What are the odds that 3 'random' points on a sphere will form an acute triangle?

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  • Опубліковано 22 кві 2023
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 82

  • @louisrobitaille5810
    @louisrobitaille5810 Рік тому +70

    6:57 "Out of nowhere."
    If there's one thing I've learned in maths and physics, it's that mathematical constants (not physics ones like c or α, afaik) show up in the most unexpected places… until you realize that most of those "unexpected places" have one thing in common: a circle (or sphere) can easily pop up if you play with the numbers a bit.

    • @user-zn4pw5nk2v
      @user-zn4pw5nk2v Рік тому

      A line projected onto a circle without crossing produces a smaller circle going through it's center, the point mapped to r/distance. And as to physics if measuring distances, you eventually will need C or h so even measuring temperature dissipation through material you will get the speed of light somewhere in the calculation, if you try to be more precise a couple of times.

  • @theidpboi6205
    @theidpboi6205 Рік тому +57

    Oh hell yeah a nerdy zach star video! Oh how i have missed these

    • @nzt29
      @nzt29 Рік тому

      yessssss

  • @AnonimityAssured
    @AnonimityAssured Рік тому +15

    I discovered, quite a few years ago, that the bisector of the larger of the two non-right-angles in a 1-2-√5 triangle cuts the longer orthogonal side of that triangle at a distance of 1 / φ from the right angle. I'm sure many people had already discovered it, even centuries before me, but it was still satisfying. This problem reminded me of it.

    • @birdbeakbeardneck3617
      @birdbeakbeardneck3617 Рік тому

      Whats the inpiration behind your thinking

    • @AnonimityAssured
      @AnonimityAssured Рік тому

      @@birdbeakbeardneck3617 A good question. Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer. As I say, I made the discovery a good many years ago, and I have no memory of what led me to it. Of course, it's just one of many possible geometrical constructions of the golden ratio, but it is certainly one of the simplest.

  • @Matthew_Klepadlo
    @Matthew_Klepadlo Рік тому +11

    “Bro, here’s why you’re a fvcking m0ron!”
    “Now, do you like interesting math puzzles that utilize the golden ratio?”
    Zach Star in a nutshell lol.

    • @oddlyspecificmath
      @oddlyspecificmath Рік тому +1

      ...I recently spent several minutes puzzling out who this _Evler_ person was, carved into MIT's Newton Tower.

    • @Matthew_Klepadlo
      @Matthew_Klepadlo Рік тому +1

      @@oddlyspecificmath
      …that sounds super cool, buddy.

  • @Wargon2013
    @Wargon2013 Рік тому +35

    Does Bertrand's paradox play a role here given that the selection method for the 3rd point hasn't been specified further?

    • @sigurd106
      @sigurd106 Рік тому +32

      Selecting random points on a sphere is well defined, and the puzzle is therefore not subject to Bertrand's paradox. Have a good day.

    • @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
      @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn Рік тому +12

      no, there is a uniform way to choose points on a surface of a sphere

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Рік тому +4

      It is assumed that the distribution is uniform over the surface area

    • @TrimutiusToo
      @TrimutiusToo Рік тому +3

      Because you are randomly selecting a single point rather than a chord, it is fine, paradox is not applicable...

  • @louishannett356
    @louishannett356 Рік тому +13

    You should look at the construction of a pentagon. When you draw the 5-pointed star using the points of the corners of the pentagon the golden ratio shows up for the line segments that form the 5-pointed star. Also, the ratio of the side of the outer pentagon to the inner pentagon of the 5-pointed star is equal to phi squared.
    Also, the value of sin(54deg)=phi/2. The values of trig functions for angles of 18deg, 36deg, 54 deg and 72deg have phi buried in the expression. Have fun with it.

    • @hazza2247
      @hazza2247 Рік тому

      never knew that about the trig functions, pretty cool

  • @JR13751
    @JR13751 Рік тому +5

    You didn't justify why does only green area results in acute triangles.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Рік тому +3

    3:54 Really cool fact! I think you can link this to the 3b1b video on surface area of the sphere, specifically the animation that breaks apart the sphere and rearranges it into a cylinder

  • @agrajyadav2951
    @agrajyadav2951 Рік тому +3

    hell yeah! Another Zach Star video!

  • @artificercreator
    @artificercreator Рік тому +3

    Can you do a tier list of the hardest type of mathematics to learn that have real life applications?
    OR, or, what about a tier list about the most challenging fields of ingeniering? or mabye something more like, rocket science vs architecture or stuff like that. Thanks for your videos.

    • @FrostDirt
      @FrostDirt Рік тому +1

      Highest level of applied math is generally Partial Differential Equations. They are enormously difficult to solve.

    • @artificercreator
      @artificercreator Рік тому

      ​@@FrostDirt Thanks for your answer! Jumping into Partial differential equations from 0 is going to be so much fun!

  • @josgibbons6777
    @josgibbons6777 Рік тому +3

    Alternatively, use compound angles to write P(theta)=(sqrt(5)/2)sin(theta/2-phi)-1/2 (where the angle phi is an exercise), with maximum (sqrt(5)-1)/2.

  • @HollowDog5899
    @HollowDog5899 Рік тому +2

    Sometimes I forget this guy is a genius

  • @Qermaq
    @Qermaq Рік тому +10

    Man your math videos are really good. Would love more of these.

  • @archangelazrael8090
    @archangelazrael8090 Рік тому +13

    I wish Zach is my Math teacher

  • @chowmein5982
    @chowmein5982 Рік тому +1

    welcome back, zach

  • @zayyeyint027
    @zayyeyint027 Рік тому

    Omg..., I have been waiting for your video:)))

  • @fardinabrarsafee5796
    @fardinabrarsafee5796 Рік тому

    Man that's awesome. We can never get enough of these nerdy videos

  • @helphowdoinputusername3571
    @helphowdoinputusername3571 Рік тому

    A curiosity I've had for a while is: how would a second time dimension work?
    Like a second spacial dimension allows us to move along two axes and occupy a higher level of space. It allows us to combine coordinates in axes to occupy different positions in the 2D/3D space. But how would that even work for time? Like would you be able to age in two directions? How would that affect processes that depend on time, or entropy? What would that even mean for measurements such as velocity? Or would time just be measured as the distance from O on the axes?
    Super weird. I can't even begin to think of what that would mean, unlike with spacial dimensions, for which it's at least possible to intuit some of it based off of flat land observations and comparisons.

  • @netzaltali
    @netzaltali Рік тому +1

    Sometimes I forget this is a math channel and I always think you are gonna butt in with a goofy punchline

  • @jorgeespinal5591
    @jorgeespinal5591 Рік тому

    Hey Zach, I’ve been interested in Aerospace engineering and I was wondering if you could recommend any specific UA-camrs that give a similar experience as you, like giving their experience through college and such? Thank you so much😁

  • @rupen42
    @rupen42 Рік тому

    Where do you get puzzles like this from?

  • @nikhildugar1707
    @nikhildugar1707 Рік тому

    Hey im kinda confused if theta 126.9 degrees and the centre is in in green area doesn't that mean that some parts of green are red area as the triangle won't be acute?

  • @triplez5393
    @triplez5393 Рік тому

    Golden ratio is the fabric of the universe beyond metaphysics

  • @_Baku
    @_Baku 11 місяців тому

    Would be curious about how this problem changes when the triangle is drawn on the surface of the sphere (using great arcs) instead of inside it.

  • @nasimajosefi
    @nasimajosefi Рік тому

    your explanation and animation are surperb, can you telle how you do your animation?

    • @zachstar
      @zachstar  Рік тому

      Thank you! And Software is called runiter

  • @nevenazMadwrld
    @nevenazMadwrld Рік тому

    more discussion of the golden ratio and speculation about how it is fundamentally related to this problem would have been interesting to add, give another 2-3 mins to the video

  • @agrajyadav2951
    @agrajyadav2951 Рік тому

    Chef's kiss
    Phi and pi are two sneaky bois

  • @MrConverse
    @MrConverse Рік тому

    6:44, outstanding video, but you said ‘odds’ when you meant probability. It’s in the title too. Odds is the ratio of winners to losers. Probability is the ration of winners to the total. Hope it helps!

  • @cycklist
    @cycklist Рік тому +4

    So why do many video titles start with an unnecessary 'so' at the moment?

  • @reidflemingworldstoughestm1394

    Arctan? Yes.

  • @hatredlord
    @hatredlord Рік тому +1

    Just for the record: is this angles of a 3D triangle, i.e. tunneling through the sphere? Or non-euclidean triangles along the surface of the sphere?

    • @AlexE5250
      @AlexE5250 Рік тому +5

      It’s the triangle on the plane of the three points. Tunneled through the sphere, not on the surface

    • @hatredlord
      @hatredlord Рік тому

      @@AlexE5250 cool, thanks.

  • @GuagoFruit
    @GuagoFruit Рік тому

    I watch these videos without really taking anything in to feel smarter about myself.

  • @leventaksakal5
    @leventaksakal5 Рік тому

    U have to make a sketch like "If god was an engineer." where an atheist and god have a conversation in afterlife

  • @godfreypigott
    @godfreypigott Рік тому

    How is the 3rd point chosen 'randomly'? If it was chosen by picking from uniform distributions of latitudes and longitudes then this would not work.

  • @brandonmaldonado7008
    @brandonmaldonado7008 Рік тому

    Can you make videos on these topics.
    Architecture
    Systems engineering
    Biotechnology
    Quantum Computing/Engineering

  • @A_Stereotypical_Guy
    @A_Stereotypical_Guy Рік тому

    Because it shows up everywhere? Lol

  • @carnap355
    @carnap355 Рік тому

    I don't get it shouldn't you just put those points as close to each other as possible

  • @johnniesalomon1942
    @johnniesalomon1942 Рік тому +2

    I read the title seven times... Tried to understand the joke or gag, but then I realized... Lol

  • @RespecterAlexander
    @RespecterAlexander Рік тому +1

    👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

  • @stevenpike7857
    @stevenpike7857 Рік тому +1

    Hey Zach, I was curious about your opinion. I would think that the laws of probability are independent of time. If this were the case, then if you could time travel you could never get back to your future. For example, if you traveled 10 years back in time and then traveled back to your future, all the events based on probability would be "re-rolled". Another example is say you memorized the lottery numbers that won in last weeks lottery and then traveled back in time. The odds of winning this particular lottery is, say, 1 in 350 million. Since the balls "have no memory" it would still be 1 in 350 million chance that those numbers would come up. There's no guarantee that those numbers would come up again. I don't know, it's just something I thought about, what do you think?

  • @mrxylophonegaming4249
    @mrxylophonegaming4249 Рік тому

    Burgundy

  • @AzeddineHamich
    @AzeddineHamich Рік тому

    👌

  • @AzureFlash
    @AzureFlash Рік тому

    I picked a random video, it was Zach Star, he's a cute so I win

  • @JosaxJaz
    @JosaxJaz Рік тому

    The people in these comments are far smarter than me holy

  • @mdashrafulahmed2820
    @mdashrafulahmed2820 Рік тому

    real

  • @alexbanks9510
    @alexbanks9510 Рік тому +1

    I'm not happy with the explanation from 3:05 onwards. You can't just say "these bits aren't red so they're green". I have no confidence that ALL the points in that section are valid

    • @duongquocthongho2117
      @duongquocthongho2117 Рік тому

      I agree

    • @anhthiensaigon
      @anhthiensaigon Рік тому

      tbf I find at that point it's pretty straightforward already and is okay to omit the rigor. Just for quick visualization: imagine we have determined 3 points. Then through these 3 points we can define a plane that cut the sphere at a circle. If the 3rd point lies in the red area, it's quite easy to see that on the circle intersection, *all 3 points lie on one side relative to a diameter of that circle* . That results in that one angle has to be >90°.
      Nevertheless I agree Zach skipped this part too fast, probably since he can't afford to make a longer vid.

    • @hazza2247
      @hazza2247 Рік тому

      he explained that no matter where on the sphere u place a point in that green area, it will always be acute, i don’t know what u mean by ‘have no confidence’ when he literally showed that it’s always acute in the green

    • @duongquocthongho2117
      @duongquocthongho2117 Рік тому

      @@hazza2247 he in fact did not explain why

    • @hazza2247
      @hazza2247 Рік тому

      @@duongquocthongho2117 he did he showed that in that green area any third point will make an acute triangle

  • @no_name4796
    @no_name4796 Рік тому +2

    0:23 yeah the triangle is very cute
    I WIN!!!

  • @ultrainstinctgokuhope7442
    @ultrainstinctgokuhope7442 Рік тому

    So your saying I can unlock tusk 4, got it

  • @rhashydramos7927
    @rhashydramos7927 Рік тому +3

    Can I use this to defeat the United States president?

  • @MichaelZankel
    @MichaelZankel Рік тому

    5:10 I disagree, it should be written as: 4pi*r*z- pi*R2d2
    I cannot believe you didn’t write it that way, very disappointing.

  • @FrederickCorkery
    @FrederickCorkery 11 місяців тому

    "promosm"

  • @doim1676
    @doim1676 Рік тому

    You do make interesting videos, but i find it hard to stay focused because of the many little pauses you make while speaking. Some of them may be a good thing, but for me it's too many. Just a suggestion for improving, but maybe it's just a me thing and the way you record you videos is fine 🤷

  • @Ulnvtcydr
    @Ulnvtcydr Рік тому

    Boring.