Teaching a horse to want to stay in the spin
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2011
- Here Warwick shows you how the philosophy of Making The Wrong Thing Hard And The Right Thing easy applies to something a bit more technical like a reining spin.
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I tried this on my reiner it was amazing, her entire demeanor changed, she was so much happier to give me what I wanted, thank you so much!
I tried this on my 3yr old and it worked wonderfully. This technique makes perfect sense. She wants to spin now. Great horse and rider in the video. :)
Slowly working my way through your videos. I love all your work!
Thank you Mr. Schiller! I can't wait to try this exercise!!!
Dude, you have a great way of explaining things in a very natural way.. Love your work... Come to the states, we'll have you at our place AnyTime!
Dude, I live in the States !
All I can say is I am proud to call you my Friend now! And that offer stands even AFTER I've met ya!~
Most people dont do that AFTER they meet me !
Love it thanks for giving such clear instruction to us and the horse! very kind!
Just Magnificent , legendary man !!!!
This is SO cool!!
Thanks for the great advice. I always catch myself doing too much trying to get my mare to spin a bit faster, but the more I do the less she does! Great reminders here :) Very cute colt as well.
Excellent!
Brilliant!
Makes so much sense!
I needed this video so much. My reiner has been lazy lately in his spins.
Will have to try that.
great job,I see you have 5 thumbs down,it is amazing that you can't please everyone,I just wonder what video those idiots were watching,cuz this video is great.thanks from the
RanLin Ranch
This little video is so great. I tried this tonight on my mare who I really struggle with. She knows how to spin but hasn't liked it and I don't ride it that well. Oh My ... She showed me that she knows it. Only did a little, so she could feel my approval and we ended a ride where we worked on spinning, on a good note for once! I never thought about the right thing easy philosophy for spinning. Thank you!
Great work Laurel.
I don't know how I missed knowing about you until this week. I forget to add above that even though I was not concerned about form, as you instructed, my mare did drill a few holes in the footing with the inside hind hoof. Made me smile.
I dont believe he was offended, its how many trainers teach, answering a question with a question. I think this guy knows what he is doing, atleast from what i can tell from this video. He would be a good one to learn from. :) Spinning is a maneuver that is part of a reining pattern. Cutters use a similar technique to teach there horses to stop and turn correctly and as fast as possible. ;)
Great advice, love the way he gets his hind legs right underneath him 😲
Why does a horse need to know how to jump ? Or run around a racetrack ? Or play polo ? Or do dressage ?
hey, this is very good! your right! I should'nt be turning his head and using leg aids. Thank you!! :D
Do you find using a bit better for initial learning for reining? My arabian mare is much more comfortable with a bit-less bridle. Less head tossing and more stopping power in my observations. Would getting weighted reins be just as effective alternative with the bit-less vs. if I would use a tom-thumb?
I have a mare that will spin, but uses the outside pivot foot. I try to keep driving her forwards out of the spin. But it is hard for me to tell when she is on the wrong pivot foot. I have to have someone watching me, or filming me. She seems to arch her rib cage away from my outside foot. I think this may be the problem, but how else do I get a lazy type horse to build speed in the spin?
How would you add speed to that?
So is this a good example of letting your horse make the mistake? Which in this case is coming out of the spin? Since the alternative is to catch them before they come out, do they not learn as well if you do that? Thanks!
I loved this method with my gelding and he picked it up real fast. That was about 6 years ago now, he will now anticipate it but I get him between my legs and it stops. #journeyon20
Hi Warwick! Great video, just like the rest of 'em! :) I had a question. Do you recommend the horse to know how to neck rein before trying this, or can you do it direct reining/plow reining? Thank you! :)
I'm not the expert here, but I'd say it is necessary due to the nature of the maneuver. That outside (neck/indirect) rein is, in addition to your leg, what is pushing the body around the pivot foot, and without that you're just going to be walking around in circles with your horse's head pulled to the inside.
probably this is best way to teach the spin to the horses ( sorry about my english)
So one question: If I do this successfully, but my horse decided to spin like a bottle instead of a correct spin? I mean I taught the horse to spin on himself, but not technically correct...? Your horse spun correctly around his inside hind foot from the beginning...
I love your work Mr. Schiller. Omar Helfmann here from Pirque, Chile. Quick question: on this process of teaching the horse to learn to want to stay in the spin, how often would you alternate from left spin work to right spin work and viceversa? Cheers!
Usually I will work on anything on one side until they start to "get it".
@@WarwickSchiller thank you!!!
Do horses get dizzy?
Warwick, quick question - When you back him after he falls out of the spin, to put him back in, doesn't that cause a complete loss of forward motion? I noticed towards the middle-end of this video that the horse was spinning like a bottle, not planting the pivot foot and sometimes using the wrong pivot foot. I've always learned and experienced the necessity of forward motion in the process of a proper turnaround, but in this video and in your other video on teaching turnarounds that you seem to pull the horses backwards into the turnaround. Maybe I'm not entirely understanding it, though. If you have time, I'd love to hear back from you!
Thanks!
It looks to me as if his only concern here is to make the horse want to stay in the spin. Then he can clean it up once he gets that down.
Just curious .. what type of substrate is being used in this arena ?
Crushed dolomite
Probably I havent noticed, but which leg and which side of rein you are using to make horse spin? Is it same like in example of turning to the right/left?
neither
The manoeuvre is really just an exaggerated form of turning on the haunches which of course comes in handing when you're cutting cows :)
Ladies, take note - when he does what you want, stop nagging!! XD
Hi,
I've had a young mare since shes 2years old. I've trained her with reining basics, but with force and fear.Sadly I knew this only technique because my teachers we're doing it this way''if you want you horse to listen to you, got to hit harder on her''Since I've moved from this farm, and I'm on my own, I want to start again the right way. She's now 6y old,is it to late? Because I realized she's afraid of me and I don't want to ride her in the same way I did. Now I cant even catch her..
Why not?
Instructions unclear, I ended up teaching my horse the golden rectangle ratio and now whatever I hold with my hand while riding my horse, it starts magically spinning
never use a tom thumb for anything. These bit are just horrible all around. For reining, I like bits with a billy allen mouthpiece. It doesn't have the nutcracker effect and is one of the most kindest bits to use.
Aww, you just have a horse that understands English!
I will use a shank bit on any of them that are lazy, or pull on my hands. I need them to know that going backwards is how they relieve the pressure. I do not want a horse that does not want to get on its hocks pulling on me to get relief.