Thanks soo much! Your explanation and demonstration was excellent and I can't wait to get home and give it another try! I'm shiny new to reining and have struggled with the spin concept. Being a former barrel racer I believe I over flex and it works against me (sigh). I'll def try the "star" patten and pay attention when horse "sucks back" and walk out of it.
Great advice...I have a coming 3yr old Shining Spark/Smart Chic Olena stallion that I'm just really starting to work (he's small so we waited a bit longer), definitely picked up some pointers on really teaching him to be soft at the poll and good with his flexing before we move on. I've always trained WP horses, so this trying to train a more reining bred colt is a little different for me.
I especially like he used a young inexperienced horse. Can,t wait to try it,I have been trying to hold the horse, so this is something that made sense to me.
very good explanation,but i would like more hints about what to do with the legs,and also the chronology of preparatory exercises that you showed in the begining.hello from romania!
Sweetheart is starting to keep one back foot in place and spin around it. Not very fast yet, but he does it right off when asked so that's a pretty decent start.
My horse max has the potential to be a barrel/reigning horse. One of the things you talked about after lateral flexing (which he has) was pushing the hind end under him the disengaging thing...he doesn't have that. When I ask him to work in a small circle like demonstrated in the begging, he stops and flexes his neck. I'm 14 and I really don't know that much about training a horse only for barrel racing so I would really appreciate some help. Max is 10 and really high strung, I have had him for about a year now, he was abused and his rescuers worked on some stuff with him but they didn't have that much time to work with him so I think they left a lot of fundamentals out. Now when I go to do certain things I think he gets confused and doesn't know what I am asking of him, not his fault he gets confused. Also he is very responsive and a quick learner but a little to excited/high-strung/hot headed/ nervouse and anticipates what I want to do before I ask him to sometimes any advice on that?
People who don’t like bits are usually the people who shouldn’t have horses you can cause pain with a bit if you do it wrong but to take away the bit doesn’t fix the problem you can cause all sorts of pain with ‘bit less’ bridles and the worst part is that it’s usually a misunderstanding of the fundamentals that’s the source of the problem
Hi, how long has this particular horse been broke? Also, do you have any series of a young horse from the first ride to this, I'm interested in seeing how you did this.
I have a filly here I'll be starting soon, she turns 2 in a week. What age was he started? I might just have to go check out that series, this is the first time I've seen a video of yours and I like how you train.
+WarwickSchiller what do you do when the horse keeps making tiny circles and moves to forward? my horse will go into the spin the first few steps and then likes to go forward and start tiny circles. I've tried backing her up and then starting again but it seems to just frustrate her, ive been trying for around a month and have even taught it on the ground but can seem to apply it in the saddle.
Do you have a video on training a horse to back/stop and bend at the poll? I have a three year old that flexes beautifully laterally to almost no pressure at all. I am struggling with getting her "snappy" in her response to a woah and back. She is naturally very lazy but I want to keep her soft. I am unsure how to approach her.
This doesn't pertain to a spin, but I have a question. Whenever I ask my horse to lope, she normally starts to bit on the bit. Do you know any reasons she could be doing this? I know the bit and bridle are put on correctly and in good condition.
What if you have a horse that has had their mouth "worn out."?; a horse that is used to someone hanging on their mouth all the time. Do you use the same steps of teaching flexing?
Looks like my nag will not be spinning anytime soon. i dont like the horse to break too much at the pole as they tuck too much and lose some balance. thanks for your time.
That's because your nag either has no concept of collection and using his hocks, or lacks the athletic ability to collect and use his hocks. The first and most likely scenario is your fault.
Because spurs give much more refined cues. Think trying to type with your fist vs. typing with a finger. The spur is more exact and can push 'buttons' more precisely
If you’re good with spurs like he is it’s just a light touch that the horse knows you didn’t do by mistake so it becomes a super subtle conversation with the horse
No judgement, purely curious: do you, as of today, think backing a 2 yr. old is too young? Europe won't back a horse before 3 yrs. old because their spine is still growing? American racing races at 2, but some horses are only 1.8 yrs old? Truly want your thoughts? Of course, EU also has far more strict food quality standards than U.S. does. I know QH are so solid but....??? PS: I have been singing your praises on many sites, and getting trolled because I champion you.. and not the idiot, vicious, cruel "trainers."
@@WarwickSchiller - sorry, was prob. using British term, old term is breaking to saddle. He looks like a super solid horse. Just wanted your opinion if you think riding a 2 yr. old is too early for the horse. Sorry if I was confusing. I think your training methods are incredible. 👏👏👏
WarwickSchiller. Thankyou so much. You're a pleasure to listen to. You have a wonderful calm,clear, humble manner with the horses. A true horseman with a humble attitude..a rare find!!! Thanks again 👍
Annnnd.... I clicked away when he said "this is a 2 year old" and followed it with "I've ridden him quite a bit" No. Just, no. As a horse trainer, please say NO to training a 2 year old!
@@cgla6935 No. Just, no. 2 year olds being ridden is too young. I don't care who you are, it's too young, no matter what your credentials are. Until trainers refuse to back those babies it will never change. This is money talking, nothing else. And I will argue that with anyone, no matter what their name is. If this were are 10 year old kid, you'd be horrified.
This guy is worth your attention.
Thank you for a proper teaching video! I especially love the bit where you get off the horse to demonstrate the foot pattern.
Absolutely the best spin teaching video ever!
I filmed that in May, and he was started around February first, so like 3 1/2 months .
Thanks soo much! Your explanation and demonstration was excellent and I can't wait to get home and give it another try! I'm shiny new to reining and have struggled with the spin concept. Being a former barrel racer I believe I over flex and it works against me (sigh). I'll def try the "star" patten and pay attention when horse "sucks back" and walk out of it.
Forward motion is everything.
Originally Australia, now I live in Hollister California.
Excellent, I particularly like the spiraling in exercise... great advice, thank you
Great advice...I have a coming 3yr old Shining Spark/Smart Chic Olena stallion that I'm just really starting to work (he's small so we waited a bit longer), definitely picked up some pointers on really teaching him to be soft at the poll and good with his flexing before we move on. I've always trained WP horses, so this trying to train a more reining bred colt is a little different for me.
That is a two year old?? what a tank!
Ha have a 18 month Hollywood dun it greatgrandson thats bigger....15 hands already!
Nicely presented.
Basically dressage principals of rhythm, footfall and keep the forward motion.
I have all the footage of teaching Jimmy to slide , on my website
Excellent! Thank you!
Great horse. Great rider. Amazing team.
I especially like he used a young inexperienced horse. Can,t wait to try it,I have been trying to hold the horse, so this is something that made sense to me.
That is a beautiful horse! You are a great rider and you guys do make a fantastic team!!! :)
Great Demo.. Great Explanations..
very good explanation,but i would like more hints about what to do with the legs,and also the chronology of preparatory exercises that you showed in the begining.hello from romania!
Really appreciate these videos. Very helpful!
This technique really does work.
this is exactly what I need at this moment, great video!
Thank you
Great work and teaching.
Nice demo.
Sweetheart is starting to keep one back foot in place and spin around it. Not very fast yet, but he does it right off when asked so that's a pretty decent start.
Very nice video
Great video, thank you! Do you remember about how many rides you had on this colt at the time?
My horse max has the potential to be a barrel/reigning horse. One of the things you talked about after lateral flexing (which he has) was pushing the hind end under him the disengaging thing...he doesn't have that. When I ask him to work in a small circle like demonstrated in the begging, he stops and flexes his neck. I'm 14 and I really don't know that much about training a horse only for barrel racing so I would really appreciate some help. Max is 10 and really high strung, I have had him for about a year now, he was abused and his rescuers worked on some stuff with him but they didn't have that much time to work with him so I think they left a lot of fundamentals out. Now when I go to do certain things I think he gets confused and doesn't know what I am asking of him, not his fault he gets confused. Also he is very responsive and a quick learner but a little to excited/high-strung/hot headed/ nervouse and anticipates what I want to do before I ask him to sometimes any advice on that?
Punkinspice33. Hope you changed your mind that is a great way to damage and lose your horse. Just enjoy him and get RID of the bit
What's wrong with having a bit though?
People who don’t like bits are usually the people who shouldn’t have horses you can cause pain with a bit if you do it wrong but to take away the bit doesn’t fix the problem you can cause all sorts of pain with ‘bit less’ bridles and the worst part is that it’s usually a misunderstanding of the fundamentals that’s the source of the problem
beautiful!
Hi, how long has this particular horse been broke? Also, do you have any series of a young horse from the first ride to this, I'm interested in seeing how you did this.
+Ashley Cortes Yes, I have that on my website, he'd been under saddle about 4 months
I have a filly here I'll be starting soon, she turns 2 in a week. What age was he started? I might just have to go check out that series, this is the first time I've seen a video of yours and I like how you train.
+WarwickSchiller what do you do when the horse keeps making tiny circles and moves to forward? my horse will go into the spin the first few steps and then likes to go forward and start tiny circles. I've tried backing her up and then starting again but it seems to just frustrate her, ive been trying for around a month and have even taught it on the ground but can seem to apply it in the saddle.
Question! When you are circling smaller and smaller are you giving him a rein cue with the outside hand to get him to pivot?
I have a horse who will start to spin and then move into a turn on the forehand... Any tips?
Do you have a video on training a horse to back/stop and bend at the poll? I have a three year old that flexes beautifully laterally to almost no pressure at all. I am struggling with getting her "snappy" in her response to a woah and back. She is naturally very lazy but I want to keep her soft. I am unsure how to approach her.
Use a surcingle or martigale and set head
Love watching your videos :)
This doesn't pertain to a spin, but I have a question. Whenever I ask my horse to lope, she normally starts to bit on the bit. Do you know any reasons she could be doing this? I know the bit and bridle are put on correctly and in good condition.
Nice Thks so much!!:)
What if you have a horse that has had their mouth "worn out."?; a horse that is used to someone hanging on their mouth all the time.
Do you use the same steps of teaching flexing?
Bosel
Looks like my nag will not be spinning anytime soon. i dont like the horse to break too much at the pole as they tuck too much and lose some balance. thanks for your time.
That's because your nag either has no concept of collection and using his hocks, or lacks the athletic ability to collect and use his hocks. The first and most likely scenario is your fault.
DAH that is not a fence at all it is a wall DAH!!
Where r u from?
Horses? The spin? welp time to sit back and watch some steel ball run
Artigato, Gyro...
what do you mean close your fingers?
You ride loose handed with your hands relaxed and when your ready to stop or something, you slowly close your hands and make them into a fist kind of
Seems like a decent trainer but why does he need spurs??
Kimberley Gager to cute the horse more precisely and to encourage him to move off his leg if he gets lazy.
Because spurs give much more refined cues. Think trying to type with your fist vs. typing with a finger. The spur is more exact and can push 'buttons' more precisely
If you’re good with spurs like he is it’s just a light touch that the horse knows you didn’t do by mistake so it becomes a super subtle conversation with the horse
No judgement, purely curious: do you, as of today, think backing a 2 yr. old is too young? Europe won't back a horse before 3 yrs. old because their spine is still growing? American racing races at 2, but some horses are only 1.8 yrs old? Truly want your thoughts? Of course, EU also has far more strict food quality standards than U.S. does. I know QH are so solid but....??? PS: I have been singing your praises on many sites, and getting trolled because I champion you.. and not the idiot, vicious, cruel "trainers."
I didnt back him, we only rode forward
@@WarwickSchiller - sorry, was prob. using British term, old term is breaking to saddle. He looks like a super solid horse. Just wanted your opinion if you think riding a 2 yr. old is too early for the horse. Sorry if I was confusing. I think your training methods are incredible. 👏👏👏
* bite
If you don't teach a horse to disengage his hip (aka one rein stop ) you won't have the problem of him using the wrong pivot foot in the spin.
+Barry Sanborn Right Barryy, wheres your video ?
WarwickSchiller. Thankyou so much. You're a pleasure to listen to. You have a wonderful calm,clear, humble manner with the horses. A true horseman with a humble attitude..a rare find!!! Thanks again 👍
If you dont teach a horse to disengage his hip (aka one rein stop) you will have the problem of not being able to stop him when spooked.
Annnnd.... I clicked away when he said "this is a 2 year old" and followed it with "I've ridden him quite a bit"
No.
Just, no. As a horse trainer, please say NO to training a 2 year old!
But they have 2 year old reining futuritys?
@@ryalv4054 I know, but that doesn't mean they should.
I’ve heard of him and I’ve never heard of you... he’s one of the most thought out guys out there might want to think twice before arguing with him
@@cgla6935 No. Just, no.
2 year olds being ridden is too young.
I don't care who you are, it's too young, no matter what your credentials are.
Until trainers refuse to back those babies it will never change. This is money talking, nothing else.
And I will argue that with anyone, no matter what their name is.
If this were are 10 year old kid, you'd be horrified.
It is scientifically proven that quarter horse’s bones develop much earlier than other horses, therefore they can be started younger.
I wonder why he uses a bit.
Because he’s a really good horseman