The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First? | Gary and Mondo
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2023
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I lost my brother on the 17th of January 2023, i lost my beautiful Mother on January 30th 2023 and my last brother on August 4th 2023 my heart is broken 💔 if not for the blessed hope i dont think i could have made it through this year. Even so Lord come.
Prayers for peace and comfort from our Lord Jesus Christ for you sister. 🙏🏻🕊
GOD IS WALKING THROUGH THIS SEASON , WITH YOU !
PRAISE HIM !
"Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ's sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people's matters. Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter."
~ 1 Peter 4:12-16
"And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong."
~ 2 Corinthians 12:9-10
"Consider it all joy, my brothers and sisters, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing."
~ James 1:2-4
"Many are the afflictions of the righteous, But the LORD delivers him out of them all."
~ Psalm 34:19
"Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus."
~ Philippians 3:13-14
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
~ Matthew 5:3-12
"Look, I go forward, but He is not there,
And backward, but I cannot perceive Him;
When He works on the left hand, I cannot behold Him;
When He turns to the right hand, I cannot see Him.
But He knows the way that I take;
When He has tested me, I shall come forth as gold."
~ Job 23:8-10
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end."
~ Jeremiah 29:11
Amen. This is why Paul says we are to comfort one another with these words (1 Thess 4:18). God is so gracious and Jesus is very much looking forward to be reunited with us!
I'm so sorry for the tremendous losses you have had in such a short time. I pray that God gives you peace that surpasses all understanding.
My mum went to heaven 3rd Oct, 4 years ago. Knowing that she is in the lord’s presence and has seen him face to face is my utmost comfort 🥰
"It's the glory of God to conceal a matter. It's the honor of kings to search a matter out." Proverbs 25:2
I don't know how many times I am looking for an answer to something and suddenly you are talking about it and providing the answer. Thank you for obeying God's calling.
LET IT BE TODAY!! I'm ready to go!
If God can call the world into existence he can call the dad up from anywhere
This gap between the dead in Christ rising and the rising of those who are alive and remain makes me think of the parable of the ten virgins...when there will apparently be a brief recognition among many, (perhaps because the graves of the dead in Christ are opened, just as Jesus' tomb was opened) that the catching away of the living Bride of Christ is about to occur...and there will be a mad scramble for (Holy Spirit) Oil among those who's trust in Jesus is lacking.
There's still time folks. Please do not trust in your own perceived worthiness. None of us deserves heaven. We have all sinned and fallen short. Please trust in Jesus, and Jesus alone, right now. Please. He is our only Hope.
My father passed away today 23 years ago 😢. Can't wait to see him again! 🙏
My beloved father passed on 25 years ago , I also can’t wait to be reunited again with him and my loved ones . May the peace and comfort of our Lord Jesus Christ be with us all the days of ours lives 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
We are looking at it from the natural and human perspective with time and space.God's perspective is beyond and outside the human construct.
It says that both the dead in Christ and we who are alive will be raptured in the twinkling of an eye, so even thought the dead saints are transformed first, there will be very little time between the two in my opinion.
Exactly! I Thess 4:13 - “ … TOGETHER to meet THEM in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air …”. Oh my. Is ANYTHING too hard for God?! He IS able! No matter if organs were donated or whatever. He will do just what He said he will do. 🙌🏽🙏🏽🕊️
@@ttothed2308 It would be cool if we who are alive at the rapture, see the dead rise first before we join them. I have a feeling only believers would see such a thing.
@@russelllowry1061it might be possible for all to see it. I heard there are records of dead in Christ rising at Jesus' resurrection. Apparently a Rabbi was raised and went into Jerusalem. Other Rabbis in the Temple recognized him and tried to talk to him. They asked him how was this happening that he was raised from the dead? The Rabbi wouldn't talk to them. He just looked at them and remained silent. I'm sorry I don't have the link to this. I saw the interview years ago. It was very interesting! I'm sure there are many records we are not allowed to know about.
I agree wholeheartedly with you. This is how I interpret that my late Mother, Grandmother maybe a second before we who are living raptured right behind them.
@@russelllowry1061amen! I would love to see the graves busting wide open and souls arise! 🙏
I am not a zombie. Hallelujah.
One way to reconcile this is that when we die, we are no longer bound by time. And while it may seem like years and years, even hundreds or thousands of years before we are resurrected(to those who remain), it will be like the blink of an eye, and we will be with Christ.
Thank you Gary and Mondo! It is so exciting to think about and talk about the things to come! 🎉🎉
Awh! If we only knew now the composition of a spiritual body. But, we will know one day. ALL PRAISE TO THE FATHER THROUGH JESUS CHRIST!
Funny thought from Australia: we often think of cars and aeroplanes were the driver and pilots disappear but what about someone in the dentist chair with really bad teeth. All of a sudden they change and the dentist notices all these absolutely perfect teeth before they shoot up...
😂
The tomb was empty, no-one has found the bones of Yeshua. He appeared to the Believers and they physically saw him go up in the clouds and will appear again in like manner. A thought I had the other daywhen I was listening to NZ news. We recently had flooding and bad weather for the third time, but this time in the South Island. As is the custom in the Maori culture, a blessing was said over the graves in Queenstown that were severely affected. My thought was what if all this flooding that is happening around the world is Elohim softening the ground in preparation for the miracle of our blessed hope. My 2cents worth. Shalom
There are two trumpet blasts … the first for the dead in Christ .. the 2nd / last trumpet blast for those that are alive and remain..so the time delay is the rime it takes for the sound of the first blast to quiet.
I believe that they're soles are reunited with their bodies only in a glorified form. Come, Jesus, come!
No Christian should fear death. Death takes us to our real home. This world isn't it.
The comment made toward the end of the video where Mondo said that Jesus came back in "flesh and bone" was very interesting to me. This could mean our spiritual bodies will also be flesh and bone. Blood will no longer be a part of us. It makes me think how blood is the life source of humans on earth and how Jesus shed his blood for us. Also there was so much blood shed in the old testament during sacrifices made by priests. Blood also carries many diseases and back then women were said to be "unclean" when they menstrated. Then there are all the laws in Leviticus that talk about uncleanness from blood and skin diseases. In that day Jews correlated blood and skin issues with death. Also, the verse that speaks of :being absent from the body is being with Christ" shows that we are in heaven after we die. Praise God!!!
“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. [I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU]. And if I go and prepare a place for you, [I WILL COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU TO MYSELF; THAT WHERE I AM, THERE YOU MAY BE ALSO]."
~ John 14:1-3
"I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, [AS OF A TRUMPET], saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band."
~ Revelation 1:10-13
"After these things I looked, [AND BEHOLD, A DOOR STANDING OPEN IN HEAVEN]. And the first voice which I heard [WAS LIKE A TRUMPET] speaking with me, saying, “[COME UP HERE], and I will show you things which must take place [AFTER THIS].”
~ Revelation 4:1
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
[WHEREFORE COMFORT ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS]."
~ 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: [FOR THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND], and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
~ 1 Corinthians 15:51-53
“At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. [BUT AT THAT TIME YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED], everyone whose name shall be found written in the book. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."
~ Daniel 12:1-2
"Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie-behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you. Because you have kept My word about patient endurance, [I WILL KEEP YOU FROM THE HOUR OF TRIAL] that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth. I am coming soon. Hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown."
~ Revelation 3:9-11
"Your dead shall live;
Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust;
For your dew is like the dew of herbs,
And the earth shall cast out the dead.
Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain."
~ Isaiah 26:19-21
"Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy [TO ESCAPE] all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
~ Luke 21:36
"The days of our lives are seventy years;
And if by reason of strength they are eighty years,
Yet their boast is only labor and sorrow;
For it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
Who knows the power of Your anger?
For as the fear of You, so is Your wrath.
So teach us to number our days,
That we may gain a heart of wisdom.
Return, O LORD!
How long?
And have compassion on Your servants.
Oh, satisfy us early with Your mercy,
That we may rejoice and be glad all our days!
Make us glad according to the days in which You have afflicted us,
The years in which we have seen evil.
Let Your work appear to Your servants,
And Your glory to their children.
And let the beauty of the LORD our God be upon us,
And establish the work of our hands for us;
Yes, establish the work of our hands."
~ Psalm 90:10-17
"FOR GOD DID NOT APPOINT US TO WRATH, BUT TO OBTAIN SALVATION THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST."
~ 1 Thessalonians 5:9
@@fearofaflatearth Wrong. The Churches are not on the earth after Revelation 4:1. The Church/Body of Christ is in Heaven with JESUS during the entire Tribulation period and isn't seen again until Revelation 19:11-17 (Jude 1:14-15) when we return with JESUS at the Second Coming for the Battle of Armageddon.
Awesome 👏 👏 👏 You included some of THE most relevant verses pertaining to the Rapture of Church Age Believers🙏
@@65gtotrips All the glory goes to JESUS! 👑🙏✝️🕊🙌
@@WWJD799 Not all the Churches are raptured. Some who claim to know Christ, do not. Jesus spitting them out of his mouth? Doesn't sound like a rapture verse to me.
@@doncleveland1245 I stand corrected. Thank you brother Don. I should have worded my response as all saved believers in Christ Jesus, not "The Churches."
Iron sharpens iron. Thank you for your comment. 🙏👍
Great discussion both of you as usual! We love the fact that you can now comment on prophecy watchers. *I love essentially every diverse episode!*
Hello you two precious ones. I agree soooo much with you Mondo. GOD BLESS YOU BOTH 🙌🙌🙌🙋🏼♀️🥰❤️❤️❤️
We who are alive will MEET them in the air and forevermore will be with the Lord.
Hi Mondo and Gary
I have been studying the Scriptures since being saved 4 years ago, and I think I can answer some of these questions. The Spirit has been guiding me with this, and I believe what I have come up with can answer most questions, however there are some differences to traditional teachings. The problem is that teachers have always conflated different events, or not recognize that there are multiple events. The passage always referred to in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 doesn’t actually happen until the “last day” after the Millenium, when the 2nd resurrection takes place. The “we who are alive and remain” are those still living at the end of that period. The reason that there have always been arguments (or discussions) over rapture timings is because they are all correct, in that the “Bride” is raptured pre-tribulation, the “Lukewarm” are spued out, and go through the first portion of tribulation (not wrath), before being the multitude raptured from “great tribulation” referred to in Revelation 7:9-17, at or after the 6th seal. The next part after the silence in Heaven is referred to as the “wrath of the Lamb”, which is the trumpet judgements. The “Day of the Lord” (not the one referred to in Peter) is the harvest of new believers pre-wrath, (Jesus with the sickle) and then the bowls are poured out on the unbelievers during the “wrath of God”, also referred to as the treading of the wine press. I tried to share this on UA-cam, a few days ago but didn’t get many views, so hardly anyone has seen it. Using this model everything works out, and fits the dozens of Scriptures that refer to these happenings. I would be happy to talk further with you about this, and I do have some spreadsheets that I can send to you also. God bless, Brad
Sorry I forgot to mention the 1st resurrection, which is of the Martyrs only, who will be taken pre-wrath, and will rule with Jesus during the tribulation, after being judged by the Bride as explained in Revelation 20:4-6. There is a bit more to the martyr group but I won’t go into that here. After God’s wrath there is the 2nd coming to remove any late comers (those who endure), and to take the Jewish remnant, and the Elect from the wilderness (the mountains of Israel) before the Millenium. At that time there is also the war at Armageddon, and the slaying of the wicked with the sword of his mouth. Of course the Beast and false prophet are destroyed and Satan chained at the same time. Pretty busy, and that is why everyone has struggled to fit it all into 7 years, and they try to overlay the judgements to fit them in. I am in the process of matching all the Scriptures to the events for reference, and there is still a bit more that I haven’t told you here. Thanks for your discussions, I always enjoy them.
the entire 7 years of the orgay Tribulation is Gods wrath. there is much much confusion and inaccuracy with this explanation...
As usual an excellent and informative program. I appreciate you mentioning everyone fears physical death. I thought I might be in the minority, as many say they do not fear physical death. I appreciate everything you all do.
Lavish blessings from the Most High for your ministry and astounding knowledge of the Word, you guys❣️yes in deed, it's a sequence of the physical resurrection, in a fraction of a second (see chuck misler's mathematical calculation) unlike those who were resurrected at Jesus' cross resurrection who were resurrected in their natural lives, and died later. Amen.
Amen 🙏🏻
Having your name written in the Lamb's Book of Life, I believe that it's not only our "name", but our specific DNA. God made us, He created our DNA, He can make the resurrected body in the original recipe of Adam/Eve's make-up. I believe God changed the recipe after the flood of Noah to limit our years to 120. God holds the keys to our make-up. He speaks it into existence and it is. Therefore, I don't believe it matters whether we're a set of boxed bones within a grave, or whether our ashes have been scatted upon the sea, or whether we were lost at sea and were consumed by creatures of the deep. The very elements of which our bodies were created from exist within the earth. God Almighty calls us forth, we come forth in the completeness of DNA He calls forth. He holds the key, He is life itself.
Having our DNA intact, as God made us is very important. When He speaks a calling to come forth, we had better not have allowed our DNA to be altered to something other than His hand created, or we'll be left remaining in our body's resting place until he calls up the damned at a later date.
Ratdog!
Great thoughts brother! And my thought is if our DNA is not written in the Book of Life, it will certainly be written on either our human spirit or our soul. Remember what Paul said in first Thessalonians, we are spirit, we possess a soul which includes our mind, emotion, and will and we live in a body.
However! Who is our example of rising from the dead? Jesus is! His resurrection caused an earthquake and his stone was rolled away - that would have made noise? The guards of the tomb were "as dead men"? So it was quite an event. Wouldn't the dead rising around the world at the rapture be such an event as well??
Yes I believe there will be great power unleashed !
Dust flying , tornadoes, and earthquakes and Shockwaves
Hang on. Haven't listened to this yet but I saw the title and realized something from scripture. When we accept Jesus, we are dead to the world. Rom 6 vs 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin may be destroyed, to the end that we may serve sin no longer.
Rom 6 vs 7 For he that is dead is justified from sin.
Rom 6 vs 8 Now, if we be dead *with* Christ, we believe that we shall live also together with Christ.
Rom 6 vs 9 Knowing that Christ, rising again from the dead, dieth now no more. Death shall no more have dominion over him.
Thank you Gary and Mondo excellent information.
To say that the souls/spirits of the dead in Christ are in heaven is NOT the only way to reconcile this. I do not believe that the souls of the dead go to heaven and then "wait" for the resurrection. I do not believe that the disembodied spirits of Christians who die are just sitting around in heaven waiting. This is what I think is happening. God is not limited to time and space as we are. He transcends both time and space. I believe that when a believer dies, he is transported by God through time to the day of the rapture/resurrection and, from the perspective of the soul who has just died, he/she is immediately resurrected in the future time of the resurrection. From the perspective of those who are living on earth, these people may be dead for years or even hundreds of years, but from God's perspective and the perspective of the one who has died, they are immediately resurrected in what is to us the future but for God is the eternal present. I think this is part of what is meant when it says that the dead in Christ will rise first. From the perspective of the dead, they are already risen. From our perspective, it is yet a future event.
God doesn't need our old body of corruption because we will be given a body of heavenly material .. a glorified body to house our spirit and soul... in my opinion 😊
❤Jesus is in charge of creation, we know that every proton knows where every other proton is, so I imagine it won't be hard to line us up, each in his own order🎺 which is maybe why there is a delay based on the "space" between them, hyper-dimensionally speaking.When that happens, legit, a dimension is uncurled, like a scroll being unrolled or rolled back on itself ✨
when Jesus died, there was an earthquake, the vail was torn and a couple hundred Saints came out of their graves. where are the accounts of Lazarus who had died and those people who were raised?? some answers may be in those occurrences. just a consideration. thnx for the content Mondo & Gary!
Maranatha! 🙏
I heard there are Temple records of dead in Christ rising at Jesus' resurrection. Apparently a Rabbi was raised and went into Jerusalem. Other Rabbis in the Temple recognized him and tried to talk to him. They asked him how was this happening that he was raised from the dead? The Rabbi wouldn't talk to them. He just looked at them and remained silent. I'm sorry I don't have the link to this. I saw the interview years ago. It was very interesting! I'm sure there are many records we are not allowed to know about.
i've learned from these great watchers that those who were raised rom the dead at the time of Christ's resurrection, were raised to live out their lives and died again in the flesh.
maranatha✨🎺🪔
@@fabbrofamily7038 I think Lazarus lived out the rest of his days, but I'm not sure about those who were raised with Jesus.
I think the dead in Christ will come out of their graves, and attempt another deliverance for sinners giving them another chance to become saved so they can be born again like the Church. When unsaved people see there saved loved ones as if to say He is God, pay attention!
I think God has a blueprint like DNA that will recreate each person.
Absent from body is present with the Lord.
To the dead in Christ, THEY and WE are already with Jesus and THEM. It's a time perspective. E= M.c. 2.
Gerry asked to where do we go when we die? Did we get an answer? To heaven okey but is that the same as paradise. Sleeping? Knowing what's going on on earth? What kind of life do they have waiting for the rapture?
It seems obvious to me that God has our DNA, knows every hair on our head, every cell in our body, He created us in His image. It is He who reunites the departed Spirits now with Him and this DNA body in the twinkling of an eye. We call it resurrection when in fact, it is more of a reuniting of old created body and spirit. Only this body is immortal and perfect. Sometimes it is hard to get out of our own way thinking only in such a human way acc to what we think we know. God can do anything if we take off human limits.
Oh I certainly hope the graves open just like they did in the first resurrection when Jesus died,
and many Saints were seen . so I'm hoping for the same in the rapture.😇🇬🇧❤️🇮🇱
I think they will be because I believe that resurrection was a type and shadow.
Sure they will, but they won't be walking around, they will meet Jesus in the air. Some people think the Saints will be walking around, but that would be more of prideful thinking than anything else.
I agree. Let’s hope so. I mean why would God waste an opportunity to let people see their dead relatives it could only turn the heart to God surely?😇🇬🇧❤️🇮🇱
That’s a very strange thing to say why is it prideful! Nobody knows the length of time Between the dead rising and Saints going up.
The instant it will be a week later. I have no idea I will leave it to God and it will be very exciting to see . Have a blessed day 😇🇬🇧❤️🇮🇱
@@ritathomson9764 If you were translated into your glorious body, and you were allowed to walk around and talk to people, walk through walls, fly around, try and save people yourself, etc... It isn't about you. It's all Jesus. So you walking around and doing things might or might not point to Jesus, and that isn't God's plan.
I appreciate all you do Gary and Mondo. I have wondered sometimes about the part of the verse that says " we who are "alive" and "remain" In the stongs means 'to leave all around' or survive. Can this be taken another way about remain? remaining from what? I apologize for not being very clear... Great question Gary!
we who are alive and remain on this earth alive - those who are alive at te time of the rapture/rapturo/ harpazo. We are "this generation".
maranatha✨🎺☁️
It's the original DNA blueprint for each individual that will be restored in the resurrection. Restored to the glorified blueprint. That which was intended from the beginning of the thought of each of us. From mortality to immortality, we will be transformed.
Let.GOD deal with the logistics of our brothers & sisters whose physical bodies were decimated, HE's got this, I don't worry about this😂🎉❤
I am curious w/ will the graves actually open for the dead to rise ? If so the nonbelievers will loose their minds when they discover cemeteries littered w/ open graves w/ empty coffins !!
It will be visible anyway, no matter what happens in cemeteries.
Imagine all the bodies in morgues, in autopsies, lying in state in funeral homes! Even those Being prepared for visitations, those who just died on a hospital bed or during surgery, suddenly disappearing under their hands, & before their eyes.
Together wijn christ also 500 others arose and showd them to the citicens in Jeruzalem
Those whom died b4 Jesus, are with Abraham +. Paradise. Center of Earth. Across the great divide from Hell holding place. Not dark. Safe! Yet can see/hear Hells lost. *the story: he asked Jesus to warn his brothers not to come here!
Interesting discussion but in the end, the question of “when” remains unanswered.
You both are completely wrong on one point. Not everyone fears death. I have not one ounce of fear of death in me. I don't care which way I go, death or Rapture, I just want the heck outta here!! Hard for me to imagine that a Christian fears death (I would italicize if I could). That's when true life begins!! MARANATHA
I think what they mean is they fear the pain, or the way in which we die. Not what’s going to happen after we die.
@@HarpsDad22 Actually, the number of tribulation Saints who are martyred for Christ outnumber raptured Saints by more than 10 to 1, and they will not fear death.
Same!
So are all who have died in Christ in heaven at the moment don’t have their glorified Body, and won’t get until the rapture?
Question: if Jesus was not down in weakness, would He have aged and grown old if He hadn’t been killed?
Is there another video with the rest of this. So good.
Check the link in the description
Isaiah 26:19
I believe the moment we die we’re taken up by angels, remember we have a spiritual soul, so where is the souls the moment we die? With the Lord absence of the body, present with the Lord. Says it right in the Bible… read your Bible people.. put your trust in God, Not mankind.
Yes, our soul goes to Heaven when we die. But the moment the rapture happens our bodies rise from the grave and meet our souls in the air and our bodies are changed into immortal bodies.
@@michaelseay9783 We need our old bodies for the sole purpose of Jesus transforming them into new incorruptible bodies.
@@HarpsDad22 Negative. No need for anything physical. People eaten by sharks will be translated into glory just like we will.
@@doncleveland1245 Our physical bodies will be resurrected. Doesn’t matter if it’s a whole body, cremated body, or disintegrated body.
@@HarpsDad22 Which scripture are you referring to, sir, since you seem to hold the cards here? Somehow your "We need our old bodies for the sole purpose of Jesus transforming them into new incorruptible bodies." is written somewhere, lets reveal where you found that...
Perhaps it will be more like King Saul’s interaction Prophet Samuel. We will rise from an “underworld” I.e. the spirit of the person rises.
I also say this because it is probable that there are molecules or Aron’s of water that are in each of us that were in the bodies of people who died…
But in all honesty, the only thing that matters is that we will be resurrected
When do the dead not in Christ be released? Or do they? How does it work?
Very interesting discussion and mind boggling.
What about when graves opened and people were walking around?
The dead in Christ have already risen they're not resting in a grave
Yes their soul/spirit but their body is still on earth
Yes, their souls are already already Heaven, but God is coming for their bodies next.
Their physical bodies will be ressurected, when the dead in Christ are resdutected from the grave.
Only those who were saved and died in Christ will have their bodies ressurected.
I was wondering about this my mom was cremated
Doesn't matter, she will still receive a new , immortal body. The sea will also give up their dead, many of whom were consumed by decay or predators.
We are all made out of the dust of the earth, so it doesn't matter whether we're cremated or buried; GOD makes a brand new body for us believers at the Resurrection! 🥳🙏✝️🕊🙌
@@russelllowry1061Amen, and consider those martyred saints who were burned at the stake for their love for, and faith in, Jesus Christ! 🙏✝️
@@michaelseay9783Ok, well be sure and let Jesus know that, because the Bible says we will.
@@michaelseay9783 Wrong. The soul and the spirit go to Heaven or to Hades (hell) after our bodies die, but those in Heaven have not received their glorified "physical" bodies like JESUS yet.
We (the Church/Body of Christ) receive our glorified 'physical' bodies at the Resurrection (the Rapture). The dead in Christ receive theirs first and then we who are alive and remain are caught up together with them in the clouds to receive ours right afterward.
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
[WHEREFORE COMFORT ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS]."
~ 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: [FOR THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND], and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
~ 1 Corinthians 15:51-53
“At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. [BUT AT THAT TIME YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED], everyone whose name shall be found written in the book. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."
~ Daniel 12:1-2
"Your dead shall live;
Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust;
For your dew is like the dew of herbs,
And the earth shall cast out the dead.
Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain."
~ Isaiah 26:19-21
The movement from God's throne was as if the design for a material matter was as if God's hand slain itself to kill the 7 stars, the angels in his hand. His heart/mind window to God's word continual glorifying his majesty and righteousness, and ALSO AT HIS FEET the deeds of the body show his piercings. These angels of entropies and life do flower. Ps 70 today this morning made this video bless me.
The opening of the graves is obviously a sign for the people that will remain here on the Earth, just like when Jesus died and the great earthquake happened and the graves were opened. This should encourage and build up the faith of the many who will have to be martyred for their faith for refusing his mark.
The resurrection is after the tribulation, those who are martyred will be resurrected to reign with Christ and the living do not precede the dead just as Christ said after the tribulation He will return and have the angels His elect FROM EARTH AND HEAVEN.
@@bondslaveofJesusChrist If resurrection only happens after the 7 year Tribulation, why then was there resurrection of the dead when graves were opened in Matthew 27:52 and the saints came out of the graves and went to the city and then appeared to many at verse 53? Jesus will return at the rapture with the dead saints because they only have soul and spirit in heaven. They will have their immortal bodies with their soul and spirit in fulfilling God's promise that He wil continue His work on us until it is finally finished on the day when Jesus returns at the rapture to get us Philippians 1:6. Also, our citizenship is in heaven as we eagerly wait for Him to get us and transform us Philippians 3:20-21.
Adding to that what was said in 1 Corinthians 15, Heaven cannot inherit corruptible or what can decay. That is why dead saints left their bodies on earth. So the Bride of Christ will have immortal and incorruptible bodies to enter heaven. The people who will enter the Millenial kingdom are mortal people who will have babies and will re populate the whole earth again.
@@wyncedc645 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 Christ is the first fruit of the resurrection to eternal life, then those who belong to Him at His coming.
Matthew 24:29-31 After the tribulation, Jesus said He would return, not before.
The resurrection is not just for the dead, the living will be resurrected to eternal life as well without dying. That's the mystery Paul gave in 1 Corinthians 15:50-52. The rapture happens at the resurrection, and Christ was clear about His return, AFTER the tribulation
@@wyncedc645 And the ones who repopulate earth in the millennium is the 144,000 from revelation, read Zephaniah 3:12-20, that is why they have to be undefiled and pure Jews, because believers will be gathered up when Jesus returns and everyone left on earth will be destroyed except for the 144,000 and whoever is in Jerusalem at His return (Joel 3)
@@bondslaveofJesusChrist
Again, it says that "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption" 1 Corinthians 15:50. It is saying no man can go to heaven where God is unless they have immortal bodies like Christ. But the Millenial kingdom or 1000 year reign of Christ have corruptible men living there which is after 7 years Tribulation. So why do we need to have immortal bodies when after the Tribulation period, people who are mortal can be at the Millenial kingdom?
What about Lazarus physical resurrection? Jesus said, “come forth Lazarus” and he had been in the grave for four days
Time will tell... full circle. ❤
I don't want to be morbid ... but what if we are cremated ? And what about the blood being replaced with embalming fluid ? What about being dust and / or ash? Does having remains of our fleshly bodies have any impact on our "reconstruction" ? What , if anything , does the Bible say about this ? Thank you for your consideration of this question ...
It doesn't say anything about this in Scripture However, Jesus is still an example because his body was embalmed with special herbs, spices and elixirs. Nothing is impossible for God. People die in house fires, are blown up, etc. Cremation and embalming fluid are not stumbling blocks for God. He created everything in the universe. He knows our molecules and atoms. With one word, he can pull everything together to recreate our bodies only they will no longer be corruptible. Psalms says I knew you before you were knit together in your mother's womb - he knows us down to the last atom.
Being in Christ is all that matters. Body or not, you will be raised incorruptible, or translated to glory.
Why reunite a live Spirit into a dead body, Will the Spirit rejuvenate the cells and create new cells? So many questions so little time!
Why all the negative comments. This is just an 18 minute discussion. This an in death 10 week course on the subject. Where is the loving kind Christian , IMO interpretation responses ??
Our bodies will be like Jesus’ body in the resurrection. However, Jesus’ body was incorruptible because He never sinned. We live in a body of death, that turns back to dust again. We will not be reunited with our ‘dust’ body, because God placed a curse on the dust of the ground. Our eternal bodies are being kept by God in heaven for us. 2 Corinthians 5:1 The dead will receive their immortal bodies in heaven.
How about the people that were cremated or died in plane crashes? So are they put back together in new bodies?
No, they are translated into glory from the molecules that belonged to them.
Hmmm.... my thoughts emerge about the graves that opened when Christ died... And how the Bible patterns itself over and over... ie/heptadic structure... I am not convinced this initial pattern will not repeat itself at the dead in Christ who will rise first.
What becomes of the bodies which are cremated?
Dust and You know what GOD can create out of dust...for example Adam - GOD CAN DO EVERYTHING ❤❤❤
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You know what guys?…………You really don’t know anymore than anyone else does about the raising of the saints! God will do, what God will do…….just accept it.
I like questions like this it’s interesting. It’s interesting listen to peoples views. As long as it’s not too far out there.
I love pondering questions like these and I firmly believe they often yield answers or lead down trails of learning. Thanks Prophecy Watchers for doing exactly that
The problem is that most, did not listen to what Jesus Christ actually said, “ALL that enter into the church” will be RESURRECTED at the return of the Lord Jesus. Most think that because we are ALIVE RIGHT NOW, we will BE ALIVE at the return of the Lord Jesus. But that doesn’t FIT with what He said!!
The entire church will be in grave before Jesus Christ returns! Keep in mind….we haven’t even entered the tribulation yet!!
@@heavenbound358
That is popular religion and misinterpretation of the Word of God! Yes, it says that we shall not (ALL SLEEP); but it is speaking of two distinct groups that belong to God!
Those COMMANDED by Jesus Christ to FOLLOW HIM to where He now dwells….are most certainly going to (Die) fall asleep before He RETURNS!!
The second group are those that WERE NEVER COMMANDED to follow the Lord Jesus to where He now dwells!!
THEY will REMAIN and BE ALIVE and GATHERED at the RETURN of Jesus Christ!!
You must know the difference!!!
@@FormVoltronthe true church who are trusting alone in Christ’s redemptive work on the cross won’t be here during the great tribulation when wrath is poured out. Paul very clearly indicated to the church of Thessalonians that we who are alive and remain will meet the dead in Christ and join Him in the air. If everyone is dead, how is that event supposed to happen? I’m asking rhetorically of course. How do you reconcile your viewpoint against Paul’s writings?
If the dead already went to heaven when they died, why do they need to rise during the rapture?
to get/receive their glorified bodies
Can anyone break down the alive and remain part
I Corinthians 15:44... There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Our spirit-man just becomes visible when the material world merges with the eternal spirit reality.
Rev 1:1 The Revelation (unveiling) of Jesus Christ, (becomes visible)
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth (becomes visible), and his angels were cast out with him.
Mar_4:22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad. (becomes visible)
Luk_8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. (becomes visible)
“Earth’s Earliest Ages” by H. G. Pember, on page 253: “Man is a spirit in prison, and so he must be content to abide, until God unlocks the door of his Cell. But if he will have instant enjoyment by a premature excitation of potentialities which are reserved for future development, he can only do so feloniously breaking through his dungeon bars, and thus shattering the harmony of his present nature.” And on pages 255-6 “For our body appears to be not only a prison, but also a fortress, and is, not improbably, devised for the very purpose of sheltering us in some degree from the corrupting influence of demons. In its normal condition it effectually repels their more open and violent assaults: but if once we suffer the fence to be broken down, we are no longer able to restore it, and are henceforth exposed to the attacks of malignant enemies.”
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The Christians who haven't died yet at that time.
@@Smith-he6bg ok thanks
What are the trumpets going to sound like? I assume we are going to hear them. Most of the body returns to dust anyway. That isn't any smaller than someone who was spread all over the world.
Jesus told the thief on the cross, today you will be in Paradise, also, the bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The shroud of Turin, I would like to say that Jesus was wrapped, but his face had a seperate napkin around his face, because the napkin was folded seperate from the body wrap, therefore I want to say that the Shroud of Turin shows the resurrection with his face with the body on the material. I have not heard anyone talk about this.What do you think?
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Those mics need more elbow joints
What about cremation?
I've often thought those verses meant that we had to change to incorruptible to be translated. Both dead and alive. Remember. Elijah was taken up in a Chariot because he has a physical death by the Antichrist yet to happen.
Here's my perspective: Adam was created from the dust of the blessed earth. Adam walked with God. Adam sinned and could no longer walk with God. Adam died and returned to dust. Jesus tore the veil of separation of mankind from God when he paid our price for sin. We die and return to the dust we came from. If God can create a man from the dust of the earth, can He not gather that dust once again? Is He not the creator of man? We return to an Adamic state of being that once again will "walk with God" in His presence...We are restored!! This is not something totally new. It's restoration...
The elephant in the room needs to be addressed… the resurrection of the righteous dead happens first.. this is extremely important doctrine matters..
The dead in Christ rise first, that is not the rapture. That is the resurrection of the rightehous dead, and it happens first, then after the dead are raised…
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
The resurrection of the righteous dead happens first… which happens after the tribulation not before.. Dan 12…
The resurrection of the righteous dead happens first then we which are alive and remain will be caught up With them together, when he comes at the last trumpet, the trumpet of God, same time, not before the dead, with them, at the same time… when he comes.
to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
We’re going to be caught up to meet the Lord just like in Matthew 24, but when does the being caught up, the gathering of the elect in Matthew 24 happen? It Happens after the tribulation, after the cosmic disturbance, at the coming of the Lord in the clouds. So he comes in the clouds and gathers us, and everyone sees him and mourns, the nations of the earth see him, the nation of Israel sees him.. if you’re putting the rapture before the salvation of Israel, you’re making a massive strategic mistake here. The salvation of Israel, at the end of the age is connected at such a deep level to the resurrection of the dead in the visible bodily return of Jesus…
Paul has already said, we who are alive will not precede the righteous dead, the dead in Christ get raised first, and then we who are alive and remain meet them together… We meet the Lord, and it’s together in the air.
1. The resurrection of the righteous dead
2. the gathering of the Saints, who are alive,
3. and the coming of Jesus are the same event…
If you’re alive, you’re not being resurrected… to be resurrected means you were dead and now you’re being raised. If you’re alive, you’re being raptured caught up. This is the framework… The New Testament, lays out a very clear, simple framework. Jesus comes back one time, not two times or three times, one time. He comes back and when he comes back he resurrects the dead in Christ and he raptures, catches up those who are alive. That’s the framework, there is no phantom second coming, and then a visible third coming. There is no secret rapture and then a public rapture. There’s no preliminary gathering of the Saints and then an another gathering of the Saints. There’s only one coming there’s only one resurrection of the rightehous and there’s only one rapture at the time of the coming of the Lord. If you’re dead in Christ, your sole is in heaven, not your corrupt flesh. You get a new body
1Co 15:53 (ESV)
53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.
there's only an elephant in your room
❤ the human spirit does not evaporate🦋God did not allow His Holy One to undergo corruption 🕊️Jesus was the 'Greater Prophet' Moses whose body Michael disputed, also was allowed to “not undergo corruption” in likeness a shadow. Moses has to wait a bit more before his is restored given a intermediate upgrade❤
Fresh as a daisy when he shows up again I reckon Life is in the Blood we are ever before God washed in His blood on the altar forever 🙌🏿
Crazy how ppl thing you ho to heaven or hellfire right away.. The Bible dose not say that at all. You only go the heaven after christ returns. Hellfire "judgment" takes place after that. The wicked will burn Intel they are ashes beneath our feet. That is it, they will be destroyed never to exist again..
@12:05 That is God's Holy Inspired answer p.e.r.i.o.d.
The dead have already risen, to be with God & Jesus either on the leftside or rightside of the gulf in Heaven, exactly how Jesus taught in His Luke 16 parable of the rich man & Lazarus.
No. We do not go back/resurrect/reincarnate back into flesh body.
Who would want to..🤔
Plus, Jesus told us no flesh or blood can enter Heaven, which God will bring down to earth as Apostle John withnessed & wrote in Revelation 21, after God rejuvenates His 3rd & final Heaven & Earth Age. God will bring down His Holy City, New Jerusalem to Mt Zion His favorite place.
We were All created, by God 1st into our Spiritual Body, made in God's own perfect image & His created Angel's, which is image of man.
Then due to Lucifer's fall from God's Grace bc, he wanted to be God & he deceived hundreds of God's Angels & a third of God's creation of mankind to follow him.
God then sentenced Lucifer & his now fallen angels, to become ashes from within in the end bc, Lucifer & hus fallen angels refused to be born AGAIN of woman through the water(*amniotic fluid) into flesh.
Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14 & (Revelation 20 God's final war with satan & All whom still choose to follow satan, when he is let loose from God's pit again, but for a shorter final time, after God's 1K years Millennium on earth)
God then formed us in our mother's womb & we were born AGAIN of woman, through the water(*amniotic fluid) into our flesh body.
All soul's return to God whom gave it & All flesh goes back to dust/clay of the earth.
There is NO pre-tribulation rapture out from satan the anti-christ.
Read Ezekiel 13:18-20 God is angry & against those who hunt souls & falsely teach His children, to fly to save their soul.
Jesus taught His Disciples when asked, what will be the signs of the end.
Jesus warned them & us, whom have read, rightly divided & discerned God's Inspired word, that He(*Jesus) saw a fallen star *satan the anti-christ.
Jesus stated ALL that are still here will see 👀 satan the anti-christ return to Jerusalem as the abomination of desolation/desolater, standing in the holy place, where it(*satan the anti-christ, the man of sin, the son of perdition) ought NOT be..Matthew 24, Mark 13 shewing himself to be God..2 Thessalonians 2. Daniel 7-12 & Revelation 6-19
Paul reiterated his 1st letter to the Thessalonians in 2 Thessalonians on when & how we gather back to Jesus. read verse 9 Even him(*Jesus), whose coming is 'after' satan, with all power & signs & lying wonders. (*God is allowing satan his powers for his tribulation return. God Promised that He would NOT force anyone to follow Him. Thus, why He gave All "free will", to choose while in flesh body whom each person wants to follow. God or satan previously named Lucifer. God's cherub Angel He appointed over Jesus Mercy Seat, which Lucifer wanted for himself & he still does.
Read Revelation 9 God is commanding satan the anti-christ what & whom he cannot touch, as well as whom he can "only" touch & torment, with his locust aka fallen angels for 5 months, during his allowed tribulation return to Jerusalem by God.
Read Revelation 12..Archangel Michael & his Angel's of God will war in heaven still to come Revelation 12:7-8 & thrown satan the anti-christ & his fallen angels out of tbe leftside of the gulf in Heaven to earth.
Thus, why God states He had to shortened satan's tribulation return, for fear NO flesh would be left.
Thus, why Jesus taught we do NOT need to premeditate what to say Mark 13:11, to satan the anti-christ bc, we are to remain quiet & welcome God's Holy Spirit into our flesh body, to witness & speak God's truth's through us, to satan & All unbelievers gathered in Jerusalem believing their lie, when they broadcast over the TV etc..that Jesus Christ has returned in Jerusalem, when it is satan the anti-christ pretending to be as Jesus Christ.
TO DENY GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT TO SPEAK IS GOD'S ONLY UNPARDONABLE SIN.
Thus, why Jesus warned US it would be like the days of Noe aka Noah. Matthew 24
Thus, why Jesus warned US, to Wait & Watch Watchman don't be the 1st to go see.. but, WAIT on His actual return, which is after satan's tribulation of deceptive lie's
Jesus is coming back down here to Jerusalem, with His Army of Saints, to throw satan in God's pit & destroy satan's fallen angels.
Thus, why Jesus showed Apostle John in Revelation 2:10(*edit), that we only have 10 days in front of satan the anti-christ, when delivered up, by our loved one's &/or friend's, to satan the anti-christ, whom will become the one world beast system ruler on earth, for a shortened time in the synagogue.
Apostle John withnessed & wrote Revelation 11, that satan the anti-christ, will unalive God's two witnesses & leave them lie in the streets 3 1/2 days.
Many will celebrate over their unalive bodies.
God will send His Holy Spirit down to wake them. They will stand up , for ALL to see & become afraid.
God will then call them back up to Him.
Thus, why we are told in a twinkling (*blink) of an eye, when Jesus returns ALL flesh will be transformed, back into our Spiritual body & flesh will fall as ashes.
ALL knees above earth, on earth & below earth, will bow, confessing Jesus is King of Kings & Lord of Lords💖💖💖
All of these PROMISES, TRUTHS, WARNINGS & SO MANY MORE ARE ALL God's Holy Inspired Immaculate Infallible words, given to & written by His Chosen Prophets, Prophetesses & specific Disciples/Apostles of Jesus Christ.
What jumbled complicated noneanswer.
Christ(the pattern)after being raised from the dead could not be "handled" for 7 days
The reunion between those raptured and those proceeding is 7 days, at least, with the reunion being a physical embrace
That would be the pattern
Them dieing a physical death
Unclean body
Raptured never tasting death
A 7 day interval, minimum
imho
When Jesus was resurrected from the tomb...the stone was rolled away. Doesn't scripture use the word "dunamis"? The resurrection power of GOD used at the resurrection? If the stone was rolled away and the wrappings that was used for Jesus in his burial in the tomb was found inside the tomb after the resurrection....doesn't that indicate to you that when the dead in Christ are resurrected...like the tomb their graves will be opened? Like Jesus their clothing will be left behind? Like Jesus resurrection there will be the "dunamis" power of GOD used to resurrect the dead? For this reason, I believe when the dead in Christ are raised first...the graves will be opened, their clothing left behind and there will be dunamis (aka as dynamite) power displayed. So where do you get your view, Mondo that the Bible does not say that the graves will be opened? I believe they will and with power that only GOD could demonstrate.
Gary’s answer lies in Luke 16:19-31; All about the rich man and Lazarus, where it tells you where believers and unbelievers go when they die before the Rapture. Hades for unbelievers, Paradise for believers.
Hi Mondo and Gary...it seems like you may be making too much of this issue...
the way I see it is God created the universes with His word. He can just say
" Karen's body soul and spirit come together! Come to Heaven with me!"
And it is done. Simple.
The word RAPTURE IS NOT IN THE BIBLE !!! The Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord! There is no RAPTURE !
the rapture is not what you think it is, The dead in Christ rise first, means those who are born again in spirit, to be born again in spirit you must die to self, meaning you are no longer part of the matrix system, you are operating in kingdom of God system. The world is past and a new world is created in you , Jesus said Abide in me and I will abide in you, Jesus Christ spirit is resurrected in you. read Lazareth, Jesus himself said to Mary Lazareth's sister, she said to Jesus, I believe you are the christ and I know that the dead shall rise on the last day, Jesus turned to her and said "I AM THE RESURRECTION" Those who remain alive, will not see death til the coming of the son of man. You must die spiritually to see Jesus. In the sermon on the mount, Jesus said, many of you will not see death til you see the son of man coming in a cloud, a cloud is a group of followers, his glory is in spirit, GOD IS SPIRIT. So it shall be on earth as it is in heaven. THE WHOLE EARTH IS FILLED With his GLORY. IT IS YOUR SPIRIT.
But what was with Elijah? GOD took him from Earth to heaven and Elijah had not to die - the same Enoch - are this fairy tales? ❤
@@loveisallyouneed5877 he was taken up because what he spoke and believed that he would not die,which is the heaven system. Faith is the things hoped for. God is in heaven a system of the kingdom of God. A whirlwind and chariots of fire took him a different realm . Earth is also God's footstool. The kingdom of God is another dimension. A whirlwind is a portal. Heaven is another reality of which God's throne resides. Heaven and earth are one before the fall of man. Even creation itself was transformed when the fall of man happened. That is why in the book of revelation at the very end the angels cry holy holy holy the whole EARTH is filled with his glory. All is one . This world we live in now is a counterfeit before the heaven and earth was created. If you read Genesis in great detail it explains the fall of man. God is one with all , we are one with God. The entire bible is a giant parable because everything takes place in the spirit. King David is the example of Christ in us. For kind David said my Lord said to my Lord, he is validating the Christ in us before Christ sacrificed. Moses is the same. Heaven and earth are one. No where in the bible rapture is mentioned. To be taken up is in spirit not physical body. The temple is not the body it is your mind. Jesus said what is flesh is flesh and what is spirit is spirit. The spirit of God in man is the new Jerusalem.