kinvara is a very different shoe. i think saucony likes to sneak in some stability in even their neutral shoes. i generally find that people that love the kinvara tend to have love/hate relationships with nike shoes. certain ones they love. and certain ones they just can't stand,
@@kofuzi Hi, appreciate your fast reply. Well I'm not in love with the Kinvara, I found it to be nothing special and the everun gave me some issues (think it would be better off without it), but it surely is more comfy. You think I should persist with the vomero until I get used to it, or am I risking some chronic injury? Because I really like the way they look and I like wearing them...
I also get the sensation of hot feet from Vomero 14. I’m a Nike guy but having difficulty with this pair. Also, agree on not to lace up too tight. I tend to lace tight on all my shoes but with Vomero, I really have to be careful . Feel that it facilitates the burning sensation on the bottom of my feet. I do like the way it fits on my feet and how light it feels vs. prior versions. But i miss the forefoot cushion of vomero 12 on the vomero 14. Hope that I will warm up to the shoes after more miles. I was really looking forward to this pair for long runs and on road for cushion. But the new version feels more like pegasus than prior version vomeros as for plushness and cushion.
@@patrickmaher4944 You're so right about the lack of forefoot cushion, I feel the same, even though I haven't tried the 12s to compare. Sb below (I think) wrote that this is more of a heel-landing shoe (due to the much plusher feel back). Well, I tried it on my yesterday's run and I can tell you that it worked, the burn was almost gone (barely noticeable), perhaps you should try it for yourself and see. I think that time is needed with this shoe to get used to it and let it work for you, rather than against you. Will try to ramp up the miles gradually to give my feet the time they need to adopt. Hope it works, as I also want to love those shoes...
@@vassilistriantafillidis2352 i didn't feel any hotspots with this shoe, although i definitely did with the Epic React, which has similar midsole foam (just no zoom air pocket).
Pls review hoka one one evo rehi
hmmm. i've got a different hoka on my list to try for 2019. but i may have to add that one as well.
Boa resenha desse modelo da Nike. Também tenho um vídeo do Nike Air Zoom Vomero no meu canal.
Great
Thanks!
Hi random person scrolling in the comments
yo
It‘s kind of infuriating that Nike keeps getting wrong either the toe box fit, lacing, tongue, heel cup or any combination of those. Sheesh, these shoes are incredibly narrow (I do not have wide feet and slide in many other shoes) and have heel slip despite those little pillows. The tongue is questionable as well and the laces have to spread out more than on any other Nike I‘ve had.
All in all incredibly flawed, stay away people I have massive buyers remorse!
Sorry to hear that.
Pretty much all Nike shoes released in 2018 were too snug. I believe they fixed it with the 2019 releases, but unless I’m mistaken, there isn’t a Vomero 15
team pegasus 35 here
Nice!
Horrible Nike Vomero 14, I recommend New Balance 1080v instead.
fwiw, there was a solid 10 or 11 months where the vomero 14 existed and the 1080v10 did not
First :)
nice
Is the outside wall also react?
i'm not sure what you mean by outside wall. the entire midsole is React, except for the Zoom Air pocket.