Sonos Sub Mini full review and the Sub Gen 3 should be very afraid…

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  • @chrisslivar3312
    @chrisslivar3312 Рік тому +5

    Holy Cow! I received my Sub Mini yesterday, pairing with Arc, and wow, am I impressed! You were right! In my small apartment, I can't imagine having the Sub Gen 3. The mini at standard levels was incredible! Music especially felt dramatically enhanced. I wanted a system where I could enjoy equally music and movie experience, without overwhelming neighbors, or even my experience!.....Well, the sub mini delivered! Base was clear, deep and precise, in all the right places for both music and movie application. A must buy if you're either in a small place or don't want to be overwhelmed. It's not so mini! That was something I was really afraid would happen, that I would it wouldn't be enough, and I would make a mistake and regret it. I am really impressed and it delivered like I wanted it to. Thanks Peter!

  • @Hilltan1974
    @Hilltan1974 Рік тому +98

    Your videos have been getting more and more polished and slick, aside from your always very detailed reviews, it’s great to see you’ve upped your editing game.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +4

      Glad you like them! I really appreciate the feedback!

    • @SGAndyAng
      @SGAndyAng Рік тому

      @@PeterPee Ya, with all the Plug-ins. Nice! From MotionVFX?

    • @danielchapter70128
      @danielchapter70128 Рік тому

      @@PeterPee great video! Hey can I please ask: I recently ordered and received the White Sub Gen 3 (to pair with my Beam 2), and it’s Gloss white. Not Matte white. Does this mean it’s a Sub Gen 2 that they sent me?

    • @danielchapter70128
      @danielchapter70128 Рік тому

      @@PeterPee also… I don’t care about my neighbor, (just kidding.. I turned it up 70% volume and went outside near the property line and cannot hear anything hardly).. but the Sub Gen 3 DEFINITELY outclasses that poor little Beam 2… so I’m still in the return window and considering returning to Best Buy and upgrading to the Arc… thoughts??

  • @michaelleong8230
    @michaelleong8230 Рік тому +30

    We all know Peter is gonna review the heck out of the Mini and will share information not found elsewhere. Quality content as always, and all the best at your live video this Sunday!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Michael! Always appreciative of your support!

  • @arcane-elysium
    @arcane-elysium Рік тому +13

    Your channel has grown in quality so much over the years man! Come to you first for any Sonos content. Keep up the great work!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your very kind words and support Marian!

  • @peterhelbers9169
    @peterhelbers9169 Рік тому +3

    Dear Peter, thank you for your advice. I have replaced my YAMAHA RX-V657 AV Receiver - Surround 7.1 with small KEF KHT 1005 speakers for the SONOS ARC - 2x ERA 300 and bought, after 2 weeks, the SUB-mini. (Had to convince my wife LOL) I can only confirm your observation and technical analysis. The SUB-mini fits perfectly and provides the good base sound balance which suits the size of my living room. Greetings from Belgium.

    • @Pcar_dad6733
      @Pcar_dad6733 10 місяців тому

      Considering same setup as yours

  • @tedgifford1627
    @tedgifford1627 Рік тому +7

    This review was a seller for the mini to my application.
    Well rounded, small size for a small room, tight response, expensive but still budget accessible to work with the beam gen 2. Super easy to setup with the existing beam g2.
    The mini greatly enhanced the experience for my applications. Almost to the mind blowing difference that really freed up the beams performance. A huge sell.....
    Thanks for the review

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      I am glad to have you on board!

  • @davidthanos
    @davidthanos Рік тому +3

    One of the most detailed guys in UA-cam. It always boggles me why he doesn't have more subscribers

    • @jorges6104
      @jorges6104 Рік тому +1

      Boggles? Good term. I would go with Bamboozled. Lol

  • @filb911
    @filb911 Рік тому +9

    Just got my Sub Mini today to go with my Beam gen 2 and Ikea surrounds. It absolutely booms bass and I can feel it in my bones! Almost got a Sub gen 3 but this is more than enough. Tried with Armageddon, Transformers and Matrix movies. Music improved dramatically too. God Tier!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      GOD TIER indeed! I really loved that guy if your space doesn't need more.

    • @jedlomax100
      @jedlomax100 Рік тому

      I am thinking of this exact setup. My room is quite small. So you'd recommend?

    • @filb911
      @filb911 Рік тому +1

      @@jedlomax100 Defo. I've gone from a large wired higher end solution to a more simple wireless one and I love it. The only downside is I keep thinking someone is at the door with the surrounds ;)

  • @cpg8000
    @cpg8000 Рік тому +18

    Looks fantastic. Sonos really has a grip on this area of audio. I just wish they would invest a bit more into refining sound quality. These things leave me feeling “cold” with shrill sound. Anyway, as usual, Peter’s reviews are second to none!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for your kind support there!

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh Рік тому

      They sound great on cafes I guess :)

    • @Laptopdog78
      @Laptopdog78 Рік тому

      @@RennieAsh “sound great on cafes”??……What is your point?

  • @soldbyharry
    @soldbyharry Рік тому +2

    I just purchased an Arc and found the bass a little lite for both movies and music. Most reviews recommend only using the Gen 3 sub with the Arc, but being a very conscientious neighbor and somewhat frugal, I decided against adding a sub. Your review solved my dilemma with the Mini Sub.
    Thanks for a very thorough and understandable review.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Рік тому

      I pinched the sub mini from my living room setup (beam plus one surrounds) for my cinema room setup (just replaced Panasonic sound bar + Panasonic sub with an Arc) temporarily until I get my Sub Gen 3 (just have to sneak the spend past the wife)- it's a fairly large room - around 5x7 meters with a cathedral roof - but the mini does an admirable job. Fortunately my neighbors are a fair way away so no issues there, so I will definitely go sub gen 3, but for now it's very enjoyable.

  • @stephencosta6814
    @stephencosta6814 Рік тому +2

    You are the best Sonos reviewer out there so much good information your channel is extremely valuable. Thank you so much and you have a great way of speaking to make everybody understand.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Thanks for this Stephen!

  • @About_Jack
    @About_Jack Рік тому +4

    Hi Peter! Well done, great review. I bought both the Sub Gen 3 and the Mini, deciding to keep the Gen 3 because it is more performing for watching movies, with more present and thunderous bass. So I returned the Sub Mini. The sub is in a surround system together with Beam 2 and 2 One SL, all in a 25 square meters room. In daily listening I realize that, perhaps due to the small environment, the Gen 3 is very invasive, not so much for watching movies, but especially for listening to music, where sometimes it is almost too present and leads me to lower it by a couple of points. Now I'm thinking of buying a Sub Mini again to retest it properly because it makes no sense to have so much power if I then have to lower it, better than to increase the smoother bass of a Mini, also considering the physical dimensions and the better aesthetics of the smaller sub.

  • @Reflection_Wave
    @Reflection_Wave Рік тому +2

    Thanks for review by the time mini sub announced I already fall in love with the design. I will get one.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Good choice! Thanks for your kind support!

  • @nicolocolai9228
    @nicolocolai9228 6 місяців тому

    I just got the Sub Mini and oh boy why didn't I get that way before!? It's one of the best investment I have done to my Sonos system. I have paired to two Play:1 and the music and bass from that system had put a great smile on my face when listening to music. The music just sounds so much better! And the bass is touching! Got damn, so much fun and joy to my ears. Will recommend everybody to get the Sub Mini to really take their Sonos system to the next level!

  • @dorriesmith2177
    @dorriesmith2177 Рік тому +1

    Just got the sub mini and paired with my beam gen 2 and 2 SL Ones's. My room is 12.6 by 20.6 ft. Trying to explain the quality of sound is a little difficult. The bass doesn't take over it just becomes immersive and blends seamlessly with the rest of the speakers to give a sound quality that is truly remarkable. If you want a bass that's going to shake and rattle the walls this is not what you need, get the sub gen 3. But if it's quality sound for movies and music that is just right this is the speaker for you. Many said adding the sub mini makes the beam gen 2 sound even better as it is not trying to put out bass and just worries with the mid-range and highs and they are spot on. This is one of the best purchases I have made to complete the sound with my sonos system.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Yes. What you are describing is like perfect bass/sub integration. Sealed subs are a little easier to integrate. And when well integrated you will find yourself wondering how come all the bass is coming out from the sound bar or speakers. You won’t be able to localised where the sub is.

  • @finch4336
    @finch4336 Рік тому +9

    Next level of editing prowess. Very slick, Pete. Twenty four minutes of the meaty Sonos details we desire.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Hey Finch! Thanks for this and I appreciate!

  • @andreyvyasenya
    @andreyvyasenya Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video! Would love to see how Sonos Arc, Sun Mini and the IKEA Lamp Speakers all go together but so happy found your channel!

  • @madebyshaan
    @madebyshaan Місяць тому

    Amazing video! I almost never comment but this was a super helpful video and love your technical knowledge. Learned many new things.

  • @ke5943
    @ke5943 Рік тому +2

    Outstanding work! This video was so comprehensive and so well thought out covering so many setups. You are fantastic at what you do!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Thanks for your compliments!

  • @user-vj5lj4yw2b
    @user-vj5lj4yw2b Рік тому +2

    Peter, thank you for your review! I have ordered the Gen 3 a week ago.. Now i might reconsider my decision..

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +3

      It depends on the room size. If you can spare the cash and the space for the bigger sub the gen 3 is definitely more powerful. Unless you are placing it in a small to average size room.

  • @mattwatson3721
    @mattwatson3721 Рік тому +1

    This is something I have been wanting for a while, I am so glad I did not get another Sonos sub. We have multiple Sonos devices and only one sub in the living room. I have wanted another for the bedroom. I even moved our Sonos sub there for a while, but it did not work out well. Too loud if my wife fell asleep, and too pricey to only be used sometimes. My wife also is not thrilled with the size and finish. This seems to check off all the boxes.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Put a pair of earrings on top. She’ll love it.

  • @chrisslivar3312
    @chrisslivar3312 Рік тому

    Hands down one of the best Sub mini/ sub gen 3 reviews out there for pairing with the Arc! Thanks for helping me with all the questions and thoughts I had on whether to go with the sub mini or not! I'm in a small apartment and listen 50% music, 50% movies, and you made it easier to decide. I've just purchased the sub-mini and can't wait to hear it in my own environment. Thank you!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      With music, you will feel that it is better. :)

    • @FurtherProductionz
      @FurtherProductionz 9 місяців тому +1

      What’s your experience and opinion on the arc + sub mini combo?

  • @speedRacer05
    @speedRacer05 Рік тому +3

    Peter....You just get better and better.
    I fall in the group that likes the amount of bass my Gen3 produces. I'm looking forward to adding a second Gen 3 to fill my open-concept room evenly. 🤞

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Aiyoh, I am so flattered. Thank you!

  • @GI-Jim
    @GI-Jim Рік тому +2

    This is one of the best product reviews I've ever seen. Thank you!

  • @JT-ol5xo
    @JT-ol5xo 5 місяців тому

    You reassured me and I'm going to get one. They're on sale at the moment here in the U.S.

  • @smoehrke3243
    @smoehrke3243 Рік тому +2

    Thank you Peter! I am already convinced! I have the Arc and was worried they would not go well together but this has reassured me! I am the 50/50 category :D Thanks again!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +2

      Go for it! The recording was done with an arc! Yes UA-cam compresses it and so many recording factors that will deteriorate the sound but you get a good idea of how it sounds relative to each other. And also, the spectrum analyser should give you a good visual indication!

  • @gwloo
    @gwloo Рік тому

    Bought it after watching your video. Solid buy, yes. Absolutely. Living room of 20x20ft, paired to a Beam2, there's more than ample bass to go around and my equalizer is only set to+3. Mini? What mini? The bass "boom" is felt at all rooms in the house... and also by my neighbours. I have to turn on night mode after 11pm.

  • @franknormaniii3266
    @franknormaniii3266 Рік тому

    I have never said this before for any UA-cam producer. I am putting you in my 2022 budget

  • @vladislavgaitukaev3919
    @vladislavgaitukaev3919 Рік тому +1

    Dear Peter, thanks for all your reviews. Perhaps I should watch this video a few more times, because there is a lot of information you have analyzed and presented here. Basically I prefer to listen to music.
    I have a fairly expensive ProAc Response based Hi-Fi stereo system, but I don't listen to it all the time because I have to sit down, select music, turn everything on (and put your phone away) and then enjoy. It takes time and mood, which I don't always have.
    That's why I listen to Sonos all day and night.
    Let me describe my Sonos configuration. I have an Arc + 2 Sonos One for the movie in the sittng room. And 2 Fives + Sub Gen 3 for music in another room. I use 2 Fives with Sub Gen 3 and I'm happy with the everyday music and almost happy with the bass, it is deep, powerfool but it's not very dynamic. I also feel that Arc lacks bass a bit when I watch movies. What should I do? Buy Sub Mini and connect with Arc? Or connect Arc with Gen 3, and Fives with Sub Mini?
    My head is exploding with options.
    Thank you in advance for your opinion.

    • @kevinortiz28
      @kevinortiz28 Рік тому +1

      im in the same boat as you man. This sub mini looks nice and i also have an arc + 2 SL one speakers

    • @vladislavgaitukaev3919
      @vladislavgaitukaev3919 Рік тому

      maybe maybe. What are your preferences and considerations? I plan to try a closed subwoofer design. I think this bass should be more precise, but less powerful. It will be easier for the neighbors))

    • @kevinortiz28
      @kevinortiz28 Рік тому +1

      @@vladislavgaitukaev3919 my living room is 18ft 11 width ( ) and 13ft 6 length. I love blasting music and watching movies but sadly i live in an apartment building so i can not always be blasting music as my neighbors are sensitive to noise 🙄. i wish i lived next to neighbors that are just as noisy as me.

    • @vladislavgaitukaev3919
      @vladislavgaitukaev3919 Рік тому

      @@kevinortiz28 Wish you to have your own big house and two Sub Gen3 for movies and 5 Sub Mini +Sonos Five in each room 🤑

    • @kevinortiz28
      @kevinortiz28 Рік тому

      @@vladislavgaitukaev3919 yea one day i will own my house and make the best sound system with sound proof walls. But sadly i live in NYC where the houses that are aforable which is around $700,000 suck and aren’t so big. i want to move to a different state and get a bigger house for less.

  • @VanceReviews
    @VanceReviews Рік тому

    Never seen your videos in my feed before, but in looking for more in-depth reviews for the sub mini your video cames up and I'm really glad I oped it!! Great stuff.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Thank you for your compliment!

  • @daedae6463
    @daedae6463 Рік тому +1

    Man I love your videos. As a novice you just taught me that getting a sub (potential this sub) will actually improve the sound coming out of my other sonos speakers.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Great! Happy to have shared something useful!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      If you look at the video I am launching later, you will notice how much of an improvement adding a sub can bring to the other speakers!

  • @josephbecerra9211
    @josephbecerra9211 Рік тому +1

    Wow super excited for future videos!! I have a Beam Gen 1 and really want this sub so I can't wait to see how that would sound!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      I plan to make that video next!

  • @brianjones7701
    @brianjones7701 Рік тому

    This is really helpful. I have a playbar at the moment but a speaker has blown so I’ve purchased the arc. Unfortunately I’m wait to get into a new property so can’t set it up yet but the fact that you have done this comparison has definitely made me sway more to the sub mini. Really helpful thanks

  • @nevenmiskulin
    @nevenmiskulin Рік тому +4

    Great review. As an owner of a Sub Gen 2, I must say I am tempted to downgrade to Mini. But, there are two reasons not to. Firstly, I would be able to sell my Sub Gen 2 for less than 350 dollars and would have to add money to buy somewhat a less powerfull Sub. Second, and I think others will agree, Sonos soundbars are not really for music. I use my Sonos in ratio 80% to 20% in favour of movies, TV and TV shows. All of my music is done by surrounds (play 3's) which with Sub gen 2 sound really good. So, switching to Mini would mean less powerfull home theater and slightly better balanced music. I think I should save my money for the switch from Playbar to Arc. But Mini does looks really cool.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      I second your line of thoughts. Good analysis. The sub mini will not be as powerful as the sub gen 2.

    • @benward8302
      @benward8302 Рік тому +1

      Sorry to hijack your comment but just wanted to ask.. you said for music play back is just done by your surrounds, is that the surrounds that are part of your soundbar/sub/surround setup? And if so, can you help me understand how I could do that? Thanks!

    • @nevenmiskulin
      @nevenmiskulin Рік тому

      @@PeterPee I would only be happy If I could somewhat replace the Playbar and Sub Gen2 with Beam Gen2 and Sub Mini bet in a way I am left over with funds to buy a single Five or a pair of One's. But, i doubt I could get it.

    • @nevenmiskulin
      @nevenmiskulin Рік тому +1

      @@benward8302 I'll be glad to. All my Sonos (Playbar, Sub Gen 2 and a pair of Play 3's) are in the same group called Family room, so only one source can be played at a a time. The surrounds are directly behind my seating area, 2,5 metres apart and the Sub is in between them. I basically like background music while playing with the kids but every one in a while I do want some critical listening. I simply go into my Sonos app settings/System/Family Room/Surround Audio. I'll check if my Music Playback is Full and I drag the Music level slider to +15. That really 'mutes' the Playbar and I get stereo Play 3's with the Sub. My only gripe is I have to turn around to face stereo setup properly.

    • @benward8302
      @benward8302 Рік тому

      @@nevenmiskulin Absolute legend mate, thanks for confirming!

  • @shayroo
    @shayroo Рік тому

    You do the best reviews! Just ordered my Sub Mini based on your positive feedback. You are awesome!!!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Hope you enjoy it! I have been really enjoying mine!

  • @bastiaanzeeman3922
    @bastiaanzeeman3922 Рік тому

    Your videos are very helpful. The most helpful I can find on YT considering Sonos, thanks a lot

  • @stanykartopet8516
    @stanykartopet8516 Рік тому

    Remains to fix the possibility to pile the subs Mini to achieve a total experience ! Thanks for this wonderfull project and study.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Yeah. You can hack it today even if it’s not supported natively. But let me play around with they first.

  • @kostthem
    @kostthem Рік тому +1

    I have a pair of Ones and I'm thinking to buy the mini for listening to music.
    Thank you for your excellent video.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      I have been listening to that combo! Although with the play:1s. Sonically quite similar though.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      And I love it. For music.

    • @kostthem
      @kostthem Рік тому

      Thank you for your response, greetings from Greece!
      Can't wait to listen to it, already pre-ordered.

  • @VidVayder
    @VidVayder Рік тому +2

    Already pre-ordered! Can’t wait. I read on another article that said it’s better for movies than music which is good news to me but contradictory to other things I’ve heard about sealed subs.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +3

      Nice! I think better or not it’s subjective too. In general sealed subs are better for music. I have also been trying it out in a Sonos play:1 stereo setup and amp paired with Yamaha ceiling speakers and amp paired with NAD 8020 speakers for music. Your experience may vary from mine.

  • @peterdelia1814
    @peterdelia1814 Рік тому +1

    Excellent review love your reviews .Well informed and actually learned more about sub woofers than I expected.

  • @2musiclover534
    @2musiclover534 Рік тому +2

    My finding is leading me to keep the Sub though I have it in a rather small room for music listening. I have a small room of 11' x 13' with a 8' ceiling. I normally run a Sub. Tested the Sub Mini by switching back and forth about 7 times. I also swaped positions to make sure that all the room notes etc are identical. I WANTED to hear more resolution from the Mini due to its sealed design. Also, both are rated to 25hz and I figured that for a room as small as mine, I would get the same visceral impact as the larger sub. I would love to get that bit of floor space back. HOWEVER, I did not find that at all. Everyime I thought that the Mini had better resolution, I'll switch the Sub back and heard the same resolution. The KEY difference though is that the Sub simply had a lot more impact. Thicker, deeper, more present. A lot more visceral. It was a lot more enjoyable. This is unfortunate. So the Sub Mini is going back to Sonos. Added note: I went on youtube and ran some 'subwoofer tests' - and the difference is even clearer with these exaggerated tests. The Mini clearly add significant bass, but nothing like the Sub even in a small room.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Hey thanks for sharing that. I agree with you. At the same settings, in a side by side A-B comparison testing, the larger sub is always going to perform better. There is no fighting the physics of it. You will get the sub mini to perform at the same levels if you push a +5 to +8 to match it. But if you need to push it to a +8, you really need the sub gen 3 either because of your room size or your preference.

    • @2musiclover534
      @2musiclover534 Рік тому +1

      @@PeterPee Actually, I bumped up the MINI to maximum in the sub setting, and the regular Sub to about 15% up on that scale. I think the SUB actually reaches down lower - or has a lot more quantity on the lowest registers. But my greatest surprise is that I did not hear a lot more resolution with that sealed Mini as I expected. This is all for music listening. I just watched an hour of film yesterday with deep bass and it just is not the same - even in my small bedroom sized area. For me, I'll call it 'polite' - you know the sub is there, but politely behaving so as not to be overly intrusive. THe regular sub however, can be quite intrusive if you set it 50% higher than the middle setting. And sometimes with a sub and movies, you just want that intrusiveness to FEEL the rumble.

  • @link2440
    @link2440 Рік тому

    You have the BEST reviews!! Everyone should watch you!

  • @shalusachu
    @shalusachu Рік тому

    Hey Peter, your video was really helpful. Because of it I bought the sub mini along with my arc. And so far I am quite satisfied with the sound. 💥💥💥

  • @muddy250
    @muddy250 Рік тому

    Just found your review on release day having never heard of this new Sub! This is what I was waiting for and I have one here now. It’s perfect for my setup with a Beam and 2 One SLs
    Excellent video, thanks!
    Subscribed 👍🏼

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for being here! I’m sure you’re enjoying it a ton! I have been relistening to so much of my music and rewatching movies.

  • @ke5943
    @ke5943 3 місяці тому

    this really impressive work. well done and thank you

  • @kabysummit5801
    @kabysummit5801 Рік тому

    I appreciate the BASS, and your sense of humor. Subbed.

  • @seandicken7620
    @seandicken7620 Рік тому +1

    Looking forward to receiving mine! Thanks for the review!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      You’re welcome and I’m excited for you! 1 more week!

  • @binshuo
    @binshuo Рік тому

    I really appreciated this review of yours. I Bought Sub Gen 3 2 years ago and returned it a week later because it simply outputs too much bass for my liking. Your recommendation makes a lot sense to me to go for the Sub mini. I'll visit Best Buy and get one for my home theatre today.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Oh yes, if the Sub Gen 3 is too much for your room setup then the Sub mini comes in perfectly.

    • @binshuo
      @binshuo Рік тому

      @@PeterPee got it already, works perfectly for me😁

  • @TiaanJonker
    @TiaanJonker Рік тому +1

    Good Video as always, thanks Peter.
    Demonstrates the law of diminishing returns brilliantly!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! I wonder if they already had the Sub mini planned 2 years ago when they released the sub gen 3. They probably decided to launch the Gen 3 first else no one wants to get the bigger sub. :)

  • @alexfleener
    @alexfleener Рік тому +1

    My bass needs to be tight! Awesome review, thanks for sharing.

  • @Chief61
    @Chief61 Рік тому

    Best of your videos to date. Lots of info and I was undecided about getting a sub. Thought about sub gen 3 but it may be to much for how I’m set up. So I waited for the mini but didn’t want a lackluster sub. I have now decided based on your video to buy the Mini. I believe it will be perfect for my system. Thank you

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Fantastic! I am glad that I was able to help!

  • @cryptocajun8946
    @cryptocajun8946 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your professional expertise.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Hardly la. You speak highly of me and I am humbled. I only share what I feel and experience. I thank you for your faith in me!

  • @Rosshobson
    @Rosshobson Рік тому +1

    Great review - very detailed. I’ve pre ordered for my Arc.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! Hope you enjoy it! Actually I know you will.

  • @jonathannocon
    @jonathannocon Рік тому +1

    Thnx for putting the graphs side by side for I for one hate going back and forth between the two.
    Excellent review 👌🏼
    Very informative
    Is it just a sub is it like an all in one solution?
    Wifi only? No BT? If so which version. Th Mx again :D

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      This is just for the sub. For Sonos you will need either a soundbar or speaker (except the portable ones)

  • @rohanreddevil
    @rohanreddevil Рік тому

    Thanks for the help. I have arc already. So finger crossed. Let’s preorder

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Fingers crossed! You won't be disappointed!

  • @dbtalks20
    @dbtalks20 Рік тому

    Peter!! I was so waiting for this video. You just nailed it. I always gets amazed the way you answer all the questions come to my mind.
    Ok so I am the user with 2 Play ones as surround and Sonos ARC and was waiting for you to give verdict on sub mini. I am all hands down going for sub mini. Thanks for your recommendation+the RGY response chart and finally my 50-50 usage of music+movies. Truly appreciate your time however needless to say I will surely wait for youe Arc+sub mini combination video. Have a great day!!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      I probably covered the important Arc + Sub content in this video but I will want to do one with the trueplay sorted and the surrounds added. I am waiting to get enough funds to buy the stuff now that Sonos has taken back the review units. :)

  • @mrgold3591
    @mrgold3591 Рік тому

    I got the Sub mini to add to my Beam Gen 1 and two Symfonisk bookshelf surround speakers to LG OLED 55C9 in master bedroom. I already had a Gen 3 sub+Gen 1 Beam+2 One SLs in my office and liked the improvement the sub added to the sound quality and extra bass. I just couldn't get the sub mini to stay connected to my system for more than a few minutes. I've tried multiple times troubleshooting in the app, wired/wifi connections, running app diagnostics, and calling Sonos tech support for help. It would work for a little bit and then show "not connected" in the app a few minutes later. Ended up sending the sub mini back after a few days of getting nowhere with it. First time having an issue connecting any Sonos product I have (two Beam Gen 1, One Arc, three Gen 3 Subs, four Symfonisk bookshelf, two Fives, two One SL, two Roams).

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Hmmm.. that's strange. I have two sub minis and both are stable with their connection.

    • @mrgold3591
      @mrgold3591 Рік тому

      @@PeterPee I figured it out. I thought it was an issue with the sub mini; but, I had the same issue when I replaced with a Gen 3 sub. Did the old Google search on Sonos connection issues and it was the Sonos sub being too close to my wireless router causing the issue. Not sure why the Beam Gen 1 can sit 12 inches away wireless from the router without issues; but, the Sonos sub being 2-3 feet away from the Beam would disconnect? Moved the sub 16 feet away near the rear of the room and it has stayed connected.

  • @93ChayZ
    @93ChayZ 6 місяців тому +1

    Sub Gen 4 coming and it’s gunna be a BANGER.

  • @kman915
    @kman915 9 місяців тому

    I think, it also depends on the genre of music you listen to. Ported and seald can both sound great for music, but for genres like hiphop, esp modern hip-hop, some pop and some EDM. Ported can really shine. Lots of lower frequencies, below 30hz and can sound great. But, it's all preference and taste as you mentioned.

  • @jonkonguk
    @jonkonguk Рік тому

    Peter Pee, thank you for your video it is very informative and has reasured me about my pre-order of the Sub Mini. Keep up the good work!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Thanks Jon! You'll love it!

  • @luisvillanueva35
    @luisvillanueva35 11 місяців тому +1

    Please help!!! Would you pair the sub mini with 2 sonos fives???? Thank you and hi from Mexico. Awesome work!!!

  • @robertdraper4439
    @robertdraper4439 Рік тому

    Got a sub mini with a gen2 beam, ones at rear, eq base setting 4 and treble 5, sub output plus 6 and it sounds awesome I love it, great video peter your the man

  • @bkelevate
    @bkelevate Рік тому +2

    I just bought a Sonos Beam Gen 2. I’m happy with the performance but definitely would like more bass. So happy this was released. Went on ahead and preordered. I’ll add the Sonos One SL’s by Christmas. Should be a decent setup for a smaller living room.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      I think you just opted for the best value Sonos setup available at the moment.

    • @46ASM
      @46ASM Рік тому

      Same set up for me .i started with the beam2 ,later a pair of One sl ,and i m going now to buy this mini sub .( That looks not so mini 😁.)

    • @bkelevate
      @bkelevate Рік тому +1

      @@46ASM I just bought the One’s this past week. So I have the full setup now. It’s great. The sub mini isn’t earth shaking but it’s enough to give movies and music more punch. If/when I move to our next house I plan to keep this set for the living room. And then have a main movie room with the arc and regular sub.

  • @risto_delicious
    @risto_delicious Рік тому

    Great review man. That’s my only concern I’m living in a 12 unit apartment complex. Currently have a sonos arc.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Assuming you are living in the middle, you are at most pissing 4 others off. :D

  • @whathappenedhere7
    @whathappenedhere7 Рік тому

    Big thank you, Peter. Nice review and it was comprehensive!!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @myatix1
    @myatix1 Рік тому +1

    Great video Peter! Always a great and detailed review! Thank you for sharing! What do you think if you use the sub mini in a large room? 40m2 with high ceilings?

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      That's a pretty big space... I am going to recommend you go for the Sub gen 3. Or Sub Gen 2. I am imagining a space of 5m x 8m with 3+M ceiling height... It's too much air for the Sub Mini to pressurise.

  • @jasonblair4057
    @jasonblair4057 Рік тому

    Preorder in and ready for the arrival next weekend. Should be a fun weekend crank up the movies and tunes. 👍👍

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      I had sleepless nights since....

  • @ev4657
    @ev4657 Рік тому +1

    Great video brother. Thank you for this!!!!!

  • @xtabi8888
    @xtabi8888 Рік тому

    Fantastic video!
    Thank you for the incredible detail.

  • @angycroc
    @angycroc 7 місяців тому

    Hey Peter! One year late to your review, but I wanted to suggest you start including F3 and F6 numbers for subs. Since you have done the measurements already.

  • @amigostecnologia8226
    @amigostecnologia8226 Рік тому +2

    Ese subwoofer sería la pareja ideal para mi Sonos Five.

  • @yamilgandulla4428
    @yamilgandulla4428 Рік тому +2

    i have a sonos arc. should i pair it with the sub mini or the sub gen 3? im wondering if itll make a huge difference or not

  • @av941
    @av941 Рік тому +1

    I felt like I kept the volume on most old Sonos products very low. Especially the rear speakers. Even Ikea bookshelf as rear speakers are probably overkill for me as I can’t have my couch far away from the wall. Sonos was over kill for me so I’m glad they have added smaller, cheaper units.
    I’ll move in to an apartment again soon. I am worried about neighbours as I stay up quite late. I hope the beam 2 + Sub mini + 2 ikea bookshelf will sound good.
    The Sony HT-A9 would just look so much better though.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      I have to agree on the HT-A9... Looks are killer. If you are considering the beam gen 2 + sub mini with surrounds, I think that is the killer combination from Sonos right now.

    • @christophesepulchre
      @christophesepulchre Рік тому

      @@PeterPee Did I understand correctly that we don't have to worry for our neighbours with Sonos Sub Mini (living in a flat as well) ?
      Thanks for the great review by the way !

    • @christophesepulchre
      @christophesepulchre Рік тому

      Sorry, I read the other comments meanwhile ;)

  • @ZAPPED916
    @ZAPPED916 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! I can’t wait to get one!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      I think you’ll be pleased with yourself for getting it! After all, it’s Christmas. Around there la.

  • @joelee9407
    @joelee9407 Рік тому +1

    Hi Peter, thanks for the great review, I was awaiting for your review before committing and now I'm convinced, thanks to u! Do you have a coupon code to sweeten the deal? For Singapore usage.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Yes I do! I will be releasing it in the live stream on Sunday 10am! Wait for that! It's not a large amount but probably the best I can negotiate for you guys.

  • @stijnw11
    @stijnw11 Рік тому

    It's decided, thank you for the review! The thing you said about there might be too much bass in the Gen3 convinced me I should buy the Mini. My neighbours wouldn't like that and I'm more into music than movies

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Cool! Glad that I was able to help you reach a decision!

  • @kjw7228
    @kjw7228 Рік тому +3

    Great review peter... currently have a dedicated room with arc,sl's and dual subs. Have been considering putting a simple 2ch setup together. It's nice to have a sealed option now. Iam assuming i will prefer its accuracy and roll off characteristics over the G3 for dedicated music applications. Looking forward to getting my hands on one.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      I love the sub mini for that exact reason. I have been listening to the sub mini a lot for music paired with the Play:1s and Amp!

  • @havaden96
    @havaden96 8 місяців тому

    The only negative thing i can say about this sub, is that the frequency range is super gated. Theres no room for adjustment in the app, so if you find yourself listening to a song where a bass guitar balance on that gated frequency line, the sub kicks in and out on that bassline. Id love to be able to rise the frequency just a little and soften the "gate" slightly.

  • @iand6453
    @iand6453 Рік тому

    Always top notch content!!! I'd love to know if you'd think it's better to add the Sub Mini or two One SLs to the Arc. I'm leaning towards the mini in hopes the ones get upgraded this year. Thoughts???

  • @DWilliam1
    @DWilliam1 Рік тому

    Still the best reviews on UA-cam…

  • @nitrodave35
    @nitrodave35 Рік тому

    Great Video
    I'm just waiting for your test of the Mini paired with 2 x Five's. For playing only music.That will be the main reason to purchase the Mini for me!

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      I don't think it will add a lot though.

  • @sabrinacherubin6846
    @sabrinacherubin6846 Рік тому

    This is a superb review. I am super impressed. Great job!

  • @sebas9411
    @sebas9411 4 місяці тому

    Here playback with sub gen3. Got the mini first but now way could fill the room

  • @tuareg67
    @tuareg67 Рік тому +3

    Now I understand why SONOS did not install the possibility of pairing 2 sub-mini, because buying 2 would give you better sound than the One Sub2 or Sub3, for music and movies.
    Thanks for video, Peter.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      Good point!

    • @diggergeensen860
      @diggergeensen860 Рік тому +2

      Same reason why they don’t make an AMP with a centre channel and rear surrounds. Nobody would buy their ARC home theatre package, when you could get superior aftermarket speakers for the price.

  • @vagattack7
    @vagattack7 Рік тому

    As always, an amazing Video Peter! Keep Up the Good Work. I was wondering about the correct orientation of Sub-Mini and the slot. It is Advertised (At Least Most Photos) with the slot facing toward to the listener, but the connect button on all sonos are at the back. Does this means that the slots are facing sideways and not at front? Did you manage to play around with different directions and if so, does it have different impact to acoustics?

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      There is definitely a difference. I am trying to get enough time to make a video on that. Please be patient. For now, just use what you feel sounds ok to you. In most product shots, they have to show the slot. If not it looks really bland and plain. The sub mini is almost featureless on most sides.

  • @adambowditch6499
    @adambowditch6499 Рік тому

    Excellent video , I have absolutely no qualms about paring it with my arc and two ones now. Thank you peter

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Cool! Before you get your hands on it, you can listen to the demo tracks at the end of the video a few more times! :)

  • @sgee4075
    @sgee4075 Рік тому +1

    Peter Pee ! master of knowledge ,Great review Sir.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Thanks for the praise!

  • @wdstevenson
    @wdstevenson Рік тому +3

    Thanks Peter! Would really like to see/hear the Beam 2 and Beam 2 + Sub Mini frequency curves.

    • @fabienlambert23
      @fabienlambert23 Рік тому +3

      Same request for me 😉 thanks Peter !

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +2

      Coming next!

    • @wdstevenson
      @wdstevenson Рік тому

      For the record, Peter delivered! Thanks Peter!
      ua-cam.com/video/0kU__bh48Hw/v-deo.html

  • @westview9917
    @westview9917 Рік тому +3

    I have a Beam (gen 1) and two One speakers. Last year I found a gen2 Sub open box from Best Buy for $300. It definitely upped both the home theatre and music experience a lot. The sub mini seems like a great option now - there was no way I was going to pay full price for a Gen 3 sub.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      But the Sub gen 2 is actually going to have more bass than the Sub mini ya.

    • @westview9917
      @westview9917 Рік тому

      @@PeterPee True, but at the time there was no sub mini. So I had to keep an eye out for a used or discounted sub gen2 because I couldn't justify a new gen 3. If available at the time, I would have bought a new Sub mini.

    • @kjw7228
      @kjw7228 Рік тому

      Wow, absolute score on that sub for 300$ i picked up a g2 new old stock lil while back for 425$ and i though that was a score!!!!

    • @westview9917
      @westview9917 Рік тому

      @@kjw7228 it didn't even come in a Sonos box. Just a plain cardboard box. But I didn't mind!

    • @jackryan7550
      @jackryan7550 Рік тому

      For your Beam is the Best Way to used your SUB II ☝️ Sub Mini is much lower in Sound like Sub II 🤷‍♀️

  • @0506126
    @0506126 Рік тому +1

    Great review Peter, i've been waiting for a more affordable and compact sub option from Sonos. Looks like the wait is over. I am curious if you have the dimensions to the box? Am planning to get it during my visit to Australia soon and hand carry it back.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Box dimensions as follow
      Height 44cm. Base is 31cm x 31cm.

  • @SkyNet1506
    @SkyNet1506 11 місяців тому

    Keep up the good work mate!

  • @marcwinner567
    @marcwinner567 Рік тому +1

    Really good video as always from you 🎉

  • @tomasbicik3529
    @tomasbicik3529 Рік тому +1

    Hi, great review. At what volume level are you testing frequency response with Arc? I wonder if it falls of with higher volume - my guess would be around 60%.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      YOU ARE SPOT ON! How the heck did you guess that?! I was testing at 60.

  • @richardstory731
    @richardstory731 7 місяців тому

    This guy is Superfantastic.

  • @Laptopdog78
    @Laptopdog78 Рік тому

    Great review thanks. I have what may seem like a silly question but here goes………I intend to buy the sub mini soon, but unfortunately my layout means that my tv is in the corner of a square room, so my sub will be in one of those corners also. Would you face the open slot so that as you look through it you can see the corner, or would you have the slot so that each side faces a wall? I am thinking that this could make a big difference to the sound, and just wondered what your thoughts were? (If this makes sense lol).

  • @mauricioharker5163
    @mauricioharker5163 Рік тому

    @Peter...
    For me and many more you are the lighthouse that guides us to a good port...
    For this reason and thinking of all users focused on music I want to ask you for a specific analysis of the SONOS One + sub mini versus 2 five stereo pair.
    How close are they?
    At the moment I use my One without trueplay, since I feel that when activating the trueplay all the music loses a lot of presence and body ... Trueplay flattens them.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      I have been using the Play:1s with sub mini for a few days. I really love that sound. I think the Ones with Sub is a very close contender for the best stereo music setup against a pair of Fives. I have to test them and measure them though.

  • @mtnbikerva1
    @mtnbikerva1 Рік тому +1

    does adding a sub to the Sonos ARC noticeably improve the mids and highs on the ARC by allowing them to work less and cleaner????

  • @kaifa76
    @kaifa76 Рік тому

    I've seen the Sub Mini advertised as the best companion to the Beam, this might be true but IMHO the Mini will shine when paired with 2 Ones.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Yep, I have people prioritising surrounds, and some prioritising subs.

  • @GIB_H
    @GIB_H Рік тому

    great video. very detailed and great quality in content.

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому

      Much appreciated and thanks for showing it!

  • @Dando-1983
    @Dando-1983 Рік тому

    Can’t wait for all your in depth videos..

    • @PeterPee
      @PeterPee  Рік тому +1

      I have so many planned up I think I need to take unpaid leave to do it all.

    • @Dando-1983
      @Dando-1983 Рік тому

      @@PeterPee ^__^= but it will be worth it.. your very passionate and no one goes to town like you do.. hence why your on Sonos radar 😊 and well deserved too.