Infuriating Chapter.. - Mushoku Tensei Novel Analysis! (Vol20,Ch7-8)

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  • @kenushx
    @kenushx 2 місяці тому +42

    lmao i knew that thumbnail would be his reaction

  • @Nakama4Forever
    @Nakama4Forever 2 місяці тому +30

    This is my favorite story arc. Can't wait for you to experience it too ❤️

    • @austinmonroe511
      @austinmonroe511 2 місяці тому +4

      Someone who knows how this arc ends. Just. Can’t wait for how he feels to the ending

  • @kristoffer2250
    @kristoffer2250 2 місяці тому +15

    I fucking love Rifujin but this arc genuinely made me love even even more. What masterful character writing and plotting

  • @ericbunker6242
    @ericbunker6242 2 місяці тому +3

    Even Orsted learned NEVER MUCK WITH RUDY'S FAMILY!

  • @th3ch33t
    @th3ch33t 2 місяці тому +20

    Rudeus seems pretty humble, considering he's probably in the top 10 most powerful beings of that world.

    • @deathdoor
      @deathdoor Місяць тому

      I think it's because all the power and strength he acquired was only to protect himself, scared of others killing him. He didn't seek any of that power and strength for the sake of it or to make a name for himself.

  • @DeviiBT
    @DeviiBT 2 місяці тому +12

    1:14:00 Had chills when Rudy started cussing, like Andrew said he's always calm or tries to stay calm. Plays devils advocate a lot to look from the opposite perspective. Lots of times people shit on him or someone he cares about but it's mostly annoyance. At this point in the story I think there are like 4 or 5 moments in total of Rudy being genuinely pissed on the verge of wanting to hurt someone or kill. 1st Oldeus (despite being another timeline) flaming part of a kingdom, 2nd when he talks to the man god about Roxy dying and wanting to punch him so bad, 3rd when Orsted threatened to kidnap his children he had true murderous intent instead of being told to try and kill him., and now his grandma's horrible intentions with his mother.

    • @George_enjoy
      @George_enjoy 2 місяці тому +2

      Also when the Roxy figurine was broken by Linia and Pursena, Rudeus was very angry considering his unstable mental state at the time.

    • @deathdoor
      @deathdoor Місяць тому

      But took him an extreme situation like this for him to finally react.

  • @raviolrj8574
    @raviolrj8574 2 місяці тому +7

    This arc is literally one of the reasons why Mushoku is a special novel.

  • @makere-3
    @makere-3 2 місяці тому +9

    Such a satisfying MM, I'm gonna rewatch this.

  • @damiancrowley569
    @damiancrowley569 2 місяці тому +4

    The "sick 'em onee-chan" had me almost in tears holy crap

  • @rezonpokemon3854
    @rezonpokemon3854 2 місяці тому +13

    One thing I love about this series is Rudeus' intrusive thought's just pushing in the front.
    It definitely makes it more entertaining.
    And we can all relate to that one voice in the back of our heads that we push to the back. Rudeus' intrusive thoughts are at the forefront, and I love it.

  • @ericbunker6242
    @ericbunker6242 2 місяці тому +12

    Asura is depraved and venal but open about it. Millis is a cake with white frosting outside while inside it is rotten and home to maggots, those who are hypocritics and power hungry.

  • @thelightburns2852
    @thelightburns2852 2 місяці тому +7

    Man I forgot how infuriating this scene was. I have a headache now.

    • @chiblast100x
      @chiblast100x 2 місяці тому

      I feel that. I was tempted to skip this week, but...

    • @krishrox1015
      @krishrox1015 2 місяці тому

      i cried soo many times this arc, that ending man...

  • @InfamyOrDeath-__-
    @InfamyOrDeath-__- 2 місяці тому +5

    3 more days and I get vol 20 & 21, can’t wait till I’m caught up to you.

  • @AllJelly
    @AllJelly 2 місяці тому +4

    This is my favorite arc by far. Great you've finally reached it. Enjoy.

  • @adzhadow
    @adzhadow 2 місяці тому +4

    I knew this chapter was gonna be a gut punch, we are set for a hell of ride this tome

  • @XSaebaYRyoZ
    @XSaebaYRyoZ 2 місяці тому +5

    Ah yes, that's how I reacted at first too. And it makes it all the more painful later.

  • @lucasvanwijngaarden670
    @lucasvanwijngaarden670 2 місяці тому +9

    28:30 I think Rudy's mind goes towards sex in no small part because of the comment Aisha made right beforehand.

  • @nathanielstacy4488
    @nathanielstacy4488 2 місяці тому +3

    1) Zenith is a widow 2) Grandma mentioned a few divorces so it seems the faith she hold is single manager (at a time) focused but not actually adverse to polygamy & Half siblings.

  • @DrunkWIZZARD
    @DrunkWIZZARD 2 місяці тому +1

    Strongest language I’ve ever heard you use and I fully support

  • @siddharthgaur2205
    @siddharthgaur2205 2 місяці тому +6

    Claire is few of the people that made Rudeus rage.

  • @meganmartin3373
    @meganmartin3373 2 місяці тому +1

    Not gonna lie, when Geese said to remember what Paul told Rudy in that labyrinth, my first thought was the freaking "I have two swords now" speech. Thanks a lot, anime!

  • @Soundwave119
    @Soundwave119 2 місяці тому +2

    Whoot, another Mushoku Monday is coming! Thank you Otaku Spirit for making these Awesome videos 😊. It will be interesting to see Rudy's first interaction with his grandmother. It will also be interesting seeing a pov (hopefully) Cliff's reunion with his grandfather the Pope. 😊 This is the 1st time I have seen 1 of these videos with the picture of Zenith on it.
    It's going funny when Pope and Claire realize their related now through there grandchildren.

    • @ericbunker6242
      @ericbunker6242 2 місяці тому +2

      I don't think we see that. Elinalise isn't there. It'll be a while before Cliff gets settled into the power structure of the church well enough to bring her there openly. And then would Cliff really bring that up? Oh, Grandfather, remember that bothersome mage I brought with me that one time? Would you believe he's married to my wife's granddaughter? So if you squint at it right you're kin in law to the Latria house!

    • @Soundwave119
      @Soundwave119 2 місяці тому +1

      @ericbunker6242 I do think it's going to happen eventually, not necessarily this book but 1 or 2 books down the line. I'm not sure how the Pope thinks about linages but noble people like to pay attention to the little details in bloodlines.
      Especially considering I think Claire was testing Rudy's character to see if he was good enough to care for Zeinth and Norn. 🤔 If so Claire will care about how Rudy's 1st wife is a granddaughter of Cliff Grimore's wife. So likely the next Pope's children are blood related to her.

    • @ericbunker6242
      @ericbunker6242 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Soundwave119 read the LNs and you will know what does and doesn't occur. And working down that convoluted family tree! "Far away" in terms of consanguinity. Doubt it would count outside the Hapsburgs.

  • @sast5454
    @sast5454 2 місяці тому +9

    Claire is an amazing character btw

  • @Howie-Wowie
    @Howie-Wowie 2 місяці тому +2

    I do enjoy these videos but a nitpick I have is that you rant on for a long time like 15+ minutes of having a situation explained over and over it’s like we got it after the first 10. Other than that love the videos, love when you relate your experiences to the story and elaborate on that it makes me heart warm

  • @LordMyriddin
    @LordMyriddin 2 місяці тому +2

    Even with all the (inevitable, obviously) explanations...I still think Claire is irredeemable. Her example alone, even above the good examples of Cliff and Norn, makes me despise the "Millis" faith.

    • @MiseRaen
      @MiseRaen 2 місяці тому +2

      Unlike Rudeus, she it pretty set in her ways so I agree that she is irredeemable.

  • @l30nard03
    @l30nard03 2 місяці тому +1

    I can't wait for vol 21 my personal favorite 👌🏽

  • @catman3321
    @catman3321 2 місяці тому

    happy mushoku monday man wish I could watch it live but its mid night for me

  • @kusha0247
    @kusha0247 2 місяці тому +1

    That last f”meow” Claire 😂😂

  • @Razor4884
    @Razor4884 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the stream, Andrew Tranquility Otaku Spirit.

  • @doodlegame8704
    @doodlegame8704 2 місяці тому

    Finally caught up lol. binged 9 VOLs in 2 weeks lol.

  • @MiseRaen
    @MiseRaen 2 місяці тому

    I'm pretty sure that Claire made an enemy of Rudeus for life and even though they might 'reconcile' in the future, he will forever remember how declared how she would treat Zenith then and there.

  • @Twiska
    @Twiska 2 місяці тому +1

    I think Claire is only focused on Milis politics as a noble lady.

  • @Edwoonie
    @Edwoonie 2 місяці тому

    its crazy its almost over i want so much more story

  • @metatempolol7743
    @metatempolol7743 2 місяці тому +2

    Millis arc everyone! Such a great arc when you think about it!

  • @DrunkWIZZARD
    @DrunkWIZZARD 2 місяці тому +1

    God this interaction pissed me right the fuck off.. I’m into Vol 22 just going back..Rudy good boy..

  • @deathdoor
    @deathdoor Місяць тому

    I can bet we will see those gauntlets with the stones of absorption Tallhand had to sell appear again, in an inconvenient time.
    Now, I'm a bit frustrated.
    Didn't Rufujin forced Rudeus to be a bit "slower" than he should about this whole situation with Claire? He was caught by surprise about everything. She should had asked Norn, Aisha and Lilia for more information. He should had thought more about what Claired wanted with her daughter and granddaughters. He should had investigated and be more well information about the factions and politics in Millishion. having neglected one of those things would be just a mistake, but neglecting everything?
    He also doesn't seem to realize the Elephant in the Room.
    His whole business about recruiting allies to flight against Laplace puts him in conflict with the Papalists and makes the Cardinalists his natural allies. His presence in the city to build a new Ruquad's Branch is inconvenient for Cliff, isn't it?
    1:06:00 Is good that Rudeus "gives her the benefit of the doubt", but I fell he has a habit of doing this only with people and during moments they don't deserve, while he assumes the worst from people during moments he shouldn't.

  • @JoshuaMattingly
    @JoshuaMattingly 2 місяці тому +1

    Happy Mushoku Monday.

  • @JamesChristie88
    @JamesChristie88 2 місяці тому

    Reacted the same as me. Can't wait till you finish this book.

  • @onetickhaole1109
    @onetickhaole1109 2 місяці тому

    1:35:19 I’ve just recently re watched season 1 of Mushoku tensei and there is a scene where Phillip mentions the Greyrats have some kind of ability passed down. Not sure if it’s their insane libido 🤷🏻‍♂️ but it could be something there

  • @Untolddead
    @Untolddead 2 місяці тому

    I hope Ascendance of a bookworm is still on the agenda. I know it's a long way off but I still remember Otaku Spirit saying he'd do it after Mushoku.

  • @Khameo_
    @Khameo_ 2 місяці тому

    😭i wish i wasn't an anime only and could watch this, i'll be back next season 💔😔

  • @wafflewafflegod
    @wafflewafflegod 2 місяці тому

    Surprised he didn’t mention his connection to Perugious at the same time he mentioned Princess Ariel and Orsted

  • @krishrox1015
    @krishrox1015 2 місяці тому

    oh the conclusion to this arc is going to hurt you

  • @cybersoul2809
    @cybersoul2809 2 місяці тому +3

    Glad we finally got to this chapter. All that Aisha talk was getting really annoying

  • @OrstedCultist
    @OrstedCultist 2 місяці тому +5

  • @Zero-no5vf
    @Zero-no5vf 2 місяці тому +1

    Aboult Rudeus bringing that stuff aboult Aisha, ins't because she constantly brings it to him how much she likes her brother. I dont think that his past life helps at all with his horny mind.

  • @buckaroobonsi555
    @buckaroobonsi555 2 місяці тому

    Amazing what happens when you hire people based on identity and not on merit! The ability to read, write and spell in the target language is kindof important in publishing! Punctuation also kind of important that is my weakness! The difference is I amnot working at a publishing house!

  • @doodlegame8704
    @doodlegame8704 2 місяці тому

    This is gonna be wild after you get the full context lol

  • @lucasvanwijngaarden670
    @lucasvanwijngaarden670 2 місяці тому +1

    I still really dislike the extra chapter that hints at Geese being an apostle. Reading this in the webnovel I didn't question Geese being in Millishion for a second.

    • @cybersoul2809
      @cybersoul2809 2 місяці тому +2

      Eeh... It was really obvious tho.
      I knew he was an apostle since the end of Labyrinth arc

    • @lucasvanwijngaarden670
      @lucasvanwijngaarden670 2 місяці тому +2

      @@cybersoul2809 For me it was only obvious in retrospect. I just assumed he got false information about Zenith or something.
      And I'm willing to suspend disbelief in a story, so I didn't think much of him randomly popping up at this point in the story.

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 2 місяці тому

      @@cybersoul2809it would’ve been better if we are kept in the dark for longer

  • @FrankBryant-xo3dh
    @FrankBryant-xo3dh 2 місяці тому

    I agree there’s some messed up people in the world parents don’t even care if their daughters get raped

  • @tonled6960
    @tonled6960 2 місяці тому

    damn....i always miss the live recording....i was 2hours late 2day....

  • @Sagenarf6227
    @Sagenarf6227 2 місяці тому

    i saw this coming this part irritated me to no end

  • @nikurasu3953
    @nikurasu3953 2 місяці тому +1

    Can't wait for something...

  • @deathdoor
    @deathdoor Місяць тому

    Aisha is really the part that makes me the most sad about this story.
    But I have to give it a praise while I'm criticizing, because I have to recognize, at least Rifujin is consistent in how Rudeus fails Aisha.
    The scene with the two lying together to sleep and talking, he asks her about going with them to see Claire, because his is something that would benefit and please him. He isn't really thinking about Aisha, what she feels, what she wants. If he truly care that was the moment to remember that she was an adult already that could make her own decisions and didn't needed to obey Lilia's command. What was the point of those previous chapter about her birth day and conflict about adulthood? Nothing changed. That present he gave her makes total sense, he is unable to think and do anything for her.

    • @deathitself6985
      @deathitself6985 Місяць тому

      Aisha has been messed up by Lilia from the start and tbh Lilia was messed up with her own trauma
      While Rudeus isnt helping too much he atleast made things better at first with how he showed Aisha that she was his sister and that she was allowed to do things like buy stuff for herself
      Idk what would have been the best decision when Aisha before they started living together was dead set on being his maid should he have pushed her away or force her to school regardless of how she feels about him doing so

    • @deathdoor
      @deathdoor Місяць тому

      @@deathitself6985 He is just being convenient with himself, convincing himself that he isn't like that (Lilia). But in the end all he does is take advantage of Aisha's dedication, he always counts on her dedication to help him.
      He makes mental speeches about how much he dislikes that, he doesn't wanted it and them he goes to ask something with that hypocrite attitude and mindset "I hate to ask you this but".
      I really don't like this greyRATO.

    • @deathitself6985
      @deathitself6985 Місяць тому

      @@deathdoor I can see where you are coming from but i cant agree completely like while i think he does so with the mercenary stuff i want to ask what should Rudeus have done or do when aisha came to his house with her mind completely set on being his maid?
      Rudeus definitely treated Aisha better than Lilia who constantly reminded her about the "hierarchy" to the point where Rudeus had to assure her that he sees her as his sister.
      Whats the solution to this situation should he simply push her away even if she insists on wanting to be his maid or do the work?
      If Aisha told Rudeus im done i dont want to work i dont doubt that he would allow her to quit what this whole thing started from was keeping watch over Linia who has established herself.
      Equating Rudeus to Lilia is a bit much in my opinion

    • @deathitself6985
      @deathitself6985 Місяць тому

      @@deathdoor I also dont think Rudeus can even be judged by normal standards when it comes to alot of stuff people usually dont have a god that sees the future and manipulates people trying to murder them

    • @deathdoor
      @deathdoor Місяць тому

      @@deathitself6985 First of all lets agree about something first.
      Everyone can see the good and bad in all characters, things that everyone will agree, but after that the opinions will differ. Some will have mostly negative and some mostly positive opinions about the characters. I'm one the "mostly negative" side about Rudeus.
      What he could had done differently? Is very simple, refuse her as his maid.
      See why I criticized him the way I did? "He doesn't like but...", "he doesn't want it but...", "he wish he could do something but doesn't..."
      Let her HELP with the house, as any resident would do, but doesn't make it her JOB.
      Is that simple, no matter what he says or thinks, his actions are talking louder. He allows her to be her maid, expects her to work as a maid, doesn't try to get her out of her maid outfit. Counts on her do to things for him. All he does is reinforce this psychological gripe on her. There are even times when he forces her to do things he doesn't want to do, like I said exploiting his "curse".
      Rudeus is worse than Lillia.

  • @krishrox1015
    @krishrox1015 2 місяці тому

    rifujin joking about rudeus x aisha happens way to mush for it to be a random joke

    • @krishrox1015
      @krishrox1015 2 місяці тому

      those who have read vol 24 know...

  • @john80944
    @john80944 2 місяці тому

    I think Mushoku Tensei isn't a story about absolute human trash to be better. It's about those who LOOKS LIKE human trash can be good.
    Claire was obnoxious, like Rudy was an absolute creep. They both can be redeemed, but the process is still very comfortable.
    And at the time I read this section, I just dropped MT for a couple of days so that I have the mental space to read it.

  • @johnasbury4997
    @johnasbury4997 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm not much on cussing but you were cursing for all of us . Great job❤

  • @DrunkWIZZARD
    @DrunkWIZZARD 2 місяці тому

    This whole thing with Claire is exactly why I’ve distanced myself from my family. Not the forced marriage crap but how they shoved themselves in my life..

  • @BrounBoi
    @BrounBoi 2 місяці тому

    THE THUMBNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL

  • @MarkTazo99
    @MarkTazo99 2 місяці тому +2

    Why is this the thumbnail? I don't like this overt click bait

  • @krishrox1015
    @krishrox1015 2 місяці тому

    27:52 rudeus is not normal

  • @mikecaine185
    @mikecaine185 2 місяці тому

    Claire doesn't care what happened in Asura. As far as she is concerned Millis is the only truly civilized country and has no interest in the greater world. Her only attention is on Millis politics and her family's status within. She is a strict and harsh person to others but more so upon herself. She cares deeply about her daughter as well as both Norn and Aisha but doesn't show it how you would. Instead she shows it with her strictness and trying to instill proper behavior by them based upon their status as that is the world she knows. I realize that you don't agree that is how you show love but that is how she does.
    Also, you are projecting your issues on Aisha. She is an anime trope. That is, she likes wearing the maid outfit and is a flirt. She never was actually interested in Rudius and in fact felt resentment towards the Rudius until she and her mom were saved by him in Sharon. For a brief time she had a crush on him but that was over shortly after she arrived in Sharia. She just enjoyed flirting with him and getting him flustered. Reread her previous interactions with that in mind as a possibility and it is quite obvious.

    • @deathitself6985
      @deathitself6985 2 місяці тому

      Why spoil Claire stuff when its revealed later on?

  • @ShiNijuuAKL
    @ShiNijuuAKL 2 місяці тому

    Andrew will fucking die on volume 21

  • @NfNcTHUMPER
    @NfNcTHUMPER 2 місяці тому

    Clair so miss understood top 10 characters

  • @Oscardaninja
    @Oscardaninja 2 місяці тому +2

    I cant wait till i see amdrews reaction to what her real motives are

  • @ukavac1
    @ukavac1 2 місяці тому

    geese mwp

  • @いあん
    @いあん 2 місяці тому

    It seems like the thumbnail illustration of Zenith is AI generated.

    • @Twiska
      @Twiska 2 місяці тому

      I think it's just photoshopped. Looks like her face placed on some other bikini babe.

    • @いあん
      @いあん 2 місяці тому

      @@Twiska I found the source image and ran it through some AI checks and it came back with 96% or more on others in favor of it being AI. Maybe Andrew just didn't think it was AI too.

    • @syo7806
      @syo7806 2 місяці тому

      ​@@いあんhe knows

    • @いあん
      @いあん 2 місяці тому +1

      @@syo7806 I see, that's unfortunate.

    • @kaelinvoker8331
      @kaelinvoker8331 2 місяці тому +1

      who cares?

  • @FrankBryant-xo3dh
    @FrankBryant-xo3dh 2 місяці тому

    Old ways, my ass

  • @TheJasonBigdaddy
    @TheJasonBigdaddy 2 місяці тому

    #ArsDidNothingWrong

  • @godsmacdiesel3491
    @godsmacdiesel3491 2 місяці тому

    😡😡…
    : 1:43:53

  • @VictorLiso
    @VictorLiso 2 місяці тому

    She'd get along well with Andrew Tate.

  • @danielmayorga9400
    @danielmayorga9400 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello

  • @heroxzxz6032
    @heroxzxz6032 2 місяці тому

    pls stop with the thirst trap thumnals

  • @SpiralKingJah
    @SpiralKingJah 2 місяці тому

    BRO PLEASE STOP SPOILING EVENTS LATER INTHE CHAPTER!

    • @SpiralKingJah
      @SpiralKingJah 2 місяці тому

      @Amhardonier that would be redundant, additionally I believe he does an excellent job pseudo-voice acting. Also smd

    • @syo7806
      @syo7806 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@SpiralKingJah ????? Watching MM is not even close to the level of reading it yourself

    • @SpiralKingJah
      @SpiralKingJah 2 місяці тому

      @@syo7806 subjective. You can smd too

  • @aratnorlol4586
    @aratnorlol4586 2 місяці тому

    Maaan your a bit of a crybaby, but takes balls to be this honest on a vid. keep it up otaku-chan

    • @deathitself6985
      @deathitself6985 Місяць тому

      I get it dude has experienced a parent losing their sense of self etc so its relatable

  • @RoronoaZorosHaki
    @RoronoaZorosHaki 2 місяці тому +1

    damn u can get 300 concurrent viewers by reading someones book and making no comments. this isnt live, its edited

    • @LudwigVaanArthans
      @LudwigVaanArthans 2 місяці тому +6

      Daaaaw, who hurt you?

    • @OrstedCultist
      @OrstedCultist 2 місяці тому +6

      Bro wtf are you on about

    • @lucasvanwijngaarden670
      @lucasvanwijngaarden670 2 місяці тому +7

      We know it's edited, it's not exactly a secret. And he comments on nearly every paragraph, at times even every sentence.

  • @RoronoaZorosHaki
    @RoronoaZorosHaki 2 місяці тому

    damn u can get 300 concurrent viewers by reading someones book and making no comments

    • @OrstedCultist
      @OrstedCultist 2 місяці тому +8

      Bro wtf are you on? Like were you watching the video???