I think the game is already probably the most fun it's ever been since the realm rework, and these updates seem to be addressing a lot of the biggest problems with the game, so I'm pretty pumped for it. Deca's certainly not perfect, but their agenda right now seems really well-targeted to make the game even better
Really hoping they keep the old mechanics on at least a few items and that's an obvious set for it since the entire thing is built around attacking while invisible. Don't have my hopes high after the confuse change where they annihilated almost every instance of it even where it was kinda the whole point of the obstacle (manor bats, mad lab obstacle course), but I'd love to be pleasantly surprised since I actually really enjoy the current rogue playstyle and will be sad if it disappears entirely.
Why didn't you just wait until tomorrow's testing session to actually give concrete info? You could've gotten better footage for everything and actual info on rogue rework, along with the other classes
Fury Flail is a thing because of the massive reach. In the realm rework, the regular enemies are all shotgun machines. So anything that doesn't have a bit of range is asking to get shotgunned. Some of them I wouldn't see how you'd be able to get close with like a T11 sword.
Rogue is my favorite class, I would have been happy with just adding a few atk and dex to the max stat cap. Lets give it a go and hope they listen to our feedback. Also, this might be a damage boost in groups but it's gonna tank solo damage.
Nice. Haven't played in a long time but good to know it would be even less fun to come back now. Getting insta popped by half the mobs in the betarealm and getting the best farming class nerfed and the only really viable sword as well.
Monocle is probably gonna either be reworked to give defensive stats when sneaking, or gain a bonus with lethal strike. Turncoat is gonna probably reworked too because with the rework to invisible, I could confidently say Turncoat will be made useless if nothing is changed.
Rogue is my most played class by far and also the only class i have fully exalted. I have had the sentiment for a while now that he needed a rework. Invis for solo is imo the most broken abilty, and i do mean broken, with it affecting different enemies in a bunch of different buggy ways along with not giving any real benefit in a group without some select ut's. Im just hoping that this rework is fun to play aswell as makes it less of a joke in a group.
Hi, i just wanted to say at least for me your voice comes only from left channel of my headphones ( not in other videos i checked). Otherwise great video! thank you!
I pretty much only play solo and rogue is by far my favorite class. Depending on what lethal does I think this is a great change. I really hope they rework monocle to still be really good for rogue being a solo player and not practicing o3 at all in PBE it was really hard for me to craft one. I mean the class has 50 attack if they don't change monocle I think it will be a pretty useless item but if they give rogue like 75 atk or lethal is insane ig it's still a net gain
Maybe a new crit mechanic on rogue would be cool. + maybe a base stat change if they rework invis. Tbh I am afraid of a rework to invisibility, I enjoy how it is :’)
I'm so torn on sorcerer's nerfs. It's so hard to balance him in comparison to Summoner and Wizard. I feel like he finally had his chance to shine when he's always felt like a slightly worse version of those two classes (especially Summoner. That class literally felt like Sorc 2.0 on release). Hopefully they level the playing field with those three, and don't just nerf sorc into the ground alongside buffing summoner so they effectively switch places.
I like all the changes except sorc nerf, I mean it does the exact same thing as wizard, and while wizard is harder and has higher skill ceiling it also has way higher potential dmg output, so I do not understand how can it be possible that sorc deserves nerf while wizard doesn't.
I think people hate change in this game, because it doesn’t come often enough. When it does it’s a pretty big change, unlike other games where they do minor buffs/nerfs often.
There’s no way lost halls was even close to hm shatters. You could always leach lost halls, you can never leach hm shatters. Even the boss fights in shatters fosters more group participation with how the phases are set up. That is definitely a hot old head take.
Not a big fan of the Rogue change. I liked how it played so differently to other classes. But I can also understand it's probably a pain to balance content around a class being permanently invisible. Also does this change only apply to Rogues invisibility? What about ghost rum or turncoat for example?
Not an exciting update for rogue in my opinion. Realm is very tough to come up with something new and exciting, so they just give some extra damage to a class. Very lame
Exactly it's all they've been adding ever since they took over this game more damage but in slightly different ways and then giving all classes the same buffs as each other like berserk
Rogue sounds pretty lame.. if you attack you get some kind of buff breaking invisibility. So, even with the extra damage if you are constantly attacking, it sounds like you would just suck more than any other class. Wait my rogue does like 70K damage to dumby.
They changed it so that you get the blade form when exiting invisibility + you also get lethal. Planewalker is also having its cooldown removed but the invisibility now only lasts 3 seconds and I think it also gets +15 speed stat on equip.
Don't forget sorc was considered one of the worst classes (only viable for fame training) until they buffed it excessively. Rogue may get the same treatment.
As someone who has played rotmg since 2012 i will say this: the game is way too difficult to play casually. I enjoy tinkering with builds. However whats the point of creating unique builds if im going to be scared of losing them in the 1st week of obtaining all the items. They keep making obtaining the items harder and harder... so what you're left with is a character who is too valuable to die with. either make the items more obtainable or rework the permadeath mechanic. Its a shame in a game with so much variety that you cant make proper builds. Kinda starting to understand cheaters tbh. Im fine with dying, i dont mind an honorable death. However i want to use the character for at least a month... farming a month and more for the item build just to die within days just iust isnt worth it.
Bro of course they rework rouge when I quit the game lol, been playing since 01 was in the realm so like I’m a day 1 player and my favourite class and my only exalted class is rouge I love that class so much it ain’t even funny but this is gunna destroy the class, rouge was never bout dps and should never be about dps, it’s a solo class and rushing class (an easy rushing class) but you know the class was never about dps, that’s why they added bloody so it changed you from a low dps but fast to a slow high dps, u could have the crystal cloak that dropped dps decoys, this has will end the rouge class as a solo player class, the whole point of going invisible and staying invisible is make it easy yo hit your low dps shots, it’s a dagger class that has a passive ability no buff is gunna make it a good dps class leave it as it is, this is why I quit the game, they don’t add new stuff and when they do its the same stuff and gets boring very fast and when they make changes they make some horrible changes to the game wow😤the only class I really enjoyed in the game and they took it away nice what devs 😂
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ok woops i think when i recorded my video i was leaning too much to the left hence why more audio on left ear xD woopsie doopsie, lesson learned ;D
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are you aware the audio is leaning to the left? literally unwatchable
u can edit it
wow I thought it was a problem on my side and changed the balance :D
I think the game is already probably the most fun it's ever been since the realm rework, and these updates seem to be addressing a lot of the biggest problems with the game, so I'm pretty pumped for it. Deca's certainly not perfect, but their agenda right now seems really well-targeted to make the game even better
mv best dungeon in the game i wish they make more
Rip Vampiric Rogue set... at least I had fun with it before the change.
Oh shit, you are right. I'm glad I didn't grind for it.
i lost it to confuse in wine cellar... the next day they deleted confuse. :)
Really hoping they keep the old mechanics on at least a few items and that's an obvious set for it since the entire thing is built around attacking while invisible. Don't have my hopes high after the confuse change where they annihilated almost every instance of it even where it was kinda the whole point of the obstacle (manor bats, mad lab obstacle course), but I'd love to be pleasantly surprised since I actually really enjoy the current rogue playstyle and will be sad if it disappears entirely.
Why didn't you just wait until tomorrow's testing session to actually give concrete info? You could've gotten better footage for everything and actual info on rogue rework, along with the other classes
Becasue the early bird... something.. blah blah idk.
he prolly will release a video reviewing it, + updated info etc
That’s like.. in a million seconds!!!
why not both?
and miss out on easy free content to make?
My left ear really enjoyed this video. Thanks man!
Fury Flail is a thing because of the massive reach. In the realm rework, the regular enemies are all shotgun machines. So anything that doesn't have a bit of range is asking to get shotgunned. Some of them I wouldn't see how you'd be able to get close with like a T11 sword.
Rogue is my favorite class, I would have been happy with just adding a few atk and dex to the max stat cap. Lets give it a go and hope they listen to our feedback. Also, this might be a damage boost in groups but it's gonna tank solo damage.
it kinda makes one worried that rogue will be bad in groups and solo or way to overpowered in terms of dps
could also make you do more damage solo aswell!
Nice. Haven't played in a long time but good to know it would be even less fun to come back now. Getting insta popped by half the mobs in the betarealm and getting the best farming class nerfed and the only really viable sword as well.
Monocle is probably gonna either be reworked to give defensive stats when sneaking, or gain a bonus with lethal strike. Turncoat is gonna probably reworked too because with the rework to invisible, I could confidently say Turncoat will be made useless if nothing is changed.
Rogue is my most played class by far and also the only class i have fully exalted. I have had the sentiment for a while now that he needed a rework. Invis for solo is imo the most broken abilty, and i do mean broken, with it affecting different enemies in a bunch of different buggy ways along with not giving any real benefit in a group without some select ut's. Im just hoping that this rework is fun to play aswell as makes it less of a joke in a group.
I never was super big on rogue but this change does make the class seem more interesting to me
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Why u only in my left ear seb?
a lot of peeps are telling me that but i hear both xD
@@sebchoof Not even headphones and I heard the video from only one part of the laptop :/
i also tought my headset is broken XD
@@sebchoof Your audio is probably in mono then
Hi, i just wanted to say at least for me your voice comes only from left channel of my headphones ( not in other videos i checked). Otherwise great video! thank you!
Much love will be fixed for next vids ;D
I pretty much only play solo and rogue is by far my favorite class. Depending on what lethal does I think this is a great change. I really hope they rework monocle to still be really good for rogue being a solo player and not practicing o3 at all in PBE it was really hard for me to craft one. I mean the class has 50 attack if they don't change monocle I think it will be a pretty useless item but if they give rogue like 75 atk or lethal is insane ig it's still a net gain
Maybe a new crit mechanic on rogue would be cool. + maybe a base stat change if they rework invis. Tbh I am afraid of a rework to invisibility, I enjoy how it is :’)
I'm so torn on sorcerer's nerfs. It's so hard to balance him in comparison to Summoner and Wizard. I feel like he finally had his chance to shine when he's always felt like a slightly worse version of those two classes (especially Summoner. That class literally felt like Sorc 2.0 on release). Hopefully they level the playing field with those three, and don't just nerf sorc into the ground alongside buffing summoner so they effectively switch places.
Kinda worried about the flail nerf. As a not exalted player it feels fine and not overpowered, but I'm guessing with full exalt it might be.
I think if lethal strike was a 1.5x damage or even just 1.25x with a bleed proc. could be pretty sick
my left ear loves this video
Great video as always you never fail to impress love you bro
I like all the changes except sorc nerf, I mean it does the exact same thing as wizard, and while wizard is harder and has higher skill ceiling it also has way higher potential dmg output, so I do not understand how can it be possible that sorc deserves nerf while wizard doesn't.
cant wait for deca to forget about literally every item that makes you invisible and just make a new rework within a year
bruuuh game's getting good again. Time to play the game 24/7 again
I think people hate change in this game, because it doesn’t come often enough. When it does it’s a pretty big change, unlike other games where they do minor buffs/nerfs often.
I think if they make it so you become uninvisible after shooting it defeats the purpose of rogue🙂↕️
There’s no way lost halls was even close to hm shatters.
You could always leach lost halls, you can never leach hm shatters. Even the boss fights in shatters fosters more group participation with how the phases are set up.
That is definitely a hot old head take.
True maybe I am too stuck in the old times
Idk why samurai is hated, I loved it. Doku with kogbold multitool,corrupted paladin plate, and ring of wrath turns you into a walking aoe bomb
The return of quiet not mattering? idc about the rest I'm interested in coming back and trying some content with rogue.
idk why but it feels like they realized how broken sorcerer is after you completed your challenge without ANY raids. congrats btw!
cheers
What happens if you fuse pet without inventory slot with pet with inventory slot? Will the inventory slot transfer to the new pet?
2:48 true the game is way too easy and i lose interest when everyone has everything so whats the point in me getting cool items
ill be open minded about the rogue change, but this feels like a nerf and I do not think the rogue deserves a nerf.
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Not a big fan of the Rogue change. I liked how it played so differently to other classes. But I can also understand it's probably a pain to balance content around a class being permanently invisible. Also does this change only apply to Rogues invisibility? What about ghost rum or turncoat for example?
yeahh only to rogue i imagine, i think grum, and turncuat and crystalized ring will still invis if i had to guess, we'll see soon :)
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Audio is fine lol
Not an exciting update for rogue in my opinion. Realm is very tough to come up with something new and exciting, so they just give some extra damage to a class. Very lame
Yeah this game is ass in the creativity department
Exactly it's all they've been adding ever since they took over this game more damage but in slightly different ways and then giving all classes the same buffs as each other like berserk
You cant have an exciting experience qithout either high damage or being good at dodging. Theres no such thing as a fun invisibility mechanic
I thought we don't know what the lethal buff does
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my left headphone...
I think itll be fun
Rogue sounds pretty lame.. if you attack you get some kind of buff breaking invisibility. So, even with the extra damage if you are constantly attacking, it sounds like you would just suck more than any other class.
Wait my rogue does like 70K damage to dumby.
And what with Manor ST? You will lose your blade form when coming out of invisibility? xD
True didn’t think about that :P
They changed it so that you get the blade form when exiting invisibility + you also get lethal. Planewalker is also having its cooldown removed but the invisibility now only lasts 3 seconds and I think it also gets +15 speed stat on equip.
Don't forget sorc was considered one of the worst classes (only viable for fame training) until they buffed it excessively. Rogue may get the same treatment.
true :O
Thanks for making one of the most underplayed classes even worse!
Hey do you mind letting us know what the music is at 7:28 please thanks
It's called 'Hydrogen' by M.O.O.N.
may the better way to nerf flail is recude dmg from 2 shots and add dmg from the closest shot from player
Agreed!!
As someone who has played rotmg since 2012 i will say this: the game is way too difficult to play casually. I enjoy tinkering with builds. However whats the point of creating unique builds if im going to be scared of losing them in the 1st week of obtaining all the items. They keep making obtaining the items harder and harder... so what you're left with is a character who is too valuable to die with. either make the items more obtainable or rework the permadeath mechanic. Its a shame in a game with so much variety that you cant make proper builds. Kinda starting to understand cheaters tbh. Im fine with dying, i dont mind an honorable death. However i want to use the character for at least a month... farming a month and more for the item build just to die within days just iust isnt worth it.
as a sorcerer main i can definetly say it deserves the nerfs lmao
This is the most depressing character rework in video game history, this fucking sucks
seb only on my left ear smh
Okay,m i see this Rogue rework being REALLY broken
When does the void event end?
Probably end up season in ten days :)
buff rogue
But rogue is overpowered in every game…
I got Omni ring and shiny leaf bow in 10 minutes because of void event lol
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Bro of course they rework rouge when I quit the game lol, been playing since 01 was in the realm so like I’m a day 1 player and my favourite class and my only exalted class is rouge I love that class so much it ain’t even funny but this is gunna destroy the class, rouge was never bout dps and should never be about dps, it’s a solo class and rushing class (an easy rushing class) but you know the class was never about dps, that’s why they added bloody so it changed you from a low dps but fast to a slow high dps, u could have the crystal cloak that dropped dps decoys, this has will end the rouge class as a solo player class, the whole point of going invisible and staying invisible is make it easy yo hit your low dps shots, it’s a dagger class that has a passive ability no buff is gunna make it a good dps class leave it as it is, this is why I quit the game, they don’t add new stuff and when they do its the same stuff and gets boring very fast and when they make changes they make some horrible changes to the game wow😤the only class I really enjoyed in the game and they took it away nice what devs 😂
why are they nerfing a class in 2024 lol
wdym?
sebchoof? more like leftchoof
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dang fury flail finally getting a nerf? good
Rip rogue
Rogue has been out of the spotlight for so long. This is nothing bit good news
play darza instead
this rogue nerf is an L
they ruined rouge
Well i mean rogue was out classed by trickster ronin now they removed solo o3 eazy mode...