Columbus Neighborhoods: Columbus' High Street in 1973
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2018
- In 1973, five photographers spent one year documenting High Street, from the Scioto Downs area south of I-270 to north of the Pontifical College in Worthington. What can we learn from the photos today about the forces that change some areas while leaving others virtually untouched?
Historic photos: Courtesy of Ohio History Connection
Going down to Lazarus on the # 8 bus with my grandma to pick up her paycheck in the 1970's and seeing all of the different people is one of my fondest memories of what is now a bloodless shopping mall of a city.
@Worships Cats Don't worry, there are Columbus ads in Lexington.
I was, born in Columbus Ohio as was my brother, 1957, and 59. My dad was at Wright Patterson and Richenbacker field and my mom was working at Lazarus when they met. Dad moved us to Texas and discharged in San Antonio. I went back to stay with family in 77, 78 and 79 walked all over downtown. I used to love eating at Wendy's downtown.
Capturing our living history is so important. It’s a snapshot of the times we live in for future generations. Love this series on UA-cam.
Sadly History is being Destroyed now.
I saw Jerry's restaurant. Such an iconic Columbus sign.
aw my grandma worked there in the 70s when she was younger! She’s told so many stories about it
I agree!
We used to cruise there on Saturday nights. It was quite lively then. I think it's a T-Jay's country breakfast now.
@@bruceferguson6637 It's a chick-fil-a now, the T-Jay's closed a while ago
As a kid in the '70s and '80s I would get to go downtown maybe 2-3 times per year and it was always a memorable trip for a kid living on the North Side. I've been living downtown now for almost 10 years and while it is different, High St is still a great place with plenty of diversity and activity. Times keep changing, so for those who bemoan the changes, remember that the people who came before you probably didn't like your ideal version of High St (or pick a place). I prefer to enjoy the present, remember the past, and look forward to the future.
Neat little documentary! I’m from Dayton, Ohio and in 1975 I was attending a small junior college pursuing an associates in accounting degree. Our school played another junior college in Columbus in basketball. The basketball team and students took a bus to the game…one bus! Afterwards we ended up near the OSU student Union on high street. I was floored by the number of bars and little businesses up and down the street. Crossed over to the east side of the street and entered a multi story lounge with loud music and I believe a dance floor in the middle which everyone could look down on from upper floors.
I suppose that building is no longer there…just curious to know more about it.
Magical experience.
I was born in 1973, and recognize some of this. I’m now a Realtor here in Columbus, and it’s amazing driving around and seeing how things are different.
Do you have a man
7:17 Jerry Gordon. I loved that man when I was a kid, he was so nice. I used to go to his shop almost everyday for lunch. My elementary school was a couple of doors down. He and his mother would be working and I loved to buy a little block of chocolate that they made. Thank you for bringing back the good memories I had as a kid. It was good seeing Jerry Gordon again.
He was also one of the first in Columbus to sell Hagen Dazs ice cream, that was in the early 80's. I use to stop in after class at OSU.
I moved to Columbus in 1977, and Gordon's was still going strong,.....I came here to go to grad school at OSU. My fellow grad students, and I, we lived in the north campus,....now called The Old North. We all frequented Gordon's,....it was such neat old time ice cream parlor. Chocolate dipped strawberries, for Valentine's Day was a favorite treat. My sweetie at the time and I, treated each other to them.
My parents moved to Columbus for work shortly after WW2 and lived around Goodale Park for several years. I was born in the '50s at old White Cross Hospital, which overlooked Goodale Park. White Cross built a new hospital on West North Broadway on what was then the north edge of town in 1961 (I think) and changed their name to Riverside Methodist Hospital. By the time of my earliest memories we had moved to the Grandview area and that's where I grew up, but we still came back to the old area around Goodale to visit people and/or ride the CTC (later COTA) bus downtown to shop. I remember the early '70s in that area very well and was half expecting to see a familiar face in these photos.
thanks for posting! i miss that era of columbus! we had so much fun in those days!
Absolutely fascinating!!!!!! WOSU you've done it again, this is my NEW favorite video of all your collection on UA-cam (til the next even greater one comes out LOL)!
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I was raised in Columbus and was fascinated with High Street in particular. I would wander up and down the street, sometimes on a bicycle, motorcycle, walking, or skateboard from the 90's to early 2000s. It's an interesting place to be.
I moved to Columbus in 1977, and worked in the deteriorating (old) Short North, for a couple of years in a non-profit art gallery. Back then the building was referred to as "the Functional Furnishings" building, as they held/occupied several store fronts on the southern end. The building is called The Yukon Building and it is still there in 2019, and has been totally restored, including the apartments on the upper floors. Back then, in the mid to late 1970s the Short North was occupied by many, (x-rated) adult "men's books stores,..where pornography could be purchased, in magazines and books. Winos and bums outnumbered the regular folks and workers. (Nudie Bar) strip joints were also present. Store front rental was so devalued, at that time, it was common for a bunch of artists to create a collective, & share the rent costs and put some money into fixing the space up, into art studios and a gallery. Many of my friends did this. I was and still am an artist,....having received my MFA from OSU, in 1979.
and thus, the Gallery Hop began in the 80s, just as you described it.. artists pooling their money and fixing up studios.. I remember it well.
I love going to Columbus Ohio and visiting the Short North. That is the first place I drove through when I went to Columbus. It's hard for me to believe that area was a dump at one time.
@@davidgaddy4328 It was so scary in the mid to late 70s, in The Short North. It had once been a Mecca of fine shopping,...until the early 1960s. The building of I-670 highway corridor, meant High Street had to be closed down. That lead to every business going under. They closed one by one, and had to move elsewhere. Luckily the suburbs were just building the first wave of shopping malls, and many moved , north, south, east and west, where new plazas and malls were being built. Like Northland Mall, and the others. From just south of 5th Ave. to Goodale Street,.....the businesses all left. The bars & taverns remained,....Junk stores and used furniture stores, moved in. Many blocks were just vacant, with windows boarded up. The buildings were subject to vandalism, and fires,...squatters lived in some. It was a mess. Goodale Park was a dangerous place to go,....nobody went there, it wasn't the wonderful place it has become. All those mansions that surrounded the park were dilapidated slum rooming houses. The presently beautiful, all restored areas of Victorian & Italian village,....were not nice,....they were scary hell-holes. Many of those amazing mansions we see today,.....were run down, & falling apart,....roofs caving in. In the early 1970s, you could buy a mansion with a carriage house, for around $20 grand. They were dirt cheap. Now they sell in the millions.
@@Davett53 thank for explaining exactly what happened and how things got to where they are now.
@@davidgaddy4328 You're obviously a "night owl',..like myself,...or an early riser,....I am surprised I have someone to communicate with who's up when I am. I'm an old dude, and a fan of the history of Columbus, my background is in art, and I was an exhibiting artist for most of my life, here in Columbus. Housing was cheap enough to buy in the 1980s & 90s, and I bought my house in 1993, in The Old North, which used be called the "north campus",...until some of the other history buffs, in my area decided we needed to discover our "roots". Apparently "The Old North", was the name of the area, in the early 1800s. Clintonville didn't exist yet,....north of Arcadia Street was just wilderness, farms & fields,....and old Indian trails. High Street was just mud road,..or in some cases it was covered by logs, to keep the wagon wheels from sinking into the mud.
I remember catching the bus with my siblings and my mom to Woolworths to get our family photos taken. Every year in the basement. 😭😢
The short north has changed so much since my grandmother lived on Lincoln in the 70s and 80s.
I remember back around 1977-78, when I was a student at OSU, some friends and I used to enjoy going to the White Castle at Hudson & High around 2AM to watch what we called The Freak Show. There were some strange people to be seen, especially on the weekends.
the WC was at Arcadia and High,and it's being rebuilt in a mixed use development in same location.
I remember in 1978 around Arcadia there was that bowling alley. we got into a brawl with a bunch of guys who where running there mouths. I know the bowling alley burnt down but I can't remember what year.
@@hooversideadamI believe it burnt down in 1980.
I used to go there about 78 and 79 saw some crazy shit back in those days clintonville was a hillbilly neighborhood back then.
@@hooversideadam I grew up in Clintonville,it wasn't a hillbilly neighborhood.Maybe youre thinking of the old north side around hudson st where blue danube was,or the short north.
My favorite store Lazarus it's gone now!
More younger kids need to watch. Real history
I would like to do a photo shoot of it now. There are still amazing people still living on high street. My grandfather used to live on 5th and high. Totally different now but people are people.
I came here to say the same thing. Times change, but High St is still an amazing place.
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My mom, little brother, and I lived about a block from High Street in the early 60's. Never thought we were poor at the time because kids could still play on the streets and alleys and crime was tiny compared to today. I used to make money by collecting pop bottles under the newspaper shacks (small wooden shacks built on stilts at the base) where the newspaper boys would get their papers and turn in their subscription money. Used my wagon to carry the bottles to High Street to cash them in at the local IGA grocery store (Independent Grocery Association). Keep me in comic books and candy bars very comfortably.
I Grew up on Hudson and high .and in72 I was 12 and was All over high st The Short North well I went to prison in 82 until 2001 and was completely shocked to see what happened to Columbus
19 yrs? Who did you kill?
I grew up on the west side of columbus, spent lots of time downtown as a kid going to movies leveque tower etc. I worked at a printing company 1 block west of high street across from Union Station. I used to see a few hobos down there drinking wine waiting for the next ride and I was all up and down High street from Campus to Clintonville, my half brothers lived off Como avenue, I just looked and saw a house for sale for 415,000 dollars ,
In 1973 you could have bought a whole block of houses for that much up there. There was no 1000 homeless old people living in the streets back then, that's crazy. There were probably 50 or 100 hippies living in the alleys and doorways down by campus but they didn't stay long. As the guy said , the police enjoyed practicing their night stick moves, on anybody that couldn't complain. I remembered both those guys, The guy in the dark outfit I always saw down by great southern shopping center, I'm pretty sure he lived down there somewhere. and there was a guy with no legs that was downtown all the time ,on a wooden paper cart from a printing press. He wore rags on his hands to propel himself,. I "m pretty sure I knew his name back then but can't get it now.
I remember that guy too. Always a smile and kind word if you spoke to him. I was a teenager, coming downtown after school st Central High across the river
This is stellar!
It’s crazy how different North high street all the way up to worthington look now.
Thanks for sharing..
We moved to E 12th Ave just off High St in 1970, then a few years later, moved up to Northwood Ave by High St, then Oakland Ave, almost on top of Pearl Alley. I spent a lot of my childhood riding the #2 Bus and walking up and down the OSU Campus Area. I saw Star Wars at the theater next to the McDonalds at 16th and High. So much of my old neighborhood gone with the Gateway Center and all the demolition between 14th and 18th.
the #2 bus... memories
Anyone remember the Christmas exhibit with a Santa clause in the basement of Lazaraus?
I remember Santaland on the 6th floor along with toys and stuff.
@@lclark7950 my brain remembers the basement but I was a kid so maybe it was on the 6th floor, I don’t know. My mom worked there from like 80-89 and I used to get to go kick it with Santa.
@@hereticlife2546 Santaland was definitely on the 6th floor. But I also have some vague memories of something Christmasy in the basement in the '80s. I also remember being fascinated by the sub basement, a basement under a basement? Little kid's mind blown!
I'm from upstate Ny and I enjoyed this
I am in Columbus Ohio
same here
- I watched as they tore the Union Station down. It was around midnight, and they were still working. A few steps across the bridge was the short north area, it was a dump. There was a storefront church there that I sometimes attended. Things were changing.
Sweet couple at the end. I miss the farms out here between Worthington and Delaware.
I'm still in Sunbury, grew up on Millers farm. Grandma said when your my age Westerville and Sunbury will be touching. As I watch the old town swell. Im realizing she is correct.
@@BNOOutdoors . That sounds lovely. I grew up until college age in Worthington. In the 80's I moved to Arcadia, CA. To pursue my love for riding racehorses. Five years ago I moved back to Ohio and live in Dublin now. My how the population and homes had grown out here.
@@BNOOutdoors . I checked out your BNO channel. I find it very nice. I have seen mink crossing Sawmill Road before. There are so many waterways to snare them.
My grandma was born in ‘39, she grew up in the 40s and 50s on Michigan ave… I love seeing all of the old photos… Everything has changed so much. Her high school is part of the “new” Cosi which I also think is so neat ❤️
@@fibonacho that’s so funny you say this! My dad gave me the dvd to watch 🤣💙 I will have to have her over to watch it!
I have 2 great photos taken in the 70s on high st that I found at an antique store in the short north (I don’t think it’s even open anymore). They’re hanging on my wall and I love them. I wonder if they were taken by this man.
I moved here about 20 years ago now.. and when i moved here it was clean, beautiful and open.. it wasn't too crowded and had enough energy that it was a nice place to settle.. but.. it has gotten explosive with people and it's lost what i saw it as.. sadly
I lived a block from High st on Adams ave. near Blake when this pic at 6:51 was taken.
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North High Drive-In! Used to sneak in with buddies in the trunk all the time! Lotsa beer and great times!
That's my mom and aunt's at 4:20
I just bought a house here in Columbus and I'm eternally grateful that they got rid of all the bums from the short north. Keep that up and I'm gonna get rich with this house.
Love it. I live in the north end near 5th when I was a toddler. Then we move to the west side on Sullivant Ave.
Grew up west side,we called it the Bottoms
I actually remember that fellow in the wheelchair, and saw him many times coming into downtown from the North.
There were big changes in the 1970's, accelerated by the building of the Nationwide Building and complex, and the vast amount of real estate that had taken up. The old Moneypenny building and Union Station were lost to it. Columbus has a nice, modern downtown now. Some old buildings were saved, like the Southern Hotel and the Ohio Theatre. But, of course, the mom and pop street culture is gone.
My two brother and I used to get free ice cream and stuff at Jerry Gordens 1975-1978
The world certainly looked like and was a different place then.
It looked better honestly
Mrs. Uhas was one of my HS teachers. :)
I was 7 years old that year. Lived in the short north. Average large family. A few of the children's photos I recognized. Was a very diverse area. Grew up off west first ave. Near Dennison and hunter.
Ahhh ! The Good Old Day's. Sad They're Gone. I hate the modern-day's.
Hartman Farms at 1:16 I remember those building well.
I wish I was born back in these days to see it 💯💯🗣️
My only regret is not finding this sooner
Interesting, at 51 seconds, the "N. HIGH" sign - we used the exact same street signs in Toronto marking the street names at intersections after retiring the old British style wall mountred signs placed on the the corners of the houses at intrersections.
Beautiful story and yes I remember most of the "High Street" people. The stores and such.We used to catch the bus downtown and spend the day. Memories of my youth,long gone but not forgotten.My first "Movie" date.Carlisa Johnson,Abe Sanders and Debbie Anderson and Me.I think,Hmmm it's foggy.
I love Columbus.. I remember high street as a kid the arcade and gyro place was a gem
That arcade was located on 10th ave. and N. High Street. "BW3's" buffalo wings was downstairs and upstairs was "Apollo's"gyros and "The Greek Villiage." The arcade was called: "The Silver Ball" and next door was a Subway sandwich shop!
Across the street on the corner of 10th ave. across the street from the Ohio State Law School building, there was a carryout that closed. In1989 it was converted into a "Snap's" hamburger restaurant. Then it was converted into a gay hangout/restaurant called the "Chilly Company.
I went back to Columbus, Ohio 10 years ago.
I went down N.High street in that same area. I didn't recognize any of it!! Everything from 30 years ago was torn down, courtesy of greedy real estate developers and of course the mighty Ohio State University trustees and their money!!!
R.I.P. N.High Street 1970- 2009
@@cpman1987 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 your right ... all over the city, everything looks super different
well well well,... while surfing the youtube i stumbled upon this video (for i was trying to remember that time...(i was a senior in college at OSU.) and at 4.49 minute that is a woman i knew, and she did not live on or around High St. If this picture was taken in 1973 it appears that perhaps she was in front of the old Amtrack train station. Regardless , she was returning from downtown shopping and perhaps attempting a bus transfer in attempt to return home, stumbled or tripped. She lived just outside of Upper Arlington, in Columbus,Ohio. She did not drive ,enjoyed shopping downtown, patronized the North Markets and enjoyed using public transportation.Numerous bus drivers also enjoyed having her ridership. I do not see how she was a force that changed High Street. I will say however that the photographer did happen to capture her at a most serendipitous moment. signed, Bob
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On August 1973 I was born in Grant Hospital.
Always wondered what Columbus was like then.
My mom and dad moved down around Logan and Lancaster shortly after that and then in 1980 they split up and I ended up going to Florida with my dad and I grew up down there and it was only until 2005 that I got to come back up here to my home state and since that time I've been getting to see what Columbus is like but I would imagine that it was much more peaceful and better place in the 70s
Grandparents lived off High in Worthington. Have spent many a nights at the Ruckmoore aka Fuckmoore.
Mrs Uhas was my favorite teacher at Indianola Jr. High school
I know the 90’s is more recent, but does anyone remember Slow Bear? The Native American that always hung out on High Street by what used to be Insomnia Coffee (just north of the UDF on 13th).
He was an alcoholic and passed away. I wish I knew more about his life. He died many years ago.
@@JennRighter I forgot about him. He's probably been dead for close to twenty years at this point. There were plenty of other characters but not as well known as people like Don B or HIOTW, like the little black dude in drag at 12th and High, or the guy up on North Campus who always carried the mysterious brown paper sack.
Mrs. Uhauls ...Sour hour......i miss my old neighborhood......everyone was different that's what made it special.....
This is very interesting. Of course there was lots of diversity, with students coming from all over the world to study at OSU. Around 1970 my friend and I were in junior high school; on some Saturdays we would bicycle to High Street and frequent the little shops near the campus. In the evening there was a pizza truck. Years later I dated a young man working his way through OSU; he lived in the Greystone Court Apartments when we met; later he lived on the other end of High Street renting a house with three other young men; we've been married almost 39 years now. I think you might enjoy reading Thomas Sowell's THE QUEST FOR COSMIC JUSTICE, because he touches on the problems of economics and housing.
I don't care what anyone says.
.this is my.home ..my Columbus....I miss you1973😭😭😢😢😢😢😢💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
"People just walk up and down High Street to watch people walking up and down High Street"
2020 and they still walk up and down High to people watch lol.
For a lot of these pictures, I tried to use Google Maps to see what still existed, and the only thing I'm certain of is the picture of the Eagles building...it is still there as is the building just to the north of it. Pretty much everything else is long gone. I was born in '74, so this is representative enough as to what it would have been like when I was born.,
Goody Boy was still there in 2014 when I moved from Ohio to Texas.
7:42 is that Arlo Guthrie? I saw his name on a sign at 5:41 in the video so maybe he's just on my mind but that sure looks like some old pictures I've seen of him.
I'm from Ohio Columbus SHORT NORTH it Nuffn like High St #Noplace I love my neighborsHOOD
Born and raised in the south end of Columbus. I lived on Deshler ave. 3 houses right in front of south high school. I was born in 1975. Now the hospital and heyl ave and barrett's middle are gone. Barrett is apartments now.
Goody Boy. Amazing.
0:53 that sign looks like what turned into Tee Jay's restaurant at N High St and Morse Rd. I think it's now a Chick-Fil-A. America is really turning for the worst.
This is cool
Interesting. I looked and Jones Upholstery building at 6:06 is still standing. According to Google Maps in 2019, this is a small record store. I would love to see the full collection of pictures taken.
My Grandma lived on Kelso near High. Saw Olentangy lanes there at 5:26 I always went there and to the White Castle south of there every visit. I'm from Cleveland so talking about crime there in Columbus? We had major ALL-STAR crime in Cleveland there is no comparison then or now...
Common people were kind friendly and mannerly to each other.
That is my sister's and my self in front of crysstys market.
The year I was born !💖
Is there any record of cycling ever being a common mode of transport in the city? (prior to the mass adoption of cars)
I was 17 driving around town back then going to Walnut Ridge High
How do I get into contact with these historians of our Columbus, Ohio as my Great Grandfather owed the K and L on High St. it is the Garden now but would truly love to speak with these people please
They owned two houses on Starr Ave. very close to their bar on High and 5th was neighborhood bar that changed with the disco era and my Great Grandfather bought the first of big screen TV for sports events
My Great Grandfather and Grandpa both were engineers at National Electrical Coil before purchasing space for the K and L
The year I started Driving. .I 270 just completed. .Thanks. ..Yeah Ohio. .
Would love to find a video of 270 construction
I love my city!!!
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Bro at 2:25 cracking me the fuck up hahahha
It’s not better now.
They’ve completely ruined this city. They’ve stripped it all of its character and vibe. It’s so boring and ordinary and dull these days.
At 07:52 is a man with hauntingly beautiful eyes.
So at 2:26 the man is just bragging about police brutality like it’s a good thing 🤦🏾♂️
Pretty much a sign of the times he lived in, sadly. I was 11 and living in Groveport in 1973, and despite what we all bore witness to in the 60s-early 70s, many still considered it a joke.
EXACTLY 🤫😔😔
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my gpas been here since 1936
I was a 9 year old living in Clintonville-on W. Pacemont Rd, btw Weber and E.N. Broadway. We had a drugstore with a soda fountain at the top of W. Pacemont and High, we had a grocery store (Cyro’s) and a bakery attached to it on the north. We had a gas/service station at Pacemont and High (Marathon) and the man who ran it (Bernie) would let me take his tools down to my house near the end of the street, so I could fix my bikes -and later my cars! We had a one-screen theater and a tiny hamburger “shack” that was literally the size of a large storage shed, and the Kowloon Chinese restaurant where I first tasted what would become an all-time favorite food. I bowled in the kid’s league at the Olentangy Village bowling alley-now a Giant Eagle grocery store. There was a Whistle Stop Pop Shop, the Longview BarberShop, heck, we basically had everything we needed within five blocks of my house! Simpler times for sure. 🫡❤️
Isn't this change called gentrification? Houston Texas was founded in 1837. It had a population of 1,200,000 in 1970. Today it's more than 2.4 million, and many streets look much different than they did 40+ years ago.
Pushed all of the Riff Raff into the Linden and Northland Area
Why all B&W, this was 1973, not 1933. Not many snapshots were taken in B&W.
O yeah...that dude with the lunch box ...singing up n down the street......
05:10 I wonder what this guys story was? WW1? WW2? Or just some horrible accident?
I was born in 1950 and went to North High School which was about a 2 minute walk from the Little Art Theater seen in the background at the 6:46 mark. I saw my first porn flick in that theater in 1968, The Lustful Turk. The theater is gone now.
Randall Anderson I went to OSU (Photo & Cinema) from 1975-1978. I worked at the Little Art as a projectionist to put myself through school. Did all my homework there.
@@erichoffhines A "Little Art moment"... Back in the day the porn flicks were "soft porn". That meant that you saw women's breasts but pretty much nothing else. There was certainly no penetration to be seen. One time I went with a couple of pals and the theater was about half full. On screen some guy was working on a woman's breasts with a combination of mouth/hand action. That scene went on for about 10 minutes and with it being softcore porn, there was no advancement to other body areas or hotter pornographic activities. We, and seemingly everyone in the theater, eventually became bored. Finally my friend became so annoyed with this never-ending scene that he shouted out "For God's sake, if she had 3, we'd be here all night!". The entire theater audience broke out laughing.
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Columbus is set up so weird imo. Because how fast you go fro city to country is like 2 minutes. My apt complex is like across the stret from a whole ass cornfield.
The names of the Photographers please?
The photographers are Alfred Clarke, Carol Hibbs Kight, Darrell Muething, Clayton K. Lowe, and Julius Foris, Jr.
Thanks for the names of the photographers!! My father was a photographer with the Columbus Dispatch!!!! His work was very similar due to shooting during same era !
That farm near st Ann's the abandoned one with the 4 wheeler in the shed is still sitting there 😕😕😕😕
Anyone else recall 2 guys near Broad and High in the early 80's? One would cluck like a chicken and the other would pretend to shoot passers by with an imaginary bow and arrow. They were around for yrs.
Les Brown, motivational speaker and former Ohio Congressman, tells the story of the man who clucked like a chicken. I can't remember the details but his entire family was killed in a house fire and he survived. The house was so deep with fire that he could not get in to save his family. As a self-punishment, he always considered himself a chicken and began to cluck for not trying to get into the house. It was a tragic story but so strange to know that you remember him. I went to OSU from 88-95 and know many stories about High Street ... Just thought you might find this story interesting and saddening.
@@shawnschwaner8583 Thanks for the reply. Having some experience working with psych patients, I always assumed he just had some problem along those lines. What a sad, sad story for him. Hopefully he at some point was able to forgive himself and move on.
8:29 😂