ALGAE TABLETS! DO THEY WORK? LET'S FIND OUT!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- I recently discovered these algae tablets. Do they really work? Or are they just a waste of money?
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Materials that I used to create this jungle style aquascape
AQUARIUM
Beta Line Nano 40, 40x30x30 cm (not for sale anymore)
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FILTRATION
JBL e701 canister filter
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SUBSTRATE
Aquario NEO Soil
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HARDSCAPE
Wood is called Trunk Tree, no link unfortunately
Rock is Seiryu
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GLUE
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It's selfish for me to say but thank you for being a voluntary lab rat when it comes to algae products!😭 Keep these types of videos going, they could help and save a lot of people in the hobby!
You are very welcome! 😁
Your English is great! When I lived in the Netherlands for 3 years I found that most Dutch people spoke really good English! Keep up the great videos! I like watching them because it also reminds me of my time over there. Great country!
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. Really like this kind of content cause there are so many products out there and you never know what's a scam.
Yes please! Please make a video of the process of trimming this beautiful scape. A lot to learn from im that for sure.
Would be interested in seeing how you ended up dealing with this. Thanks for sharing the results.
This is a great video. No one else is putting out content like this. Keep it up!
Makenthat cleanup video for sure. And if you try another chemical try algae fix from API! loving the videos!
Thank you mate for sharing the testing of this product, very informative. Will not waste money for such product which is not effective. Have a nice day~
Yup, would love a video on removing algae and your steps when dealing with them :)
I'm sure he has one!
@@jakey02578 yup, i know that, but wouldn't mind another demonstration. It's great to see the little tips and tricks that everybody develops over time.
Maybe you should do the maintenance and 3 take water samples for testing (1. before trimming & stiring up the soil, 2. before waterchange and 3. after te water change). I'm really curious what happens with the phosphate and the nitrate levels during maintenance.
Really enjoy (and learned) from your channel. I'm into the hobby since 4 months and I'm putting in a real learning effort to understand the hobby better. Succes! 👍
You're doing great things for the hobby. Thank you.
Blackout the Tank: in my 20 gallon planted tank I added Amano shrimp, Ottos, Siamese Algae Eaters, and American Flag Fish. The Flag Fish ate the thread algae in the first 24 hours, but I still had tons of hair algae, dust algae and lots of horrible Black Beard Algae. So I blacked out the tank with cardboard and black towels for four days. All the algae died and the plants, fish, and shrimp were fine. I trimmed off most of the leaves with the dead BBA and it hasn’t come back.
No reason to use chemicals if a 4-day blackout works so well.
Yes please, take us along for this battle!
I'm using seachem excel to keep algae at bay plus eheim reeflex uv light for 30 minutes on Thursday, Friday, Saturday to kill water floating algae spores, its connected to Tapo smart socket and programmed to work that way so I don't even have to remember to switch it on and off. Every Sunday about 35- 40% water change. I have occasionally some spots of algae but nothing major.
I do fertalise with seachem products but only half of recommended dose.
You are doing great job with your videos and I've learned a lot from you. Greetings from Poland. 👍🏻
Yeah definitely make a video about that! 😍 btw: How do you buy the plants from dennerle? I can’t find it anywhere. 🤔
I get my plants for free from Dennerle (sponsored) You can't buy directly from them unless you are a business. There are a lot of shops in NL who sell dennerle plants (Hornbach for example)
what is that larger red fish that is near the tablet when you first dropped them in?? so beautiful! as always, we appreciate your dedication! thank you for showing your research steps and calling the company service number. my #1 aquarist on youtube
That's the Scarlet Badis! One of my favorite nano fish
@@MJAquascaping Could you make a video on how to deep clean debris from soil. Especially below densely planted background rotalas like that
@@bkbabu1413 you pretty much don't. The only way to clean debris from the soil in a planted area is to gently fan water into the soil from a distance to kick up debris out of the soil and into the water column and then change the water. Could also use a syringe or baster to gently blow the detritus out into the water and then do a water change. Either way you have to be very gentle and you will never get it all out.
@@bkbabu1413 This video gives a great example of how to remove some of the detritus from a planted tank: ua-cam.com/video/_XzN3yjCaL4/v-deo.html
@@TeddyB_RP my problem is is not with the foreground plants it's with the dense background plants
Its work. I use this producent last week and algi are disipiree on 80%
I would love to see a video on 2hr Aquarist APT Fix. Since it's a newer product there are very few reviews on it.
Really interesting video. It's a great way of showing peoples test results of products, to its potential customers.
The video is interesting. I used once an algae cleaning product from Tetra and I didn't see too much changes, except for shrimp suffering, it was a disaster. Yep, I'd like to watch a nice cleaning session of this 40L. Cheers.
@MJ Aquascaping There are a lot of aquarium channels that essentially do nothing but add and remove fish. Fish unboxing dressed up as love for the hobby when they're really just using the "add new fish" for content. I watched one channel where the way to fix algae was to "Stir the sand" and then add some chemicals... While of course he unboxed / added new fish after getting rid of the fish he got last month.
I say all that to say this... MJ Aquascaping is one of the few aquarium channels on youtube where the focus is the actual hobby and the biology of the tanks. So yeah lol use that tank to showcase the ridiculousness that's in the hobby while dropping some knowledge. Chemicals to fix issues instead of addressing the root cause is one such teachable moment.
I know what you mean....There is one channel where there's just one giggle after another. Then he never invests his intellect to offer anything other than the surface elements of what information he's passing on ... but he's very successful. I don't get it
@@heaven7360 M D?
The only two algae treatments I've ever found to work are 2HR Aquarist APT Fix and Chemiclean Aquarium Treatment for Red Cyanobacteria. APT Fix is incredible, BBA entirely gone in a week, the Chemiclean entirely banished Cyanobacteria in no time too.
Keep the tank as it is and experiment on each of these useless chemical algae fixes as a lesson. It'd be a great series.
I do like that idea!
Not sure if I totally agree with the sentiment. I had a long battle with BGA and erythromycin (along with all the non-chemical work I was doing) finally ended it. No Planaria is used used frequently by the shrimp community. H2O2 and glutaraldehyde are well known algaecides.
Not saying there aren't a lot of snake oil products out there, just saying that categorically casting them to the curb might not be the way to go.
@@peadookie Antibiotics should not be added to the tank, sorry, lots of reasons, and also hey are illegal for this purpose in the UK and EU. Filters need bacteria, broad spectrum antibiotics kill most common bacteria. Love a bacteriologist to contribute.
@@williammcdowell6257 I'm certainly familiar with the idea that beneficial bacteria can be affected, but erythromycin is an extremely common treatment here in the US for quarantining and/or sick fish, and I've personally used it successfully. I can see how one might be nervous about it, but unless you can list reasons I'm not aware of, I'm not sure the "shouldn't" really applies.
However, you have a great point that I hadn't considered - the availability of EM in the US as an OTC vet med is not true of the EU and other places.
@@peadookie Thanks for that, in a quarantine tank where filter health isn't a prime consideration I know that some diseases of fish can be effectively and safely treated this way. And my post needed qualified, I was writing about using antibiotics for algae control, specialist Vets in the UK will, at some cost prescribe for fish farms, retailers when necessary.
In the UK erythromycin is not a first line of response antibiotic for humans, medics here reserve it for pneumonia and hard to treat infections.
For a planted community tank, even for disease, I'm not sure a Vet would prescribe in the UK or EU.
Sensible and prompt and polite response from you, appreciated, most people are polite, thoughtful and helpful on this site, which is great.
Great topic, might be worth exploring further.
Great idea. I can't seem to get rid of green hair or string algae in both of my tanks I have separate tools for each aquarium as to not cross contaminate each other my 6 gallon cherry shrimp tank is the worst and I can do daily water changes with no or little affect it may be to heavily planted I used 3 , 1-2 grow cups of s rappens and two different A.R.
GREAT VIDEO 👍 keep them coming 👍
Would love to see the maintenance you do for this tank this weekend as I have a lot of the same issues in my tank 😔
If only we could solve problems like this with tablets……I think I will use tried and true maintenance processes. Thanks for your research. Your vids are always fun and very informative. Keep them coming 😎
wait these are for tanks. i ate a few accidentally and i turned into a lesser spotted terror bird. always have them with my cereal nowadays
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Red Shrimps works for me very well. Great video
Nice test. Hope to continue with others algaecides for a better conclusion. In my experience tetra algumin plus does great job with green algaes especially with filamentous. Clean all my aquarium with first time use.
Thanks for sharing!
Some hair algae (first brown then green) popped up in my 29g planted after I stopped using Seachem Excel, not really a fan of using chems on a regular basis but I think Im going to include it again in my schedule.
Thanks for another educational video!
You should look at the root cause. Hair algae (Oedogonium sp.) is often caused by too much light given the amount of nutrients and CO2 you provide. You need to check if you have no nutrient or CO2 deficiency and if the CO2 leves are stable during the day. Reducing the light is the first step. Regular glutaraldehyde should never be a solution.
To be fairly testing you should stick to the manual fully. It would be interesting to see what products have an effect and what not.
Use any type of liquid carbon for aquarium, the best and safe way to kill algea
In my experience I've had success utilizing SeaChem products that add liquid carbon as well as a polymer that reduces phosphates (key to stunting). I combined this with high dosing of Co2, light reduction of course H20 changes and an algae scrubber (I'm wavering back and forth on scrubber). Focus on reducing the source instead of an Rx to kill what will return because conditions never change. Just IMHO.
Glutaraldehyde (wrongly labelled as "liquid carbon", because its contribution to CO2 is irrelevant) works against algae since it is a very toxic biocide. But it will also poison everything else in the tank in the process - it causes severe neurological damage to animals. Note that the livestock will be exposed to toxic levels way before you start seeing any signs. This is why glutaraldehyde should only be used directly on top of algae (during maintenance and when the plants or rocks are not submersed). It should not be used in the water column. As you said, you should focus on the source (CO2 and nutrient stability, water flow, balance between light, CO2 and nutrients, etc.) Otherwise, keep glutaraldehyde well away from the tank and use only in emergencies directly against BBA, but never in the water column.
Thanks for your video. Which kind of killi is the one of the aquarium of the video?
Could you make a video on how to deep clean debris from soil. Especially below densely planted background rotalas like that
The only chemical stuff I use for killing algae is from the brand Azoo Plus Algae Away. It really works like magic. I put the dosage just like the instruction manual and the next day the hair algae turn white and died the rest just got cleaned up by my Amano Shrimp. It is safe for my fish, snail and shrimp. PS. at that time I even plug out my co2 to see that it really works.
You are missing the point. It is quite easy to kill algae using herbicides and algaecides and there are dozens of products that can be used for that purpose. The problem is that many of them are too toxic to use in a tank and can harm fish and invertebrates. For example, Copper (Cu) based algaecides are used in pools and ponds and are very effective. However, if you use a Cu-based algaecide , the toxic copper will kill any snails and some shrimp species that you put on it, even if you wait several years. That Azoo product has no safety data sheet and no list of ingredients. If it contains 3-5% copper, then it will definitely kill several algae. But use it at your own risk.
@@ampac chill dude tbh, i'm saying this based on my personal experience. I don't agree with using chemical to remove algae as well just like MJ said. Used this kind of product on last reserve. Not all people in this hobby got all that time to do all those research causing imbalance in their tank therefore causing algae issues. I've been using azoo product ever since I start this hobby and never had any problems. All my fishes and shrimp are thriving. Even my neo berried every once in a day so your statement is nonsense without you even trying the product.
@@awoogaz If it works for you then fine. But please do not generalize. Aquarium algaecides are usually ineffective against algae or harmful for livestock. The Azoo product has no list of ingredients and no safety data sheet on their webpage. So, use it at your own risk.
@@ampac I do not generelize. Like I said I commented based on my personal experience and I used the product for over 3 years and it seems no problem in the long run. I think you're the one generelizing their product based on your opinion without even trying it so what you said is invalid before you try the product itself. Please don't get me wrong here nothing beat the feeling of defeating the algae with the natural way knowing the cause of the problems, from my previous comment not all people in these hobby got their hands and time researching the algae problems, that's why all of these product exist for our convinience. For me aquascaping shouldn't be complicated with numbers and data as long you're enjoying it and your fish and plants are healthy go for it. Peace and happy scaping.
It would be interesting to see if any of the products on the market actually work 🤔
The answer is no. Nothing beats weekly water changes and regular maintenance😃
@@JC_303 he means as extra help for anti algae
Apt fix, and aquael algae fix sachets, those work but mainly by limiting nutrients in aquael case, while APT fix is direct application poison.
@@emberframe6994 so do I, the best way to combat algea is prevention :)
@@JC_303 definitely but sometimes to clean of any that has grown you need to kill it
Can you try Algexit from Easy Life?
If possible try lifting your light a little higher from the tank, it might cut down on the algae some.
I think you are entirely missing the point... if you follow MJ, then you should know that this tank is usually algae free. He intentionally skipped maintenance to trigger the algae. This product is supposedly an algaecide. If it worked, then the position of lights wouldn't have mattered. It didn't.
Hey man, love your review. I am on the same path as you as was wondering if you in the end found the magic cure?
Would love to see a maintenance video!
"Harmful to aquatic life with long lasting effects" lol 2:01
Hello everybody. Great video. Thanks for showing us the experience. I personally don't believe in these types of products. Thanks.
Please make a video when you are trimming moss
I`m now trying Alga Away from ArkaAquatics. I just dosed one of my aquariums yesterday. Curious to see what will happen. :)
Nice! let me know if it works
I bought a few new plants recently and despite cleaning them they brought in a particularly nasty variety of cyanobacteria. It is slowly dying back but won't go away regardless of water conditions. So I've been looking at something called ultralife blue green slime stain remover. I don't normally use any chemicals so I'm hesitant, but from what other people say it seems to work well.
Nice magic tablets 👍🏻
Interesting - yes, I worry about chemicals too, but a while back had bad hair algae in my 34L tank, and after a lot of searching just plumped for eSHa Protalon-707 which worked great (two liquids to add in a rota). Also reduced lighting time. 😉 Would still like to see a tank cleaning video though.
lol at the mono part 🤣 I'm a farmer and we use linuron on a wide array of situations where weed control is needed and never has it worked on algae that grows inside the glasshouse. I know this cause one day I tried spraying it. didn't kill it. it's fake bro. snake oil aha...
you're a great teacher and I admire how you plant the seed into the viewers minds. there's no magic pill 👏
much respect buddy
Algae are aquatic life as well, so if it kills algae i'm sure they must put the warning label on the packaging. Killing a big portion of algae in a natural river or lake could have long lasting effects on the ecosystem too.
You could try Algae Clean Out by Fritz for hair algae. It works wonderfully though it can damaged some plants like Echinodorus or Crypts
Thanks! I will look into it!
I would like to see the result of recovering this aquarium back to it's intended aesthetic for sure!
Don’t give up on the experiment, you tried chemicals why not try all other options to get rid of algae. Fish vs. shrimp, algae eaters vs. snails etc and the best combinations. I use tadpoles. Another great video well done.
I don't like chemicals, but then my tank is setup right next to a big glass door. So I understand the need to sometimes... Looking into UV- algea killing atm...
I tried hydrogen peroxide which works pretty good be careful not to over dose it kills vals pretty quickly but they always bounce back. I usually use 3% 5ml per 10 gal. Great vids love the experiments. I wanted to try your yeast CO2 recipe but was wondering if I can use the JELLO fruit packs the one you make for kids or will that kill the yeast.
Maintenance video would be good.
hay mj i found a brilliant algae remover its from "plant essential black beard remover and other nuisance algae". and it does not upset your livestock.
Nice! I will check it out!
@@MJAquascaping thanx mate but i do agree with you though as we should maintain our fishtanks insted of having to use chemicals.
I wonder if it would work better on a tank without any plants but with a log with hair algae on it? Maybe the plants are filtering the chemical out of the water?
The only one that actually worked for me is Ultra life blue green slime.
Very nice video but I think this is a long term treatment, if it would have results after just one week they would defo put that on the box! :)
Hi MJ, i have a question. i am just about to start aquascaping and i was wondering if the Dennerle scapers soil is anygood? i have a dennerle 60l tank now and need to raise it a lot... any suggestion on how to do that without using 40l of soil haha... i was thinking about lava split. gz from Eindhoven
Hey Dennis!
If you are new to Aquascaping the Dennerle soil is great because it's releasing a lot less ammonia and nutrients in the beginning compared to other brands.
And yeah great idea to go with lava split if you want to raise the substrate in the back.
Thnx for the fast response ! Love your channel btw. Yours and green aqua are my favorite.
Can you make a video about getting rid of GDA? I’ve had it in my aquarium for a year now and need to do a complete maintenance session each week in order to keep my aquarium in top shape.
After adding 1st dosage, if you dont see any changes in next 30 days tou need to add again same dosage. It fixed my problem but it doesn't fix it in 3 days, if you want algae removal in 1 to 3 days then you should use algae removal for sweemingpools but it will also remove anything alove inside tank... lol... And yes there is manual for that and it says you have to wait 30 days if no changes do it again...
Where did you get that a nano glass skimmer? Ive only seen full size or plstic ones, thanks!
This is the one amzn.to/34APavh
I have a bottle of APT-fix by 2hr aquarist lying around as a backup but have been fortunate enough no to have to use it. After seeing this video I am skeptical about this working during an outbreak 🤨 🤔 🧐
I believe APT-fix is similar to Seachem Excel? With that I always had good results.
@@MJAquascaping is that right? I always hear great results for excel so now I'm relieved!
Please make a video I got a same problem don't know how to fix it it's heavy planted
I'd watch any aquarium video you do, so go ahead pal😂👍
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Nerite snails..they have cleaned up a lot of brown algae in 2 days..
I have tried a few different algae treatments and none work. I watched your videos about phosphates being too high for green algae and added phosguard into the folter yesterday hopefully helps me out a bit. Do you have any videos on your fertilisation routines?
maybe just spot dose some seachem excel and do a water change would help.
Oh absolutely!
amazing sharing .. thanks for all sharing
Yeah I've tried Monolinuron on a couple of my tanks, never seems to do much. Cladophora, hair algae, bba, none were affected by it. Maybe it affects diatoms or green dust algae... but for me at the dose recommended it had no effect.
Ah good to know! Thanks for sharing
Bonjour mark, comme d'habitude vidéo intéressante et surtout des sujets qui permettent d'accroître mes connaissances d'aquariophile. Tu confirme bien que ses produits chimiques sont juste de l'argent jeté par la fenêtre. Merci encore hate pour la prochaine vidéo.
To all the algae-murdering experts out there, does anyone have an effective weapon against cladophora? got some in a tank, probably came in on some moss. It's growing in much of the moss now. Flourish Excel + manual removal is damaging the moss more than the cladophora, it's been a month and i'd say the situation got worse. And i've read that blackouts dont help. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Calling them... "Wij van WCeend " always dodgy to trust the helpdesk :)
To combat algae, I am happy with Seachem excel.
You can use API algaefix instead.
Unfortunately, many of these products fail. My advice to you is to take the fish to another aquarium. Use 250 mg of antibiotics sold for humans by dissolving them in water for 3-4 days. Then do a water change and filter cleaning. The problem will disappear very soon.
Antibiotics are strictly controlled in the EU and the UK (and are prescription only from a Doctor or Vet) and should never be used this way, it may build up antibiotic resistance in the environment. It is illegal to knowingly add antibiotics to the water course in the UK. Goodness knows what antibiotics do to the filter bacteria, lots of common bacteria in the environment can cause illness and death in mammals if they get in the bloodstream. Anyone with more science than me who cares to explain, I'd appreciate it.
@@williammcdowell6257 I live in Turkey. Here, too, only a doctor or veterinarian can write. I used the leftover antibiotic prescribed for my dog. There are only plants in the aquarium, no living things. If you pay attention, I already said take the fish to another tank.
@@hakankucuk3168 You did, no offence meant, but it is still inappropriate (and in the UK illegal) to use prescribed drugs in this way. And you still have the issue of filter bacteria wipe-out which cleaning will not address, removing the fish is rather beside the point, antibiotics will not kill them (unless the dose is absolutely massive), antibiotics are 'magic bullets', they target bacteria. Right water quality, right light and CO2 will address all algae issues given enough time, in over 50 years of keeping fish and plants never had to strip a tank down or use antibiotics to treat algae. Enjoy the hobby, best wishes.
@@williammcdowell6257 Thank you. However, I encountered the blue-green algae problem for the first time, and every measure I tried was insufficient. I used it for the first time and got results. I can't have destroyed the bacterial culture forever. I think it will rebalance.
When Tetra themselves don't know how exactly their product should be used 😂
They better stick to making filters, those are good and affordable.
this can remove the cloudy green water?
Ich finde deine Videos klasse 👍- Leider kann ich nicht gut englisch 😩- Bitte 🙏geht es mit Untertitel????
Hope you are doing well
WAIT!!... You should change half the water, since you doubled the dose in only 4 days, not weeks.. Save your fish!
(you know, the sentence about Harmful to aquatic life... with effects that are long lasting...)
It's an Herbicide, as well... save your plants!
I have a question, my Pogestemon helferi has whitish new growth that looks otherwise good, and I have quite a bit of staghorn algae (grey and thick, not bushy like black beard) as well as some cladophora hair algae (but I've had that before). Should I just use more Iron ferts or change something else?
Check your nitrate and iron levels!
I used the tetra liquid alque remover and when i came back a couple hours all my shrimp and snails had died, idk if it had to do with the tank not having a filter(meaning water movement) but its was supposed to be safe
sorry to hear that...
Интересует!
The warning is probably trying to say that releasing it into the environment would harm the ecosystem. Killing algae would be very bad for wildlife, as many native species eat it
That would make sense yes
For the "harmful to aquatic life with long lasting effect" I think it should be because it's a photosynthesis inhibitors for algae (not the same proteins used by algae to photosynthesise compared to plants so it's possible to target those and not penalise the angiosperms ("superior" plants) or bryophytes (mosses) in recommended doses. And algae are the bases of a lot of aquatic ecosystems so if you remove algae in nature you are definitely harming the aquatic environment... So safe in aquarium but not to be thrown in a stream! 😁
But it maybe another reason, that's the one I'm thinking of...
(just watched the end) inhibiting the photosynthesis is just starving them so if they have a lot of reserves it may perhaps take long to kill them (but they should not be growing). Moreover in planted tanks we have strong lights so maybe even with a heavily impaired photosynthesis what remains is sufficient for them to cling to life. Lastly we do a lot more water changes than the average aquarist so we dilute the product quickly.
I would say that it may be useful for us with the goal of preventing algae to come back after a problem or to prevent them from appearing if you foresee a huge perturbation of your tank ecosystem.
So maybe useful as another tool but we already spend so more time and energy on our tank than mister everyone and bubble the fish, it may be not able to make a difference for a tank with few problems (a lot algae for us is not a lot for the average people ^^) ...
Again these are just hypothesis! No time to do a proper scientific experiment with control tank and all that! 😁
Hi MJ, can you try dosing 1 tablet of Erythromycin on this tank?
Wat met zwarte alg bijna niet te verwijderen
It doesn't look like 40 litres
I hope within 10 years we have tablets for CO2 and algae just like we have tablets for soil nutrition ! It would be so easy and motivating to know that you don't need to do much to get rid of any algae or add any extra CO2 for plants!
Let me ask you an uncomfortable question: did you Photoshop your finger longer in the thumbnail? Are you setting unrealistic body standards for aquarists?
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Secheam excel all the way
Majorly all are snake oils!
Dont think it will work
first minute, i bet it didn't work :)
aaaaand i was right, there's no magical cure for algae, just hard work and a little bit of luck :)
Exactly!
First View!
Whoop!
Thanks for doing this video.Please continue looking for an algae killer that works.I enjoy your videos.👍😊🐸